Charlotte MXGP Bench Racing - The Motos

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You Euro fuck wads sure get definsive when your superior riders get their ass handed to them...
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Jimmy_Sloan wrote:
America proving once again why they are the BEST. I see an MXoN win coming soon,
St Ann More wrote:
4 MXdN defeats in a row, 1 moto win in 12. I wouldn't bank on a win at Maggiora! Nonetheless Tomac, Webb and Forkner represented and...
4 MXdN defeats in a row, 1 moto win in 12. I wouldn't bank on a win at Maggiora!

Nonetheless Tomac, Webb and Forkner represented and showed the GP boys the fast way around today so hats off to them!
Stefan82 wrote:
The first American to win a moto on a sand track like Lommel has yet to be born. Cairoli won both motos in 12 and Herlings...
The first American to win a moto on a sand track like Lommel has yet to be born.

Cairoli won both motos in 12 and Herlings the other one while lapping Baggett and Barcia.
Barcia had a mechanical failure in that moto. He took a 3rd in the other moto.
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Stefan82 9/3/2016 7:18pm
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Who's racing at Glen Helen?

I heard Martin on the Honda 450? Maybe Savatgy? Who else?
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elsinore wrote:
You Euro fuck wads sure get definsive when your superior riders get their ass handed to them...
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elsinore wrote:
You Euro fuck wads sure get definsive when your superior riders get their ass handed to them...
Funny isn't it ?
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St Ann More wrote:
4 MXdN defeats in a row, 1 moto win in 12. I wouldn't bank on a win at Maggiora! Nonetheless Tomac, Webb and Forkner represented and...
4 MXdN defeats in a row, 1 moto win in 12. I wouldn't bank on a win at Maggiora!

Nonetheless Tomac, Webb and Forkner represented and showed the GP boys the fast way around today so hats off to them!
Stefan82 wrote:
The first American to win a moto on a sand track like Lommel has yet to be born. Cairoli won both motos in 12 and Herlings...
The first American to win a moto on a sand track like Lommel has yet to be born.

Cairoli won both motos in 12 and Herlings the other one while lapping Baggett and Barcia.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Barcia had a mechanical failure in that moto. He took a 3rd in the other moto.
2nd in the moto.
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Stefan82 wrote:
Who's racing at Glen Helen?

I heard Martin on the Honda 450? Maybe Savatgy? Who else?
JMART is on CRF250R for Glen Helen.
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Merica!!!!

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elsinore wrote:
You Euro fuck wads sure get definsive when your superior riders get their ass handed to them...
Yea today was a rough day for them.

Dude has been riding that Factory KTM for xxxx years got beat by a guy that started deep in the teens, and blames it on jet lag?

Going west is EASY. It's the going east that is hard.

When you are on an east coast schedule and are used to getting up at 0700 and head to Europe and have to get up at 0700 in Europe (which is 0100 or 0200 EST) that is a shock and that is jet lag.

Going from wherever this guy lives (GMT +1/2) to the east coast means he gets to sleep in a few more hours.

Of all the excuses that is the worst one...

But good try. Glen Helen will be good!

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Stefan82 wrote:
Exactly. Look at Villopoto struggling in MXGP. It's just hard to compare, I didn't even know about the American superior fuel and exhaust which probably makes...
Exactly. Look at Villopoto struggling in MXGP. It's just hard to compare, I didn't even know about the American superior fuel and exhaust which probably makes them about 2 seconds a lap faster. Now I can understand how they're able to keep in front.
Your avatar pic, I like it.
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Stefan82 wrote:
The first American to win a moto on a sand track like Lommel has yet to be born. Cairoli won both motos in 12 and Herlings...
The first American to win a moto on a sand track like Lommel has yet to be born.

Cairoli won both motos in 12 and Herlings the other one while lapping Baggett and Barcia.
Yep and the Rookie this year just beat JH84 the European proclaimed fastest man on the planet straight up in the rougher final Moto on a track type that Eurpoeans have been racing on for a few years now. Now that's impressive.
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Stefan82 wrote:
The first American to win a moto on a sand track like Lommel has yet to be born. Cairoli won both motos in 12 and Herlings...
The first American to win a moto on a sand track like Lommel has yet to be born.

