Nico Izzi Back on Track

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Like others have said, I've watched Nico ride for years, starting back when he was a kid, and the talent that he has is phenomenal. I'm getting the impression he tripped up, which I would expect, but he needs to regain his composure and get back to being healthy, forget riding/racing, get healthy in your mind.

I know nothing about the allegations that were thrown around and that's just hearsay as far as I'm concerned, but if he's not working with SSR anymore I can only assume things are getting worse. I can't help but think getting back to riding brought out those demons, maybe it's the people, old habits of when he used, I don't know, it's just sickening to see someone that is so talented to just piss it away.

I'm not an addict, but I've known several, some pulled it together and some are in the ground, harsh truth of the options.

Get well dude

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KAWI642 wrote:
Always choose to believe the best before assuming the worse!!! 2 side's to every story. People love to villify, condemn and stigamatize people who have had...
Always choose to believe the best before assuming the worse!!! 2 side's to every story. People love to villify, condemn and stigamatize people who have had addiction problems as if they are void of problems it really pisses me off.
davistld01 wrote:
"The problem with the hypocrite is his motivation. He doesn't want to be righteous, he wants to be seen as being righteous."

-Augustine
KAWI642 wrote:
and never judge another human being until you've walked a mile in his shoes!!! Just Love em anyway.... We all are flawed human beings. Lot's of...
and never judge another human being until you've walked a mile in his shoes!!! Just Love em anyway.... We all are flawed human beings. Lot's of people say they want to help until it comes to actually doing it.

Man, I don't even know the Kid and have no skins in the game but I know what it feels like to be judged and treated like a POS because of being addicted and it perpetuates the self loathing, shame and guilt that addiction feeds off of.

3 most addictive Drugs 1. Heroin 2. Alcohol 3. Cocaine

Can you imagine how many people would instantly become a "alcoholic" if they had to resort to blackmarket means to drink???? facing the same stigma and disdain from society that the others do? read up on prohibition and why it was passed and why it didn't work.... sounds very similar to our Opiate problem of today. my 2 cents.
I thought crack was #1 in being addictive and to break away from?
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zingaa wrote:
Like others have said, I've watched Nico ride for years, starting back when he was a kid, and the talent that he has is phenomenal. I'm...
Like others have said, I've watched Nico ride for years, starting back when he was a kid, and the talent that he has is phenomenal. I'm getting the impression he tripped up, which I would expect, but he needs to regain his composure and get back to being healthy, forget riding/racing, get healthy in your mind.

I know nothing about the allegations that were thrown around and that's just hearsay as far as I'm concerned, but if he's not working with SSR anymore I can only assume things are getting worse. I can't help but think getting back to riding brought out those demons, maybe it's the people, old habits of when he used, I don't know, it's just sickening to see someone that is so talented to just piss it away.

I'm not an addict, but I've known several, some pulled it together and some are in the ground, harsh truth of the options.

Get well dude

You Sir are a Jack Ass. Did you know "assumption" is the Mother of all Fuck ups??? This whole thing stinks. Hate it for the Kid.
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5/20/2016 9:20am Edited Date/Time 5/20/2016 9:27am
davistld01 wrote:
"The problem with the hypocrite is his motivation. He doesn't want to be righteous, he wants to be seen as being righteous."

-Augustine
KAWI642 wrote:
and never judge another human being until you've walked a mile in his shoes!!! Just Love em anyway.... We all are flawed human beings. Lot's of...
and never judge another human being until you've walked a mile in his shoes!!! Just Love em anyway.... We all are flawed human beings. Lot's of people say they want to help until it comes to actually doing it.

Man, I don't even know the Kid and have no skins in the game but I know what it feels like to be judged and treated like a POS because of being addicted and it perpetuates the self loathing, shame and guilt that addiction feeds off of.

3 most addictive Drugs 1. Heroin 2. Alcohol 3. Cocaine

Can you imagine how many people would instantly become a "alcoholic" if they had to resort to blackmarket means to drink???? facing the same stigma and disdain from society that the others do? read up on prohibition and why it was passed and why it didn't work.... sounds very similar to our Opiate problem of today. my 2 cents.
kkawboy14 wrote:
I thought crack was #1 in being addictive and to break away from?
Honestly I think it depends on the individual. To me Cocaine is by far the hardest to kick.... Im a speed freak though.
Every addict has their "drug of choice" the one that flips the switch. to them it's the most addictive. Alcohol is a monster too. IMO worse opiates when full grown. Opiates will kill your ass deader than a doorknob.


