AER48 issues?

The Norrman 2/9/2016 6:01am
2/9/2016 6:01am
Motofinne wrote:
My dealer said that there is a seal/oring that needs to be replaced, he will have the new one next week and he will change it...
My dealer said that there is a seal/oring that needs to be replaced, he will have the new one next week and he will change it. It should solve the problem.
Hello...Just replace the x-ring will not solve the problem...unless the new x-ring is an updated one from WP. I think the original x-ring hasn´t the right specifications because from my test in the frezze and the fridge will make the ring very stiff.

Other brands I have tested , with the same dimensions and geometri, did not behaved like the original one, thoose rings were still quite soft.
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Motofinne 2/9/2016 6:10am
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It is an updated one!
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keith101 2/9/2016 6:58am
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Everyone should now feel more confident knowing that air forks are held up by a $.10 o-ring.
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mx317 2/9/2016 8:24am
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Yeah and your piston pin is held in by a $1 clip, footpegs held on by a 50 cent cotter pin, and gears are held in place with a $3 circlip so what's your point?

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mmcmx 2/9/2016 10:31am
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I asked him again today. He already has the new seals, haven't failed again since then.
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Kulpa 2/9/2016 10:56am
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I had a issue with my ktm aer48 forks with cold - while riding some oil leaked out and it started to clatter heavily on hard landings, did not collapse though. My dealer actually told me before that in cold conditions I will have problems with the forks and also battery.
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moto0852 2/9/2016 11:36am
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mx317 wrote:
Yeah and your piston pin is held in by a $1 clip, footpegs held on by a 50 cent cotter pin, and gears are held in...
Yeah and your piston pin is held in by a $1 clip, footpegs held on by a 50 cent cotter pin, and gears are held in place with a $3 circlip so what's your point?
How dare you sir! Coming in here and using logic and common sense.
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tek14 2/9/2016 11:42am
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I would not recommend use it below 10c temps.
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mx317 wrote:
Yeah and your piston pin is held in by a $1 clip, footpegs held on by a 50 cent cotter pin, and gears are held in...
Yeah and your piston pin is held in by a $1 clip, footpegs held on by a 50 cent cotter pin, and gears are held in place with a $3 circlip so what's your point?
I LOLed
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Fearo 2/12/2016 2:27am
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modern technology BRO. SO much better than spring forks...

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Crush 2/12/2016 3:23am
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Wow. What happened?
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Motofinne 2/12/2016 3:30am
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The same thing that happens to all AER48 forks when you ride when its minus degrees celcius. There is a o-ring that fails when the weather is freezing, but there is a new updated o-ring/seal that should arrive next week according to my dealer.
Trickassmarks 2/12/2016 4:44am
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I can't wait for my 17. Where i live in Australia winter is 15°c minimum.
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Bruce372 2/12/2016 6:58am
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Does this mean riders with this fork won't be able to race the north pole motocross series?
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Myke 2/12/2016 8:13am
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Bruce372 wrote:
Does this mean riders with this fork won't be able to race the north pole motocross series?
Looks that way.....
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Fearo 2/12/2016 9:17am
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I haven seen 2 KTM AER48 fork collapses with my own eyes at 20+ degrees Celsius, so there's that.
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I can't wait for my 17. Where i live in Australia winter is 15°c minimum.
Yes but if you do need to put a jacket on, there is a procedure where you have to warm the forks for 5 seconds prior to use below 15 degrees C that brings the pressures up to normal operating levels. Above that they will start, sorry function as per normal. I can't tell you any more than this because there has been no official how to video or technical bulletin.
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Digger29 2/12/2016 10:58am
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Jesus....that's not good.. :-( I'm so glad that I've got the new cone valves for my new 16 FE450

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keith101 2/12/2016 11:15am
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mx317 wrote:
Yeah and your piston pin is held in by a $1 clip, footpegs held on by a 50 cent cotter pin, and gears are held in...
Yeah and your piston pin is held in by a $1 clip, footpegs held on by a 50 cent cotter pin, and gears are held in place with a $3 circlip so what's your point?
You should probably think twice about replying on a topic you know nothing about as your example are apples to oranges.

In this case, genius, air forks are help up by a simple, low cost seal - e.g they are 100% responsible for holding air and keeping the forks up. If it fails in any way, you have a catastrophic issue.