Cairoli won both motos in 12 and Herlings the other one while lapping Baggett and Barcia.
That's kinda strange to say because at the last round of MXGP Thomas Covington won the first moto on a nasty sand track.......just sayin'
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Park Boys wrote:
Yep and the Rookie this year just beat JH84 the European proclaimed fastest man on the planet straight up in the rougher final Moto on a...
Yep and the Rookie this year just beat JH84 the European proclaimed fastest man on the planet straight up in the rougher final Moto on a track type that Eurpoeans have been racing on for a few years now. Now that's impressive.
We'll see at Glen Helen, hopefully it's a normal 1pm and 4pm start.
WoodsRacer 9/3/2016 7:37pm
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What's all this fuel gate bullshit about? Different octane, oxygenated, of afr changes?
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You are all getting so pathetic with this back and forth crap, feels like a damn Jr Highschool up in here.
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Stefan82 wrote:
The first American to win a moto on a sand track like Lommel has yet to be born. Cairoli won both motos in 12 and Herlings...
The first American to win a moto on a sand track like Lommel has yet to be born.

Cairoli won both motos in 12 and Herlings the other one while lapping Baggett and Barcia.
shortcourse wrote:
That's kinda strange to say because at the last round of MXGP Thomas Covington won the first moto on a nasty sand track.......just sayin'
It was a mud track.
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Stefan82 wrote:
Exactly. Look at Villopoto struggling in MXGP. It's just hard to compare, I didn't even know about the American superior fuel and exhaust which probably makes...
Exactly. Look at Villopoto struggling in MXGP. It's just hard to compare, I didn't even know about the American superior fuel and exhaust which probably makes them about 2 seconds a lap faster. Now I can understand how they're able to keep in front.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Herlings/Gajser on "WORKS" bikes compared to Tomac/Barcia/Webb/Forkner on their "production based" bikes?

I'd say thats a tad of an advantage, no?
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Good racing tonight! Nice to finally see Herlings race. No doubt he is a great rider, but it's clear he has no competition in MX2. If he raced the US nationals he might win, or he might be third. But he'd at least have competition. In the 450s, I don't see the top two positions changing in the Nationals if TG and others were to race. But the racing would be better.

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PRM31 wrote:
Good racing tonight! Nice to finally see Herlings race. No doubt he is a great rider, but it's clear he has no competition in MX2. If...
Good racing tonight! Nice to finally see Herlings race. No doubt he is a great rider, but it's clear he has no competition in MX2. If he raced the US nationals he might win, or he might be third. But he'd at least have competition. In the 450s, I don't see the top two positions changing in the Nationals if TG and others were to race. But the racing would be better.
I don't know about that. Did you see how big he is? He is going to be an instant contender on the 450. The only question I have is can he keep the 450 on two wheels?
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Yep and the Rookie this year just beat JH84 the European proclaimed fastest man on the planet straight up in the rougher final Moto on a...
Yep and the Rookie this year just beat JH84 the European proclaimed fastest man on the planet straight up in the rougher final Moto on a track type that Eurpoeans have been racing on for a few years now. Now that's impressive.
Stefan82 wrote:
We'll see at Glen Helen, hopefully it's a normal 1pm and 4pm start.
It would be awfully bad to lose to the Rookie again even for a Moto
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steve_97060 wrote:
damn Americans and their special super fuel, and comfortable time zones, home field track, and every other homer advantage...
Stefan82 wrote:
Exactly. Look at Villopoto struggling in MXGP. It's just hard to compare, I didn't even know about the American superior fuel and exhaust which probably makes...
Exactly. Look at Villopoto struggling in MXGP. It's just hard to compare, I didn't even know about the American superior fuel and exhaust which probably makes them about 2 seconds a lap faster. Now I can understand how they're able to keep in front.
Everyone was on U.S. spec fuel..
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Stefan82 wrote:
The first American to win a moto on a sand track like Lommel has yet to be born. Cairoli won both motos in 12 and Herlings...
The first American to win a moto on a sand track like Lommel has yet to be born.