Most of these judgmental, negative ass wipes don't realize Motocross is an addiction too---- releases the same chemicals as cocaine. Anyone ever spent money they didn't have to race?? anyone ever beg borrow and steal to get that new bike? new tires? sounds kinda like addict behavior. I spent 5 years addicted to extreme fitness.... worked out so hard eventually jacked my back so bad that I can barely get out of bed some days. MX is a helluva drug!! love that rush!!!

The Shop

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5/20/2016 9:34am
KAWI642 wrote:
Honestly I think it depends on the individual. To me Cocaine is by far the hardest to kick.... Im a speed freak though. Every addict has...
Honestly I think it depends on the individual. To me Cocaine is by far the hardest to kick.... Im a speed freak though.
Every addict has their "drug of choice" the one that flips the switch. to them it's the most addictive. Alcohol is a monster too. IMO worse opiates when full grown. Opiates will kill your ass deader than a doorknob.


Most of these judgmental, negative ass wipes don't realize Motocross is an addiction too---- releases the same chemicals as cocaine. Anyone ever spent money they didn't have to race?? anyone ever beg borrow and steal to get that new bike? new tires? sounds kinda like addict behavior. I spent 5 years addicted to extreme fitness.... worked out so hard eventually jacked my back so bad that I can barely get out of bed some days. MX is a helluva drug!! love that rush!!!
Boom!
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5/20/2016 9:39am Edited Date/Time 5/20/2016 9:39am
Kawi642, is this kind of what you mean?



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5/20/2016 9:50am Edited Date/Time 5/20/2016 9:59am
KAWI642 wrote:
Honestly I think it depends on the individual. To me Cocaine is by far the hardest to kick.... Im a speed freak though. Every addict has...
Honestly I think it depends on the individual. To me Cocaine is by far the hardest to kick.... Im a speed freak though.
Every addict has their "drug of choice" the one that flips the switch. to them it's the most addictive. Alcohol is a monster too. IMO worse opiates when full grown. Opiates will kill your ass deader than a doorknob.


Most of these judgmental, negative ass wipes don't realize Motocross is an addiction too---- releases the same chemicals as cocaine. Anyone ever spent money they didn't have to race?? anyone ever beg borrow and steal to get that new bike? new tires? sounds kinda like addict behavior. I spent 5 years addicted to extreme fitness.... worked out so hard eventually jacked my back so bad that I can barely get out of bed some days. MX is a helluva drug!! love that rush!!!
kzizok wrote:
Boom!
Ok, I guess I'm a judgemental, negative ass wipe...but also a recovered alcoholic & addict. To lump the sport of Motocross as an addictive "drug" along with cocaine, speed, opiates, alcohol or anything else is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard...and I've heard a lot.

Lets see if I can explain...Motocross "addiction" does not...

1. Destroy your body & mind
2. Destroy your relationships
3. Completely trash your finances
4. Cause you to do criminal activity that you would never do if you weren't addicted
5. Alienate you from family, real friends & society as a whole
6. Put you in jeopardy of being arrested on a daily basis
7. Make you pretty much incapable of keeping a job
8. Puts you in close proximity with unsavory & dangerous people regularly
9, Kill you

To some...Nico for instance, Moto is his way back to sobriety. I give him huge props for being willing to come back from the brink.

I know the brink...I've been there.

Boom.
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5/20/2016 10:30am Edited Date/Time 5/20/2016 10:35am
davistld01 wrote:
Ok, I guess I'm a judgemental, negative ass wipe...but also a recovered alcoholic & addict. To lump the sport of Motocross as an addictive "drug" along...
Ok, I guess I'm a judgemental, negative ass wipe...but also a recovered alcoholic & addict. To lump the sport of Motocross as an addictive "drug" along with cocaine, speed, opiates, alcohol or anything else is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard...and I've heard a lot.

Lets see if I can explain...Motocross "addiction" does not...

