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10/27/2016 4:07pm
Good luck to Jimmy and his Ponca City podium brother in whatever they do next year.....and onward. Smile
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Really disappointed when I saw this. The whole Albertson crew is awesome. Great people to talk to and for sure a hard working bunch. I will...
Really disappointed when I saw this. The whole Albertson crew is awesome. Great people to talk to and for sure a hard working bunch. I will not purchase from Motorcycle Superstore again after the way this went. I think this year they had the best looking bikes in the pits. I loved them.







oshow wrote:
Did you wear your pants and boots to the race as well? (Entire pick up kit)
Haha no. That whole night my buddies were bustin my chops because I wore a matching hat and jersey. But a few years ago at Indy...
Haha no. That whole night my buddies were bustin my chops because I wore a matching hat and jersey. But a few years ago at Indy SX some guy wore his full get up. Thor PC Monster Kawasaki gear. Boots all the way up to his helmet. He had that on walking around in the pits giving hi-fives to younger kids. Thought it was really funny when he had to bum a smoke off somebody through the fence lol
I was wondering also,why you wore a jersey.
10/27/2016 5:45pm
oshow wrote:
Did you wear your pants and boots to the race as well? (Entire pick up kit)
Haha no. That whole night my buddies were bustin my chops because I wore a matching hat and jersey. But a few years ago at Indy...
Haha no. That whole night my buddies were bustin my chops because I wore a matching hat and jersey. But a few years ago at Indy SX some guy wore his full get up. Thor PC Monster Kawasaki gear. Boots all the way up to his helmet. He had that on walking around in the pits giving hi-fives to younger kids. Thought it was really funny when he had to bum a smoke off somebody through the fence lol
mxb2 wrote:
I was wondering also,why you wore a jersey.
I'm that guy
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10/27/2016 5:48pm
Haha no. That whole night my buddies were bustin my chops because I wore a matching hat and jersey. But a few years ago at Indy...
Haha no. That whole night my buddies were bustin my chops because I wore a matching hat and jersey. But a few years ago at Indy SX some guy wore his full get up. Thor PC Monster Kawasaki gear. Boots all the way up to his helmet. He had that on walking around in the pits giving hi-fives to younger kids. Thought it was really funny when he had to bum a smoke off somebody through the fence lol
mxb2 wrote:
I was wondering also,why you wore a jersey.
I'm that guy
Lol.

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10/27/2016 5:51pm
oshow wrote:
Did you wear your pants and boots to the race as well? (Entire pick up kit)
Haha no. That whole night my buddies were bustin my chops because I wore a matching hat and jersey. But a few years ago at Indy...
Haha no. That whole night my buddies were bustin my chops because I wore a matching hat and jersey. But a few years ago at Indy SX some guy wore his full get up. Thor PC Monster Kawasaki gear. Boots all the way up to his helmet. He had that on walking around in the pits giving hi-fives to younger kids. Thought it was really funny when he had to bum a smoke off somebody through the fence lol
mxb2 wrote:
I was wondering also,why you wore a jersey.
I heard that you were core if you wear fox and monster energy stuff.
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mxb2 wrote:
I was wondering also,why you wore a jersey.
Isn't it odd our sport shames people for wearing jerseys to events?





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mxb2 wrote:
I was wondering also,why you wore a jersey.
Josh422 wrote:
Isn't it odd our sport shames people for wearing jerseys to events? [img]http://images.en.yibada.com/data/thumbs/full/95463/685/0/0/0/fans-wear-an-array-of-jerseys-as-they-attend-the-game-to-see-kobe-bryant-in-his-final-game-at-pepsi-center-in-denver-colorado.jpg[/img] [img]https://sportsczechout.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/nfl_europe_fans.jpg[/img] [img]https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/AR-AG264_YANKER_G_20140605210129.jpg[/img]
Isn't it odd our sport shames people for wearing jerseys to events?





