What Are Your Biggest "Pains" or annoyances In MX?

sandman768
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8/23/2016 5:42pm
JayBraap19 wrote:
Biggest current annoyance is how "cliquey" the sport has become. Over the span of my life I have lost all my core moto friends that I...
Biggest current annoyance is how "cliquey" the sport has become.

Over the span of my life I have lost all my core moto friends that I grew up racing with because of the fact that I had to go get a real job while their parents continued to support them, eventually causing us to lose touch.

I often feel very out of place when I show up to practice due to the fact that everyone has their tight groups, and approaching most of them to strike up conversations often just ends up with an awkward silence falling over everyone , like they're "too cool" to talk to you.

It makes me sad that there is so much ego in our sport now days. It's like everyone has a chip on their shoulder.

Edit: This is mostly true for my age demographic and younger (15-26). The older guys at the track are always welcoming and love to chat.
I ride a lot tracks myself, I always make it a point to go talk to someone who I see is by themselves. I"m 49 years old, way past the clique stage,if your at the track, we have a common bond.
8/23/2016 6:20pm
When MX magazines began treating the opinions on Vital as the opinions of all MX fans.
Only the core ones bro!
8/23/2016 6:32pm
When MX magazines began treating the opinions on Vital as the opinions of all MX fans.
Kx125rider wrote:
Only the core ones bro!
Check it out. Whenever the mags talk about what fans are thinking, it is just whatever has been posted on Vital.
8/23/2016 6:34pm
i read on here that herlings is the fastest rider of all time

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8/23/2016 6:35pm
Moto810 wrote:
Nice thread! 1) track safety or lack of it (poor flagging, blind jumps, equipment to close to track or on track) 2) poor track grooming or...
Nice thread!

1) track safety or lack of it (poor flagging, blind jumps, equipment to close to track or on track)

2) poor track grooming or watering

3) dirty restrooms (hard to get your girlfriend or wife to come to track because of this)

4) younger riders being allowed to ride in the vet practice

5) to many classes on a race day

6) poor communications at the track for practice lineup and race order

86honda wrote:
You must not be volunteering at your local track. I clean the toilets I help with the track and empty the trach after the races. The...
You must not be volunteering at your local track. I clean the toilets I help with the track and empty the trach after the races. The owner is encouraged to keep the track open because I help
What? Are you on drugs? Your comment makes no sense and my comment was not directed at you.
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8/23/2016 6:38pm
In Germany we have these idiots [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/08/22/148119/s1200_Grenzgaenger_Grenzgaenger.jpg[/img]
In Germany we have these idiots

Why? I think what querly is doing is really good for the sport. The sole reason why I bought a bike is because of them, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. In a way, he's contributing to the sport and bringing more money to the manufacturers.
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8/23/2016 6:41pm
When you time the A guys and the C riders and there are guys in the C class doing the same lap times as A riders.
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8/23/2016 8:25pm
I hate when people talk crap about how much they're going to race and how much fun they're going to have this coming season. Petition for far away tracks to be on the schedule...then never show or only make 1 race if any for the season.
I've raced with broken ribs, damaged shoulder, stitches in my hands, concussions, no sleep, on bikes that sometimes are way over due for freshening, and don't forget a upset wife,,,then some whiners complain my local track is no good too sandy,, and it is dropped from schedule for a track far away in another state they'll never race anyhow... cause they have a baby shower to attend or they're grass needed cut...

I also hate guys that always complain more laps, more laps when it's 95* and 100% humidity. Most of the ones doing the complaining for more laps- stick there chest out in riders meeting like they're 20 and 'real men' when we are 50+... then they get lapped 1st moto....and concede to less laps 2nd moto so we can leave before dark thirty..
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8/23/2016 10:09pm
Two stroke supremacists.