In contrast, your footpeg and gears example are poor comparisons and show how clueless you actually are. The cotter pin and cir-clip examples aren't "supporting" devices, unlike the air seal in air forks. If you lose your cotter pin, your footpeg won't immediately fall off, but over time it will probably, but hopefully you understand the differences in your poor examples and just plain poor rationale.

Pay attention to the images posted here so you can educate yourself on the differences before you tell the wife how smart you think you are.

Cheers!
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mx317 wrote:
Yeah and your piston pin is held in by a $1 clip, footpegs held on by a 50 cent cotter pin, and gears are held in...
Yeah and your piston pin is held in by a $1 clip, footpegs held on by a 50 cent cotter pin, and gears are held in place with a $3 circlip so what's your point?
keith101 wrote:
You should probably think twice about replying on a topic you know nothing about as your example are apples to oranges. In this case, genius, air...
You should probably think twice about replying on a topic you know nothing about as your example are apples to oranges.

In this case, genius, air forks are help up by a simple, low cost seal - e.g they are 100% responsible for holding air and keeping the forks up. If it fails in any way, you have a catastrophic issue.

In contrast, your footpeg and gears example are poor comparisons and show how clueless you actually are. The cotter pin and cir-clip examples aren't "supporting" devices, unlike the air seal in air forks. If you lose your cotter pin, your footpeg won't immediately fall off, but over time it will probably, but hopefully you understand the differences in your poor examples and just plain poor rationale.

Pay attention to the images posted here so you can educate yourself on the differences before you tell the wife how smart you think you are.

Cheers!
Everyone can't take things so literal. There's many parts on the bike that are held together by a part that cost cents. How much do you think your master link on a chain cost? How much do you your hose clamps cost? All of these parts could lead to catastrophic issues as well.

Unfortunately the AER48 fork is getting the bugs worked out, not a big deal. IMO I'd rather the moto industry take chances to come up with new advanced technology than just sitting here riding 10 year old designs and scared to move forward.

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ratonmacias 2/12/2016 12:14pm
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mx317 wrote:
Yeah and your piston pin is held in by a $1 clip, footpegs held on by a 50 cent cotter pin, and gears are held in...
Yeah and your piston pin is held in by a $1 clip, footpegs held on by a 50 cent cotter pin, and gears are held in place with a $3 circlip so what's your point?
keith101 wrote:
You should probably think twice about replying on a topic you know nothing about as your example are apples to oranges. In this case, genius, air...
You should probably think twice about replying on a topic you know nothing about as your example are apples to oranges.

In this case, genius, air forks are help up by a simple, low cost seal - e.g they are 100% responsible for holding air and keeping the forks up. If it fails in any way, you have a catastrophic issue.

In contrast, your footpeg and gears example are poor comparisons and show how clueless you actually are. The cotter pin and cir-clip examples aren't "supporting" devices, unlike the air seal in air forks. If you lose your cotter pin, your footpeg won't immediately fall off, but over time it will probably, but hopefully you understand the differences in your poor examples and just plain poor rationale.

Pay attention to the images posted here so you can educate yourself on the differences before you tell the wife how smart you think you are.

Cheers!
CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
Everyone can't take things so literal. There's many parts on the bike that are held together by a part that cost cents. How much do you...
Everyone can't take things so literal. There's many parts on the bike that are held together by a part that cost cents. How much do you think your master link on a chain cost? How much do you your hose clamps cost? All of these parts could lead to catastrophic issues as well.

Unfortunately the AER48 fork is getting the bugs worked out, not a big deal. IMO I'd rather the moto industry take chances to come up with new advanced technology than just sitting here riding 10 year old designs and scared to move forward.

i would prefer not being the test rider.

test longer and bring a reliable product.

after getting an 02 250 4 stroke enduro im not getting any ktm bikes ever
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ratonmacias wrote:
i would prefer not being the test rider. test longer and bring a reliable product. after getting an 02 250 4 stroke enduro im not getting...
i would prefer not being the test rider.

test longer and bring a reliable product.

after getting an 02 250 4 stroke enduro im not getting any ktm bikes ever
I try to stay away from 1st year models, the 17 will be allright.
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Lately my bug is 10 to 20 year old japanese motocrossers. currently i own a 2004 cr 250
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mx317 2/12/2016 4:02pm
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mx317 wrote:
Yeah and your piston pin is held in by a $1 clip, footpegs held on by a 50 cent cotter pin, and gears are held in...
Yeah and your piston pin is held in by a $1 clip, footpegs held on by a 50 cent cotter pin, and gears are held in place with a $3 circlip so what's your point?
keith101 wrote:
You should probably think twice about replying on a topic you know nothing about as your example are apples to oranges. In this case, genius, air...
You should probably think twice about replying on a topic you know nothing about as your example are apples to oranges.

