When are the bikes going to get faster?

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Detroit Dick 7/30/2016 8:27pm
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Honda is testing out a new model that outta do the trick

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The988 7/30/2016 10:15pm
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When you can ride a fuel injected 450 to its max potential then come talk about bikes not being fast enough.
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51xc 7/31/2016 2:30am
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how about a downhill whoops section? that should be faster and break at least twice as much bones as a standard one.
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The988 wrote:
When you can ride a fuel injected 450 to its max potential then come talk about bikes not being fast enough.
X2, meaning all stock also. 95℅ of vital can't.
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The988 wrote:
When you can ride a fuel injected 450 to its max potential then come talk about bikes not being fast enough.
mxb2 wrote:
X2, meaning all stock also. 95℅ of vital can't.
You guys missed a detail. It has been established that OP was being sarcastic.
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Skidaddle 7/31/2016 2:26pm
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Easier and cheaper to put people on 500 2 strokes.
Pastrana went 93 MPH through the whoops.

He went so fast they were dirt clods not whoops.
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The988 wrote:
When you can ride a fuel injected 450 to its max potential then come talk about bikes not being fast enough.
mxb2 wrote:
X2, meaning all stock also. 95℅ of vital can't.
kzizok wrote:
You guys missed a detail. It has been established that OP was being sarcastic.
Maybe we were also.
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The start straight is usually long enough to benefit from more power. They could have 2 settings. A normal setting and 100 HP setting for the start complete with retractable wheelie bar.
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kzizok 7/31/2016 6:09pm
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In that case, touché the touché!
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Turbojez 8/3/2016 2:22am
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willie838 wrote:
i'm thinking we need some turbos.

lets hear these bitches spool up.


What he said + some nitrous, in 700cc 2-stroke zabel engines.
Pussification of our beloved sport with slow ass 450's needs to end.
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KMC440 8/3/2016 3:20am
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Why the hell are we stuck with 6 speeds ?

Shirley by now we should have 10 or 16 !
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We'll just strap a Ducati engine into a frame. 205hp should almost be enough.
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Kx125rider wrote:
I would really love,even just one sx race a year, to see a track designed by the riders.
Technically Daytona is designed by Ricky and he's kind of a rider?
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Sarcasm aside, the top class should be open. Let the teams and riders decide what works best for them.

So yes, 2 stroke, electric, squirrels in a cage, rubber band or whatever.
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Kx125rider wrote:
I would really love,even just one sx race a year, to see a track designed by the riders.
nascarnate326 wrote:
Technically Daytona is designed by Ricky and he's kind of a rider?
And this years daytona track was terribly 1 lined
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Steve125 8/3/2016 8:35am
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For the young'ns
There was a time when the premier racers in the world raced 500cc 2 strokes. Everything else was a step down in prestige..
I'm convinced that someday the 450cc 4 strokes will be the next big old (beastly) dinosaurs of Moto. They won't sell many of them because they'll be $13 grand, and the smaller bikes will be the go to bike for most racers.
Then we'll see the posts on Vital, bragging about the good old days when real men rode 450s.


Carlton_Fartman 8/3/2016 8:36am
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The starts are so boring, they could really benefit from a big ol' quad 2/3 of the way down the straight.

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Alex814 8/3/2016 10:09am
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I remember when Kenny wasn't jumping the uphill triple at Millville last year. These guys obviously need a LOT more.
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colintrax wrote:
We need more of this. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/07/30/145173/s1200_2016_07_30_16_00_46_452314194.jpg[/img]
We need more of this.

Uncle_Eddie wrote:
"So fresh n so clean clean"
Andre 5000
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*3000
Right, but I gave him the extra 2000 for more speed, power and most of all freshness!!
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racer495a 8/3/2016 10:11pm
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Wow ride a modern 450 on a Mx track bro, waaay too much
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Just make


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kzizok 8/3/2016 11:25pm
8/3/2016 11:25pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2016 11:33pm
It appears people are still missing the sarcasm.
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Bearuno 8/3/2016 11:46pm
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TripleFive wrote:
We're at the point where we're all used to the mundane speed of modern four-strokes. I think we can all agree that they aren't fast enough...
We're at the point where we're all used to the mundane speed of modern four-strokes. I think we can all agree that they aren't fast enough.

Was it Millville where the riders were nearly reaching the pedestrian speed of 60mph? That's not nearly fast enough; almost put me to sleep. Why not 70+ mph??

Quad +1 in Supercross; why not quad +2? If you don't like Jet Moto-style rocket ships jumping 80+ feet straight out of a corner, then I don't like you.

What this sport really needs is more danger to make it appealing. Higher speeds seems like a no-brainer.

What about making 550cc direct-injected four-strokes, and having the 450 class usurp the 250s? There's really no excuse for why the premier riders in the world aren't riding bikes that are pushing 90+ hp. We've thrown caution to the wind long ago, it's time to really ratchet-up the depravity.
You seem to be advocating , still, the "pussification of Motocross", TripleFive.

550cc - pathetic. Here's what should be used:



A 1000cc Single Cylinder 4t

Or, perhaps a 1000cc 2t twin, such as the EML Jumbo:



Of course, one could go the 'budget' route and use something as wimpy as a Zabel ZM 700cc 2t single, but, until they 'up' it to 1000cc, well, it remains as just an entry level engine, and, well, we can't have that, can we?Evil Whistling
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Fearo 8/4/2016 1:08am
8/4/2016 1:08am Edited Date/Time 8/4/2016 1:39am
The fact that people did not detect the sarcasm after reading even half of the first line...oh my..

Much less reading through the entire OP and posting a serious reply...

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Bearuno 8/4/2016 2:05am
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That someone hasn't 'invented' a Sarcasm font, is puzzling to me.

Might I suggest letters 'dripping'.

There's a job for a bloke like Crush - he's a technoweeny, isn't he? I'll take 33.3% off the top, Crush, if you use anything remotely 'dripping' .....

Of course, my suggestions, as to engine size to make the sport more manly, are absolutely serious.
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Fearo 8/4/2016 5:42am
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The only thing more depressing than people that can't detect your sarcasm is when someone posts something so ridiculous you immediately assume he's being sarcastic, only to find out he's not.

Happens all the time unfortunately.

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