Is JA21 okay...?

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KMC440 9/25/2016 12:20pm
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The rider had their head looking at the rut the whole way. Never looking up till they were on the face. Just improper race craft. I've been landed on 3 times in my race days. All I would say to anyone is there's plenty of time to hoorah 50 yards after the flag.
inthebadboycorner 9/25/2016 12:32pm
9/25/2016 12:32pm
It appears JA21 will recover fully, and like all i wish him well.

I have to say for many years i have watched racing, many different forms of racing, and cringed as the winner celebrated and slowed on or just after the finish line, with no regard to what may be transpiring behind them, wether it be another battle for 2nd and 3rd, or an innocent lapper jumping on top of a negligent winner.

All riders must be aware of their surroundings and keep themselves safe, not create an unsafe situation, we are very lucky there was no permanent injury to both riders involved.


I know most of you won't agree, but this is how it really happened, no doubt this will stick in the mind of many and it won't occur again.
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JQ 9/25/2016 12:40pm
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KMC440 wrote:
The rider had their head looking at the rut the whole way. Never looking up till they were on the face. Just improper race craft. I've...
The rider had their head looking at the rut the whole way. Never looking up till they were on the face. Just improper race craft. I've been landed on 3 times in my race days. All I would say to anyone is there's plenty of time to hoorah 50 yards after the flag.
And you base this on what?
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KMC440 wrote:
The rider had their head looking at the rut the whole way. Never looking up till they were on the face. Just improper race craft. I've...
The rider had their head looking at the rut the whole way. Never looking up till they were on the face. Just improper race craft. I've been landed on 3 times in my race days. All I would say to anyone is there's plenty of time to hoorah 50 yards after the flag.
JQ wrote:
And you base this on what?
Well at least he didn't call him an idiot.....

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TDeath21 9/25/2016 12:48pm
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Team USA got robbed of the victory right at that instant in my opinion. I've never seen anything like that in my life.
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croom mx 9/25/2016 12:53pm
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TDeath21 wrote:
Team USA got robbed of the victory right at that instant in my opinion. I've never seen anything like that in my life.
I have seen this before in amateur racing, Along time ago I went off a finish line jump and the leader looked up as I landed about 10 feet from him. Its good that JA is OK. Live and learn.
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RG95 9/25/2016 1:12pm
9/25/2016 1:12pm Edited Date/Time 9/25/2016 1:17pm
Yes he's ok. I mean, he will be ok, luckily. Smile

http://racerxonline.com/2016/09/25/jason-anderson-update

His race was awesome, even considering that he was hurt already, I didn't expect that first place at all to be honest. Holeshot gave him a huge advantage from my point of view with those track conditions but he definitely rode great anyway.
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RG95 wrote:
Yes he's ok. I mean, he [b]will[/b] be ok, luckily. :) http://racerxonline.com/2016/09/25/jason-anderson-update His race was awesome, even considering that he was hurt already, I didn't expect...
Yes he's ok. I mean, he will be ok, luckily. Smile

http://racerxonline.com/2016/09/25/jason-anderson-update

His race was awesome, even considering that he was hurt already, I didn't expect that first place at all to be honest. Holeshot gave him a huge advantage from my point of view with those track conditions but he definitely rode great anyway.
All things considered, that's awesome to hear!

He rode great, it was shit his day had to end like that!
smashingpumpkins167 9/25/2016 1:17pm
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es337 wrote:
seems like it was a good thing JA had a neck brace on
For sure. It will be hard for the neck brace non believers to swallow this one. I wonder what Ryno thinks?
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RG95 wrote:
Yes he's ok. I mean, he [b]will[/b] be ok, luckily. :) http://racerxonline.com/2016/09/25/jason-anderson-update His race was awesome, even considering that he was hurt already, I didn't expect...
Yes he's ok. I mean, he will be ok, luckily. Smile

http://racerxonline.com/2016/09/25/jason-anderson-update

His race was awesome, even considering that he was hurt already, I didn't expect that first place at all to be honest. Holeshot gave him a huge advantage from my point of view with those track conditions but he definitely rode great anyway.
Nobody expected this, that why it is so great.
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croom mx 9/25/2016 1:21pm
9/25/2016 1:21pm Edited Date/Time 9/25/2016 1:22pm
If I was a Factory team manager, and I was looking for a rider, Jason Anderson would be my # 1 choice. Honda and Suzuki take notice.
TbonesPop 9/25/2016 1:22pm
9/25/2016 1:22pm
es337 wrote:
seems like it was a good thing JA had a neck brace on
smashingpumpkins167 wrote:
For sure. It will be hard for the neck brace non believers to swallow this one. I wonder what Ryno thinks?
Dang straight, perfect example of why they are beneficial. Glad JA21 is going to be ok. Brutal hit to the noggin. Bet he never does that again at the end of a race win.....
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KMC440 9/25/2016 1:34pm
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KMC440 wrote:
The rider had their head looking at the rut the whole way. Never looking up till they were on the face. Just improper race craft. I've...
The rider had their head looking at the rut the whole way. Never looking up till they were on the face. Just improper race craft. I've been landed on 3 times in my race days. All I would say to anyone is there's plenty of time to hoorah 50 yards after the flag.
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And you base this on what?
... ummmm the video ...
Motocross83 9/25/2016 1:35pm
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TDeath21 wrote:
Team USA got robbed of the victory right at that instant in my opinion. I've never seen anything like that in my life.
I think "robbed" is a little strong. My bet would be that America would've won too but, as with Team GB missing out on the podium last year (only needing one crappy moto score from Anstie, who was unable to ride), we can't know. Perhaps he would've gone down in the first turn and broken an arm, or suffered a mechanical etc. What they were definitely robbed of though was the opportunity to at least go into the last moto at full strength. The whole incident was freaky.
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bsharkey 9/25/2016 1:40pm
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I knows it hindsight but maybe just stop at the top of the jump like RV did for Dungey a few years back
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gt80rider 9/25/2016 1:40pm
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It isn't unusual for the winner to slow after crossing the line... It is unusual for a lapper right behind the leader to Huck the finish line jump.... There is no blame on Anderson here.... There is no way the lapper didn't see the winner take the checkered flag right in front of him...
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JustMX 9/25/2016 1:47pm
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wwoberg wrote:
I hope he is OK. I was having flashbacks on the Bubba Shobert crash years ago. It ended Bubba's career.
I thought of that as well.

