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jamma10 1/10/2017 7:27am
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shaffstall721 wrote:
Tim wrecked hard in the qualifying race and already won the championship? What did he have to prove? Herlings couldnt get around a guy who was...
Tim wrecked hard in the qualifying race and already won the championship? What did he have to prove?

Herlings couldnt get around a guy who was on the couch all summer (Anderson) at Maggiora......

I wish Tim was in that race!
Anderson got the holeshot while Herlings rounded the first chicane in about 10th, he passed his way into third and got held up behined Tonus while Anderson skipped away out front. He managed to pass Tonus, reeled Anderson in and then spun out while trying to find a way past.

Don't let your dissaproval of Herlings cloud your judgement. He will be the MXGP rider to beat in 2017.
shaffstall721 1/10/2017 7:39am
1/10/2017 7:39am
jamma10 wrote:
The laptimes show Herlings was faster than Anderson at Maggiora though, whether he would have been able to get around him in that MX2/Open race is...
The laptimes show Herlings was faster than Anderson at Maggiora though, whether he would have been able to get around him in that MX2/Open race is another thing. Maybe not.

Tomac was about 3 secs a lap faster than Gajser at GH! It should have been Gajsers time to shine but he was found out.
shaffstall721 wrote:
Tim wrecked hard in the qualifying race and already won the championship? What did he have to prove? Herlings couldnt get around a guy who was...
Tim wrecked hard in the qualifying race and already won the championship? What did he have to prove?

Herlings couldnt get around a guy who was on the couch all summer (Anderson) at Maggiora......

I wish Tim was in that race!
BobPA wrote:
Excuse excuses excuses

You live in the US

Show some pride and defend your countrymen, you commi

Oh wait, Ohio explains it all
Sorry I think Tim is the best rider in the world right now, I dont have to lie to myself to think my countrymen are better?

Did you not watch Eli (who is my favorite rider) get SMOKED all summer?

Anderson is one of my favorite riders, but he just came back from injury...

Learn to be unbiased...



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Park Boys 1/10/2017 7:42am
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Oh damn, I didn't even realize that was you, ha. Trying to post while working... I don't feel RC ever had Bubba's raw speed, at least...
Oh damn, I didn't even realize that was you, ha. Trying to post while working...

I don't feel RC ever had Bubba's raw speed, at least not until he got into the bigger bikes. RC became so fit that he could really stamp on a race, not to say he wasn't fast because obviously he was, but there are several riders I think were faster. I've seen RC and Villopoto on the same track outdoors and RV was definitely the faster of the two in terms of straight speed.
I don't know I think because of RCs sheer dominance people forget how fast he really was. No one in this sport has as many 45 + second wins as RC. Reed could give RV every thing he could handle at times in 2011 and he was never more than a speed bump for RC outdoors, he was beat by RC by over a minute more than a few times. RV in 2013 may have been faster than RC but that's quite awhile after RCs last season and RV was no where near as dominant or consistent. I agree though that RC got better on bigger bikes which is crazy as he is statically the greatest 125 MX rider ever due to winning 3 titles to Stews 2.
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PastranaWho 1/10/2017 7:59am
1/10/2017 7:59am
YES bring on the GPs, where the action is at. MX2 is going to be nuts and MXGP i just hope desalle comes in healthy and paulin enjoys the husky and start running with top guys to add to the mix. My streaming account is all ready to go!