1. Destroy your body & mind
2. Destroy your relationships
3. Completely trash your finances
4. Cause you to do criminal activity that you would never do if you weren't addicted
5. Alienate you from family, real friends & society as a whole
6. Put you in jeopardy of being arrested on a daily basis
7. Make you pretty much incapable of keeping a job
8. Puts you in close proximity with unsavory & dangerous people regularly
9, Kill you

To some...Nico for instance, Moto is his way back to sobriety. I give him huge props for being willing to come back from the brink.

I know the brink...I've been there.

Boom.
Eliminate 4, 6 and 8 from your list and I would say you are wrong. But when you think about it, 8 could probably remain on the list (since everyone on the track is regularly in danger and out of a full gate there has to be at least a few unsavory ones....right?).....Boom?
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5/20/2016 10:33am
davistld01 wrote:
Ok, I guess I'm a judgemental, negative ass wipe...but also a recovered alcoholic & addict. To lump the sport of Motocross as an addictive "drug" along...
Ok, I guess I'm a judgemental, negative ass wipe...but also a recovered alcoholic & addict. To lump the sport of Motocross as an addictive "drug" along with cocaine, speed, opiates, alcohol or anything else is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard...and I've heard a lot.

Lets see if I can explain...Motocross "addiction" does not...

1. Destroy your body & mind
2. Destroy your relationships
3. Completely trash your finances
4. Cause you to do criminal activity that you would never do if you weren't addicted
5. Alienate you from family, real friends & society as a whole
6. Put you in jeopardy of being arrested on a daily basis
7. Make you pretty much incapable of keeping a job
8. Puts you in close proximity with unsavory & dangerous people regularly
9, Kill you

To some...Nico for instance, Moto is his way back to sobriety. I give him huge props for being willing to come back from the brink.

I know the brink...I've been there.

Boom.
Motoxdoc wrote:
Eliminate 4, 6 and 8 from your list and I would say you are wrong. But when you think about it, 8 could probably remain on...
Eliminate 4, 6 and 8 from your list and I would say you are wrong. But when you think about it, 8 could probably remain on the list (since everyone on the track is regularly in danger and out of a full gate there has to be at least a few unsavory ones....right?).....Boom?
hahahaha, I was thinking the exact same thing!
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5/20/2016 10:55am Edited Date/Time 5/20/2016 10:58am
KAWI642 wrote:
Honestly I think it depends on the individual. To me Cocaine is by far the hardest to kick.... Im a speed freak though. Every addict has...
Honestly I think it depends on the individual. To me Cocaine is by far the hardest to kick.... Im a speed freak though.
Every addict has their "drug of choice" the one that flips the switch. to them it's the most addictive. Alcohol is a monster too. IMO worse opiates when full grown. Opiates will kill your ass deader than a doorknob.


Most of these judgmental, negative ass wipes don't realize Motocross is an addiction too---- releases the same chemicals as cocaine. Anyone ever spent money they didn't have to race?? anyone ever beg borrow and steal to get that new bike? new tires? sounds kinda like addict behavior. I spent 5 years addicted to extreme fitness.... worked out so hard eventually jacked my back so bad that I can barely get out of bed some days. MX is a helluva drug!! love that rush!!!
kzizok wrote:
Boom!
davistld01 wrote:
Ok, I guess I'm a judgemental, negative ass wipe...but also a recovered alcoholic & addict. To lump the sport of Motocross as an addictive "drug" along...
Ok, I guess I'm a judgemental, negative ass wipe...but also a recovered alcoholic & addict. To lump the sport of Motocross as an addictive "drug" along with cocaine, speed, opiates, alcohol or anything else is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard...and I've heard a lot.

Lets see if I can explain...Motocross "addiction" does not...

1. Destroy your body & mind
2. Destroy your relationships
3. Completely trash your finances
4. Cause you to do criminal activity that you would never do if you weren't addicted
5. Alienate you from family, real friends & society as a whole
6. Put you in jeopardy of being arrested on a daily basis
7. Make you pretty much incapable of keeping a job
8. Puts you in close proximity with unsavory & dangerous people regularly
9, Kill you

To some...Nico for instance, Moto is his way back to sobriety. I give him huge props for being willing to come back from the brink.

I know the brink...I've been there.