I don't care who or when other riders have rolled over the finish.

Sometimes it takes something like this to see the possibility of something bad happening so it can be addressed.

As bad as this was, and as much as it sucks for Anderson and the American team, it could have easily had a much more tragic outcome.

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731chopper 9/25/2016 2:12pm
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Glad to hear he is relatively okay. I don't think the blame can be placed on anyone for the crash. Rolling a jump is dangerous but race winners have rolled the finish line jump hundreds of times. Congrats to Jason for winning that race and thanks for accepting the responsibility and risk to represent our Country.
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brimx153 9/25/2016 2:14pm
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Krallang wrote:
Who was the dumb ass that landed on him?
Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
I've no idea who it was but you talk like he did it on purpose. Anderson had 2 choices, either clear the jump or roll the...
I've no idea who it was but you talk like he did it on purpose. Anderson had 2 choices, either clear the jump or roll the jump off of the racing line. He chose the wrong option. The rider that landed on him was no doubt unsighted by the dip in the middle of the jump.
this !!, I am really just shocked how anyone can blame anyone, bar Anderson . If the rider had a rolled over the line and someone else lands on him .The same guys ,are going to be saying, why the hell did the lapped rider not clear the jump .
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edgo897 9/25/2016 2:17pm
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Why have a finish line jump anyway? It set up a dangerous situation.
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olds cool 9/25/2016 2:35pm
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edgo897 wrote:
Why have a finish line jump anyway? It set up a dangerous situation.
Exactly. Putting a finish line on a blind jump is what created the set of circumstances that allowed the possibility for this to happen. Is getting a picture of a race winner throwing a whip or doing whatever to celebrate with the checkered flag waving worth the possible tragedy that the circumstances create? Sure you can argue human error but why not just take away the possibility? Put the line coming out of a corner or at least somewhere with some visibility after the line. I know moto is an inherently dangerous sport but we can do better than this.
inthebadboycorner 9/25/2016 2:42pm
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edgo897 wrote:
Why have a finish line jump anyway? It set up a dangerous situation.
olds cool wrote:
Exactly. Putting a finish line on a blind jump is what created the set of circumstances that allowed the possibility for this to happen. Is getting...
Exactly. Putting a finish line on a blind jump is what created the set of circumstances that allowed the possibility for this to happen. Is getting a picture of a race winner throwing a whip or doing whatever to celebrate with the checkered flag waving worth the possible tragedy that the circumstances create? Sure you can argue human error but why not just take away the possibility? Put the line coming out of a corner or at least somewhere with some visibility after the line. I know moto is an inherently dangerous sport but we can do better than this.
Yes, like in the old days a victory mono over the line.
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KMC440 9/25/2016 2:42pm
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KMC440 wrote:
... ummmm the video ...
... ummmm the video ...
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https://streamable.com/6to4
Exactly ... at 5 sec mark look in the background... head down railin ....
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Clutchy 9/25/2016 3:11pm
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Bad deal for all.... Glad they're okay and will moto again...
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cjmx 9/25/2016 4:10pm
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Krallang wrote:
Who was the dumb ass that landed on him?
Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
I've no idea who it was but you talk like he did it on purpose. Anderson had 2 choices, either clear the jump or roll the...
I've no idea who it was but you talk like he did it on purpose. Anderson had 2 choices, either clear the jump or roll the jump off of the racing line. He chose the wrong option. The rider that landed on him was no doubt unsighted by the dip in the middle of the jump.
brimx153 wrote:
this !!, I am really just shocked how anyone can blame anyone, bar Anderson . If the rider had a rolled over the line and someone...
this !!, I am really just shocked how anyone can blame anyone, bar Anderson . If the rider had a rolled over the line and someone else lands on him .The same guys ,are going to be saying, why the hell did the lapped rider not clear the jump .
exactly, it wasn't the lappers fault. I guarantee JA21 won't be rolling finish line jumps in the future. I'm just glad he's OK.
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Beeby 9/25/2016 4:52pm
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I honestly do not know how people attempt to lay blame anywhere. Anderson won probably the biggest race of his life, as if he thought about someone landing on him. The back marker that landed on him was hardly irresponsible, he is in his own race and who knows if he could really see what was going on.

It's a racing incident.
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TXDirt 9/25/2016 4:58pm
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Decoster said the lapper didn't know what he was doing. Perhaps that not exactly an impartial opinion, however it's good enough for me. The lapper made a mistake. Hell, the very next Moto Herlings rolled the jump when he won. You don't really expect a back marker to send it and jump on you at the finish when race is over.

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