2017 ktm 250sx or 250f

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I'm getting a new bike after New Years and I'm really struggling to decide which to get. I race 250c and open c is this 2 stroke really as smooth as the magazines and videos say it is ? Or are they just trying to help ktm sell they're bike.
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ryanxmx31 12/22/2016 4:36pm
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Get a 250f a two stroke will never be a smooth and tractable as a 250f. unless you ride a lot of sand or loose conditions then I feel like a two stoke is pretty good. Two strokes are a lot easier to sell too
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urbanlift707 12/23/2016 9:26am
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I'm super biased as I've become a complete two stroke nut, but IMO there would never be a situation where I feel like a 250f would be more fun. I race 450 B and vet master on my 17 250sx, I'd image against 250f's you'd have an advantage in almost all conditions.

I'm coming off a 2015 rmz450 and a 2006 rm250. Sure it's a smooth power band, but it's still all two stroke. I'd really not classify as much smoother than my 06, it's def much faster though.
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BobPA 12/23/2016 10:12am
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I like two strokes as much as the next guy, but it is easier to go fast on a 250f...especially in C class
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yz133rider 12/23/2016 10:20am
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BobPA wrote:
I like two strokes as much as the next guy, but it is easier to go fast on a 250f...especially in C class
Def don't need a 17 for it either LMAO
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colorado2day 12/23/2016 10:21am
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BobPA wrote:
I like two strokes as much as the next guy, but it is easier to go fast on a 250f...especially in C class
Yeah. I guess if you never rode a 2 stroke.....
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BobPA 12/23/2016 10:24am
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BobPA wrote:
I like two strokes as much as the next guy, but it is easier to go fast on a 250f...especially in C class
colorado2day wrote:
Yeah. I guess if you never rode a 2 stroke.....
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ginger969 12/23/2016 10:38am
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sx Smile more fun! great power and zero vibration
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kott0n 12/23/2016 10:41am
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The 2 stroke vibration comments always make me smile.

I have a 2006 Crf250r chassis with a Cr500 motor.

All the 2 strokes I've ever owned or ridden only vibrate when you are sitting still.

Who sits still on a mx bike?
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Tom_Ryan 12/23/2016 10:44am
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I think I'm just going to go with the 2 stroke I just worry i won't be as competitive on it as I am on the 4. But I guess I don't know till I try it.
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colorado2day 12/23/2016 10:47am
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Tom_Ryan wrote:
I think I'm just going to go with the 2 stroke I just worry i won't be as competitive on it as I am on the...
I think I'm just going to go with the 2 stroke I just worry i won't be as competitive on it as I am on the 4. But I guess I don't know till I try it.
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resetjet 12/23/2016 11:33am
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250f. Rode both. That 250 is not for a c class rider and the 250f is best to date. Will even get away from you a little
Pete The Fisherman 12/23/2016 1:44pm
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Why not a 125 or 150? A 150 would probably better suite you. Especially if you've never ridden a 2 stroke before.
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Tom_Ryan 12/23/2016 1:46pm
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Pete The Fisherman wrote:
Why not a 125 or 150? A 150 would probably better suite you. Especially if you've never ridden a 2 stroke before.
After moving up from a supermini I had a 150 then I got a 250f been on that for a year
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Tom_Ryan wrote:
I'm getting a new bike after New Years and I'm really struggling to decide which to get. I race 250c and open c is this 2...
I'm getting a new bike after New Years and I'm really struggling to decide which to get. I race 250c and open c is this 2 stroke really as smooth as the magazines and videos say it is ? Or are they just trying to help ktm sell they're bike.
If you are racing a lot , I say get the 250f. They are easier to ride harder and over the course of the season that will pay off. Like someone else said, if you are riding a lot of sandy tracks, or like to play ride in the dunes, freeride, etc. then go with the 2 stroke.

I haven't ridden the new 250sx, but am definitely thinking about buying one and would be coming off of 2013 250sx. I can't imagine the 17 is going to be that much different than any other smoker I have owned. It is still a different riding style and one that takes more skill than any 4s I have ridden.
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Tom_Ryan wrote:
I'm getting a new bike after New Years and I'm really struggling to decide which to get. I race 250c and open c is this 2...
I'm getting a new bike after New Years and I'm really struggling to decide which to get. I race 250c and open c is this 2 stroke really as smooth as the magazines and videos say it is ? Or are they just trying to help ktm sell they're bike.
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colorado2day 12/23/2016 2:50pm
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Of course just when you get the jetting figured out KTM will release their EFI version Evil



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JWACK 12/23/2016 3:55pm
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In the 250 class. 250 twostroke all day. Way more competitive. More fun. Better starts. Better handling. Better sound. Cheeper rebuilds. More trophys. More chicks. It's a win win win.
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Bulldog 12/23/2016 4:41pm
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We just went thru this drill - 250F or 250SX. We leaned towards the 250F but settled on the 250SX. We are currently selling a 2016 250SX and I can tell you the vibration from the 2016 to 2017 - it is gone just like they say. On the bottom it is smooth as you roll on the power. It is still a rocket ship up top but the bottom rolls on almost as smooth as the 250Fs we have tried. Vibration? What vibration? Believe the hype! KTM did their homework once again.
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burn1986 12/23/2016 8:58pm
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These 2 strokes are bad-ss, period. If they aren't smooth enough, put s flywheel weight. If you don't like it, try and sell it to get the 4-stroke.

But just get what you really want or wherever you can get the best deal.
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chump6784 12/23/2016 9:11pm
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Tom_Ryan wrote:
I think I'm just going to go with the 2 stroke I just worry i won't be as competitive on it as I am on the...
I think I'm just going to go with the 2 stroke I just worry i won't be as competitive on it as I am on the 4. But I guess I don't know till I try it.
In my experience my results were better on the 2 stroke than they would have been on the 4 stroke. Reason being is the start.
You really have to stuff something up to not be in the first few bikes into the first corner. One of the tracks I used to race at ran all the 250's in one class, no grades. I would generally be in the first few bikes off the start and then the fast guys would come through and pull away. Eventually the guys who were only a little bit faster would catch me but all I had to do was hold my lines and then use the power out of the corners to gap them enough that they couldn't make a move at the next corner.
If I'd have started back with those guys they most likely would have beaten me.
At the end of one race as I was pushing my bike through the pits the father of a guy I was holding up asked him what happened. He said to his dad I just had nothing for that ktm.

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