Dunlop MX31, MX32, M3S garbage!

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bvm111 wrote:
Another vote for Bridgstsone X30s! Both front amd rear hook up well amd have lasted.... Not as long as the 403/404 but what really does?
Exactly this ^^^ !!
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+ 1 for the Bridgestones, tried a mx52 once, was awesome for like 2 rides... then crap

the M404/204 was the best,lasted me all year! and the traction is still good when they are worn. couldnt get that anymore so got the Battlecross
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mx32 are great for tracks like mtn view or Washougal. hard clay type dirt. everywhere else they fall apart. we run mx52 most of the tracks up here in the northwest. I also really like the 403 bridgestone. used the michilins a lot of minis with good luck but haven't tried them on big bikes
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I have to admit that I only tear the side knobs off when I run the M3S Dunlop on my RMZ450 but never on my Honda CR500; I think a big 4-stroke loads the front-end with more load & weight than a 2-stroke. Beside that fact, no other brand of soft terrain tears off side knobs on my 450 !

If the the MX31/MX32/M3s is to only be used in soft sand, it should have the MX11 code, it obviously can't handle a bit of firm loam.

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panic_rev_214 7/3/2016 4:32pm
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Theyve always worked fine for me. Dont like the 52 front though, if it gets a little muddy or wet, it slides out pretty easily.
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MX52 front has a narrow range where it works well, although the rear is better. Bottom line, Dunlop is over rated.
powertrip456 7/3/2016 5:06pm
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I've had the same issue with the 32's. Blowing knobs off front and rear. My new Yam 250F came with Bridgestone's, not even sure which model but they were God-awful. I couldn't count on the front anywhere for anything in any terrain and I couldn't rip those tires off fast enough. I just won a set of Starcross 5's a month or so ago, and I opted for the Soft. I put them on last week and although I've only put two rides on them I have to say I haven't ripped a knob off yet (on a track that is half sand and half concrete-hard clay) and have been very pumped on the traction. I can't wait to ride a more appropriate track for them. Just my two cents. I was always a Dunlop only guy, but I'm glad I've had my eyes opened.
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Johnny89superbike wrote:
I have to admit that I only tear the side knobs off when I run the M3S Dunlop on my RMZ450 but never on my Honda...
I have to admit that I only tear the side knobs off when I run the M3S Dunlop on my RMZ450 but never on my Honda CR500; I think a big 4-stroke loads the front-end with more load & weight than a 2-stroke. Beside that fact, no other brand of soft terrain tears off side knobs on my 450 !

If the the MX31/MX32/M3s is to only be used in soft sand, it should have the MX11 code, it obviously can't handle a bit of firm loam.

Idk, I've even torn the side knobbies off my MX52 on my YZ125. I think the Dunlops are just really soft, that is why the hook up well.

That being said, I really like the Bridgestone M403/404s. The Dunlops seem to hook up better, but dont last nearly as long...
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Tearing side knobbies off is due to under inflation of the tire and/or wrong terrain.

I used to rip side knobbies off my Dunlop tires all the time...guy at Rocky Mountain atv said to run at least 14 psi...I did that and two things happened: 1) I stopped tearing the knobbies off 2) The tire worked way better.

Apparently they are designed to be ran at that PSI...anything less than that and the performance/durability goes away.
GeorgiePorgie 7/3/2016 6:31pm
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Johnny89superbike wrote:
I've used all the Dunlop fronts, if there is one firm piece of ground on the track the side knobs get torn off, it's just not-on...
I've used all the Dunlop fronts, if there is one firm piece of ground on the track the side knobs get torn off, it's just not-on, I've had it, you pay good money for an expected quality product and this happens in your first ride. I cry putting one-ride old tires in the bin :-(

I don't want to hear crap about 'you pay the price for premium traction' they aren't any better than other brands soft terrain tyres.

If you aren't tearing off your MX32 knobs, you just aint riding fast enough through the corners. The pro's get their 'special' tires. Bring back the old American made K139 :-(

Because Dunlop have laid this crap on me, I'll never use any Dunlop again!

Rant over, thankyou.
This. It's all I use. Love them.

Dunlops are fantastic if you can change them every 3-5 rides.
Johnny89superbike 7/3/2016 6:35pm
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Tearing side knobbies off is due to under inflation of the tire and/or wrong terrain. I used to rip side knobbies off my Dunlop tires all...
Tearing side knobbies off is due to under inflation of the tire and/or wrong terrain.