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NVA57 1/10/2017 9:49am
1/10/2017 9:49am
Gajser may be the rider with the highest raw speed but he also crashed a lot last year (Febvre too). Can't afford that this year. It's nearly impossible to judge since Herlings has been extremely dominant the last 4 seasons, so it will either be a confirmation or a reality check. Either way I hope there will be a lot of battles.
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Jimmy_Sloan 1/10/2017 10:07am
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I'm quite looking forward to the start of the season, but I wish more American riders would go race the GP's.
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RG1 1/10/2017 10:11am
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Gajser made an enormous improvement last year, in so many different ways. He was faster than I think anyone thought he would be on the 450, he was incredibly consistent, which is something he never was on a 250, and he went from looking hopeless in the sand in previous years to winning motos at Valkenswaard and Lommel. After last year you can't be surprised if he dominates again this year, because he has shown that he is capable of anything. I do think people are slightly underestimating Herlings though. You can point out Anderson beating him at Maggiora if you like, but that weekend he was mightily impressive. He absolutely dominated the qualifying race, won the last moto, and was probably on the way to the win in moto 2 if he hadn't have crashed. It was a pretty impressive 450 debut. It's hard to call a winner, but either way, these two are unbelievable talents.
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1-forty-8 1/10/2017 10:23am
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RG1 wrote:
Gajser made an enormous improvement last year, in so many different ways. He was faster than I think anyone thought he would be on the 450...
Gajser made an enormous improvement last year, in so many different ways. He was faster than I think anyone thought he would be on the 450, he was incredibly consistent, which is something he never was on a 250, and he went from looking hopeless in the sand in previous years to winning motos at Valkenswaard and Lommel. After last year you can't be surprised if he dominates again this year, because he has shown that he is capable of anything. I do think people are slightly underestimating Herlings though. You can point out Anderson beating him at Maggiora if you like, but that weekend he was mightily impressive. He absolutely dominated the qualifying race, won the last moto, and was probably on the way to the win in moto 2 if he hadn't have crashed. It was a pretty impressive 450 debut. It's hard to call a winner, but either way, these two are unbelievable talents.
Herlings ride at the Nations last year was extremely impressive, but hardly his debut 450 ride...
scottydogmx 1/10/2017 10:26am
1/10/2017 10:26am
Big Ken back in!
I hope he is fit and back in business, I just love his no nonsense riding style!
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Rowlands 1/10/2017 11:54am
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Febvre, Gajser and Herlings all have one thing in common and that's that there fearless. Personally I like each of them riders so don't really have a favourite. I think the rider who can be the most consistent will win the championship.Tim seems to crack under pressure when he is not at the front but his raw speed is incredible. Romain is the most determined rider and willing to throw it all out there to win. Jeffrey is easily the best rider of the 3 but he hates not winning and we've seen how that's ended in the past. Damn it's going to be an amazing year !

Let's not rule out Pauls Jonaas in mx2 he's working with Marc De Ruever and that is a dangerous combination. But Seewer and Paturel will see a huge opportunity for a championship
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NVA57 1/10/2017 12:02pm
1/10/2017 12:02pm
Yeah MX2 is wide open.. Prado, Pootjes, Lieber, Jonass, Seewer, Mewse, Lawrence, Sanayei, Vlaanderen, Van Doninck, Petrov, Bogers, Paturel, Vaessen.. They are all capable of winning now with 6 serious title contenders.
Swedishmxfan 1/10/2017 9:59pm
1/10/2017 9:59pm
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The last 2 seasons have been suprising with Febvre and Gajser. No One expected that at the beginning of 15 and 16. Herlings will have more...
The last 2 seasons have been suprising with Febvre and Gajser. No One expected that at the beginning of 15 and 16. Herlings will have more pressure from his debut. It will be intresting to see Cairolis experience against herlings, Gajser and febvres Speed Smile And My English is not very good i know that Smile
sende wrote:
Nothing wrong with your English. Welcome to the forum. Herlings has pressure for sure, but he'll be the man to beat. Febvre and Gajser are the...
Nothing wrong with your English. Welcome to the forum.

Herlings has pressure for sure, but he'll be the man to beat. Febvre and Gajser are the nearest challengers.
If Cairoli is 100% healthy, he will be in the mix. This maybe his final year, when he can win a championship.

This year I will go to my first trip to Netherlands and will go to the GP of Europe. It'll be interesting to see how fast Herlings goes in Valkenswaard. Gonna have a "few" beers in Amsterdam as well. Haha.
I agree that Herlings is the man to beat. 2017 will be so fun to follow. Just hope that every one stays healthy.

Haha sounds great! I will go to the swedish round in Uddevalla at least
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Cortami79 1/10/2017 11:07pm
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In my eyes Herlings is the man to beat, I have seen this guy ride from his 85cc days until now and I litteraly have never seen anyone as talented and fast as he is. I don't want this thread going to be a Herlings vs the world discussion, but in my eyes he will be the guy to beat. If he stays smart and settles for 2nd to 5th place a couple of times he will win the championship. Gajser, Febvre, Cairoli, Paulin and some more of those guys will be in fire on most of the tracks, so it will be interesting. But you can count on him winning Valkenswaard, Kegums and Lommel Grinning

MX2 class will be interesting. I think it will be a battle between Seewer, Paturel and Jonass. Jonass is working with De Reuver now and they have a strong base together. So if Jonass keeps his head cool several times I think he will win the championship. However, Seewer hardly makes any mistakes so that will be his main competitor. I don't see a guy like Prado riding for the championship this year yet. Bogers and V doninck will probably get their first race/overall win this year.

