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Next REM there will be a 180 footer quintuple!
Seriously are you really that dense or just in a rush to be critical to imply REM jumps are the same as the 150 footer? Where's a face palm photo when you need one.
For the reading challenged Vitards please let me clarify:
1) MX definitely includes jumps
2) I don't want flat tracks devoid of any jumps
3) I don't want 100 foot jumps on my local track
4) I don't want to ride on a smooth outdoor SX track with a lot of jumps
5) I do want to ride and race on a rough gnarly outdoor MX track WITH reasonable jumps. This is why I am a REM fan.
BTW I would love to know how many of you big air tough guys even ride?
Same question about lifting. :-)
PS no answer from the guys saying REM is easy regarding if they've raced there. Classic blowhards
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What YOU consider big or dangerous, maybe somebody else considers fun. What you consider fun, maybe somebody else considers dangerous and big.
If you don't want to jump 150 footers, the simple solution is to not jump them.
I've ridden at REM and Glen Helen. I didn't jump the big step up jump at GH...but I also didn't start a campaign to have it shortened either....
Hope you didn't hurt yourself stretching that far.
Thanks for straightening me out.
If I happen to know a few people personally that have broken their neck on rough flat sections of track and none who have broken their neck on a jump, that says something about the sampling of injuries. That said, if we have a bunch of newb riders hit a 150 ft jump, we'll end up with some broken body parts but that is just stupid as everyone has a choice not to jump it. Plus, we are talking about a pro race here, there are pros who had hit 150 ft jumps by the time they were 12.
I may have to quote you an that first part!!!
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With that being said, a 150 step up is safer than a 150 step down or flat jump. The track builders are doing it right in terms of safety in this regard.
And the days before cell phones and computers were better, You could take off, do what you wanted all day, and when you got back, you just said, 'sorry' couldn't find a phone. Your wife, your mom, or your boss would shrug, and that was the end of it, Nobody in your business. Life was good. But we had to invent this crap, so people could all migrate to become nagging wives, and complain about everything all day. Be careful what you wish for. Take a look at Pam Anderson lately?
If we are discussing 30 ft. jumps, I definitely don't care to watch pros hit a jump smaller than ones I hit on a mountain bike.
i actually like the way the jump is built. i like the option of staying low and i prefer the "hill" as opposed to how it used to be with a jump down the backside (which both me and my brother were hurt on).
honestly the way the jump is built it is relatively safe, it has a large landing zone so margin of error is good, and the face was kept smooth. most people i see get hurt are due to a jump getting rough and sketchy with ruts kickers, and i see more people with regular injuries from cartwheeling through some rough section without jumps o
It's certainly not the riskiest part of the Hangtown track, and about as forgiving as any jump that big could be.
It seems like this is one of those deals where people are mixing different issues. If the point is big artificial jumps are not part of motocross, that's just a difference of opinion and a subjective thing. If the point is that big jumps are too dangerous for motocross, that is a risk issue that ought to be tied to data and not beg the question of whether a feature is designed well by using "big jump" as a proxy for bad. A badly designed small jump may be a bigger risk, especially to nonpros. Shoot, Bailey was paralyzed trying to work a line off what was no more a small mound.
But like golf if your hitting 150' uphill, you gotta hit it like its 200'.....that is just crazy!
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