Panic Button for Pourcel?

1/28/2016 9:31am
So he qualified 2nd, 4th and 2nd fastest so far.

And finished 13th, 12th and 12th in the mains?

Huh Huh Huh That's just bizarre.
crusty_xx wrote:
Chad Reed qualified 8-11-10 and finished 6-2-2 He's a racer, he has done it for ages. Pourcel is the other way round, he has the pace...
Chad Reed qualified 8-11-10 and finished 6-2-2
He's a racer, he has done it for ages.

Pourcel is the other way round, he has the pace but hasn't raced supercross in several years, plus the field is stronger then ever plus he does it all the very first time on the big bike...
He's ahead of Wil Hahn in the standings and not far behind Musquin in 12 place o/a. Is he really doing THAT bad?
And he's not getting injured, he will most probably be there racing till vegas (like outdoors where he finished a 5th overall as the top husky guy)
12th is not that bad, but we tend to judge people based on capabilities versus performance. Pourcel clearly has the speed.
On the Racer X podcast, JT and the Newf said it appeared that Pourcel just wasn't trying at A2.
Does he only try hard when he gets a good start?
1/28/2016 10:40pm
Are we suppose to be shocked by his results?
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1/29/2016 12:46am
I think his aproach is much more inteligent than other guys that keep geting injured every year.

Well maybe you guys enjoy riders pushing over their capabilities and confort zone and geting hurt, who knows.
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1/29/2016 1:08am
12th is not that bad, but we tend to judge people based on capabilities versus performance. Pourcel clearly has the speed. On the Racer X podcast...
12th is not that bad, but we tend to judge people based on capabilities versus performance. Pourcel clearly has the speed.
On the Racer X podcast, JT and the Newf said it appeared that Pourcel just wasn't trying at A2.
Does he only try hard when he gets a good start?
He had a good start at San Diego, damn near took Reed's front wheel out to pass into 2nd or 3rd on the first lap or so.

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Atlanta onwards he'll be right there. He's going about the season in a very intelligent way
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mmcmx wrote:
I think his aproach is much more inteligent than other guys that keep geting injured every year. Well maybe you guys enjoy riders pushing over their...
I think his aproach is much more inteligent than other guys that keep geting injured every year.

Well maybe you guys enjoy riders pushing over their capabilities and confort zone and geting hurt, who knows.
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1/29/2016 6:47am
If you make the main and get lapped that is bad? Come on.
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1/29/2016 8:49am
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If you make the main and get lapped that is bad? Come on.
i'd love to get paid full pop at my job for half the effort. i didn't know it was cool to "ease into it" at the top of any motorsport.

on a positive note......b-stewy will win oakland!! you heard it here first!
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1/29/2016 8:52am Edited Date/Time 1/29/2016 8:55am
hillbilly wrote:
If you make the main and get lapped that is bad? Come on.
hammertime wrote:
i'd love to get paid full pop at my job for half the effort. i didn't know it was cool to "ease into it" at the...
i'd love to get paid full pop at my job for half the effort. i didn't know it was cool to "ease into it" at the top of any motorsport.

on a positive note......b-stewy will win oakland!! you heard it here first!
I hire people all the time and tell them to slow down and learn what's going on.

Personal opinion here but I don't think he has the strength right now for 20 laps of sx, it might be his nerves who knows. If he could win, no way he would be laying back.

All weekend warriors understand being fast 1 lap and then throwing up on the 4th lap
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1/29/2016 9:20am
hillbilly wrote:
If you make the main and get lapped that is bad? Come on.
hammertime wrote:
i'd love to get paid full pop at my job for half the effort. i didn't know it was cool to "ease into it" at the...
i'd love to get paid full pop at my job for half the effort. i didn't know it was cool to "ease into it" at the top of any motorsport.

on a positive note......b-stewy will win oakland!! you heard it here first!
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I hire people all the time and tell them to slow down and learn what's going on. Personal opinion here but I don't think he has...
I hire people all the time and tell them to slow down and learn what's going on.

Personal opinion here but I don't think he has the strength right now for 20 laps of sx, it might be his nerves who knows. If he could win, no way he would be laying back.

All weekend warriors understand being fast 1 lap and then throwing up on the 4th lap
He got an injury that was game ending.

After breaking my neck and not being able to move then getting it back over the next few months all i could think about was being able to race again.

Had not ridden at all but found a shop owner willing to give me a bike.

The day i was to pick up i needed to tell the family ,I had a panic attack so bad that I really thought a major heart attack was happening. Never had one before or since. I didn't pick up the bike.

But I did start sneaking out and racing my 03 husky telling my wife I was just working on bikes at the race. One nite I collide with a lapper over a big double and wad. All bruised up she saw and i came clean.

A year later got the ride on the Honda 08 and raced 2 more years. I lost that wreckless style not wanting to fubar myselfwhich i did end up doing.