Boom.
Boom? how old are you , 12? Hey look!! Mr Johnny Internet Fukface just flexed his monster intellect !!! I'm not even going to try to reason with you as the concept and theory I was referring to is over your head. Remind me of my wife - will argue to the death even when she's dead wrong. You no drug addict brutha - when you been there you would never make such a dickfaced comment about on of you!! When you snort a house, cars, wife and 75 k up your nose in a year come talk to me.

Yes, if you eliminate 4 +6 then i can say you find examples at every track in the country particularly that pesky little Loretta Lynn money racket. Those pitiful (i was one of them) bastards spend every dime, moment and energy to get to that God forsaken 100 degree hellhole every year. Biggest tourist trap in the Country - well done MX Sports!! lol

Divorces, financial ruin, pain and misery is the end result of a lot of those stories not to mention little Johnny Brotocross is hooked on pain pills from breaking 26 bones from 5-14 . I hate it but I love it.

As far as # 6 I started 2 companies from scratch in 2013 and both were making money in month 3 all the while snorting anywhere from 6-12 Oxycontin 30 mgs a day. They gave me Superman energy I was working 12-14 hours every day plus a hour and a half of Crossfit in the afternoons. I found opiate addiction made me very functional (non functional)

But when the pain clinic cuts you off you are FUCKED then. thats when you go to doing dumb shit to avoid that withdrawal.... feel like you got the flu- it's terrible
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KAWI642 wrote:
and never judge another human being until you've walked a mile in his shoes!!! Just Love em anyway.... We all are flawed human beings. Lot's of...
and never judge another human being until you've walked a mile in his shoes!!! Just Love em anyway.... We all are flawed human beings. Lot's of people say they want to help until it comes to actually doing it.

Man, I don't even know the Kid and have no skins in the game but I know what it feels like to be judged and treated like a POS because of being addicted and it perpetuates the self loathing, shame and guilt that addiction feeds off of.

3 most addictive Drugs 1. Heroin 2. Alcohol 3. Cocaine

Can you imagine how many people would instantly become a "alcoholic" if they had to resort to blackmarket means to drink???? facing the same stigma and disdain from society that the others do? read up on prohibition and why it was passed and why it didn't work.... sounds very similar to our Opiate problem of today. my 2 cents.
kkawboy14 wrote:
I thought crack was #1 in being addictive and to break away from?
KAWI642 wrote:
Honestly I think it depends on the individual. To me Cocaine is by far the hardest to kick.... Im a speed freak though. Every addict has...
Honestly I think it depends on the individual. To me Cocaine is by far the hardest to kick.... Im a speed freak though.
Every addict has their "drug of choice" the one that flips the switch. to them it's the most addictive. Alcohol is a monster too. IMO worse opiates when full grown. Opiates will kill your ass deader than a doorknob.


Most of these judgmental, negative ass wipes don't realize Motocross is an addiction too---- releases the same chemicals as cocaine. Anyone ever spent money they didn't have to race?? anyone ever beg borrow and steal to get that new bike? new tires? sounds kinda like addict behavior. I spent 5 years addicted to extreme fitness.... worked out so hard eventually jacked my back so bad that I can barely get out of bed some days. MX is a helluva drug!! love that rush!!!
Ahh that makes sense!
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5/20/2016 11:26am Edited Date/Time 5/20/2016 11:28am
kzizok wrote:
Boom!
davistld01 wrote:
Ok, I guess I'm a judgemental, negative ass wipe...but also a recovered alcoholic & addict. To lump the sport of Motocross as an addictive "drug" along...
Ok, I guess I'm a judgemental, negative ass wipe...but also a recovered alcoholic & addict. To lump the sport of Motocross as an addictive "drug" along with cocaine, speed, opiates, alcohol or anything else is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard...and I've heard a lot.

Lets see if I can explain...Motocross "addiction" does not...

1. Destroy your body & mind
2. Destroy your relationships
3. Completely trash your finances
4. Cause you to do criminal activity that you would never do if you weren't addicted
5. Alienate you from family, real friends & society as a whole
6. Put you in jeopardy of being arrested on a daily basis
7. Make you pretty much incapable of keeping a job
8. Puts you in close proximity with unsavory & dangerous people regularly
9, Kill you

To some...Nico for instance, Moto is his way back to sobriety. I give him huge props for being willing to come back from the brink.