I haven't seen any discussion about the EMX yet, but I have my eyes on Jago Geerts for a couple of years now. I think he will have a strong EMX250 campaign. Interested to see how Charboneau does too. Speaking of EMX250, Thomas Kjerr Olsen is riding MX2 this year too, I'm curious how he does, same goes for Sanayei. I love that kids style. Hunter Lawrence will be riding Suzuki, will he ride the EMX250 championship or the MX2 class?

I'm excited for the season, however for me it starts at Argentinia, the most beautiful track of the series.
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Barrzy256 1/11/2017 12:00am
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Adam Sterry top 5 end of season
smurfmark 1/11/2017 4:10am
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Cortami79 wrote:
In my eyes Herlings is the man to beat, I have seen this guy ride from his 85cc days until now and I litteraly have never...
In my eyes Herlings is the man to beat, I have seen this guy ride from his 85cc days until now and I litteraly have never seen anyone as talented and fast as he is. I don't want this thread going to be a Herlings vs the world discussion, but in my eyes he will be the guy to beat. If he stays smart and settles for 2nd to 5th place a couple of times he will win the championship. Gajser, Febvre, Cairoli, Paulin and some more of those guys will be in fire on most of the tracks, so it will be interesting. But you can count on him winning Valkenswaard, Kegums and Lommel Grinning

MX2 class will be interesting. I think it will be a battle between Seewer, Paturel and Jonass. Jonass is working with De Reuver now and they have a strong base together. So if Jonass keeps his head cool several times I think he will win the championship. However, Seewer hardly makes any mistakes so that will be his main competitor. I don't see a guy like Prado riding for the championship this year yet. Bogers and V doninck will probably get their first race/overall win this year.

I haven't seen any discussion about the EMX yet, but I have my eyes on Jago Geerts for a couple of years now. I think he will have a strong EMX250 campaign. Interested to see how Charboneau does too. Speaking of EMX250, Thomas Kjerr Olsen is riding MX2 this year too, I'm curious how he does, same goes for Sanayei. I love that kids style. Hunter Lawrence will be riding Suzuki, will he ride the EMX250 championship or the MX2 class?

I'm excited for the season, however for me it starts at Argentinia, the most beautiful track of the series.
Hunter will ride the mx2 Class.
Sandwarrior752 1/11/2017 5:09am
1/11/2017 5:09am
Cortami79 wrote:
In my eyes Herlings is the man to beat, I have seen this guy ride from his 85cc days until now and I litteraly have never...
In my eyes Herlings is the man to beat, I have seen this guy ride from his 85cc days until now and I litteraly have never seen anyone as talented and fast as he is. I don't want this thread going to be a Herlings vs the world discussion, but in my eyes he will be the guy to beat. If he stays smart and settles for 2nd to 5th place a couple of times he will win the championship. Gajser, Febvre, Cairoli, Paulin and some more of those guys will be in fire on most of the tracks, so it will be interesting. But you can count on him winning Valkenswaard, Kegums and Lommel Grinning

MX2 class will be interesting. I think it will be a battle between Seewer, Paturel and Jonass. Jonass is working with De Reuver now and they have a strong base together. So if Jonass keeps his head cool several times I think he will win the championship. However, Seewer hardly makes any mistakes so that will be his main competitor. I don't see a guy like Prado riding for the championship this year yet. Bogers and V doninck will probably get their first race/overall win this year.

I haven't seen any discussion about the EMX yet, but I have my eyes on Jago Geerts for a couple of years now. I think he will have a strong EMX250 campaign. Interested to see how Charboneau does too. Speaking of EMX250, Thomas Kjerr Olsen is riding MX2 this year too, I'm curious how he does, same goes for Sanayei. I love that kids style. Hunter Lawrence will be riding Suzuki, will he ride the EMX250 championship or the MX2 class?