CP is on a 2nd life and I know how he feels, if that team doesn't like it I'm sure they will drop him. I'm sure he is happy just being able to race and get the thrill . While being one of the top 20 riders in sx,not bad
1/29/2016 9:57am
hillbilly wrote:
If you make the main and get lapped that is bad? Come on.
hammertime wrote:
i'd love to get paid full pop at my job for half the effort. i didn't know it was cool to "ease into it" at the...
i'd love to get paid full pop at my job for half the effort. i didn't know it was cool to "ease into it" at the top of any motorsport.

on a positive note......b-stewy will win oakland!! you heard it here first!
Yeah but you probably aren't as good at anything as he is a riding a dirt bike so you aren't granted those luxuries.
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1/29/2016 10:01am Edited Date/Time 1/29/2016 10:04am
Trust me I think the team is pretty happy. A rookie that keeps his head cold to learn while showing some big potential, I am sure that brings a smile until Austria. To have 4 KTM/Husky in the top 12 of the most competitive championship, nobody would have expected that 10 years ago, even 5 years ago.

But the critics are also right, it is a bit frustating to watch, I think he needs to improve his program with a top level riding buddy, I mean to learn even faster. Roczen could be a great partner for instance; KR has much more experience now and he needs to practice with a guy who has always been a great starter.
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1/29/2016 10:11am
hammertime wrote:
i'd love to get paid full pop at my job for half the effort. i didn't know it was cool to "ease into it" at the...
i'd love to get paid full pop at my job for half the effort. i didn't know it was cool to "ease into it" at the top of any motorsport.

on a positive note......b-stewy will win oakland!! you heard it here first!
kkawboy14 wrote:
I hire people all the time and tell them to slow down and learn what's going on. Personal opinion here but I don't think he has...
I hire people all the time and tell them to slow down and learn what's going on.

Personal opinion here but I don't think he has the strength right now for 20 laps of sx, it might be his nerves who knows. If he could win, no way he would be laying back.

All weekend warriors understand being fast 1 lap and then throwing up on the 4th lap
hillbilly wrote:
He got an injury that was game ending. After breaking my neck and not being able to move then getting it back over the next few...
He got an injury that was game ending.

After breaking my neck and not being able to move then getting it back over the next few months all i could think about was being able to race again.

Had not ridden at all but found a shop owner willing to give me a bike.

The day i was to pick up i needed to tell the family ,I had a panic attack so bad that I really thought a major heart attack was happening. Never had one before or since. I didn't pick up the bike.

But I did start sneaking out and racing my 03 husky telling my wife I was just working on bikes at the race. One nite I collide with a lapper over a big double and wad. All bruised up she saw and i came clean.

A year later got the ride on the Honda 08 and raced 2 more years. I lost that wreckless style not wanting to fubar myselfwhich i did end up doing.

CP is on a 2nd life and I know how he feels, if that team doesn't like it I'm sure they will drop him. I'm sure he is happy just being able to race and get the thrill . While being one of the top 20 riders in sx,not bad
I know the feeling!
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1/30/2016 10:27pm
Guy B always tells us "If you can't say something nice, then say nothing".
So I'll say nothing.
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1/30/2016 10:33pm
cayman wrote:
Guy B always tells us "If you can't say something nice, then say nothing".
So I'll say nothing.
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He s pacing himself, its all in the plan. Ask the vital know it alls lol.
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1/30/2016 10:38pm
hillbilly wrote:
He got an injury that was game ending. After breaking my neck and not being able to move then getting it back over the next few...
He got an injury that was game ending.

After breaking my neck and not being able to move then getting it back over the next few months all i could think about was being able to race again.

Had not ridden at all but found a shop owner willing to give me a bike.

The day i was to pick up i needed to tell the family ,I had a panic attack so bad that I really thought a major heart attack was happening. Never had one before or since. I didn't pick up the bike.

But I did start sneaking out and racing my 03 husky telling my wife I was just working on bikes at the race. One nite I collide with a lapper over a big double and wad. All bruised up she saw and i came clean.

A year later got the ride on the Honda 08 and raced 2 more years. I lost that wreckless style not wanting to fubar myselfwhich i did end up doing.

CP is on a 2nd life and I know how he feels, if that team doesn't like it I'm sure they will drop him. I'm sure he is happy just being able to race and get the thrill . While being one of the top 20 riders in sx,not bad
Doesnt look like he puts in a lot of effort. If he is too scared to race( which is certainly his right) then he shouldnt be on the track. "fear breeds hesitation and hesitation will make your worst fears come true,"
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1/30/2016 10:43pm
He's fine. Its 4 races in, he was never a title contender so the early part of this season is all about learning for him and making all the races
1/30/2016 10:51pm
Someone needs to tell CP if he's gonna wait for others to crash out to get top 10's then he needs to be able to pass Alessi first
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Doesnt look like he puts in a lot of effort. If he is too scared to race( which is certainly his right) then he shouldnt be...
Doesnt look like he puts in a lot of effort. If he is too scared to race( which is certainly his right) then he shouldnt be on the track. "fear breeds hesitation and hesitation will make your worst fears come true,"
Put on one hell of a fight with Tommy Hahn and Enticknap in the LCQ, though... A few more laps and maybe he'd have gotten Bopping and Schmidt. Not bad for a full factory guy.
1/31/2016 12:28am
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Atlanta onwards he'll be right there. He's going about the season in a very intelligent way
Im no CP fan... But I agree wholeheartedly with this post. It's a SUPER deep field, attrition will kick in over the next 8 rds.

