better hope Viacomm doesn't own SpeedTV

Edited Date/Time 1/23/2012 7:42am
There's a contract that hasn't been signed for Time Warner cable subscribers.

As of Jan 1, we're losing 18 channels... all popular ones!
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12/31/2008 12:50am
Nope, Viacom doesn't own SPEED.
12/31/2008 5:33am
That's good news!

I'm losing MTV, Spike, TVLand, VH1, and a bunch of others until this contract dispute is over. I may even have to drop cable all together and get satellite... only time will tell.

I would have hated to miss A1 if this isn't over by then!
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12/31/2008 6:49am
Switch to DirecTV and pass on Time Warner. You will like it.

SPEED is owned by FOX.
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I just realized this affects me, as Brighthouse Cable is Time Warner

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12/31/2008 7:02am
Yep, this really sucks. Lots of UFC on Spike. Have to call the cable company.
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12/31/2008 7:04am
is charter owned by time warner
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12/31/2008 7:29am Edited Date/Time 12/31/2008 7:31am
There's a contract that hasn't been signed for Time Warner cable subscribers.

As of Jan 1, we're losing 18 channels... all popular ones!
Whats th deal? I saw that yesterday also, are they trying to get more money?They sent me a letter last week saying they are raising prices,figures.
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Cable sucks

DirectTV has 130 hi-def channels and growing, better audio, better picture on the non hi-def channels.
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YZ441 wrote:
is charter owned by time warner
Nope. But Charter is also in some carriage contract negotiations on a smaller scale (a couple local channel affiliates), but not in your area.
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12/31/2008 8:36am
I would miss Spike, but thats about it. The same stuff on Spike is on Youtube.
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12/31/2008 8:56am
Holigan wrote:
Switch to DirecTV and pass on Time Warner. You will like it.

SPEED is owned by FOX.
I am stuck with Time Warner.. BOOOOOOO
12/31/2008 9:47am
in a nutshell, Viacom isn't making enough on commercials, so they want to charge the cable companies more money.

Cable companies are speaking on our behalf and telling Viacom to screw off, we're not paying you more.

I don't know what to think, I believe if they raised our bill .45 cents a month this would all go away... i do like that Time Warner is taking a stand though... but for how long?
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DirecTv
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The channels that would be affected are: Comedy Central, CMT: Pure Country, Logo, Palladia, MTV, MTV 2, MTV Hits, MTV Jams, MTV Tr3s, Nickelodeon, Noggin, Nick 2, Nicktoons, Spike, The N, TV Land, VH1, VH1 Classic, and VH1 Soul.
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I got so sick of cable and satelite companies that I said screw it and went back to rabbit ears and commercial TV. The cool part is that now most of the commercial programing is being broadcast in HD so my picture quality is actually better than it was when I was paying for TV. Instead of playing musical chairs with each years SX and MX programing, I just download the shows off mininova.
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CamP wrote:
I got so sick of cable and satelite companies that I said screw it and went back to rabbit ears and commercial TV. The cool part...
I got so sick of cable and satelite companies that I said screw it and went back to rabbit ears and commercial TV. The cool part is that now most of the commercial programing is being broadcast in HD so my picture quality is actually better than it was when I was paying for TV. Instead of playing musical chairs with each years SX and MX programing, I just download the shows off mininova.
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quick question: i dont have warner or brighton, but comcast. i dont watch any of those channels except Spike when they play the 007 days of bond....if those 18 channels do go away, do you think warner and brighton are going to decrease your bill because its a package deal and now the package will be less channels. or do you think they will tack on a different 18 channels...? i say they will lose the 18 channels and keep charging you for the whole amount of the package
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They have to work it out. The Viacom networks would lose hundreds of millions in commercial advertising if they lose Time Warner's 16,000,000 subscribers. Time Warner will lose most of their subscribers and their business if they don't offer Viacom's networks. It is what we call "JAMP" - just a math problem.

Either way, A1 is live on SPEED on Saturday!!!
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12/31/2008 2:21pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 9:42pm
I remember when satellite was a 10 foot C band dish.


You could get channels Ala Carte for 19.95 a year each.


I had 5 channels plus the FREE Local channels that beamed to satellite. 100 bucks a year.


I had 4 Free locals, PBS Free, ESPN, 2, and Classic(that included all 3 then) Speed TV TNN and TBS(came together)

and TWC. Plus a slew of other free ones.