I used to rip side knobbies off my Dunlop tires all the time...guy at Rocky Mountain atv said to run at least 14 psi...I did that and two things happened: 1) I stopped tearing the knobbies off 2) The tire worked way better.

Apparently they are designed to be ran at that PSI...anything less than that and the performance/durability goes away.
Well I've tried 12, 13 & 14 psi, same thing each time.

Common sense tells us, the more pressure used will lessen tire distortion, with a resulting smaller footprint and hence less knobs in contact with the ground. With the same loads going through less knobs ..... they get torn off.

I have never used them on hard-pack, as I said before "if the M3S front should be used ONLY in sand, they should have the MX11 code"; If Dunlop have a tire in their range with the model code '11' for sand; one would expect a '31' (32 or 3S) to hold together in loam.

Personally I find the MX11 front is a poorly designed mud tire (the small 'x' shape knob cause mud to be held in the tread and the knobs aren't large enough to have any resistance in sand. The M3S front should be their 'sand only' tire; maybe call it a MX11S?
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Titan1 wrote:
Tearing side knobbies off is due to under inflation of the tire and/or wrong terrain. I used to rip side knobbies off my Dunlop tires all...
Tearing side knobbies off is due to under inflation of the tire and/or wrong terrain.

I used to rip side knobbies off my Dunlop tires all the time...guy at Rocky Mountain atv said to run at least 14 psi...I did that and two things happened: 1) I stopped tearing the knobbies off 2) The tire worked way better.

Apparently they are designed to be ran at that PSI...anything less than that and the performance/durability goes away.
Johnny89superbike wrote:
Well I've tried 12, 13 & 14 psi, same thing each time. Common sense tells us, the more pressure used will lessen tire distortion, with a...
Well I've tried 12, 13 & 14 psi, same thing each time.

Common sense tells us, the more pressure used will lessen tire distortion, with a resulting smaller footprint and hence less knobs in contact with the ground. With the same loads going through less knobs ..... they get torn off.

I have never used them on hard-pack, as I said before "if the M3S front should be used ONLY in sand, they should have the MX11 code"; If Dunlop have a tire in their range with the model code '11' for sand; one would expect a '31' (32 or 3S) to hold together in loam.

Personally I find the MX11 front is a poorly designed mud tire (the small 'x' shape knob cause mud to be held in the tread and the knobs aren't large enough to have any resistance in sand. The M3S front should be their 'sand only' tire; maybe call it a MX11S?
Hmmm...worked for me, I'm riding off-road though...and run mx52's front and rear. Was about to switch because the knobbies kept ripping off and then tried more pressure and it worked great and I haven't had any issues since.
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Titan1 wrote:
Tearing side knobbies off is due to under inflation of the tire and/or wrong terrain. I used to rip side knobbies off my Dunlop tires all...
Tearing side knobbies off is due to under inflation of the tire and/or wrong terrain.

I used to rip side knobbies off my Dunlop tires all the time...guy at Rocky Mountain atv said to run at least 14 psi...I did that and two things happened: 1) I stopped tearing the knobbies off 2) The tire worked way better.

Apparently they are designed to be ran at that PSI...anything less than that and the performance/durability goes away.
Johnny89superbike wrote:
Well I've tried 12, 13 & 14 psi, same thing each time. Common sense tells us, the more pressure used will lessen tire distortion, with a...
Well I've tried 12, 13 & 14 psi, same thing each time.

Common sense tells us, the more pressure used will lessen tire distortion, with a resulting smaller footprint and hence less knobs in contact with the ground. With the same loads going through less knobs ..... they get torn off.

I have never used them on hard-pack, as I said before "if the M3S front should be used ONLY in sand, they should have the MX11 code"; If Dunlop have a tire in their range with the model code '11' for sand; one would expect a '31' (32 or 3S) to hold together in loam.