Cairoli won both motos in 12 and Herlings the other one while lapping Baggett and Barcia.
shortcourse wrote:
That's kinda strange to say because at the last round of MXGP Thomas Covington won the first moto on a nasty sand track.......just sayin'
Stefan82 wrote:
It was a mud track.
Your guys got their numbers blown off their plates on a totally neutral track,
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Stefan82 wrote:
The first American to win a moto on a sand track like Lommel has yet to be born. Cairoli won both motos in 12 and Herlings...
The first American to win a moto on a sand track like Lommel has yet to be born.

Cairoli won both motos in 12 and Herlings the other one while lapping Baggett and Barcia.
shortcourse wrote:
That's kinda strange to say because at the last round of MXGP Thomas Covington won the first moto on a nasty sand track.......just sayin'
Stefan82 wrote:
It was a mud track.
Really...It was held in the NLD's on a sand track and if that was mud it sure don't stick to the riders or bikes.

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PRM31 wrote:
Good racing tonight! Nice to finally see Herlings race. No doubt he is a great rider, but it's clear he has no competition in MX2. If...
Good racing tonight! Nice to finally see Herlings race. No doubt he is a great rider, but it's clear he has no competition in MX2. If he raced the US nationals he might win, or he might be third. But he'd at least have competition. In the 450s, I don't see the top two positions changing in the Nationals if TG and others were to race. But the racing would be better.
Remember TG is real young, the sky is the limit for him
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PRM31 wrote:
Good racing tonight! Nice to finally see Herlings race. No doubt he is a great rider, but it's clear he has no competition in MX2. If...
Good racing tonight! Nice to finally see Herlings race. No doubt he is a great rider, but it's clear he has no competition in MX2. If he raced the US nationals he might win, or he might be third. But he'd at least have competition. In the 450s, I don't see the top two positions changing in the Nationals if TG and others were to race. But the racing would be better.
Harrison finishing 7th overall on a neutral track vs mostly gp guys is telling how these guys stack up. Imagine if we had a full compliment of AMA guys there. Guys such as the Martin bros, Savatgy, Hampshire, Nelson, etc. Guys who are typically fighting for podiums in the GP's would have finished 15th or worse. The MX1 class is a bit of a different story. Plenty of fast guys who can compete with all AMA guys except Tomac, Roczen and Dungey.
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PRM31 wrote:
Good racing tonight! Nice to finally see Herlings race. No doubt he is a great rider, but it's clear he has no competition in MX2. If...
Good racing tonight! Nice to finally see Herlings race. No doubt he is a great rider, but it's clear he has no competition in MX2. If he raced the US nationals he might win, or he might be third. But he'd at least have competition. In the 450s, I don't see the top two positions changing in the Nationals if TG and others were to race. But the racing would be better.
Park Boys wrote:
Remember TG is real young, the sky is the limit for him
No doubt, he is a great rider and will get better. But what I saw tonight, one night, one track, was that the top two positions in the Nats would not be different if he raced here. In a year or two, who knows! But it would be great to add him to the competition.

Herlings might win here now, it would at least be great racing.
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MXR wrote:
Well this weekend the GP riders got schooled .

Next week they will get embarrassed .
TeamGreen wrote:
I'm not so sure about that.

GH is kinda Euro.

I'm jus' sayin'....
Yes , but the pace will be quicker here .
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Can someone tell me what happened to Barcia in the second moto? Thank you.
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Park Boys wrote:
Yep and the Rookie this year just beat JH84 the European proclaimed fastest man on the planet straight up in the rougher final Moto on a...
Yep and the Rookie this year just beat JH84 the European proclaimed fastest man on the planet straight up in the rougher final Moto on a track type that Eurpoeans have been racing on for a few years now. Now that's impressive.
Stefan82 wrote:
We'll see at Glen Helen, hopefully it's a normal 1pm and 4pm start.
Who cares about the damn start time.

Stop making excuses man.
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1911 wrote:
Can someone tell me what happened to Barcia in the second moto? Thank you.
Not sure, but I was walking by the JGR pit just in time to see him throw his helmet at the ground in anger while venting to his mechanic about whatever the issue was.

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