Monitoring heart rates

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Looking at the MXA articale MXA Heart rate article had me thinking about who does monitor their heart rate during training and moto? I use the Garmen Felix 3 ...although it is a risk when riding that I could smash it, I havent yet (touch wood).

Anyone else use a device of some kind??
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bdavis435 12/13/2016 12:03pm
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kiwifan wrote:
Looking at the MXA articale [url=http://motocrossactionmag.com/home-page/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-your-morning-heart-rate]MXA Heart rate article[/url] had me thinking about who does monitor their heart rate during training and moto? I use the...
Looking at the MXA articale MXA Heart rate article had me thinking about who does monitor their heart rate during training and moto? I use the Garmen Felix 3 ...although it is a risk when riding that I could smash it, I havent yet (touch wood).

Anyone else use a device of some kind??
I've attempted to use a fit bit as a cheaper alternative but it wasn't accurate. I was getting very inconsistent readings when uploading the trends afterwards. It worked fine when working out so maybe there was too much movement on the bike to work properly. I'd be curious to see if anyone else has tried a fit bit.
Aussie_power_sports 12/13/2016 12:07pm
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I use it when doing all my off the bike training.

I find its a bit of a waste of time on the bike beside going "ooh wow look at those high numbers"

My HR on the bike will sit at 180-185avg for a 2 hour hare scramble. Which by most literature i have read is impossible for a heart to sit at for that duration.
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EddieC 12/13/2016 12:38pm
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Aussie_power_sports wrote:
I use it when doing all my off the bike training. I find its a bit of a waste of time on the bike beside going...
I use it when doing all my off the bike training.

I find its a bit of a waste of time on the bike beside going "ooh wow look at those high numbers"

My HR on the bike will sit at 180-185avg for a 2 hour hare scramble. Which by most literature i have read is impossible for a heart to sit at for that duration.
If you follow the generic formula of 220 - your age then yes monitoring your HR is pointless. This is where VO2 testing comes in handy as this test will determine what your true MAX HR is.

Here is my question, why do HR training in the first place? The only place I use HR during track work is when we do sprints. To maximize training during sprints its important to know when a rider should start another sprint. This is done through HR. Depending on the training stimulus a predetermined HR is established and when this HR is achieved the rider resumes his sprint. If you don't know how to set these percentages of HR for the amount of sprints you are doing you can will not make gains but instead set yourself up for overtraining.

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hbdesigns913 12/13/2016 1:33pm
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I use the polar rcx3. Use it for running, mountain biking and Moto. I can also use the monitor to blue tooth to my strava.

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Tim507 12/13/2016 1:47pm
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I use the Garmin.....The Forerunner® 920XT multisport GPS watch records detailed metrics for your swim, bike and run activities. Advanced features include running dynamics (when used with a HRM-Run™ monitor), VO2 max estimate (when used with a heart rate monitor), live tracking and smart notifications..

I use the outdoor bicycle mode....it also provides lots of detail

I do not wear it every time as one gets to have a good sense what is happening after training with it for awhile.
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Polar M400. Polar app is great! Syncs with Strava.
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kiwifan 12/13/2016 2:01pm
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bdavis435 wrote:
I've attempted to use a fit bit as a cheaper alternative but it wasn't accurate. I was getting very inconsistent readings when uploading the trends afterwards...
I've attempted to use a fit bit as a cheaper alternative but it wasn't accurate. I was getting very inconsistent readings when uploading the trends afterwards. It worked fine when working out so maybe there was too much movement on the bike to work properly. I'd be curious to see if anyone else has tried a fit bit.
Yep, I tried the Fitbit Baze but found it inaccurate too.
Aussie_power_sports 12/13/2016 2:40pm
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EddieC wrote:
If you follow the generic formula of 220 - your age then yes monitoring your HR is pointless. This is where VO2 testing comes in handy...
If you follow the generic formula of 220 - your age then yes monitoring your HR is pointless. This is where VO2 testing comes in handy as this test will determine what your true MAX HR is.

Here is my question, why do HR training in the first place? The only place I use HR during track work is when we do sprints. To maximize training during sprints its important to know when a rider should start another sprint. This is done through HR. Depending on the training stimulus a predetermined HR is established and when this HR is achieved the rider resumes his sprint. If you don't know how to set these percentages of HR for the amount of sprints you are doing you can will not make gains but instead set yourself up for overtraining.

I use it to make sure im staying below my limit for cardio training in the offseason to build base fitness. Started doing this after listening to rob beams on dmxs and researching more into.

Using the 180 - your age = the upper limit your long slow cardio.

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kiwifan 12/13/2016 3:28pm
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Aussie_power_sports wrote:
I use it when doing all my off the bike training. I find its a bit of a waste of time on the bike beside going...
I use it when doing all my off the bike training.

I find its a bit of a waste of time on the bike beside going "ooh wow look at those high numbers"

My HR on the bike will sit at 180-185avg for a 2 hour hare scramble. Which by most literature i have read is impossible for a heart to sit at for that duration.
EddieC wrote:
If you follow the generic formula of 220 - your age then yes monitoring your HR is pointless. This is where VO2 testing comes in handy...
If you follow the generic formula of 220 - your age then yes monitoring your HR is pointless. This is where VO2 testing comes in handy as this test will determine what your true MAX HR is.