Personally I find the MX11 front is a poorly designed mud tire (the small 'x' shape knob cause mud to be held in the tread and the knobs aren't large enough to have any resistance in sand. The M3S front should be their 'sand only' tire; maybe call it a MX11S?
Titan1 wrote:
Hmmm...worked for me, I'm riding off-road though...and run mx52's front and rear. Was about to switch because the knobbies kept ripping off and then tried more...
Hmmm...worked for me, I'm riding off-road though...and run mx52's front and rear. Was about to switch because the knobbies kept ripping off and then tried more pressure and it worked great and I haven't had any issues since.
I'll try 14psi tomorrow

Been running 9-12psi depending on conditions

The 32 grips well, no arguing with you there...but the durability just seems aweful.
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I think you guys need to run at least 13.5 PSI in the MX32 (3S) front. I can normally get 9-10 hrs out of one just riding tracks that are pretty hard pack. (similar terrain to GP tracks) before the knobs on the edges starting giving out.

If i had the money i'd run MX32's everywhere (besides deep sand). They hook up better than 52's on hard pack.Ive tried a 52 front but it just doesn't want to grip.
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Johnny89superbike wrote:
I've used all the Dunlop fronts, if there is one firm piece of ground on the track the side knobs get torn off, it's just not-on...
I've used all the Dunlop fronts, if there is one firm piece of ground on the track the side knobs get torn off, it's just not-on, I've had it, you pay good money for an expected quality product and this happens in your first ride. I cry putting one-ride old tires in the bin :-(

I don't want to hear crap about 'you pay the price for premium traction' they aren't any better than other brands soft terrain tyres.

If you aren't tearing off your MX32 knobs, you just aint riding fast enough through the corners. The pro's get their 'special' tires. Bring back the old American made K139 :-(

Because Dunlop have laid this crap on me, I'll never use any Dunlop again!

Rant over, thankyou.
Totally agree, we race every weekend and I hate these tires, the only problem is I haven't found a replacement. We are trying Starcross 5s now and they don't chunk knobs but it also feels like ride on a flat on side bite, forward traction is good. I guess just don't turn.
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Michelin star cross 5, love the mediums but the softs are epic in the mud/sand
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Johnny89superbike wrote:
I've used all the Dunlop fronts, if there is one firm piece of ground on the track the side knobs get torn off, it's just not-on...
I've used all the Dunlop fronts, if there is one firm piece of ground on the track the side knobs get torn off, it's just not-on, I've had it, you pay good money for an expected quality product and this happens in your first ride. I cry putting one-ride old tires in the bin :-(

I don't want to hear crap about 'you pay the price for premium traction' they aren't any better than other brands soft terrain tyres.

If you aren't tearing off your MX32 knobs, you just aint riding fast enough through the corners. The pro's get their 'special' tires. Bring back the old American made K139 :-(

Because Dunlop have laid this crap on me, I'll never use any Dunlop again!

Rant over, thankyou.
How does those Extra X and Extra J tires perform, anyone tried these?

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I love the dunlops but even on soft southern California tracks the front is done in five rides. I'm on pirellies now.
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Johnny89superbike wrote:
I've used all the Dunlop fronts, if there is one firm piece of ground on the track the side knobs get torn off, it's just not-on...
I've used all the Dunlop fronts, if there is one firm piece of ground on the track the side knobs get torn off, it's just not-on, I've had it, you pay good money for an expected quality product and this happens in your first ride. I cry putting one-ride old tires in the bin :-(

I don't want to hear crap about 'you pay the price for premium traction' they aren't any better than other brands soft terrain tyres.

If you aren't tearing off your MX32 knobs, you just aint riding fast enough through the corners. The pro's get their 'special' tires. Bring back the old American made K139 :-(

Because Dunlop have laid this crap on me, I'll never use any Dunlop again!

Rant over, thankyou.
tempura wrote:
How does those Extra X and Extra J tires perform, anyone tried these?
I run Xtra-X in Baja, front & rear.

I've recently run an Xtra-X front on MX tracks at Pala, GH and Milestone: it lasts FOREVER and works like a typical Mid-Hard tire. I prefer the MX32 Mid-Soft. My favorite front is the New Pirelli Pro.
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Johnny89superbike wrote:
I've used all the Dunlop fronts, if there is one firm piece of ground on the track the side knobs get torn off, it's just not-on...
I've used all the Dunlop fronts, if there is one firm piece of ground on the track the side knobs get torn off, it's just not-on, I've had it, you pay good money for an expected quality product and this happens in your first ride. I cry putting one-ride old tires in the bin :-(

I don't want to hear crap about 'you pay the price for premium traction' they aren't any better than other brands soft terrain tyres.