Good point.
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Josh422 wrote:
Isn't it odd our sport shames people for wearing jerseys to events? [img]http://images.en.yibada.com/data/thumbs/full/95463/685/0/0/0/fans-wear-an-array-of-jerseys-as-they-attend-the-game-to-see-kobe-bryant-in-his-final-game-at-pepsi-center-in-denver-colorado.jpg[/img] [img]https://sportsczechout.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/nfl_europe_fans.jpg[/img] [img]https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/AR-AG264_YANKER_G_20140605210129.jpg[/img]
Isn't it odd our sport shames people for wearing jerseys to events?





But are people wearing their YMCA co-ed basketball team jersey to the NBA game? It's not exactly an apples to apples comparison.
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Josh422 wrote:
Isn't it odd our sport shames people for wearing jerseys to events? [img]http://images.en.yibada.com/data/thumbs/full/95463/685/0/0/0/fans-wear-an-array-of-jerseys-as-they-attend-the-game-to-see-kobe-bryant-in-his-final-game-at-pepsi-center-in-denver-colorado.jpg[/img] [img]https://sportsczechout.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/nfl_europe_fans.jpg[/img] [img]https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/AR-AG264_YANKER_G_20140605210129.jpg[/img]
Isn't it odd our sport shames people for wearing jerseys to events?





731chopper wrote:
But are people wearing their YMCA co-ed basketball team jersey to the NBA game? It's not exactly an apples to apples comparison.
Yeah but where's the licensed replica jerseys for SX? I'd say I see just as many people wearing their own jersey as much as I do of their favorite rider. Believe it to be from of lack of options.
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Jimmy put the deal together for the rig with his relationships within the industry. He ran the full SX/MX schedule (29 races) on what some teams...
Jimmy put the deal together for the rig with his relationships within the industry. He ran the full SX/MX schedule (29 races) on what some teams probably spent getting their semi and setting it up to race, let alone employing 9 other people in the industry fulfilling their passion.

The deal was struck mid November 2015 with MCSS. It was a three year deal from the beginning with both parties. Each party knew it was a longer term investment in this industry, and that the first year would be a building process toward year two and three. So with less than two months prior to Anaheim to hire riders, mechanics, get bikes shipped from Suzuki, testing, putting together race and practice bikes, signing other sponsors, aftermarket parts, a rig and driver, graphics, housing for the team on the west coast, arranging all the logistics....the list goes on. Keep in mind also that Suzuki’s had not been raced by any major teams for years, so they would be starting from scratch with the bikes, whereas with other brands there were many shops building competitive motors and chassis for years at the top level of the sport. These teams can run 18:1 compression (just the tip of the iceberg) since they tear down their motors most every race. Their FedEx bill is more than most people make at their jobs in a year. Making the bike competitive ( with reliability) with these major teams with gigantic budgets is not an easy task, and it took a good portion of the year to get completely dialed in.

People are talking about results: You start a team in November knowing that between Pro Circuit, Geico, Star, TLD and Rockstar Husky that 20 top riders have been signed and practicing for months already. The MCSS Suzuki team was putting riders in the main every week, and doing a fantastic job with their pit presence. There were races when Baggett and Stewart were both out and their semi did not even attend the races. A strong pit presence is important for a manufacture if you have ever been to a Supercross. The team achieved that goal above and beyond anybody's expectation for a first year team. Anybody remember the "Blue Angels" bike schemes at San Diego. Of course you do. I might be biased, but I think the team had the best looking bike in the pits.

Jimmy is grateful for the year with MCSS, but in the end they failed on their commitment. The hardest work had been done and the goal being offered the "factory support" Suzuki team had been achieved. To go into the relationship with Suzuki as the factory supported effort without a title sponsor this late in the game would be a huge risk. It is an 18 hour a day job...7 days a week running a team...let alone training and riding. Jimmy has high standards and knows what it takes to run a team properly, and he proved it. Ask Cunningham or Osby, and anybody who has worked for Jimmy. I can say this....there is nobody that could have put together an effort of this caliber on the budget Jimmy had to work with. I would guess he will do it again someday in the future.....when he can do it right.