I know the brink...I've been there.

Boom.
KAWI642 wrote:
Boom? how old are you , 12? Hey look!! Mr Johnny Internet Fukface just flexed his monster intellect !!! I'm not even going to try to...
Boom? how old are you , 12? Hey look!! Mr Johnny Internet Fukface just flexed his monster intellect !!! I'm not even going to try to reason with you as the concept and theory I was referring to is over your head. Remind me of my wife - will argue to the death even when she's dead wrong. You no drug addict brutha - when you been there you would never make such a dickfaced comment about on of you!! When you snort a house, cars, wife and 75 k up your nose in a year come talk to me.

Yes, if you eliminate 4 +6 then i can say you find examples at every track in the country particularly that pesky little Loretta Lynn money racket. Those pitiful (i was one of them) bastards spend every dime, moment and energy to get to that God forsaken 100 degree hellhole every year. Biggest tourist trap in the Country - well done MX Sports!! lol

Divorces, financial ruin, pain and misery is the end result of a lot of those stories not to mention little Johnny Brotocross is hooked on pain pills from breaking 26 bones from 5-14 . I hate it but I love it.

As far as # 6 I started 2 companies from scratch in 2013 and both were making money in month 3 all the while snorting anywhere from 6-12 Oxycontin 30 mgs a day. They gave me Superman energy I was working 12-14 hours every day plus a hour and a half of Crossfit in the afternoons. I found opiate addiction made me very functional (non functional)

But when the pain clinic cuts you off you are FUCKED then. thats when you go to doing dumb shit to avoid that withdrawal.... feel like you got the flu- it's terrible
Oh, I get it now. You're just proud of doing more dope than I did. Cool. Carry on, bro.
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5/20/2016 11:27am
zingaa wrote:
Like others have said, I've watched Nico ride for years, starting back when he was a kid, and the talent that he has is phenomenal. I'm...
Like others have said, I've watched Nico ride for years, starting back when he was a kid, and the talent that he has is phenomenal. I'm getting the impression he tripped up, which I would expect, but he needs to regain his composure and get back to being healthy, forget riding/racing, get healthy in your mind.

I know nothing about the allegations that were thrown around and that's just hearsay as far as I'm concerned, but if he's not working with SSR anymore I can only assume things are getting worse. I can't help but think getting back to riding brought out those demons, maybe it's the people, old habits of when he used, I don't know, it's just sickening to see someone that is so talented to just piss it away.

I'm not an addict, but I've known several, some pulled it together and some are in the ground, harsh truth of the options.

Get well dude

KAWI642 wrote:
You Sir are a Jack Ass. Did you know "assumption" is the Mother of all Fuck ups??? This whole thing stinks. Hate it for the Kid.
Kind of a harsh reply there for what he wrote. You sound angry at the wrong people. I too have seen quite a few go over the edge, one just across the street from my house and one being the wife of three good kids. You sound as if everyone else is supposed to put the brakes on their own lives indefinitely and go flat fucking broke tending to the addict. Unfortunately that is about where these families were at when the inevitable finally happened. If you were so far out on the ragged edge and happen to have made it back then maybe you should be making amends with and reimbursing those who helped bring you back because there is no doubt that good people did good things for you, probably at a huge financial toll. Of course I am only "assuming" these things...
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5/20/2016 11:33am Edited Date/Time 5/20/2016 11:33am
kzizok wrote:
Boom!
davistld01 wrote:
Ok, I guess I'm a judgemental, negative ass wipe...but also a recovered alcoholic & addict. To lump the sport of Motocross as an addictive "drug" along...
Ok, I guess I'm a judgemental, negative ass wipe...but also a recovered alcoholic & addict. To lump the sport of Motocross as an addictive "drug" along with cocaine, speed, opiates, alcohol or anything else is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard...and I've heard a lot.

Lets see if I can explain...Motocross "addiction" does not...

1. Destroy your body & mind
2. Destroy your relationships
3. Completely trash your finances
4. Cause you to do criminal activity that you would never do if you weren't addicted
5. Alienate you from family, real friends & society as a whole
6. Put you in jeopardy of being arrested on a daily basis
7. Make you pretty much incapable of keeping a job
8. Puts you in close proximity with unsavory & dangerous people regularly
9, Kill you

To some...Nico for instance, Moto is his way back to sobriety. I give him huge props for being willing to come back from the brink.

