Herlings and Honda ?

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philG 6/7/2016 8:05am
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Honda will want to win with Gajser .. and beat Herlings to do it.
thrillbillie91 6/7/2016 8:06am
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Depends if he's off to the us next year alongside kenny?
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JackLHyde wrote:
OMG I hope he doesn't even consider the 350 anymore. He's riding the 450 fine. There's no need to put himself in a bad position due...
OMG I hope he doesn't even consider the 350 anymore. He's riding the 450 fine. There's no need to put himself in a bad position due to a bad start.
BobPA wrote:
Yeah, Tony has really improved going from the 350 to the 450....
I'd like to see Tony go back to the 350 in the position he's in at the minute, he may as well try it
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In the mx vice podcast Jeffrey stated he is going to a meeting in Austria this week and we should hear more about next years plans within 2 weeks. He also said he hasn't been in talks with any teams what so ever and that currently he is happy at KTM. Where do you guys make all this silly season gossip up from ?

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thrillbillie91 6/7/2016 8:17am
6/7/2016 8:17am
Its been known for a while the 450 camp weren't keen on have the flying dutchman under the tent
Alternatives must be on the cards, how about alongside max n?
Or is anstie being bumped up this year agewise?
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Bonanza69 6/7/2016 9:04am
6/7/2016 9:04am Edited Date/Time 6/7/2016 9:06am
Flip109 wrote:
The team staff? Or does tony have lots of mean stuff lying around? Lol mean little pets and little trinkets all over the team semiLaughing
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I meant "staff".I apologize for my poor english skill.Laughing
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Paul333 6/7/2016 9:18am
6/7/2016 9:18am Edited Date/Time 6/7/2016 9:34am
Some of you guys need to actually read posts.

It's saying Herlings will run under his current team but run a 350/450 in MX1. When it doesn't say. AC222 has his own team, but it is the KTM factory supported team in MX1 at the moment. This is the same team AC has been a part of since he has been in the GP's. They moved with him into GP racing, MX2 career, his move up to MX1, and the change from factory supported Yamaha's to being the KTM factory team.

Edited to add: Or as the article suggests possibly move to Team HRC for MX1.
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Paul333 wrote:
Some of you guys need to actually read posts. It's saying Herlings will run under his current team but run a 350/450 in MX1. When it...
Some of you guys need to actually read posts.

It's saying Herlings will run under his current team but run a 350/450 in MX1. When it doesn't say. AC222 has his own team, but it is the KTM factory supported team in MX1 at the moment. This is the same team AC has been a part of since he has been in the GP's. They moved with him into GP racing, MX2 career, his move up to MX1, and the change from factory supported Yamaha's to being the KTM factory team.

Edited to add: Or as the article suggests possibly move to Team HRC for MX1.
Cool, thanks for clearing that up!
thrillbillie91 6/7/2016 9:45am
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Paul333 wrote:
Some of you guys need to actually read posts. It's saying Herlings will run under his current team but run a 350/450 in MX1. When it...
Some of you guys need to actually read posts.

It's saying Herlings will run under his current team but run a 350/450 in MX1. When it doesn't say. AC222 has his own team, but it is the KTM factory supported team in MX1 at the moment. This is the same team AC has been a part of since he has been in the GP's. They moved with him into GP racing, MX2 career, his move up to MX1, and the change from factory supported Yamaha's to being the KTM factory team.