I'm excited for the season, however for me it starts at Argentinia, the most beautiful track of the series.
Jago Geerts is the real deal!! I'm so hyped up for EMX250. Will be interesting to see how Pichon his kid will do to, now that he is riding on one of Everts his rmz's!
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JB479 1/11/2017 9:58pm
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Cortami79 wrote:
In my eyes Herlings is the man to beat, I have seen this guy ride from his 85cc days until now and I litteraly have never...
In my eyes Herlings is the man to beat, I have seen this guy ride from his 85cc days until now and I litteraly have never seen anyone as talented and fast as he is. I don't want this thread going to be a Herlings vs the world discussion, but in my eyes he will be the guy to beat. If he stays smart and settles for 2nd to 5th place a couple of times he will win the championship. Gajser, Febvre, Cairoli, Paulin and some more of those guys will be in fire on most of the tracks, so it will be interesting. But you can count on him winning Valkenswaard, Kegums and Lommel Grinning

MX2 class will be interesting. I think it will be a battle between Seewer, Paturel and Jonass. Jonass is working with De Reuver now and they have a strong base together. So if Jonass keeps his head cool several times I think he will win the championship. However, Seewer hardly makes any mistakes so that will be his main competitor. I don't see a guy like Prado riding for the championship this year yet. Bogers and V doninck will probably get their first race/overall win this year.

I haven't seen any discussion about the EMX yet, but I have my eyes on Jago Geerts for a couple of years now. I think he will have a strong EMX250 campaign. Interested to see how Charboneau does too. Speaking of EMX250, Thomas Kjerr Olsen is riding MX2 this year too, I'm curious how he does, same goes for Sanayei. I love that kids style. Hunter Lawrence will be riding Suzuki, will he ride the EMX250 championship or the MX2 class?

I'm excited for the season, however for me it starts at Argentinia, the most beautiful track of the series.
Sandwarrior752 wrote:
Jago Geerts is the real deal!! I'm so hyped up for EMX250. Will be interesting to see how Pichon his kid will do to, now that...
Jago Geerts is the real deal!! I'm so hyped up for EMX250. Will be interesting to see how Pichon his kid will do to, now that he is riding on one of Everts his rmz's!
Keep an eye out for Jed beaton in emx250. His technique is really good. He was the same speed as hunter before he went to Europe. Downside he seems to be unlucky with injuries. I hope the honda he is on is fast cause hes a bigger guy aswell.
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RbR 1/11/2017 10:04pm
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IMO ,,, Baring injury, Herlings will have the title locked up by the third to last round.

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jeffro503 1/11/2017 10:05pm
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Really , really looking forward to watching all the GP's again this year!!
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Cortami79 1/12/2017 12:04am
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Oh yeah i forgot about Pichon! That guy has an amazing style, really stands out from the rest, but he seems to crash a lot. Never heard of Jed Beaton but I will follow him for a bit. Some other kids in EMX125 are very talented too. Mikkel Haarup (?) could barely get his feet on the ground but was fast as hell in the races. Our own Raivo Dankers has some great talent too. But in my eyes their career really starts in the EMX250 class. So many great 125 riders dropped when they moved over to 250's
Harry Backmon 1/12/2017 4:57am
1/12/2017 4:57am
Got my season pass, guys. Now that I've become familiar with the riders, I have been sucked into the GP vortex. I don't really care who wins the championship, but 222 is my sentimental favorite.
scottydogmx 1/12/2017 6:06am
1/12/2017 6:06am
Harry Backmon wrote:
Got my season pass, guys. Now that I've become familiar with the riders, I have been sucked into the GP vortex. I don't really care who...
Got my season pass, guys. Now that I've become familiar with the riders, I have been sucked into the GP vortex. I don't really care who wins the championship, but 222 is my sentimental favorite.
I don't care who wins too, I just want to see races with lots of quality racing!
I think this year is set to be a good one for both mx1 and mx2.

Please, please let all the riders stay healthy.
Brownstone322 1/12/2017 6:36am
1/12/2017 6:36am
Park Boys wrote:
If Gasjer improves as much this year as he has the last two than everyone will be racing for second. But thats a big ask. None...
If Gasjer improves as much this year as he has the last two than everyone will be racing for second. But thats a big ask. None the less we have never seen a 20 year old this fast outdoors.
I like Gajser, I like him a lot, but he crashes out of the lead too much. There's no question about his sheer speed; he needs to work on his racecraft.

Herlings, on the other hand, is the total package.
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DeStouwer 1/12/2017 7:10am
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Park Boys wrote:
If Gasjer improves as much this year as he has the last two than everyone will be racing for second. But thats a big ask. None...
If Gasjer improves as much this year as he has the last two than everyone will be racing for second. But thats a big ask. None the less we have never seen a 20 year old this fast outdoors.
Brownstone322 wrote:
I like Gajser, I like him a lot, but he crashes out of the lead too much. There's no question about his sheer speed; he needs...
I like Gajser, I like him a lot, but he crashes out of the lead too much. There's no question about his sheer speed; he needs to work on his racecraft.

