Jason Thomas look on the 'Stewart got Lapped' Issue.

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It's clear neither side wants to give an inch.

The most amazing thing about this is .... three days after the incident apparently NO ONE has been able to interview James and ask him straight up what happened. JT$ has plenty of cred but why do we have to settle for him trying to explain James actions.

Is it asking too much for some of the usual moto journalists to simply ring James up and ask him?

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This deserves a full on NCIS investigation..Was JT¢ ever as fast as James?...

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"I was remarkably efficient at going a lap down." JT you are my god damn hero this is gold
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race wrote:
It's clear neither side wants to give an inch. The most amazing thing about this is .... three days after the incident apparently NO ONE has...

It's clear neither side wants to give an inch.

The most amazing thing about this is .... three days after the incident apparently NO ONE has been able to interview James and ask him straight up what happened. JT$ has plenty of cred but why do we have to settle for him trying to explain James actions.

Is it asking too much for some of the usual moto journalists to simply ring James up and ask him?

check the new issue of cycle news.
3/1/2016 4:10pm
Big Lenny wrote:
This deserves a full on NCIS investigation..Was JT¢ ever as fast as James?...
Hmm I wonder what the brilliant reasoning behind this question is. Let me guess, JT$ isn't as fast as James, therefore his opinion on this matter is irrelevant, am I right?
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3/1/2016 4:20pm Edited Date/Time 3/1/2016 5:11pm
If there was ever an expert on getting lapped it would be Thomas. He had that shit down to a science. He qualified for over 100 main events and was lapped in all but 3.
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Hmm I wonder what the brilliant reasoning behind this question is. Let me guess, JT$ isn't as fast as James, therefore his opinion on this matter...
Hmm I wonder what the brilliant reasoning behind this question is. Let me guess, JT$ isn't as fast as James, therefore his opinion on this matter is irrelevant, am I right?
Yep. Only Carmichael, Reed, Villopoto, Dungey, and Roczen are allowed to comment on Lenny's boyfriend.

EVERYONE ELSE SHUT THE FUCK UP
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Big Lenny wrote:
This deserves a full on NCIS investigation..Was JT¢ ever as fast as James?...
Hmm I wonder what the brilliant reasoning behind this question is. Let me guess, JT$ isn't as fast as James, therefore his opinion on this matter...
Hmm I wonder what the brilliant reasoning behind this question is. Let me guess, JT$ isn't as fast as James, therefore his opinion on this matter is irrelevant, am I right?
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Great article, forgiving JS7. I am on the same boat.

As I mentioned on Saturday night, I think there are so many factors involved in this incident :
1. Inexperience to get lapped, yes it interfered after half a lap...
2. But also 20 months off = I think he was just fully focused on racing forward, and didnt see the flags immediately
3. After 18 laps & almost 20 months off, tiredness can play a part in not looking flags while racing, more the track
4. First track East: the track developed big ruts, mentally more challenging/less forgiving than really hard pack
5. Until late we do not see the flaggers making a huge effort to be seen (at least that is what I saw from video)
6. Which includes the white and blue flags put at the same time, difficult to see it at the speed they go (no I will not put 1 point about the 4 stroke vs. 2 stroke Smile )
7. The first half of the season has been dominated by RD; perhaps JS7 was thinking there was no battle, just RD with a 5 seconds lead and that it would be ok
8. JS7 was indeed not willing to lose another position, racing for 14th may already not that fun for him
9. He was probably not giving it too easy to Dungey either since A1's other racing incident
10. Musquin's inexperience to lap in this class, so the millisecond decision to triple whereas he could have doubled / tripled, safer but it could have caused a crash too (if Dungey was tripling) or he could have been passed
11. JS7 also lapped a ton of riders and had to change his lines, he probably thought it was ok until the incident
12. One of the most technical sections this year ; so many top guns doing different rythms here
13. Partially caused by a soft corner that needed to be rebuilt very often. Very technical.

