What's the big deal about estart on a mx bike??

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About the same amount your wife sent me on Snapchat.
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Hell I'm ready for some steps, seat massager, and air con baby. Could someone else just ride this moto for me, I need to do more 12oz curls real quick
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Rupert X wrote:
A pro buddy told me a few years back, that some quick math told him that NOT having E-Start had cost him $50,000 one particular year...
A pro buddy told me a few years back, that some quick math told him that NOT having E-Start had cost him $50,000 one particular year, so, there's that....
mx836 wrote:
Dungey's e-start cost him probably more than that in one race at Red Bud. Probably cost Davalos a good chunk this past weekend also. One good...
Dungey's e-start cost him probably more than that in one race at Red Bud. Probably cost Davalos a good chunk this past weekend also. One good thing about a kickstart is it never fails, although e-start doesn't very often either.
You can't compare the factory bikes with the stock ones.

Like ML said, the factories uses a very different battery and e start system. I have had 2 e start bikes the 2014 KTM and 2016 KTM. Around 140h of riding, not a single time a problem with the e start or battery.
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Motofinne wrote:
You can't compare the factory bikes with the stock ones. Like ML said, the factories uses a very different battery and e start system. I have...
You can't compare the factory bikes with the stock ones.

Like ML said, the factories uses a very different battery and e start system. I have had 2 e start bikes the 2014 KTM and 2016 KTM. Around 140h of riding, not a single time a problem with the e start or battery.
I wasn't comparing. However, you are only one person. There have been issues and they have been discussed on here.

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After stalling my 450 Honda today twice and being too tired to start it straight away, I'm wishing I'd installed the electric start kit I have waiting for my bike
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I just like when my dirt bike starts. I don't care how it starts.
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Motofinne wrote:
You can't compare the factory bikes with the stock ones. Like ML said, the factories uses a very different battery and e start system. I have...
You can't compare the factory bikes with the stock ones.

Like ML said, the factories uses a very different battery and e start system. I have had 2 e start bikes the 2014 KTM and 2016 KTM. Around 140h of riding, not a single time a problem with the e start or battery.
mx836 wrote:
I wasn't comparing. However, you are only one person. There have been issues and they have been discussed on here.
The number of issues is a very small percentage compared to the number of bikes sold with E start. It seems that the large majority of people bitching about it ride something that doesn't have it.
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Turbojez 1/31/2017 4:54am
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Nobody needs it until they do, like seat belts.
One crash in a race and you find yourself trying to kick that damned thing back to life and when it finally starts up, you are way too winded to charge hard. This sucks.
mjr119 1/31/2017 4:54am
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I don't know about you guys. But there have been several instances where I have fallen over on a hot day and almost passed out trying to restart my bike. Even if it's only a few kicks. On a hot day in full gear, its rough. Especially being short and riding a 450.
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BobPA 1/31/2017 6:10am
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mx836 wrote:
I wasn't comparing. However, you are only one person. There have been issues and they have been discussed on here.
Such as?

How you can argue against e-start is beyond me, the japs will never see another dime from me until they put the button on a bike.

BTW I am 29 and perfectly capable of kicking a 450. But, in my opinion that is for cavemen. You should have a hand crank install in your car bro
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I want one on my CR500 motor...
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You can get them for CR500's now....
Yeah Panthera motor sports out of Canada.

Trust me, it's on the list.
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aharper33 1/31/2017 8:49am
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Having been roped into riding for Cannondale back in the day for a local dealership I can say that the older e-start sucked. I have not ridden any of the new bikes coming out with E-start but I can see how there are advantages and disadvantages. As alot of people have said the quick restart in a tight section or after a crash on a steep hill are the biggest advantage I can think of.
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Throw away the remote to your TV for a month and get back to us.
Just made me do knee slappers! Funny shit...as I would cancel my cable TV if I didn't have the "magic button"!
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Such as? How you can argue against e-start is beyond me, the japs will never see another dime from me until they put the button on...
Such as?

How you can argue against e-start is beyond me, the japs will never see another dime from me until they put the button on a bike.