I think at the time MTV, VH1 was 12 bucks a year and CMT for country music was 9.99.


AND Late at night, there were FREE XXX Porn channels.


TV sucks now.


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Holigan wrote:
They have to work it out. The Viacom networks would lose hundreds of millions in commercial advertising if they lose Time Warner's 16,000,000 subscribers. Time Warner...
They have to work it out. The Viacom networks would lose hundreds of millions in commercial advertising if they lose Time Warner's 16,000,000 subscribers. Time Warner will lose most of their subscribers and their business if they don't offer Viacom's networks. It is what we call "JAMP" - just a math problem.

Either way, A1 is live on SPEED on Saturday!!!
Exactly.
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Time Warner Cable and Viacom reach deal

By RYAN NAKASHIMA – 2 hours ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Millions of Time Warner Cable customers won't lose their access to MTV and 18 other channels after the cable giant reached an agreement early Thursday with media conglomerate Viacom Inc.

The two sides, citing disagreement over fee hikes, had threatened a damaging blackout at a minute past midnight Thursday that would have cut off shows such as "SpongeBob SquarePants" and "The Colbert Report" to about 15.7 million subscribers.

"We are pleased that our customers will continue to be able to watch the customers will continue to be able to watch the programming they enjoy on MTV Networks," said Glenn Britt, president and CEO of Time Warner Cable Inc. "We are sorry they had to endure a day of public disagreement as we worked through this negotiation."

Terms of the deal were not disclosed. Details must still be finalized over the next few days, the companies said.

Viacom president and CEO Philippe Dauman said the company was happy a deal was struck. Viacom had mounted an advertising onslaught warning customers of the possible blackout, taking out ads in major newspapers and Web sites from The New York Times and TVGuide.com featuring a tearful "Dora the Explorer" crying and clinging to her monkey pal, Boots.

"Why is Dora crying?" the ad read. "Tonight you will lose Nickelodeon and 18 other channels from your TV." It then prompted people to call their cable company to complain.

The dispute would have affected some 13.3 million Time Warner Cable subscribers, mainly in New York state, the Carolinas, Ohio, Southern California and Texas; and 2.4 million customers of Bright House Networks in Michigan, Indiana, California, Alabama and Florida.

Time Warner Chief Executive Glenn Britt on Wednesday had called Viacom's demand for a 12 percent increase in fees — an extra $39 million on top of the estimated $300 million it pays Viacom annually — extortion and outrageous given the recession. Viacom countered that the requested increase amounted to an extra $2.76 annually per subscriber.

Viacom had argued that Americans spend a fifth of their TV time watching Viacom shows but its fees made up less than 2.5 percent of the Time Warner cable bill.

Spokeswoman Kelly McAndrew said that despite ranking high in the ratings, Viacom's cable networks' average daily license fee was 65 percent lower than that of networks run by The Walt Disney Co., News Corp.'s Fox, Time Warner Inc.'s Turner Broadcasting System and Discovery Communications Inc.

Analyst Michael Nathanson with Bernstein Research said Viacom's channels had been "underpriced relative to their peers."

Public carriage fee disputes of this scale between a programmer and a cable operator are not that common, especially when there's a threat of a blackout, said Derek Baine, senior analyst at SNL Kagan in Monterey, Calif. Typically, both sides agree on contract extensions as they negotiate on terms, he said, and any blackouts don't last long because TV operators get calls from outraged customers.

One prominent carriage fee fight in recent years was in 2004, between Viacom and EchoStar, the former name of Dish Network Corp. Shows were dropped for two days.

In October, Time Warner Cable wrestled with LIN TV Corp., which operates local TV stations affiliated with NBC, CBS, Fox and CW. But this time, Time Warner Cable faced Viacom, the largest cable programmer, not a small independent with a handful of channels.

The channels in the dispute were Comedy Central, Logo, Palladia, MTV, MTV 2, MTV Hits, MTV Jams, MTV Tr3s, Nickelodeon, Noggin, Nick 2, Nicktoons, Spike, The N, TV Land, VH1, VH1 Classic, VH1 Soul and CMT: Pure Country.

Viacom shares rose 88 cents, or 4.5 percent, to close at $20.12 on Wednesday, while Time Warner Cable shares fell 31 cents, or 1.4 percent, to $21.45.

AP Business Writer Deborah Yao in Philadelphia contributed to this report.

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