Lots of factors in this incident, and based on how ugly it could have been, that was scary, I was just glad all the riders mentioned were healthy and able to keep rolling (for Dungey) and building (for JS7 and Musquin). It happened at the wrong time, which caused a lot of discussion, but it was for me just a racing incident.
3/1/2016 4:46pm
Big Lenny wrote:
No..
Oh, then I guess you were just genuinely wondering if JT was ever as fast as Stewart... my bad. To answer your question then, no, JT$ was not as fast as James Stewart...
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race wrote:
It's clear neither side wants to give an inch. The most amazing thing about this is .... three days after the incident apparently NO ONE has...

It's clear neither side wants to give an inch.

The most amazing thing about this is .... three days after the incident apparently NO ONE has been able to interview James and ask him straight up what happened. JT$ has plenty of cred but why do we have to settle for him trying to explain James actions.

Is it asking too much for some of the usual moto journalists to simply ring James up and ask him?

swtwtwtw wrote:
check the new issue of cycle news.
The best I can find on their site is :

"Dungey pulled up on his teammate multiple times, but he never made any aggressive moves. It appeared Musquin was headed for his career-first win… but just after the white flag came out, the KTM duo soon came up on lapped rider James Stewart, who appeared not to heed the blue flag that was waving alongside the white one. Stewart continued his way in the main line, making no attempt to get out of the way for the leaders, and as a result, Musquin was caught off guard and didn’t get a good drive out of the turn. He came up a little short as he attempted to triple out of the corner, which sent him bobbling and swapping through the rest of the straight. Stewart sailed up the inside, and meanwhile Dungey was barely able to stay clear of Musquin, who fumbled his way off the side of the track. Fortunately he was able to keep the bike upright and complete the rest of the lap, but he couldn’t stop Dungey from taking the win.

Second place marked a career-best for Musquin. The Frenchman showed a lot of class on the podium, commenting that he was happy with his night and called it a good race but he couldn’t help but find a sour note in his podium finish.

“James Stewart was in the way and I just got so scared of him. I just went sideways because I heard him coming,” Musquin explained. “He was a lap down and I’m really mad right now because I feel like the win was for me. Even with that mistake, it was still a great race and I’m happy for the team. Second is my best result ever.”
"

If someone has more from the actual CN issue let's hear it.


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lostboy819 wrote:
He may have thought he had slowed down enough and was wondering why in the hell they had not passed him yet. ;) Stewarts slowed down...
He may have thought he had slowed down enough and was wondering why in the hell they had not passed him yet. Wink
Stewarts slowed down pace is faster than most people full on race pace.
huck wrote:
Obviously his 'race pace' was slow enough to be about 52 seconds behind the leaders. BTW, I'm so glad we have another thread on this same...
Obviously his 'race pace' was slow enough to be about 52 seconds behind the leaders.


BTW, I'm so glad we have another thread on this same topic. I wonder if anything new will be posted? lol
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lostboy819 wrote:
I am sure he has the speed,its he just doesn't have the stamina to push more than a few laps.
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Hes got the stamina to push down a few Krispy Kremes tho am I right
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3/1/2016 7:03pm Edited Date/Time 3/1/2016 7:10pm
VET176 wrote:
Who is this JT character? Does he even race? Whistling Woohoo
He's that bloke with the ultimate "comb back" - a reverse to trumps 'comb over'!

JT's pretty good with his reportage' of our sport. But, that "comb back" is epic - is he going bald? I say, embrace your folicular retreat, JT$, if it's what you're faced with!

Views as regards to JS's riding put aside - hell, right there, you could have seen Team KTMs entire season go completely 'tits up' if Marvin and Dungey had hit. They dodged a bullet - well, a widespread, high load shottie charge - right there. Could have been so, so nasty.

As always, I'm mainly happy that SX carnage did not claim a few more riders.
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Hes got the stamina to push down a few Krispy Kremes tho am I right
Oh, you got me. I lost it on this one.Grinning Grinning Grinning
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race wrote:
It's clear neither side wants to give an inch. The most amazing thing about this is .... three days after the incident apparently NO ONE has...