Jimmy will continue to work with all the other team sponsors (click on "sponsors") for 2017 , as he truly treasures those relationships, many of which are long term. American Suzuki has been "over the top" with their support, and he is truly excited to continue that relationship, as he feels he has found a “home” to finish out his racing career(no time soon). He loves the Suzuki RMZ450, and yes, you will see him at Anaheim back in the premier class.

Sincerely,
A big “Top Jimmy” fan
Would be nice to hear more about 18:1 compression engines.
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tek14 wrote:
Would be nice to hear more about 18:1 compression engines.
From what I hear, the extremely high compression puts so much stress on the center cases that they need to be replaced very often. I would also like to hear from some engine builders who have experimented with these extreme builds.
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GregDVT wrote:
I won't be making purchases from them after the way they handled this.
Back to Chaparral!
JeepnMike wrote:
I guess you forgot what Chapparal did to the Supercross.com team with Andrew Short Wink
LOL, people have short memories around here. Chapparal has sucked for a long time.
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tek14 wrote:
Would be nice to hear more about 18:1 compression engines.
Probably sounds like a diesel Grinning
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colintrax wrote:
Probably sounds like a diesel Grinning
Sounds like you don't know much about 18:1. It's a beautiful thing....until it isn't.Wink
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Back to Chaparral!
JeepnMike wrote:
I guess you forgot what Chapparal did to the Supercross.com team with Andrew Short Wink
newmann wrote:
LOL, people have short memories around here. Chapparal has sucked for a long time.
i hate chaparral..
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JeepnMike wrote:
I guess you forgot what Chapparal did to the Supercross.com team with Andrew Short Wink
newmann wrote:
LOL, people have short memories around here. Chapparal has sucked for a long time.
TSCHAM101 wrote:
i hate chaparral..
I went there and experienced it in person. Take a number, get in line....no thanks.

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From what I hear, the extremely high compression puts so much stress on the center cases that they need to be replaced very often. I would...
From what I hear, the extremely high compression puts so much stress on the center cases that they need to be replaced very often. I would also like to hear from some engine builders who have experimented with these extreme builds.
Compression is a lazy mans way to make power. Doesnt matter if its a 900hp sprint car engine or your kids go-kart. It makes the engine destroy itself instead of helping the engine do what it was intended to do; efficiently get air & fuel into a cylinder and completely (or as close as you can get) convert the BTUs in the fuel into expanding gas, then get it all the hell outta there and do it again.

Its all about flow, cam grind and valve timing events. The smart guy knows how to get those three to dance the ballet of stoichiometric combustion.
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From what I hear, the extremely high compression puts so much stress on the center cases that they need to be replaced very often. I would...
From what I hear, the extremely high compression puts so much stress on the center cases that they need to be replaced very often. I would also like to hear from some engine builders who have experimented with these extreme builds.
JAFO92 wrote:
Compression is a lazy mans way to make power. Doesnt matter if its a 900hp sprint car engine or your kids go-kart. It makes the engine...
Compression is a lazy mans way to make power. Doesnt matter if its a 900hp sprint car engine or your kids go-kart. It makes the engine destroy itself instead of helping the engine do what it was intended to do; efficiently get air & fuel into a cylinder and completely (or as close as you can get) convert the BTUs in the fuel into expanding gas, then get it all the hell outta there and do it again.