Here is my question, why do HR training in the first place? The only place I use HR during track work is when we do sprints. To maximize training during sprints its important to know when a rider should start another sprint. This is done through HR. Depending on the training stimulus a predetermined HR is established and when this HR is achieved the rider resumes his sprint. If you don't know how to set these percentages of HR for the amount of sprints you are doing you can will not make gains but instead set yourself up for overtraining.

Yes but my point is having a device that can accurately record the training, I also use it a lot when boxing and playing squash Smile and most good devices these days actually do monitor VO2.
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Jbulz 12/13/2016 3:48pm
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I've been using the app, Sports-Tracker on my android, and their 'Smart Sensor.'

So far I like that you can log and track workouts. Been using it for about a year now.
kevin.decker.125 12/13/2016 4:03pm
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Aussie_power_sports wrote:
I use it when doing all my off the bike training. I find its a bit of a waste of time on the bike beside going...
I use it when doing all my off the bike training.

I find its a bit of a waste of time on the bike beside going "ooh wow look at those high numbers"

My HR on the bike will sit at 180-185avg for a 2 hour hare scramble. Which by most literature i have read is impossible for a heart to sit at for that duration.
EddieC wrote:
If you follow the generic formula of 220 - your age then yes monitoring your HR is pointless. This is where VO2 testing comes in handy...
If you follow the generic formula of 220 - your age then yes monitoring your HR is pointless. This is where VO2 testing comes in handy as this test will determine what your true MAX HR is.

Here is my question, why do HR training in the first place? The only place I use HR during track work is when we do sprints. To maximize training during sprints its important to know when a rider should start another sprint. This is done through HR. Depending on the training stimulus a predetermined HR is established and when this HR is achieved the rider resumes his sprint. If you don't know how to set these percentages of HR for the amount of sprints you are doing you can will not make gains but instead set yourself up for overtraining.

That generic formula is only good for about 30% of the population. Karvonen formula a bit better. Look up LT Test methods..try to see where you go anaerobic ( your LT). Generally...above 80% of your max, you go anaerobic. Important because you cannot sustain anaerobic as long as if you're in the aerobic Zone.
HR is the only objective way to know how hard/ez you are working out.
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aedwards07 12/13/2016 5:18pm
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Polar m400 here as well.
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tcallahan707 12/14/2016 8:21am
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I run the Garmin Vivoactive HR for all off the bike stuff. It's got GPS, multisport, and activity tracking all with an optical HR on the wrist. It tracks my mtn/road bike rides without having to carry a phone and then the Garmin app syncs to Strava. It also can track swims (in a pool), my sleep patterns, and my resting heart rate. I've found that for some reason, the heart rate tracking seems to be a bit slow to react when on a spin bike though. It may be due to the angle of my wrist? All in all, a pretty solid off the bike training tool as well as general fitness for about $250.

I tried the Vivo while riding but it doesn't allow me to mark my lap point via GPS so I can't do lap times. I was using a Garmin Forerunner 310XT for that but I picked up a LitPro with a chest strap and that thing blows any on the bike training tool away.

If you are remotely serious about training, you need to be tracking your heart rate. And as mentioned above, the Lactate Threshold (LT) test is the best way to establish your max heart rate and zones (unless you have access to some fancy Red Bull laboratory).
Dirty Britches 12/14/2016 9:05am
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Tim507 wrote:
I use the Garmin.....The Forerunner® 920XT multisport GPS watch records detailed metrics for your swim, bike and run activities. Advanced features include running dynamics (when used...
I use the Garmin.....The Forerunner® 920XT multisport GPS watch records detailed metrics for your swim, bike and run activities. Advanced features include running dynamics (when used with a HRM-Run™ monitor), VO2 max estimate (when used with a heart rate monitor), live tracking and smart notifications..

I use the outdoor bicycle mode....it also provides lots of detail

I do not wear it every time as one gets to have a good sense what is happening after training with it for awhile.
I have the 920xt as well. She carried me 14 hours through an Ironman.

They are on sale for $250 now. I'm guessing Garmin is getting ready to release the next new triathlon watch.

It's fun to look at the run and cycle dynamics comparing previous training sessions to your current session.
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Levoe210 12/15/2016 12:23pm
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Old school Garmin Forerunner 405... Still gets the job done.
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gekko 12/15/2016 10:37pm
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Garmin Forerunner 405 for moto and Garmin Fenix 3 for all other training (don´t want to smash a $450 watch)

However, the forerunner is about to give up and the dials on the watch are making small holes in my hand. So if anyone can recommend a small good Garmin watch for moto I´ll update my list to santa .. =)
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Turbojez 12/16/2016 6:08am
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Cheap sigma pc 25.10 so I wouldn't be too worried if anything happens to it.
Average HR while riding moto: 185-190.
My plan is to save up for a Garmin, just to keep track on laptimes and progress.

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