Edited to add: Or as the article suggests possibly move to Team HRC for MX1.
It pretty obvious de carli/tc have had a pretty significant say over there for quite a long time
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Flip109 wrote:
What's his beef with the Italian stallion? Tony seems like a nice guy. You would think he would want to be teammates with a legend...get some...
What's his beef with the Italian stallion? Tony seems like a nice guy. You would think he would want to be teammates with a legend...get some pointers maybe.
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I think it has more to do with Tony's staff.Nagl wasn't happy with them.
Hahaha you said Tony's staff....
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Flip109 6/7/2016 10:04am
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Flip109 wrote:
The team staff? Or does tony have lots of mean stuff lying around? Lol mean little pets and little trinkets all over the team semiLaughing
Bonanza69 wrote:
Blush
I meant "staff".I apologize for my poor english skill.Laughing
Haha I knew what you meant. Was just pokin funGrinning
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thrillbillie91 wrote:
Its been known for a while the 450 camp weren't keen on have the flying dutchman under the tent Alternatives must be on the cards, how...
Its been known for a while the 450 camp weren't keen on have the flying dutchman under the tent
Alternatives must be on the cards, how about alongside max n?
Or is anstie being bumped up this year agewise?
I bet they're not putting JH on a husky. It's the orange 450 or some other factory has to buy off his contract.
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kiwifan 6/7/2016 12:36pm
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kiwifan wrote:
No just no....I cant see him going to Honda....can see him going to Suzuki though
Motofinne wrote:
Stefan Everts Suzuki team? That will never ever happen. JH84 would probably rather quit than riding under him again if we believe the rumors and Everts...
Stefan Everts Suzuki team? That will never ever happen. JH84 would probably rather quit than riding under him again if we believe the rumors and Everts would never hire him.
Actually I didnt mean Everts team....
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kiwifan wrote:
No just no....I cant see him going to Honda....can see him going to Suzuki though
Motofinne wrote:
Stefan Everts Suzuki team? That will never ever happen. JH84 would probably rather quit than riding under him again if we believe the rumors and Everts...
Stefan Everts Suzuki team? That will never ever happen. JH84 would probably rather quit than riding under him again if we believe the rumors and Everts would never hire him.
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Actually I didnt mean Everts team....
So Yoshimura Suzuki or RCH? I don't think we'll see Herlings in US full time, i could be wrong though.
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Paul333 6/7/2016 12:46pm
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Herlings doesn't need to ride for the De Carli / TC222 Factory KTM team to ride for "Factory KTM". He can continue to ride on the same team he rides for now, just ride a 350/450.
RichardLoots 6/7/2016 1:16pm
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Paul333 wrote:
Herlings doesn't need to ride for the De Carli / TC222 Factory KTM team to ride for "Factory KTM". He can continue to ride on the...
Herlings doesn't need to ride for the De Carli / TC222 Factory KTM team to ride for "Factory KTM". He can continue to ride on the same team he rides for now, just ride a 350/450.
exactly , that has been the plan from day 1 with Cairoli racing at DeCarli
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Bidirella 6/7/2016 1:40pm
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Herlings to Honda would be weird.. Honda got right now Tim Gasjer. Pointsleader and still a Honda contract. So why drop him? Gasjer and Herlings both on Honda makes no sense at all. Or Suzuki must go after Gasjer and get him and Honda takes Herlings.. i dont see that happen either, same like Gasjer to the USA. Herlings wil stay at ktm under the mx2 tent on a 450 next year.

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aFACEdismembered 6/7/2016 1:53pm
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JackLHyde wrote:
OMG I hope he doesn't even consider the 350 anymore. He's riding the 450 fine. There's no need to put himself in a bad position due...
OMG I hope he doesn't even consider the 350 anymore. He's riding the 450 fine. There's no need to put himself in a bad position due to a bad start.
BobPA wrote:
Yeah, Tony has really improved going from the 350 to the 450....
RG1 wrote:
I'd like to see Tony go back to the 350 in the position he's in at the minute, he may as well try it
Me as well. When Villopoto arrived last year it was like he had an "oh shit" moment and decided he needed all the power he could get in order to beat him.
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JackLHyde wrote:
OMG I hope he doesn't even consider the 350 anymore. He's riding the 450 fine. There's no need to put himself in a bad position due...
OMG I hope he doesn't even consider the 350 anymore. He's riding the 450 fine. There's no need to put himself in a bad position due to a bad start.
BobPA wrote:
Yeah, Tony has really improved going from the 350 to the 450....
Seeing as how it is his own decision, he must not mind the 450 too much. You probably know more than TC himself though.
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Zycki11 6/7/2016 2:39pm
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Herlings is like a catholic priest, a grown man throwin mud at little boys
RichardLoots 6/8/2016 11:01am
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aFACEdismembered wrote:
Me as well. When Villopoto arrived last year it was like he had an "oh shit" moment and decided he needed all the power he could...
Me as well. When Villopoto arrived last year it was like he had an "oh shit" moment and decided he needed all the power he could get in order to beat him.
didnt TC222 switch to a 450 after RV2 was already out of the championship ???
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Arni 6/8/2016 11:52am
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Bidirella wrote:
Herlings to Honda would be weird.. Honda got right now Tim Gasjer. Pointsleader and still a Honda contract. So why drop him? Gasjer and Herlings both...
Herlings to Honda would be weird.. Honda got right now Tim Gasjer. Pointsleader and still a Honda contract. So why drop him? Gasjer and Herlings both on Honda makes no sense at all. Or Suzuki must go after Gasjer and get him and Honda takes Herlings.. i dont see that happen either, same like Gasjer to the USA. Herlings wil stay at ktm under the mx2 tent on a 450 next year.
You mean Gaiser?

