Team Owner and Mechanic Thrown Out

MxKing809 wrote:

We don't and we wont. Just be glad this isn't a real sport with real journalism (no offense GuyB, ML, and Matthes) because this would be...

We don't and we wont. Just be glad this isn't a real sport with real journalism (no offense GuyB, ML, and Matthes) because this would be plastered on websites, tv shows, and the like until the very last detail was wrung out. Thats the real world that most of us live in. If I went to my job and had a situation like this transpire, I wouldn't be able to keep it private. That is life. Again, be glad this is a glorified hobby that 99% of people don't care about. It's just a shame the 1% of us that live and breathe this sport are forced to be kept in the dark. Sorry if this offends anyone..... it's the truth.

dkg wrote:

MXBroc111, I appreciate you coming on here and taking the posts. Since you are only reporting what you were told, I can't shoot the messenger. In...

MXBroc111, I appreciate you coming on here and taking the posts. Since you are only reporting what you were told, I can't shoot the messenger. In any event, Glen Helen, MXSports, and the AMA handled things in a very professional manner. The best advice I can think of sharing that you to pass on is that some of your organization would be well served by googling the term "California Hate Crimes". From what I've read so far, they could have quite easily found themselves learning about it the hard way. If anything, your disgruntled team members should be thanking Glen Helen, DC, and other officials for handling the manner in which they did which obviously kept the situation from spinning further out of control. A vehicle coming into contact with or even driven in a threatening manner towards a security guard in combination with racial slurs is never a good situation to have to explain.

MxKing809 wrote:

We don't and we wont. Just be glad this isn't a real sport with real journalism (no offense GuyB, ML, and Matthes) because this would be...

We don't and we wont. Just be glad this isn't a real sport with real journalism (no offense GuyB, ML, and Matthes) because this would be plastered on websites, tv shows, and the like until the very last detail was wrung out. Thats the real world that most of us live in. If I went to my job and had a situation like this transpire, I wouldn't be able to keep it private. That is life. Again, be glad this is a glorified hobby that 99% of people don't care about. It's just a shame the 1% of us that live and breathe this sport are forced to be kept in the dark. Sorry if this offends anyone..... it's the truth.

Trav138 wrote:

I guess the racing just isn't enough for some these days. These people are more interested in this type of shit, and are "offended" when they...

I guess the racing just isn't enough for some these days. These people are more interested in this type of shit, and are "offended" when they are not privy to all the sloppy details to a shitfest such as this. Most people I know that live and breathe this sport wouldn't even bother with this mess and couldn't care less about any of it.

olds cool wrote:

Broc, while there may be good reasons to not post the videos you have, a picture of the the 2 hard cards that you claim are...

Broc, while there may be good reasons to not post the videos you have, a picture of the the 2 hard cards that you claim are in the rig would be a good place to start and shouldn't offend anyone. JMO, for whatever it's worth, which isn't much really...

MxBroc111 wrote:

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MxKing809 wrote:

We don't and we wont. Just be glad this isn't a real sport with real journalism (no offense GuyB, ML, and Matthes) because this would be...

We don't and we wont. Just be glad this isn't a real sport with real journalism (no offense GuyB, ML, and Matthes) because this would be plastered on websites, tv shows, and the like until the very last detail was wrung out. Thats the real world that most of us live in. If I went to my job and had a situation like this transpire, I wouldn't be able to keep it private. That is life. Again, be glad this is a glorified hobby that 99% of people don't care about. It's just a shame the 1% of us that live and breathe this sport are forced to be kept in the dark. Sorry if this offends anyone..... it's the truth.

Trav138 wrote:

I guess the racing just isn't enough for some these days. These people are more interested in this type of shit, and are "offended" when they...

I guess the racing just isn't enough for some these days. These people are more interested in this type of shit, and are "offended" when they are not privy to all the sloppy details to a shitfest such as this. Most people I know that live and breathe this sport wouldn't even bother with this mess and couldn't care less about any of it.

motov8tedcre8tor wrote:

This thread is pointless without names and quotes. Man...the secrecy and behind the scenes bullshit that goes on in this sport is disgusting, and you wouldn't...

This thread is pointless without names and quotes. Man...the secrecy and behind the scenes bullshit that goes on in this sport is disgusting, and you wouldn't see it in many other legitimate sports.

MxKing809 wrote:

The racing IS enough. It just pisses me off when the sport operates outside of the social constructs and norms of our world. Like I said...

The racing IS enough. It just pisses me off when the sport operates outside of the social constructs and norms of our world. Like I said above, go to work and have an episode like the one portrayed here..... then choose to not let anyone know about it. Let me know how that works out for you. If you're a professional athlete, I guarantee you wouldn't be able to keep this in house... because that's the way of the world. The shroud of secrecy and lack of reporting in this sport is sickening. I wish we could just focus on the racing, but you're right, when something like this happens I want to know exactly what happened. That will greatly effect if I write a letter for the 3rd year thanking BB, or if I will not. It also effects amateurs coming up, who may not know things about a team because it was never reported, then they're stuck with them. But herein lies the problem, if a journalist reported things like this, the team would get butt hurt and shun them forever. How is that good for anyone other than the team?