BTW I am 29 and perfectly capable of kicking a 450. But, in my opinion that is for cavemen. You should have a hand crank install in your car bro
I'm not arguing against it at all. You can run whatever the hell you want. I don't care to have it / pay for it. Sorry, if that bothers you? A guy was on here not long ago mentioning how his KTM was going all haywire in the garage and trying to start itself. He was very glad he was home at the time.
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kott0n wrote:
I want one on my CR500 motor...
kiwifan wrote:
You can get them for CR500's now....
kott0n wrote:
Yeah Panthera motor sports out of Canada.

Trust me, it's on the list.
yup....good for those who dont like broken ankles from kicking them over...I am kind of kidding I saw a guy trying to start his with sneakers on, guess what happened!!!
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coastie44 1/31/2017 10:08am
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BobPA wrote:
Such as? How you can argue against e-start is beyond me, the japs will never see another dime from me until they put the button on...
Such as?

How you can argue against e-start is beyond me, the japs will never see another dime from me until they put the button on a bike.

BTW I am 29 and perfectly capable of kicking a 450. But, in my opinion that is for cavemen. You should have a hand crank install in your car bro
I just don't understand this I guess. It's just as easy for me to kick a bike than to hit the button. I've had a couple of e-start KTMs (currently a 350SXF) and still have my trusty KX450.

I don't notice one way or the other. Just different.
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mx836 wrote:
I'm not arguing against it at all. You can run whatever the hell you want. I don't care to have it / pay for it. Sorry...
I'm not arguing against it at all. You can run whatever the hell you want. I don't care to have it / pay for it. Sorry, if that bothers you? A guy was on here not long ago mentioning how his KTM was going all haywire in the garage and trying to start itself. He was very glad he was home at the time.
Bro, you need to take a chill pill.
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BobPA 1/31/2017 10:13am
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I just don't understand this I guess. It's just as easy for me to kick a bike than to hit the button. I've had a couple...
I just don't understand this I guess. It's just as easy for me to kick a bike than to hit the button. I've had a couple of e-start KTMs (currently a 350SXF) and still have my trusty KX450.

I don't notice one way or the other. Just different.
My use of "japs" is not meant to be used in an offensive manner. Sorry for ruining your safe space. I live in the woods of PA, lucky I am able to operate one of these day gum telephone machines.

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How about a big old STFU Newbie!
Lunch_Box wrote:
I think he must have lost to some of those +50 guys and there were no more participation trophies to hand out by the time he...
I think he must have lost to some of those +50 guys and there were no more participation trophies to hand out by the time he crossed the finish line.
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Can I PLEASE go for a ride with this "Tough Guy with a Horn in his Ass"? Please? I just wanna see him rock a "single...
Can I PLEASE go for a ride with this "Tough Guy with a Horn in his Ass"?

Please?

I just wanna see him rock a "single to table" & show me how it's done.
Thank you fellas for saying something !!! some of the 50+ guys in East Texas are ripping, hell I wish I could go as fast as they do!!
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mx836 1/31/2017 10:20am
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BobPA wrote:
Bro, you need to take a chill pill.
Ok, troll. I'm chill.
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The number of issues is a very small percentage compared to the number of bikes sold with E start. It seems that the large majority of...
The number of issues is a very small percentage compared to the number of bikes sold with E start. It seems that the large majority of people bitching about it ride something that doesn't have it.
Said the exact same thing in my thread above. That e-starts rarely have failure.

I'm not bitching about anything. Just stating unpopular fact. Somebody posted how not having e-start costed them money. I posted how e-start failure has costed money. You have to look at both sides.

To each their own. I'm good without. I'm not against it, but I don't want to pay for it on my new 450, because it's not worth it FOR ME.
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mx836 wrote:
Ok, troll. I'm chill.
Edited: do not want to cause a temper tantrum
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kiwifan wrote:
You can get them for CR500's now....
kott0n wrote:
Yeah Panthera motor sports out of Canada.