It's clear neither side wants to give an inch.

The most amazing thing about this is .... three days after the incident apparently NO ONE has been able to interview James and ask him straight up what happened. JT$ has plenty of cred but why do we have to settle for him trying to explain James actions.

Is it asking too much for some of the usual moto journalists to simply ring James up and ask him?

swtwtwtw wrote:
check the new issue of cycle news.
race wrote:
The best I can find on their site is : "Dungey pulled up on his teammate multiple times, but he never made any aggressive moves. It...
The best I can find on their site is :

"Dungey pulled up on his teammate multiple times, but he never made any aggressive moves. It appeared Musquin was headed for his career-first win… but just after the white flag came out, the KTM duo soon came up on lapped rider James Stewart, who appeared not to heed the blue flag that was waving alongside the white one. Stewart continued his way in the main line, making no attempt to get out of the way for the leaders, and as a result, Musquin was caught off guard and didn’t get a good drive out of the turn. He came up a little short as he attempted to triple out of the corner, which sent him bobbling and swapping through the rest of the straight. Stewart sailed up the inside, and meanwhile Dungey was barely able to stay clear of Musquin, who fumbled his way off the side of the track. Fortunately he was able to keep the bike upright and complete the rest of the lap, but he couldn’t stop Dungey from taking the win.

Second place marked a career-best for Musquin. The Frenchman showed a lot of class on the podium, commenting that he was happy with his night and called it a good race but he couldn’t help but find a sour note in his podium finish.

“James Stewart was in the way and I just got so scared of him. I just went sideways because I heard him coming,” Musquin explained. “He was a lap down and I’m really mad right now because I feel like the win was for me. Even with that mistake, it was still a great race and I’m happy for the team. Second is my best result ever.”
"

If someone has more from the actual CN issue let's hear it.


page 49, "Blue Flag"
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cycle news page 49, "Blue Flag"--Stewart's take
3/1/2016 9:31pm
My take on this was that Stewart's ego wouldn't allow him to move over even if he was getting lapped on the last lap, especially to RD5 who basically ruined Stewart's season at A1.
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swtwtwtw wrote:
cycle news page 49, "Blue Flag"--Stewart's take
Obviously I do not possess the issue.

Perhaps you could fill us all in?

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You got me on that one Laughing Laughing Laughing
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lostboy819 wrote:
I am sure he has the speed,its he just doesn't have the stamina to push more than a few laps.
moto455va wrote:
Hes got the stamina to push down a few Krispy Kremes tho am I right
I could never hold that against anyone,after all Donuts are natures perfect food. I prefer Dunkin donuts myself. Cool
3/1/2016 11:56pm
swtwtwtw wrote:
cycle news page 49, "Blue Flag"--Stewart's take
race wrote:
Obviously I do not possess the issue.

Perhaps you could fill us all in?

SEE ARE125 wrote:
Wow the Cycle News article page 48 does have quotes from Stewart on Atlanta "lapper gate" !

It's about time to see JS7s personal reaction. How are not more magazines interviewing Stewart? I haven't seen Cycle News in a while but this is the 2nd time they seem to have a really good scoop (the last being the Canard vs FIM issue at practice a couple of weeks ago & now the only Stewart comments I've seen on lapper gate).



3/2/2016 1:31am
All I can say is it's a bloody shame that this isn't the battle for the lead on the last lap with Stew NOT a lap down.

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3/2/2016 5:42am
Musquin has had some tough breaks in the last several months. It would be nice to see him win one, or a few.

Why can't Thomas, or something else, talk to Stewart about what happened?
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3/2/2016 6:19am
I think we've heard enough opinions already.. Put it away please. Life goes on. Drama queens.
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3/2/2016 6:34am Edited Date/Time 3/2/2016 6:43am
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Great article .
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I love listening to JT and reading his columns. Smart guy with great insight.

I don't see it as James fault.

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