I know the brink...I've been there.

Boom.
KAWI642 wrote:
Boom? how old are you , 12? Hey look!! Mr Johnny Internet Fukface just flexed his monster intellect !!! I'm not even going to try to...
Boom? how old are you , 12? Hey look!! Mr Johnny Internet Fukface just flexed his monster intellect !!! I'm not even going to try to reason with you as the concept and theory I was referring to is over your head. Remind me of my wife - will argue to the death even when she's dead wrong. You no drug addict brutha - when you been there you would never make such a dickfaced comment about on of you!! When you snort a house, cars, wife and 75 k up your nose in a year come talk to me.

Yes, if you eliminate 4 +6 then i can say you find examples at every track in the country particularly that pesky little Loretta Lynn money racket. Those pitiful (i was one of them) bastards spend every dime, moment and energy to get to that God forsaken 100 degree hellhole every year. Biggest tourist trap in the Country - well done MX Sports!! lol

Divorces, financial ruin, pain and misery is the end result of a lot of those stories not to mention little Johnny Brotocross is hooked on pain pills from breaking 26 bones from 5-14 . I hate it but I love it.

As far as # 6 I started 2 companies from scratch in 2013 and both were making money in month 3 all the while snorting anywhere from 6-12 Oxycontin 30 mgs a day. They gave me Superman energy I was working 12-14 hours every day plus a hour and a half of Crossfit in the afternoons. I found opiate addiction made me very functional (non functional)

But when the pain clinic cuts you off you are FUCKED then. thats when you go to doing dumb shit to avoid that withdrawal.... feel like you got the flu- it's terrible
Guess I should have checked the thread before I hit reply. Could have saved myself a few minutes of my life. You sir, might want to go back to square one and read the posting rules. I'll provide a link for you. Study it in front of a mirror before you call anyone else Mr. Johnny Internet Fuckface.

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Vital-MX-Posting-Rules,48…
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5/20/2016 11:49am
KAWI642 wrote:
and never judge another human being until you've walked a mile in his shoes!!! Just Love em anyway.... We all are flawed human beings. Lot's of...
and never judge another human being until you've walked a mile in his shoes!!! Just Love em anyway.... We all are flawed human beings. Lot's of people say they want to help until it comes to actually doing it.

Man, I don't even know the Kid and have no skins in the game but I know what it feels like to be judged and treated like a POS because of being addicted and it perpetuates the self loathing, shame and guilt that addiction feeds off of.

3 most addictive Drugs 1. Heroin 2. Alcohol 3. Cocaine

Can you imagine how many people would instantly become a "alcoholic" if they had to resort to blackmarket means to drink???? facing the same stigma and disdain from society that the others do? read up on prohibition and why it was passed and why it didn't work.... sounds very similar to our Opiate problem of today. my 2 cents.
kkawboy14 wrote:
I thought crack was #1 in being addictive and to break away from?
KAWI642 wrote:
Honestly I think it depends on the individual. To me Cocaine is by far the hardest to kick.... Im a speed freak though. Every addict has...
Honestly I think it depends on the individual. To me Cocaine is by far the hardest to kick.... Im a speed freak though.
Every addict has their "drug of choice" the one that flips the switch. to them it's the most addictive. Alcohol is a monster too. IMO worse opiates when full grown. Opiates will kill your ass deader than a doorknob.


Most of these judgmental, negative ass wipes don't realize Motocross is an addiction too---- releases the same chemicals as cocaine. Anyone ever spent money they didn't have to race?? anyone ever beg borrow and steal to get that new bike? new tires? sounds kinda like addict behavior. I spent 5 years addicted to extreme fitness.... worked out so hard eventually jacked my back so bad that I can barely get out of bed some days. MX is a helluva drug!! love that rush!!!
I had watched a documentary one time that said that the average addiction to heroin (I believe it was heroin) was 3 cycles and you're hooked which was the shortest average of any drugs. You're right that it varies from person to person. Some use crack once and are hooked. But I'm sure the same can be said about heroin also.