And considering his past injuries, I dont blame him for his patient approach.

The real x factor is if CP can keep his head with his team. I think he will.
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1/31/2016 9:05am
still just "being smart" chilling with safe last place starts and lappers....not good.

it was heartbreaking to see my man stew pulling off with his gut hanging over the gas cap. i had dreams of some big stew flashes of brilliant speed. he looked really sketchy in the opening laps of his heat and the main...bummer
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2/1/2016 1:56am Edited Date/Time 2/1/2016 2:57am
hammertime wrote:
still just "being smart" chilling with safe last place starts and lappers....not good. it was heartbreaking to see my man stew pulling off with his gut...
still just "being smart" chilling with safe last place starts and lappers....not good.

it was heartbreaking to see my man stew pulling off with his gut hanging over the gas cap. i had dreams of some big stew flashes of brilliant speed. he looked really sketchy in the opening laps of his heat and the main...bummer
hammertime,

I agree. hillbilly is comparing Pourcel to himself. And that's an unfair comparison. You nailed it: Pourcel is being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and getting lapped.

This is an end of an era for Stewart. However, a lot of people are not willing to accept that. Who takes 18 months off of pro sports and comes back at the top at 33 years old? Stewart's suspension from pro motocross merely sealed his fate.

Frankly, Stewart has been at this for a long time now. He's had many concussion and a lot of injuries. And, like Villopoto, he may no longer have the drive.
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2/1/2016 2:54am Edited Date/Time 2/1/2016 2:59am
hammertime wrote:
still just "being smart" chilling with safe last place starts and lappers....not good. it was heartbreaking to see my man stew pulling off with his gut...
still just "being smart" chilling with safe last place starts and lappers....not good.

it was heartbreaking to see my man stew pulling off with his gut hanging over the gas cap. i had dreams of some big stew flashes of brilliant speed. he looked really sketchy in the opening laps of his heat and the main...bummer
He actually pulled a pretty good start from the far outside on saturday, but Baggett cut him off. And that was that.

I guess the moral of that story is to qualify better though.







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Atlanta onwards he'll be right there. He's going about the season in a very intelligent way
I don't agree with that at all. Intelligent would be hanging around the top 5 and scoring good points without pushing for wins and getting hurt in the 1st half of the season.

He hasn't even finished inside the top 10 yet. The only guy that's raced every race and has LESS points that Pourcel is Mike Alessi.
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I don't agree with that at all. Intelligent would be hanging around the top 5 and scoring good points without pushing for wins and getting hurt...
I don't agree with that at all. Intelligent would be hanging around the top 5 and scoring good points without pushing for wins and getting hurt in the 1st half of the season.

He hasn't even finished inside the top 10 yet. The only guy that's raced every race and has LESS points that Pourcel is Mike Alessi.
You can't just 'hang around' inside the top 5, these guys are the best SX riders in the world. Pourcel would have to seriously hang it out for 20 laps to get it in the top 5. Okay he be able to do that and get a good result, but he might also end up crashing and being out for 6 weeks, which is the last thing he needs at this stage. He's on a 2 year deal, so he's got next year as well, there is no rush, he just needs to keep going, make every race and the results will come. Second half of the season he will get better, he's said that himself, and when Pourcel says something, he usually does it
2/1/2016 7:02am
Everyone mentioning CP's injury, you do realize that he was injured in 2007 and partially paralyzed. He came back to win in 2009 and 2010. He lacerated his spleen in 2012 at Bercy and took 2013 off.
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Everyone mentioning CP's injury, you do realize that he was injured in 2007 and partially paralyzed. He came back to win in 2009 and 2010. He...
Everyone mentioning CP's injury, you do realize that he was injured in 2007 and partially paralyzed. He came back to win in 2009 and 2010. He lacerated his spleen in 2012 at Bercy and took 2013 off.
Injured in year 1, comes back to win in years 3 and 4

Injured in year 1, comes back in year 5 and makes the LCQ entertaining.
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2/1/2016 7:31am
No reason to panic , he wasn't expected to win the title , but he should be better than this imo.
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We should have a bring vitards to work day, so we can follow other members around and tell them how terrible and worthless they are at their jobs and how they will never improve and meet expectations.
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2/1/2016 7:42am
That was a bad race but you'll see him finish inside the top 10 overall. He's just being safe benefiting from riders getting injured and should be getting better. He probably doesn't care about this year just need to get into top 10 to keep Husky happy and is just lining up 2017 contract year.

He is having a better season then Brock Tickle, Justin Bogle, Justin Barcia, Dean Wilson, James Stewart.

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