If you aren't tearing off your MX32 knobs, you just aint riding fast enough through the corners. The pro's get their 'special' tires. Bring back the old American made K139 :-(

Because Dunlop have laid this crap on me, I'll never use any Dunlop again!

Rant over, thankyou.
tempura wrote:
How does those Extra X and Extra J tires perform, anyone tried these?
TeamGreen wrote:
I run Xtra-X in Baja, front & rear. I've recently run an Xtra-X front on MX tracks at Pala, GH and Milestone: it lasts FOREVER and...
I run Xtra-X in Baja, front & rear.

I've recently run an Xtra-X front on MX tracks at Pala, GH and Milestone: it lasts FOREVER and works like a typical Mid-Hard tire. I prefer the MX32 Mid-Soft. My favorite front is the New Pirelli Pro.
I didn't know they had a pro for the front now. Awesome
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Bridgestone M59 front tire.

Best thing going. Old tire but a great tire on any surface and lasts a long time.
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BobPA wrote:
I'll try 14psi tomorrow

Been running 9-12psi depending on conditions

The 32 grips well, no arguing with you there...but the durability just seems aweful.
That tire has a lot of sidewall and flex... try 12.5 to 13 PSI.
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fox1nz wrote:
Use a Pirelli MX32 front
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I have been using Pirelli tires for awhile. I haven't recieved a sing'e "bad" tire and they hold up great. My home track doesn't get ripped...
I have been using Pirelli tires for awhile. I haven't recieved a sing'e "bad" tire and they hold up great. My home track doesn't get ripped much during the week and gets blue grooved. I need tires that will last for a few weeks and Pirelli's do.
Same experience here, plus you can actually change the damn things yourself without having to use dynamite to get that stiff-assed sidewall over the rim.
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Matt Wozney wrote:
Give GoldenTyre a try. Hearing a lot of good things about them recently.
We are working with Mitas and people called us crazy... But those tires are really good! Now their are also MX2 Grand Prix guys who are starting to use them... One of them tested all tires "blindly" and choose Mitas without knowing.
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Johnny89superbike wrote:
Well I've tried 12, 13 & 14 psi, same thing each time. Common sense tells us, the more pressure used will lessen tire distortion, with a...
Well I've tried 12, 13 & 14 psi, same thing each time.

Common sense tells us, the more pressure used will lessen tire distortion, with a resulting smaller footprint and hence less knobs in contact with the ground. With the same loads going through less knobs ..... they get torn off.

I have never used them on hard-pack, as I said before "if the M3S front should be used ONLY in sand, they should have the MX11 code"; If Dunlop have a tire in their range with the model code '11' for sand; one would expect a '31' (32 or 3S) to hold together in loam.

Personally I find the MX11 front is a poorly designed mud tire (the small 'x' shape knob cause mud to be held in the tread and the knobs aren't large enough to have any resistance in sand. The M3S front should be their 'sand only' tire; maybe call it a MX11S?
Titan1 wrote:
Hmmm...worked for me, I'm riding off-road though...and run mx52's front and rear. Was about to switch because the knobbies kept ripping off and then tried more...
Hmmm...worked for me, I'm riding off-road though...and run mx52's front and rear. Was about to switch because the knobbies kept ripping off and then tried more pressure and it worked great and I haven't had any issues since.
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I'll try 14psi tomorrow

Been running 9-12psi depending on conditions

The 32 grips well, no arguing with you there...but the durability just seems aweful.
Seems counter-intuitive, but running 14lbs on the harder terrain with the mx32 works better and stops the side knobs from breaking off with both my son and myself.
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tempura wrote:
How does those Extra X and Extra J tires perform, anyone tried these?
I ran the Extra X front and rear on the 450 a couple years ago. The rear was really good in both traction and wear. I never tore a knob. The front was a little too hard so I really didn't trust it in hard flat turns. I bought a few more rears for the two stroke as well with MSMX32 fronts and that worked well.
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I've learned to trade some traction for longevity. New bike came with dunlop at 81's. Just a few hours in and i'm seeing more wear than I like. I've run maxxis in the past & they last forever. Been looking at sedona though. As far as weight goes I don't think it matters. Not like any of us are a Chad Reed who can tell the difference.

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