I'm not sure that we should be comparing an MX "addiction" to heroin addiction though.
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newmann wrote:
Guess I should have checked the thread before I hit reply. Could have saved myself a few minutes of my life. You sir, might want to...
Guess I should have checked the thread before I hit reply. Could have saved myself a few minutes of my life. You sir, might want to go back to square one and read the posting rules. I'll provide a link for you. Study it in front of a mirror before you call anyone else Mr. Johnny Internet Fuckface.

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Vital-MX-Posting-Rules,48…
Thanks Newman,
I was trying not to post anything n response to the people that keep posting stupid responses. I'm not sure why some people feel the need to personally attack others on this site, over nonsense. I grew up with Heroine addicts as parents and my whole family had one addiction after another during my childhood. I have a lot of knowledge about addiction and alcoholism, but I don't feel the need to post about it on a motocross forum.

On another note... I have known Nico Izzy since he was on an 80. My son raced with Nico from the 7-11 85cc class thru the A class. They were team mates on the Suzuki amateur team in '06-'07, but were never very friendly with each other. Nico had the better ride and was faster than my son on any given day, but I still hope for Nico's sake, that he can pull it together, before it's too late. I've lost many family members and friends to addiction. Pulling for you Nico.....
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5/20/2016 2:19pm
KAWI642 wrote:
Boom? how old are you , 12? Hey look!! Mr Johnny Internet Fukface just flexed his monster intellect !!! I'm not even going to try to...
Boom? how old are you , 12? Hey look!! Mr Johnny Internet Fukface just flexed his monster intellect !!! I'm not even going to try to reason with you as the concept and theory I was referring to is over your head. Remind me of my wife - will argue to the death even when she's dead wrong. You no drug addict brutha - when you been there you would never make such a dickfaced comment about on of you!! When you snort a house, cars, wife and 75 k up your nose in a year come talk to me.

Yes, if you eliminate 4 +6 then i can say you find examples at every track in the country particularly that pesky little Loretta Lynn money racket. Those pitiful (i was one of them) bastards spend every dime, moment and energy to get to that God forsaken 100 degree hellhole every year. Biggest tourist trap in the Country - well done MX Sports!! lol

Divorces, financial ruin, pain and misery is the end result of a lot of those stories not to mention little Johnny Brotocross is hooked on pain pills from breaking 26 bones from 5-14 . I hate it but I love it.

As far as # 6 I started 2 companies from scratch in 2013 and both were making money in month 3 all the while snorting anywhere from 6-12 Oxycontin 30 mgs a day. They gave me Superman energy I was working 12-14 hours every day plus a hour and a half of Crossfit in the afternoons. I found opiate addiction made me very functional (non functional)

But when the pain clinic cuts you off you are FUCKED then. thats when you go to doing dumb shit to avoid that withdrawal.... feel like you got the flu- it's terrible
You seem very angry with the world. Dude, you need Jesus.
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5/20/2016 2:32pm
KAWI642 wrote:
Boom? how old are you , 12? Hey look!! Mr Johnny Internet Fukface just flexed his monster intellect !!! I'm not even going to try to...
Boom? how old are you , 12? Hey look!! Mr Johnny Internet Fukface just flexed his monster intellect !!! I'm not even going to try to reason with you as the concept and theory I was referring to is over your head. Remind me of my wife - will argue to the death even when she's dead wrong. You no drug addict brutha - when you been there you would never make such a dickfaced comment about on of you!! When you snort a house, cars, wife and 75 k up your nose in a year come talk to me.

Yes, if you eliminate 4 +6 then i can say you find examples at every track in the country particularly that pesky little Loretta Lynn money racket. Those pitiful (i was one of them) bastards spend every dime, moment and energy to get to that God forsaken 100 degree hellhole every year. Biggest tourist trap in the Country - well done MX Sports!! lol

Divorces, financial ruin, pain and misery is the end result of a lot of those stories not to mention little Johnny Brotocross is hooked on pain pills from breaking 26 bones from 5-14 . I hate it but I love it.