Trust me, it's on the list.
kiwifan wrote:
yup....good for those who dont like broken ankles from kicking them over...I am kind of kidding I saw a guy trying to start his with sneakers...
yup....good for those who dont like broken ankles from kicking them over...I am kind of kidding I saw a guy trying to start his with sneakers on, guess what happened!!!
My bike isn't even hard to get going. 1-6 kicks cold and 1 kick hot but by the end of the day the bottom of my foot is bruised through my mx boots.

I stopped kick starting it and get pulled by the wife's quad to cold start it...lol. Seems to start better when I call it a pig a few times.

That Panthera setup is being saved for.
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Lunch_Box wrote:
I think he must have lost to some of those +50 guys and there were no more participation trophies to hand out by the time he...
I think he must have lost to some of those +50 guys and there were no more participation trophies to hand out by the time he crossed the finish line.
TeamGreen wrote:
Can I PLEASE go for a ride with this "Tough Guy with a Horn in his Ass"? Please? I just wanna see him rock a "single...
Can I PLEASE go for a ride with this "Tough Guy with a Horn in his Ass"?

Please?

I just wanna see him rock a "single to table" & show me how it's done.
Bramlett321 wrote:
Thank you fellas for saying something !!! some of the 50+ guys in East Texas are ripping, hell I wish I could go as fast as...
Thank you fellas for saying something !!! some of the 50+ guys in East Texas are ripping, hell I wish I could go as fast as they do!!
Yep. I race the +30 expert class up north here and had my ass handed to me by someone that races in the +60 masters class. Couldn't keep up to him if my life depended on it. Hopefully I can do the same when I get up to the 50+ age.
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mx836 1/31/2017 11:21am
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BobPA wrote:
Edited: do not want to cause a temper tantrum
I think you meant to say:

"Didn't want anybody to see my temper tantrum."
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Edited: do not want to cause a temper tantrum
mx836 wrote:
I think you meant to say:

"Didn't want anybody to see my temper tantrum."
Nah, I was going to be whitty, but you get all bent out of shape even when our opinions clash. Hence the childish name calling. I just did not want to ruin your day
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Rupert X wrote:
A pro buddy told me a few years back, that some quick math told him that NOT having E-Start had cost him $50,000 one particular year...
A pro buddy told me a few years back, that some quick math told him that NOT having E-Start had cost him $50,000 one particular year, so, there's that....
mx836 wrote:
Dungey's e-start cost him probably more than that in one race at Red Bud. Probably cost Davalos a good chunk this past weekend also. One good...
Dungey's e-start cost him probably more than that in one race at Red Bud. Probably cost Davalos a good chunk this past weekend also. One good thing about a kickstart is it never fails, although e-start doesn't very often either.
A kickstart unbreakable? HA
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Nah, I was going to be whitty, but you get all bent out of shape even when our opinions clash. Hence the childish name calling. I...
Nah, I was going to be whitty, but you get all bent out of shape even when our opinions clash. Hence the childish name calling. I just did not want to ruin your day
You're an instigator, bro. Don't dish it out if you don't want it back. Maybe you forgot already, but you lashed out at me.
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My bike isn't even hard to get going. 1-6 kicks cold and 1 kick hot but by the end of the day the bottom of my...
My bike isn't even hard to get going. 1-6 kicks cold and 1 kick hot but by the end of the day the bottom of my foot is bruised through my mx boots.

I stopped kick starting it and get pulled by the wife's quad to cold start it...lol. Seems to start better when I call it a pig a few times.

That Panthera setup is being saved for.
lol sounds like you do have trouble with it...I dont find it difficult to start mine unless I screw up the technique. But then again I have never had an issue kickstarting bikes, the EC on my RX is pure heaven when in a tricky situation though...

how much is that kit for the CR500, if you dont mind me asking?
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mx836 1/31/2017 12:01pm
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seth505 wrote:
A kickstart unbreakable? HA
If you maintain your dirtbike, it shouldn't be hard to keep your kick starter in one piece. I personally never have broken one and I've never seen one of the stars on MX DNF due to a broken kickstart lever. Obviously, it can and has happened.

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