MxKing809 wrote:

The racing IS enough. It just pisses me off when the sport operates outside of the social constructs and norms of our world. Like I said...

The racing IS enough. It just pisses me off when the sport operates outside of the social constructs and norms of our world. Like I said above, go to work and have an episode like the one portrayed here..... then choose to not let anyone know about it. Let me know how that works out for you. If you're a professional athlete, I guarantee you wouldn't be able to keep this in house... because that's the way of the world. The shroud of secrecy and lack of reporting in this sport is sickening. I wish we could just focus on the racing, but you're right, when something like this happens I want to know exactly what happened. That will greatly effect if I write a letter for the 3rd year thanking BB, or if I will not. It also effects amateurs coming up, who may not know things about a team because it was never reported, then they're stuck with them. But herein lies the problem, if a journalist reported things like this, the team would get butt hurt and shun them forever. How is that good for anyone other than the team?

GuyB wrote:

I did have someone ask me to delete this. If I'd done that, would it have gone away? Or would it have blown up bigger because...

I did have someone ask me to delete this.

If I'd done that, would it have gone away? Or would it have blown up bigger because enough people had already seen it, and it would have looked like it was getting swept under the rug.

If it hadn't shown up here, I likely would have written up something about it in Pit Bits. But with the various side's stories, it has probably sorted itself out more effectively than I could have done.

I was watching the latter half of this unfold, and Broc was the voices of reason with the team, as polite and respectful as they come, just like you see here.

I do think the people taking BB to task are a bit misguided here. Yes, it sounds like some people did some dumb things, but that was the team, not the sponsor. I'd prefer to see people support the sponsors that support the sport. The rest will sort itself out.

kongols wrote:

Too much drama. Some hot heads got thrown out. So what?

Thor34103 wrote:

Broc, why bring up videos and photos if you have them and it would clear those involved from the team? Sure, there are 3 sides to...

Broc, why bring up videos and photos if you have them and it would clear those involved from the team? Sure, there are 3 sides to every story, and this sort of evidence would help tilt the scales to where the truth is.

Mr. Info wrote:

Lets deal with the facts we know for sure happened. 1 CSC Security was involved with a problem at both entrances to the pits. 2 It...

Lets deal with the facts we know for sure happened.
1 CSC Security was involved with a problem at both entrances to the pits.
2 It escalated into arguing.
3 Glen Helens Security became involved and tried to defuse the problem so no one have to leave. It got worse. They were asked to leave.
4 DC was called and tried to defuse the whole thing and it got worse and DC gave them a time frame to leave.
5 Broc111 was not there when things went down by his own words.

Main point this never should have happened. Never should have went this far. And MX Sports will handle it from here and hope maybe after a few days to reflect maybe it can be resolved. I am sorry it happened and I hope they are as well.

DC wrote:

I was only there for the end but Mr. Info is correct in what happened, how it happened, and how it was ultimately resolved. Mr Alan...

I was only there for the end but Mr. Info is correct in what happened, how it happened, and how it was ultimately resolved. Mr Alan Kent had every right to use his years of law enforcement to peacefully evict the team in question after something fairly simple escalated quickly. Hats off to Mr. Kent for then making an exception to allow the riders (who weren't even there at the time) back in to race, and also Bill Dill of 3-D Racing for offering all of his support complete strangers in a bind. (And Bill was there to offer help to Kade Klason when he had his strange day at GH last year.) The riders found other places to work from, but the rig was last seen at a nearby Wal-Mart...

And forgive Mr. Info for some poor early grammar, he worked his butt off out there for weeks to help make the event happen. Everyone did and that was a great big race, with a whole bunch of people lining the fences and packing the infield to enjoy seeing the best riders in the world all day long.

DC

dkg wrote:

GuyB, agree completely on all points, deleting this thread would only have caused a shit storm of epic proportions. Luckily for this Vitard, those smarter than...

GuyB, agree completely on all points, deleting this thread would only have caused a shit storm of epic proportions. Luckily for this Vitard, those smarter than me(particularly now that post count doesn't increase intelligence) have to sort it all out.

MxKing809 wrote:

The racing IS enough. It just pisses me off when the sport operates outside of the social constructs and norms of our world. Like I said...

The racing IS enough. It just pisses me off when the sport operates outside of the social constructs and norms of our world. Like I said above, go to work and have an episode like the one portrayed here..... then choose to not let anyone know about it. Let me know how that works out for you. If you're a professional athlete, I guarantee you wouldn't be able to keep this in house... because that's the way of the world. The shroud of secrecy and lack of reporting in this sport is sickening. I wish we could just focus on the racing, but you're right, when something like this happens I want to know exactly what happened. That will greatly effect if I write a letter for the 3rd year thanking BB, or if I will not. It also effects amateurs coming up, who may not know things about a team because it was never reported, then they're stuck with them. But herein lies the problem, if a journalist reported things like this, the team would get butt hurt and shun them forever. How is that good for anyone other than the team?