As far as # 6 I started 2 companies from scratch in 2013 and both were making money in month 3 all the while snorting anywhere from 6-12 Oxycontin 30 mgs a day. They gave me Superman energy I was working 12-14 hours every day plus a hour and a half of Crossfit in the afternoons. I found opiate addiction made me very functional (non functional)

But when the pain clinic cuts you off you are FUCKED then. thats when you go to doing dumb shit to avoid that withdrawal.... feel like you got the flu- it's terrible
So you are bragging about putting $75k up your nose on the Internet? Go be a belly acher somewhere else. You did it to yourself, stop being mad at the world.
5/20/2016 3:13pm
I dont like posting on this stuff, nut Nico has not relapsed.. the Team and Nico had a difference of opinion.

I'm not saying he will or won't relapse. But as of a few days ago he was doing well.
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I dont like posting on this stuff, nut Nico has not relapsed.. the Team and Nico had a difference of opinion. I'm not saying he will...
I dont like posting on this stuff, nut Nico has not relapsed.. the Team and Nico had a difference of opinion.

I'm not saying he will or won't relapse. But as of a few days ago he was doing well.
I hope he has adequate support, and allows the right people to surround him...
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It must be tough to mix treatment with any other arrangement (in this case, training and racing). In every arrangement, there are going to be differences of opinion. In a "normal" situation, they can be overcome fairly easily but when you are trying to treat addiction in parallel, that has to be really tough. Logic tells me that the littlest disagreement can potentially derail the treatment and recovery. I certainly don't know anything about treatment so I could be wrong but I do know a lot of people who have been and it seems extremely focused on treatment and treatment only. What SRR is doing seems unique.

Regardless, The guys at SRR are trying to provide help to people who may feel helpless and that's to be commended. Hopefully it all works out.
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I dont like posting on this stuff, nut Nico has not relapsed.. the Team and Nico had a difference of opinion. I'm not saying he will...
I dont like posting on this stuff, nut Nico has not relapsed.. the Team and Nico had a difference of opinion.

I'm not saying he will or won't relapse. But as of a few days ago he was doing well.
Imagine that!! Good for Nico !!! Prove all these Haters wrong!!!
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5/20/2016 4:48pm
I dont like posting on this stuff, nut Nico has not relapsed.. the Team and Nico had a difference of opinion. I'm not saying he will...
I dont like posting on this stuff, nut Nico has not relapsed.. the Team and Nico had a difference of opinion.

I'm not saying he will or won't relapse. But as of a few days ago he was doing well.
davistld01 wrote:
I hope he has adequate support, and allows the right people to surround him...
So even when you proved wrong in order to save face you throw a "but" I hope he has support or he will relapse.. That's what you said without saying it. I wasn't bragging about anything I was telling you that people are addicts and sometimes you never know it. You basically said any addict is in employable can't hold a job etc..... You don't know shit FUCK YOU and FUCK the rest of you that know every thing. NICO JUST SERVED YALL!!! WHOOP WHOOP!! bring your asses to Virginia and run those dick suckers in person and I will be glad to give you a lesson in humility upside your heads!!!
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5/20/2016 5:04pm
I dont like posting on this stuff, nut Nico has not relapsed.. the Team and Nico had a difference of opinion. I'm not saying he will...
I dont like posting on this stuff, nut Nico has not relapsed.. the Team and Nico had a difference of opinion.

I'm not saying he will or won't relapse. But as of a few days ago he was doing well.
Don't speak for the "team" please.
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5/20/2016 5:07pm Edited Date/Time 5/20/2016 5:08pm
Just shoot him in the ass cheek with some ER Narcan (Brand name Vivitrol??) and call it a day. Assuming opiates are the only problem.
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5/20/2016 5:12pm


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kzizok wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/05/20/136002/s1200_image.jpg[/img]


Yep.
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5/20/2016 5:20pm Edited Date/Time 5/20/2016 5:22pm
kzizok wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/05/20/136002/s1200_image.jpg[/img]


ledger wrote:
Yep.
Agreed.

People are passionate about their addictions.

My sister is a nurse at a medical detox facility and rehab. She says Alcohol/Severe Benzo WD is the worst hands down period.

Opiates second, but the physical is only 7 days, mentally who knows.

Cocaine/Meth just cut em off. Give em counseling.



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5/20/2016 5:26pm Edited Date/Time 5/20/2016 5:33pm
Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached a point in this thread where it is safe to say not if but when (click, dumbgeon)

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