Herlings, on the other hand, is the total package.
Herlings still has to prove he can complete a season without missing some races due injuries. Last time he managed to do so was in 2012. It worked out for him in MX2, but he's playing the big game now.
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Park Boys 1/12/2017 7:11am
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Park Boys wrote:
If Gasjer improves as much this year as he has the last two than everyone will be racing for second. But thats a big ask. None...
If Gasjer improves as much this year as he has the last two than everyone will be racing for second. But thats a big ask. None the less we have never seen a 20 year old this fast outdoors.
Brownstone322 wrote:
I like Gajser, I like him a lot, but he crashes out of the lead too much. There's no question about his sheer speed; he needs...
I like Gajser, I like him a lot, but he crashes out of the lead too much. There's no question about his sheer speed; he needs to work on his racecraft.

Herlings, on the other hand, is the total package.
All three of the favorites in the MXGP crash quite a bit including Herlings. Hasn't Herlings had more injuries than Gasjer and Febvre combined?
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DP#201 1/12/2017 7:49am
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Park Boys wrote:
All three of the favorites in the MXGP crash quite a bit including Herlings. Hasn't Herlings had more injuries than Gasjer and Febvre combined?
Its not that Herlings crashes alot, he actualy doesnt, its just when he does crash he tendt to get injured pretty easy..
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aharper33 1/12/2017 8:54am
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Cortami79 wrote:
In my eyes Herlings is the man to beat, I have seen this guy ride from his 85cc days until now and I litteraly have never...
In my eyes Herlings is the man to beat, I have seen this guy ride from his 85cc days until now and I litteraly have never seen anyone as talented and fast as he is. I don't want this thread going to be a Herlings vs the world discussion, but in my eyes he will be the guy to beat. If he stays smart and settles for 2nd to 5th place a couple of times he will win the championship. Gajser, Febvre, Cairoli, Paulin and some more of those guys will be in fire on most of the tracks, so it will be interesting. But you can count on him winning Valkenswaard, Kegums and Lommel Grinning

MX2 class will be interesting. I think it will be a battle between Seewer, Paturel and Jonass. Jonass is working with De Reuver now and they have a strong base together. So if Jonass keeps his head cool several times I think he will win the championship. However, Seewer hardly makes any mistakes so that will be his main competitor. I don't see a guy like Prado riding for the championship this year yet. Bogers and V doninck will probably get their first race/overall win this year.

I haven't seen any discussion about the EMX yet, but I have my eyes on Jago Geerts for a couple of years now. I think he will have a strong EMX250 campaign. Interested to see how Charboneau does too. Speaking of EMX250, Thomas Kjerr Olsen is riding MX2 this year too, I'm curious how he does, same goes for Sanayei. I love that kids style. Hunter Lawrence will be riding Suzuki, will he ride the EMX250 championship or the MX2 class?

I'm excited for the season, however for me it starts at Argentinia, the most beautiful track of the series.
I love watching the GP races and I think the first paragraph that Cortami79 wrote is the biggest key for any of these guys. The guy that takes a 2nd or 3rd instead of crashing out and getting hurt is probably going to win the championship. This is how I think Dungey wins his championships.
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scottydogmx 1/12/2017 9:13am
1/12/2017 9:13am
I've said this before, Herlings and Gasjer ( not so much Fevbre) are accidents waiting to happen with the amount of pressure they are going to get from a healthy 222 etc, who will be right there to pick up the peices.
Brownstone322 1/12/2017 10:31am
1/12/2017 10:31am
DP#201 wrote:
Its not that Herlings crashes alot, he actualy doesnt, its just when he does crash he tendt to get injured pretty easy..
Yeah, this is right. Herlings wins almost every moto; you can't do that by crashing a lot. But when he does crash, oh man, he crashes big. Everyone else is right about his proneness to injury, that's for certain.

My point about Gajser was that he crashes out of the lead a lot, usually minor spills, but bad enough. Even near the end of the season he had a big spill at Assen that broke the bike, and he crashed from the lead at Charlotte too. If he refines his top-speed game a little, he will be VERY tough.

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