Tire changing stand and Tire changing tips

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Can anyone recommend a good tire changing stand??. I'm looking to get off the garage floor and make the process as painless as possible. Thanks Bros
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ProWorks Tyre Machine does the job for me, and it was only £50 ($70):

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for a long time i used an old steel chevy pick up wheel, now I use the motosport tire stand. Just about all stands like this are the same just have a different name attached to it. but i like this style because it keeps me off my knees.

http://www.motosport.com/motosport-tire-changing-stand
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Frodad78
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2/26/2016 9:27am Edited Date/Time 2/26/2016 9:27am
Do you guys weigh the stand down somehow? Looks like they could be a little top heavy? I'm referring to the tall ones.

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nah, i thought the same thing it looks like it would wobble but its really sturdy, you can put a foot on one of the legs if you need. they are made to be stepped on. I learned that you shouldn't really be fighting the tire enough to make it unstable. I use the stand 2 bead buddys and 2x 8-1/2in tire irons, and some watered down dawn dish soap and tires go on and off easy.
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I don't have a stand to make it easy, but I've gotten pretty good at changing tires without scratching up rims or wrecking stuff. The problem I have is inserting the tubes. Any secrets to ease this process (getting valve stem thru rim) without beating up my hands? Sorry for the hijack, but my hands looked like raw hamburger the other day after putting two new tires on.
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Frodad78
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No worries man, I've got 5 bikes that I need to be maintaining now and I've been farming out my tire changes in the past. Can't afford to do that anymore so the more tire changing tips the better!
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yak651 wrote:
I don't have a stand to make it easy, but I've gotten pretty good at changing tires without scratching up rims or wrecking stuff. The problem...
I don't have a stand to make it easy, but I've gotten pretty good at changing tires without scratching up rims or wrecking stuff. The problem I have is inserting the tubes. Any secrets to ease this process (getting valve stem thru rim) without beating up my hands? Sorry for the hijack, but my hands looked like raw hamburger the other day after putting two new tires on.
x2 on everyone above. I use the tall type stand to save my back. Works great. Also useful for doing tubeless mountain bike tires.

As for the valve stem, I coat the tube and inside of tire with baby powder and put one bead of the tire on the rim. Then I remove all air from the tube and flatten it like a new tube. I start at the stem and kind of fold the tube in half to make it lay up inside the tire naturally. I keep a valve stem nut in my mouth so that once I get the stem through the rim I can thread it on quickly just a few threads to keep the stem from falling back inside. I remove the nut after I inflate the tire as they serve no purpose and the stem is more likely to rip off if it doesn't have room to lean as the tire moves on the rim.

You can use one of these stem pullers to save your hands if you still have trouble.

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I think that is a motion pro portable that holds an air tank....It's pretty dang nice..The secret to making yure buddies think yure an awesome fast no pinch tire changer is to keep the bead off the wheel on the bottom...They dont see yu doing that and dont know why its so easy for you to do....Keep that stand in your trailer with some patched tubes and its a sure way to pay for your gas...Haaaahahaah
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suzook241 wrote:
My Friend Brady explains it best.... http://motocross.transworld.net/videos/tire-talk-dunlops-brady-becker/#QiK8pylth3sX5lsg.97
That was awesome, thanks for posting.


Where in PA are you from? I grew up in NE PA, D6.
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The best way to prevent pinching a tube is buying the Tubliss system...

But for real, I just put some nut powder in the tube and get it around the inside by spinning the tire. I always put the tube in the tire and then squeeze the rim into the middle of the tire. from there you just reach in and set your valve stem in the hole and start the nut. Add alittle air to the tube but not so much that its hard obviously. Then center the rim and start the process. The key here is to get as small a bite as possible and avoid going past 90 degrees with the spoons. Once you go very far past 90 you run the risk of pinching the tube into the rim. After you do this process a few times tires go on pretty quickly. When I was a race mechanic, my rider had 15 bikes i had to maintain...you get pretty efficient after that many tire changes lol.
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suzook241 wrote:
My Friend Brady explains it best.... http://motocross.transworld.net/videos/tire-talk-dunlops-brady-becker/#QiK8pylth3sX5lsg.97
Frodad78 wrote:
That was awesome, thanks for posting.