Its all about flow, cam grind and valve timing events. The smart guy knows how to get those three to dance the ballet of stoichiometric combustion.
So I guess if you take the ultra high compression and then combine that with the other elements mentioned, you have an extremely powerful engine with a short life span. The top riders riding the very best/most powerful equipment makes it very tough for even the best privateer/small team effort. The 450 class creates a much more even platform, so those who thinks the 450 class should go away.....think about the small guy. Remember it is not just about a race bike, but a practice bike during the week that can be fairly similar to race bike with much more time on the motor.
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motofan3 wrote:
Both sides supposedly had an opt out in the contract. Jimmy's team did great but superstore has had serious problems since it's relocation. Numerous layoffs, fired...
Both sides supposedly had an opt out in the contract. Jimmy's team did great but superstore has had serious problems since it's relocation. Numerous layoffs, fired the Dallas call center, and a few more challenges. Their focus needs to be on their core business and perhaps not a race team. New president not a dirt fan so writing was on the wall for the team.
Holeshot knows the deal if he says it was a 3 yr deal then it was 3 yrs....nobody could be closer to the deal than Holeshot other than Jimmy himself...
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motofan3 wrote:
Both sides supposedly had an opt out in the contract. Jimmy's team did great but superstore has had serious problems since it's relocation. Numerous layoffs, fired...
Both sides supposedly had an opt out in the contract. Jimmy's team did great but superstore has had serious problems since it's relocation. Numerous layoffs, fired the Dallas call center, and a few more challenges. Their focus needs to be on their core business and perhaps not a race team. New president not a dirt fan so writing was on the wall for the team.
DonM wrote:
Holeshot knows the deal if he says it was a 3 yr deal then it was 3 yrs....nobody could be closer to the deal than Holeshot...
Holeshot knows the deal if he says it was a 3 yr deal then it was 3 yrs....nobody could be closer to the deal than Holeshot other than Jimmy himself...
Or perhaps someone who was closer to the deal on the other side of the table.Whistling

You're naive if you think both parties did not have opt out agreements.

And another note, can we please end the whole "3 teams in 3 years, must be Jimmy" I can assure it is not Jimmy or anyone in his camp. Jimmy and continued to deliver unmatched ROI on marketing dollar.

Motosport had gone through some serious changes (Jimmy was not the only one to loose sponsorship dollars), the Arma deal was destined to fail I things I've heard about the Arma owner are true, and Superstore had it's reasons for pulling out (be it wise or unwise for their business).
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10/28/2016 10:18am Edited Date/Time 10/28/2016 10:18am
motofan3 wrote:
Both sides supposedly had an opt out in the contract. Jimmy's team did great but superstore has had serious problems since it's relocation. Numerous layoffs, fired...
Both sides supposedly had an opt out in the contract. Jimmy's team did great but superstore has had serious problems since it's relocation. Numerous layoffs, fired the Dallas call center, and a few more challenges. Their focus needs to be on their core business and perhaps not a race team. New president not a dirt fan so writing was on the wall for the team.
DonM wrote:
Holeshot knows the deal if he says it was a 3 yr deal then it was 3 yrs....nobody could be closer to the deal than Holeshot...
Holeshot knows the deal if he says it was a 3 yr deal then it was 3 yrs....nobody could be closer to the deal than Holeshot other than Jimmy himself...
Hudd_421 wrote:
Or perhaps someone who was closer to the deal on the other side of the table.:whistle: You're naive if you think both parties did not have...
Or perhaps someone who was closer to the deal on the other side of the table.Whistling

You're naive if you think both parties did not have opt out agreements.

And another note, can we please end the whole "3 teams in 3 years, must be Jimmy" I can assure it is not Jimmy or anyone in his camp. Jimmy and continued to deliver unmatched ROI on marketing dollar.

Motosport had gone through some serious changes (Jimmy was not the only one to loose sponsorship dollars), the Arma deal was destined to fail I things I've heard about the Arma owner are true, and Superstore had it's reasons for pulling out (be it wise or unwise for their business).
Well said!
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Hudd is correct. Like I said, opt outs make sense in year 1 and they have other issues to deal with in the business.
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Some of best looking bikes in the pits. Huge fan of Jimmy and bummed to read this. He busted his ass for this team.
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10/28/2016 12:32pm Edited Date/Time 1/22/2017 5:48pm
newmann wrote:
LOL, people have short memories around here. Chapparal has sucked for a long time.
TSCHAM101 wrote:
i hate chaparral..
newmann wrote:
I went there and experienced it in person. Take a number, get in line....no thanks. [img]https://www.microframecorp.com/media/catalog/product/3/-/3-digitsys_wireless_counter_zoom.jpg[/img]
I went there and experienced it in person. Take a number, get in line....no thanks.