In this case, genius, air forks are help up by a simple, low cost seal - e.g they are 100% responsible for holding air and keeping the forks up. If it fails in any way, you have a catastrophic issue.

In contrast, your footpeg and gears example are poor comparisons and show how clueless you actually are. The cotter pin and cir-clip examples aren't "supporting" devices, unlike the air seal in air forks. If you lose your cotter pin, your footpeg won't immediately fall off, but over time it will probably, but hopefully you understand the differences in your poor examples and just plain poor rationale.

Pay attention to the images posted here so you can educate yourself on the differences before you tell the wife how smart you think you are.

Cheers!
Oh my, you sure told me! First lesson for free. If you are going to be a smartass, first you have to be smart. If you are not smart, you are just an ass.

Cheers ass!!
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keith101 2/12/2016 4:46pm
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mx317 wrote:
Yeah and your piston pin is held in by a $1 clip, footpegs held on by a 50 cent cotter pin, and gears are held in...
Yeah and your piston pin is held in by a $1 clip, footpegs held on by a 50 cent cotter pin, and gears are held in place with a $3 circlip so what's your point?
keith101 wrote:
You should probably think twice about replying on a topic you know nothing about as your example are apples to oranges. In this case, genius, air...
You should probably think twice about replying on a topic you know nothing about as your example are apples to oranges.

In this case, genius, air forks are help up by a simple, low cost seal - e.g they are 100% responsible for holding air and keeping the forks up. If it fails in any way, you have a catastrophic issue.

In contrast, your footpeg and gears example are poor comparisons and show how clueless you actually are. The cotter pin and cir-clip examples aren't "supporting" devices, unlike the air seal in air forks. If you lose your cotter pin, your footpeg won't immediately fall off, but over time it will probably, but hopefully you understand the differences in your poor examples and just plain poor rationale.

Pay attention to the images posted here so you can educate yourself on the differences before you tell the wife how smart you think you are.

Cheers!
mx317 wrote:
Oh my, you sure told me! First lesson for free. If you are going to be a smartass, first you have to be smart. If you...
Oh my, you sure told me! First lesson for free. If you are going to be a smartass, first you have to be smart. If you are not smart, you are just an ass.

Cheers ass!!
oh my, hurt ego again?
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keith101 wrote:
oh my, hurt ego again?
Quite often, you do come across as a dick.
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keith101 wrote:
You should probably think twice about replying on a topic you know nothing about as your example are apples to oranges. In this case, genius, air...
You should probably think twice about replying on a topic you know nothing about as your example are apples to oranges.

In this case, genius, air forks are help up by a simple, low cost seal - e.g they are 100% responsible for holding air and keeping the forks up. If it fails in any way, you have a catastrophic issue.

In contrast, your footpeg and gears example are poor comparisons and show how clueless you actually are. The cotter pin and cir-clip examples aren't "supporting" devices, unlike the air seal in air forks. If you lose your cotter pin, your footpeg won't immediately fall off, but over time it will probably, but hopefully you understand the differences in your poor examples and just plain poor rationale.

Pay attention to the images posted here so you can educate yourself on the differences before you tell the wife how smart you think you are.

Cheers!
So if a circlip lets go it would not be catastrophic? I guess you have no idea what a circlip does...
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keith101 2/12/2016 5:48pm
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oh my, hurt ego again?
ML512 wrote:
Quite often, you do come across as a dick.
As do you my friend. As do you.

Was my original comment so inflammatory?
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Bruce372 2/12/2016 5:53pm
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It's amazing how many people get bent out of shape about air forks.

I wonder how many of them have ridden them? I well setup pair, because its not like any production spring forks have had issues.

I've only worked on one set off SSS forks, and all the inner plastic pistons were destroyed and it took the whole forks out and nearly the rider. It cost quite a lot on after market parts to fix them.
Zip-tyducttape 3/7/2016 2:47pm
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Now that a lot of people are getting their bikes in the states, let's get back to some productive comments. Anyone with their new bikes have the issue and has the dealer taken care of it? Anyone seeing any recalls for anything including the O-rings? I will likely get my bike this week and want to try and get things done up front.

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