If you ride you are cool with me, no matter the brand or the type of bike. I get it you love two strokes and 4 strokes are evil in your eyes, but get off the soap box. It's getting really old especially on here. Nearly every thread I read on a new bike ends up getting high jacked by someone bashing the oem's for not producing two strokes. It has gotten to the point that I rarely read this forum anymore because that seems to be all anyone talks about. The moto world is ripe with innovation, whether it be fuel injection, yamaha's backward engine, triple air chamber forks, programmable ignitions, or now honda's down draft intake no matter the advance someone inevitably bitches that they want antiquated technology which had essentially reached its limit save for direct injection. Instead of bitching just be happy that we continue to get better bikes. the oem's could just as easily say screw it: the cost exceeds value, Much like what is happening in Europe with the disappearance of 600cc sport bikes.. End of rant
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8/23/2016 10:39pm
Air horns. Keep that foreigner crap overseas. In America, we scream YEEEAAH!!!!
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8/24/2016 1:36am
Flip109 wrote:
Flats
Changing tires
Flats
Actually anythjng that requires taking the back tire off of the rim. Did I mention flats? Angry Pinch
The Rock wrote:
TUbliss. Once you go TUbliss you don't go back especially if you change tires frequently. Pre TUbliss I would even go to the bother of turning...
TUbliss. Once you go TUbliss you don't go back especially if you change tires frequently.

Pre TUbliss I would even go to the bother of turning a tire around to get to the sharp side to extend tire life. I had two sets of wheels for my CR500 hard pack and sand so I didn't have to change tires to race at Sunrise up in Adelanto. I was a Carlsbad regular plus raced at Ascot. Until I bought a used front wheel I kept a hard pack MX 22 (?) on the spare wheel I bought new and only used it for the motos af Ascot. Marine layer would come in and that place was like riding on glass.

The TUbliss stays on rim so you only remove and install the tire.

Tire changing tips

Don't be in a hurry. Get a small bowl to put small parts in.

Whenever possible let the sun get the tire good and hot to make it easier to flex.

Use a lubricant for the bead and baby powder for the tube

Before putting the last sidewalk of the tire inside the rim inflate the tube slightly then remove valve stem to deflate or deflate as much as possible. Goal is to eliminate chance of pinching the tube by doing this pre inflation ritual.

Watch the Dunlop guys at a race

Do a search on Jay Clark tire changing tips. Jay aside from being the project bike King is a master tire changer. Not a bad bloke either.

Thanks for the tips! Bought the msr tire changing stand while back. Best decision ever lol. Changed my moto life. Cool
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8/24/2016 2:14am Edited Date/Time 8/24/2016 2:15am
Australian dirt bike magazines not including 250 2 strokes in their "250" MX Shootouts. Angry

Last time I checked you could race one all the way up to the Pro MX2 Nationals.
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8/24/2016 4:22am
Plugga wrote:
Australian dirt bike magazines not including 250 2 strokes in their "250" MX Shootouts. :angry: Last time I checked you could race one all the way...
Australian dirt bike magazines not including 250 2 strokes in their "250" MX Shootouts. Angry

Last time I checked you could race one all the way up to the Pro MX2 Nationals.
Don't say that! Honda might read it and have you thrown in a Japanese prison Pinch
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8/24/2016 4:30am Edited Date/Time 8/24/2016 4:32am
People who think an announcers job is to make sure you don't miss your moto.

"... ** squak ** .... 14th call for 250B ... now hurry up and buckle you right boot Georgie ..... **squak** "

Give me a break .....
8/24/2016 5:51am
Can't believe we got this deep without bringing up thieves
TM
8/24/2016 6:00am
JayBraap19 wrote:
It's not so much complaining about the sport, but more about looking for common issues or possibly trending problems within the community that can be improved...
It's not so much complaining about the sport, but more about looking for common issues or possibly trending problems within the community that can be improved.