Classic Parts went to the same soul-less system in their factory store. Never went back and it's 6 blocks away.
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Jimmy put the deal together for the rig with his relationships within the industry. He ran the full SX/MX schedule (29 races) on what some teams...
Jimmy put the deal together for the rig with his relationships within the industry. He ran the full SX/MX schedule (29 races) on what some teams probably spent getting their semi and setting it up to race, let alone employing 9 other people in the industry fulfilling their passion.

The deal was struck mid November 2015 with MCSS. It was a three year deal from the beginning with both parties. Each party knew it was a longer term investment in this industry, and that the first year would be a building process toward year two and three. So with less than two months prior to Anaheim to hire riders, mechanics, get bikes shipped from Suzuki, testing, putting together race and practice bikes, signing other sponsors, aftermarket parts, a rig and driver, graphics, housing for the team on the west coast, arranging all the logistics....the list goes on. Keep in mind also that Suzuki’s had not been raced by any major teams for years, so they would be starting from scratch with the bikes, whereas with other brands there were many shops building competitive motors and chassis for years at the top level of the sport. These teams can run 18:1 compression (just the tip of the iceberg) since they tear down their motors most every race. Their FedEx bill is more than most people make at their jobs in a year. Making the bike competitive ( with reliability) with these major teams with gigantic budgets is not an easy task, and it took a good portion of the year to get completely dialed in.

People are talking about results: You start a team in November knowing that between Pro Circuit, Geico, Star, TLD and Rockstar Husky that 20 top riders have been signed and practicing for months already. The MCSS Suzuki team was putting riders in the main every week, and doing a fantastic job with their pit presence. There were races when Baggett and Stewart were both out and their semi did not even attend the races. A strong pit presence is important for a manufacture if you have ever been to a Supercross. The team achieved that goal above and beyond anybody's expectation for a first year team. Anybody remember the "Blue Angels" bike schemes at San Diego. Of course you do. I might be biased, but I think the team had the best looking bike in the pits.

Jimmy is grateful for the year with MCSS, but in the end they failed on their commitment. The hardest work had been done and the goal being offered the "factory support" Suzuki team had been achieved. To go into the relationship with Suzuki as the factory supported effort without a title sponsor this late in the game would be a huge risk. It is an 18 hour a day job...7 days a week running a team...let alone training and riding. Jimmy has high standards and knows what it takes to run a team properly, and he proved it. Ask Cunningham or Osby, and anybody who has worked for Jimmy. I can say this....there is nobody that could have put together an effort of this caliber on the budget Jimmy had to work with. I would guess he will do it again someday in the future.....when he can do it right.

Jimmy will continue to work with all the other team sponsors (click on "sponsors") for 2017 , as he truly treasures those relationships, many of which are long term. American Suzuki has been "over the top" with their support, and he is truly excited to continue that relationship, as he feels he has found a “home” to finish out his racing career(no time soon). He loves the Suzuki RMZ450, and yes, you will see him at Anaheim back in the premier class.

Sincerely,
A big “Top Jimmy” fan
Brian, Do you know if MSS left because they wanted to sponsor a different Pro team? Or did they just decide to leave for financial reasons and then a different deal came along for them afterwards?
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10/28/2016 2:28pm Edited Date/Time 10/28/2016 6:44pm
Left cause they couldnt spend what they did the previous year. The new VP of marketing negotiated the swingarm sticker deal unbeknownst to those who did the legwork with jimmy the prior year.
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Not sure what swing arm sticker deal you're referring to. Not happening
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10/28/2016 6:43pm Edited Date/Time 10/28/2016 6:45pm
Hudd, it was the RCH one but you do have more info so I was wrong in assuming. I heard if they field a team it would be happening.

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