Where in PA are you from? I grew up in NE PA, D6.
Center part of the state, grew up racing d6 for the most part
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Put the tube in the tire first, plenty of videos showing how, saves my knuckles
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five gallon bucket, tube in tire first, lots of wd-40 i can change any tire while on the phone and eating doritos in under five minutes come here and ill show u how to do it, and ill do two for free if ur a shitty student im going to charge you for the next one
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suzook241 wrote:
My Friend Brady explains it best.... http://motocross.transworld.net/videos/tire-talk-dunlops-brady-becker/#QiK8pylth3sX5lsg.97
This is exactly how I do it, but with 3 or 4 of these Tusk tire irons;


https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/726/19196/Tusk-15%22-Curved-Tire-I…

Makes it super easy and you get plenty of leverage. My nest step will be getting a stand, I always use a garbage can right now.
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I have the msr stand and 2 irons and a homemade tire slit to grip and rip. Keep the astroglide close by too.
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kijen wrote:
Put the tube in the tire first, plenty of videos showing how, saves my knuckles
Put the tube in the tire first, plenty of videos showing how, saves my knuckles
I agree with kijen, put tube in the tire first always.

I don't use one of those valve stem pullers you will still fight it with one of those. Put the tube in the tire first add just a bit of air to to take up some room in the tire not much like 1psi. Take your valve stem and put it through the rim and put the nut on before you ever start to install the tire.

Here at about 5:30 into the video you can see what i mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE1qG9iQZlg
(This whole video actually shows start to finish the method i use)

This will also help reduce tube pinches a ton.

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yak651 wrote:
I don't have a stand to make it easy, but I've gotten pretty good at changing tires without scratching up rims or wrecking stuff. The problem...
I don't have a stand to make it easy, but I've gotten pretty good at changing tires without scratching up rims or wrecking stuff. The problem I have is inserting the tubes. Any secrets to ease this process (getting valve stem thru rim) without beating up my hands? Sorry for the hijack, but my hands looked like raw hamburger the other day after putting two new tires on.
Trick is to put the tube in the tire before you put the tire on.

Watch some of the guys from the six days that aren't using a rabaconda (sp?)

Its the easiest and fastest way.
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As long as a tyre is not fighting you you're doing it right
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This is the tire changing tool I'm learning to use. Wouldn't say I'm proficient yet.... however getting better.

Those mousse tools in the background have been to 4 ISDE events with my sons.



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Thanks for all the info guys, some really good stuff in here.
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pete24 wrote:
five gallon bucket, tube in tire first, lots of wd-40 i can change any tire while on the phone and eating doritos in under five minutes...
five gallon bucket, tube in tire first, lots of wd-40 i can change any tire while on the phone and eating doritos in under five minutes come here and ill show u how to do it, and ill do two for free if ur a shitty student im going to charge you for the next one
You're an animal Pete! Someone would be wise to take you up on your offer. You've been around the block a time or two and have more than a considerable amount of experience.

When's the first ride day this year?
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pete24 wrote:
five gallon bucket, tube in tire first, lots of wd-40 i can change any tire while on the phone and eating doritos in under five minutes...
five gallon bucket, tube in tire first, lots of wd-40 i can change any tire while on the phone and eating doritos in under five minutes come here and ill show u how to do it, and ill do two for free if ur a shitty student im going to charge you for the next one
You're an animal Pete! Someone would be wise to take you up on your offer. You've been around the block a time or two and have...
You're an animal Pete! Someone would be wise to take you up on your offer. You've been around the block a time or two and have more than a considerable amount of experience.

When's the first ride day this year?
ill let you know when the ride day is and if u have new tires bring them over and ill change them while holding a mirror for Digger to do his hair
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pete24 wrote:
ill let you know when the ride day is and if u have new tires bring them over and ill change them while holding a mirror...
ill let you know when the ride day is and if u have new tires bring them over and ill change them while holding a mirror for Digger to do his hair
We all know Digger has to make sure his hair is done all the time.

That was a great reply.
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pete24 wrote:
five gallon bucket, tube in tire first, lots of wd-40 i can change any tire while on the phone and eating doritos in under five minutes...
five gallon bucket, tube in tire first, lots of wd-40 i can change any tire while on the phone and eating doritos in under five minutes come here and ill show u how to do it, and ill do two for free if ur a shitty student im going to charge you for the next one
I have a buddy in Connecticut , maybe I'll take you on that someday!

Question on the WD40. I've heard people squawking about WD40 dry rotting rubber. I take it you haven't had any issues with shit drying out?
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people always tell me wd-40 eats rubber ive been using it since the 80s never seen a tooth mark in a tire ever, and no they dont slip ive done lots of tires for guys that race local and nationals and the tires dont slip
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Just paid a shop to do mine... Knicked it all up. They're replacing the rim. Will learn to do mine from now on
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logan_140 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/03/01/126302/s1200_image.jpg[/img] Just paid a shop to do mine... Knicked it all up. They're replacing the rim. Will learn to do mine from now on


Just paid a shop to do mine... Knicked it all up. They're replacing the rim. Will learn to do mine from now on
If they can't mount a tire hate to see how they lace a rim.

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