We all know you can find ten billion things to complain about, but looking for legitimate issues to solve is something I don't see a whole lot of.
Moto810 wrote:
Jaybraap is correct it is not so much complaining as it is looking for improvements. The idea that its motocross so it should just stay the...
Jaybraap is correct it is not so much complaining as it is looking for improvements. The idea that its motocross so it should just stay the same and never fix problems is crazy. Wanting the sport you love to improve is not a crime.
crusher773 wrote:
We are all still waiting on you to open a track and show everyone how it can be done so easily.
Did I miss an edit or something? Isn't that how things get better? Discuss what folks would like changed
and find solutions of how to change? A lot of people may not know how to effect change, but also those that do
may not know "what" to change without this type of discussion.
So why the Debbie Downer?
TM
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8/24/2016 7:44am
Let's clarify "Pro Practicer" as I clearly fit the mold for one of the types...

Type A (me) I practice/ride every weekend weather permitting and don't "race others" on practice days. If I come up on a little kid I slow down, never know where they are going and if I happen to get in a hairy situation I back it down. I ride to be able to ride another day but I do make sure to put in 4 to 6 good motos even if it entails slowing down for a turn or jump every lap or two. I hardly if ever "race" any more for many of the reasons listed in the above posts.

Type B - Guys that treat practice day as if they are leading the Monster Cup no matter who else is on the track or who they run up on or end up on side of.

Things that annoy me:

Type B guys that keep tabs on "who" they passed on practice day...and totally ignore the circumstance

and the delusional guys that "use to be Pro or ride A or race with XXXX" or the guys that "used to be sponsored or get bikes from the dealership" and they barely can get through the pits to the track
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8/24/2016 7:58am
I want to race MX, but HATE, HATE, HATE sitting at the track all damn day. I work all week, have a house to take care of, and a wife to try and make happy. Cut the damn classes! Split the day or have a separate track for minis. Less classes!!!!
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8/24/2016 7:58am
Just the other day at a local track ride day "wheelie in the pits" guy was doing his thing and lost it and ran his bike into the side of another guys newer F150.

Stupidity. That's annoying.
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8/24/2016 8:33am
Moto810 wrote:
Jaybraap is correct it is not so much complaining as it is looking for improvements. The idea that its motocross so it should just stay the...
Jaybraap is correct it is not so much complaining as it is looking for improvements. The idea that its motocross so it should just stay the same and never fix problems is crazy. Wanting the sport you love to improve is not a crime.
crusher773 wrote:
We are all still waiting on you to open a track and show everyone how it can be done so easily.
ToolMaker wrote:
Did I miss an edit or something? Isn't that how things get better? Discuss what folks would like changed and find solutions of how to change...
Did I miss an edit or something? Isn't that how things get better? Discuss what folks would like changed
and find solutions of how to change? A lot of people may not know how to effect change, but also those that do
may not know "what" to change without this type of discussion.
So why the Debbie Downer?
TM
No you did not miss an edit. He just follows me around from thread to thread making comments because I feel tracks can improve as any business can. Change is part of any culture or business but some people do not like change. To me even small improvements can mean a positive change in rider turnout.
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8/24/2016 8:34am
Number one for me would be the crazy mini dads. When they sneak up to the start early because there kid got a bad gate pick. Or when they block the track when there kid is tipped over so no one will pass.