As for Herlings. He's been on 250 for what,... 7 years now? Basically all his life. Smile Technique on 450 is not the same, or will he ride 350 first, like Cairolli, and with hand on clutch all the time. He is a great talent, but I think he will have problems adapting. He was too long on 250, just like Musquin.
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Aryen 6/8/2016 12:05pm
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Bidirella wrote:
Herlings to Honda would be weird.. Honda got right now Tim Gasjer. Pointsleader and still a Honda contract. So why drop him? Gasjer and Herlings both...
Herlings to Honda would be weird.. Honda got right now Tim Gasjer. Pointsleader and still a Honda contract. So why drop him? Gasjer and Herlings both on Honda makes no sense at all. Or Suzuki must go after Gasjer and get him and Honda takes Herlings.. i dont see that happen either, same like Gasjer to the USA. Herlings wil stay at ktm under the mx2 tent on a 450 next year.
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You mean Ga[b]is[/b]er? As for Herlings. He's been on 250 for what,... 7 years now? Basically all his life. :) Technique on 450 is not the...
You mean Gaiser?

As for Herlings. He's been on 250 for what,... 7 years now? Basically all his life. Smile Technique on 450 is not the same, or will he ride 350 first, like Cairolli, and with hand on clutch all the time. He is a great talent, but I think he will have problems adapting. He was too long on 250, just like Musquin.
You mean GaJser?? Wink

Don't you worry about JH on the 450, he's ridden it a thousand times already in the offseason. Besides, he's a big guy who can manage the bike.

Or do you think he lacks MX talent to adapt to another bike quickly?
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Arni 6/8/2016 12:31pm
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You mean GaJser?? ;) Don't you worry about JH on the 450, he's ridden it a thousand times already in the offseason. Besides, he's a big...
You mean GaJser?? Wink

Don't you worry about JH on the 450, he's ridden it a thousand times already in the offseason. Besides, he's a big guy who can manage the bike.

Or do you think he lacks MX talent to adapt to another bike quickly?
Yes, I, and J are the same in Slovenian. Original surname is Gaiser, and in the name of antigerman ideology after the war, most of the German last names were changed to more Slavic. Also my family name.

Herlings will adapt, that is for sure. I'm more worried about his mental preparation, as now he is 100% with his 250 KTM. Will he be so confident on 450, or 350. Maybe 7 years is too long and he could have a little bit of confident issues. And when you are not one with the bike, well...I don't think we will see dominant and smooth Herlings next year, as we see him now.

Musquin is one good example.
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kiwifan 6/8/2016 12:46pm
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Motofinne wrote:
Stefan Everts Suzuki team? That will never ever happen. JH84 would probably rather quit than riding under him again if we believe the rumors and Everts...
Stefan Everts Suzuki team? That will never ever happen. JH84 would probably rather quit than riding under him again if we believe the rumors and Everts would never hire him.
kiwifan wrote:
Actually I didnt mean Everts team....
Motofinne wrote:
So Yoshimura Suzuki or RCH? I don't think we'll see Herlings in US full time, i could be wrong though.
There are other Suzuki teams in MXGP :-)
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RichardLoots wrote:
didnt TC222 switch to a 450 after RV2 was already out of the championship ???
I thought it was before the season started but I've done a lot of things since then. Grinning
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Aryen 6/8/2016 1:13pm
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kiwifan wrote:
Actually I didnt mean Everts team....
Motofinne wrote:
So Yoshimura Suzuki or RCH? I don't think we'll see Herlings in US full time, i could be wrong though.
kiwifan wrote:
There are other Suzuki teams in MXGP :-)
Only Castrol Power 1 Suzuki but they're not even close to factory.

Guess again if you think they have a chance of signing Herlings.
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RandyS wrote:
Herlings is still going to be in MX2 in 2017? Wow, VitalMX stock just went up.
51xc wrote:
nobody said he will be mx2.
731chopper wrote:
The article talked about him making his MXGP debut on a Honda but he's contracted with KTM through 2017 which alludes to him riding MX2 again...
The article talked about him making his MXGP debut on a Honda but he's contracted with KTM through 2017 which alludes to him riding MX2 again next year. Whether or not there is any truth to it I have no idea nor do I really care but I can't help but think of this anytime I hear about the kid...



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The Source 6/8/2016 1:44pm
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aFACEdismembered wrote:
Me as well. When Villopoto arrived last year it was like he had an "oh shit" moment and decided he needed all the power he could...
Me as well. When Villopoto arrived last year it was like he had an "oh shit" moment and decided he needed all the power he could get in order to beat him.
RichardLoots wrote:
didnt TC222 switch to a 450 after RV2 was already out of the championship ???
Didn't realize RV was in the Championship, he rode a few one off crap fly away tracks but failed to finish one Moto on a regular GP track.

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