GuyB wrote:

I did have someone ask me to delete this. If I'd done that, would it have gone away? Or would it have blown up bigger because...

I did have someone ask me to delete this.

If I'd done that, would it have gone away? Or would it have blown up bigger because enough people had already seen it, and it would have looked like it was getting swept under the rug.

If it hadn't shown up here, I likely would have written up something about it in Pit Bits. But with the various side's stories, it has probably sorted itself out more effectively than I could have done.

I was watching the latter half of this unfold, and Broc was the voices of reason with the team, as polite and respectful as they come, just like you see here.

I do think the people taking BB to task are a bit misguided here. Yes, it sounds like some people did some dumb things, but that was the team, not the sponsor. I'd prefer to see people support the sponsors that support the sport. The rest will sort itself out.

huck wrote:

I was there and took a picture of the security guard holding up a sign when Broc got there... It appears he was allowed to enter...

I was there and took a picture of the security guard holding up a sign when Broc got there... It appears he was allowed to enter...

huck wrote:

I was there and took a picture of the security guard holding up a sign when Broc got there... It appears he was allowed to enter...

I was there and took a picture of the security guard holding up a sign when Broc got there... It appears he was allowed to enter...

MxBroc111 wrote:

HAHAHAHA I laughed out loud at this one and the person who said "is the team manager actually ugly?" A mix between Fergie and Jesus. He's...

HAHAHAHA I laughed out loud at this one and the person who said "is the team manager actually ugly?" A mix between Fergie and Jesus. He's been called the songbird of our generation. (Movie reference)

huck wrote:

I was there and took a picture of the security guard holding up a sign when Broc got there... It appears he was allowed to enter...

I was there and took a picture of the security guard holding up a sign when Broc got there... It appears he was allowed to enter...

MxBroc111 wrote:

HAHAHAHA I laughed out loud at this one and the person who said "is the team manager actually ugly?" A mix between Fergie and Jesus. He's...

HAHAHAHA I laughed out loud at this one and the person who said "is the team manager actually ugly?" A mix between Fergie and Jesus. He's been called the songbird of our generation. (Movie reference)

EEE299 wrote:

You catch Step Brothers on TV the other day too?

Mr. Info wrote:

Lets deal with the facts we know for sure happened. 1 CSC Security was involved with a problem at both entrances to the pits. 2 It...

Lets deal with the facts we know for sure happened.
1 CSC Security was involved with a problem at both entrances to the pits.
2 It escalated into arguing.
3 Glen Helens Security became involved and tried to defuse the problem so no one have to leave. It got worse. They were asked to leave.
4 DC was called and tried to defuse the whole thing and it got worse and DC gave them a time frame to leave.
5 Broc111 was not there when things went down by his own words.

Main point this never should have happened. Never should have went this far. And MX Sports will handle it from here and hope maybe after a few days to reflect maybe it can be resolved. I am sorry it happened and I hope they are as well.

MXD wrote:

This should have been your first post instead of adding all the other details that are now being refuted. What a mess. Now that Broc has...

This should have been your first post instead of adding all the other details that are now being refuted. What a mess. Now that Broc has chimed in, you seem to be back pedaling on a few of your original "facts". That's never a good look. You sound less and less believable.

Here is your first post. Some of your "facts" from this one are now missing from your latest.

"I am not naming names but a small team owner with a big name sponsor was thrown out on Friday from the Glen Helen National for making one of Glen Helen break into tears for actions the mechanic committed and then not 30 minutes late to gate security because he felt he was above the same rules as everyone else.
It then escalated to the team owner and mechanic making racial comment and sexual comments asking for services and then not stopping when security head came over and tried to quite the whole thing down without anyone leaving but the team owner would not stop and it led to them both being ejected, hard cards taken as well. Security did not punish the riders because they were not there and let them ride.
This will not be accepted at Glen Helen and DC said it will not be accepted at any National."

CalRMX wrote:

That's pretty naive imho. Their sponsored by Blue Buffalo, therefore anything they do reflects on the sponsor whether their there or not. After last years GH...

That's pretty naive imho. Their sponsored by Blue Buffalo, therefore anything they do reflects on the sponsor whether their there or not. After last years GH fiasco I will not buy a rocket exhaust, now nothing from Slater or Blue Buffalo.

Blue Buffalo needs to make a statement that catagorically states that they do not condone in any form the conduct at GH, and should terminate the relationship with Slater.

I had a friend who worked for the Budweiser drag racing team. Race weekends, they had to wear Bud gear, even if going out for a drink, they were only allowed to drink Bud when in uniform, if they had acted like the PC hanger ons did at Hooters, or even did something only 1% as offensive as happened at GH, they would have been fired on the spot. Everything they did reflected on the Budweiser team . They were expected to act profesionally, and they did.

MXD wrote:

I understand not buying rocket or slater products since they were directly involved. But personally, I would draw the line there. This had nothing to do...

I understand not buying rocket or slater products since they were directly involved. But personally, I would draw the line there. This had nothing to do with Blue Buffalo. But everyone is entitled to their opinion.