Two would be that the track starts off perfectly groomed and watered. But then they don't water again untill the track is hard packed and so dusty you can't see anything. It's a completely wasted effort by then. Water doesn't soak in to concrete.
8/24/2016 8:58am
Moto810 wrote:
No you did not miss an edit. He just follows me around from thread to thread making comments because I feel tracks can improve as any...
No you did not miss an edit. He just follows me around from thread to thread making comments because I feel tracks can improve as any business can. Change is part of any culture or business but some people do not like change. To me even small improvements can mean a positive change in rider turnout.
Oh, longer history than what was there.
TM
8/24/2016 10:31am
No one listens to Rock music anymore.. back in my day everyone cranked up Motley Crue...Ozzy...Metallica...Pink Floyd...ect...
JayBraap19 wrote:
I'm hoping the new Metallica album provides some good pre-moto tunes!
Me too...it's not just that...I crank up all the good Rock music...loud...mostly to drown out all the hip hop booty music being cranked up...but I crank up the metal even when no one else is playing music..
Its just at the track everywhere I go I'm hearing this no talent..computer generated..fake ass sounding hip hop.. it seriously de-motivates me..
Everybody used to play all the good metal music...Walk over hear...someone's got Skid Row cranked up...This dude overt there was jamming on Ozzy...Walk down by the start gate and there were fine chicks rocking Motley Crue.. Man I was super motivated to race hard...guess I'm jus getting old..
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8/24/2016 11:13am Edited Date/Time 8/24/2016 11:15am
People that don't tie/stake down there ezups. I have had more than one come flying into my pits and or the side of my vehicle.

Many of the above also just didn't want to be redundant.
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8/24/2016 11:34am
I hate the minis and slower quads that hit rev limiter on the lip of a jump.
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8/24/2016 12:27pm Edited Date/Time 8/24/2016 12:28pm
All the kids constantly cutting the track or stopping to talk to their wanna be trainer or mini dad then shooting back out in traffic to do a few corners then stop again most of the time sending up a cloud of dust as they hit the infield.
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8/24/2016 1:07pm
JayBraap19 wrote:
Biggest current annoyance is how "cliquey" the sport has become. Over the span of my life I have lost all my core moto friends that I...
Biggest current annoyance is how "cliquey" the sport has become.

Over the span of my life I have lost all my core moto friends that I grew up racing with because of the fact that I had to go get a real job while their parents continued to support them, eventually causing us to lose touch.

I often feel very out of place when I show up to practice due to the fact that everyone has their tight groups, and approaching most of them to strike up conversations often just ends up with an awkward silence falling over everyone , like they're "too cool" to talk to you.

It makes me sad that there is so much ego in our sport now days. It's like everyone has a chip on their shoulder.

Edit: This is mostly true for my age demographic and younger (15-26). The older guys at the track are always welcoming and love to chat.
This is so true, it's like highschool again but worse, what ever happened to the family atmosphere we all used to know? Not to mention the hostility
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8/24/2016 2:07pm
crusher773 wrote:
We are all still waiting on you to open a track and show everyone how it can be done so easily.
ToolMaker wrote:
Did I miss an edit or something? Isn't that how things get better? Discuss what folks would like changed and find solutions of how to change...
Did I miss an edit or something? Isn't that how things get better? Discuss what folks would like changed
and find solutions of how to change? A lot of people may not know how to effect change, but also those that do
may not know "what" to change without this type of discussion.
So why the Debbie Downer?
TM
Moto810 wrote:
No you did not miss an edit. He just follows me around from thread to thread making comments because I feel tracks can improve as any...
No you did not miss an edit. He just follows me around from thread to thread making comments because I feel tracks can improve as any business can. Change is part of any culture or business but some people do not like change. To me even small improvements can mean a positive change in rider turnout.
Nobody is saying tracks can't improve. I however extremely dislike your solution to fixing the problems is that track owners don't work hard enough or put in enough hours. Oh yeah they also don't spend enough money. Like I said it's pretty easy to look in from the outside and say spend spend spend if you have it. Most of these owners don't have it but still spend every dime they can anyway. Right now my #1 pain in MX is Moto810. I think he is a complete jackass who thinks he is an expert at running tracks but has never done it. His solution is just to pay someone to do everything for him.
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8/24/2016 2:24pm
Fanboys.


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8/24/2016 4:18pm
Moto810 like others pay to race and ride. Who else should we expect to take care of the facility other than the track operator?

I don't get the same read that you do from Moto810 and I for sure don't know what he thinks. You don't either.

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