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Grizz 1/10/2016 1:31am
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GuyB wrote:
It sounds like he'll sit out next week (on top of missing the main this week), plus a $5k fine.

No penalty for Friese.
"No penalty for Friese."

What. The. Fuck.

I mean, I don't expect the AMA/FIM to be rational, but that's still my reaction.
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gnarwhip 1/10/2016 1:35am
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Starcrossed wrote:
He may gain some new fans , but it also may come at the expense of losing some support from his sponsors as well as drawing...
He may gain some new fans , but it also may come at the expense of losing some support from his sponsors as well as drawing some criticism from his team, and potentially negating much of the good will he has earned from many of his current fans over his years of hard work. He's going to have to work hard and try to put this behind him. He hasn't been setting the world on fire recently, and may be on his last factory ride if he doesn't show some serious upside in 2016. I think there may be some anger management classes in the near future for Mr. Peick, per order of the coach. From what I know of Joe Gibbs, he's going to want to make sure that it is well known that this type of behavior is unacceptable. I wish Weston the best, and a win or a few podiums down the road could really help his cause.
True. But remember Ryan Hughes and Doug Henry got in a gnarly fight with both punches and tackles in 94, Emig blatantly kicked Larocco in 95, Keidrowski ghost-rode his bike into Larocco and Chicken punched Larry Ward in the face. People will look back on this and laugh
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40Plus_922mx 1/10/2016 1:38am
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GuyB wrote:
It sounds like he'll sit out next week (on top of missing the main this week), plus a $5k fine.

No penalty for Friese.
Grizz wrote:
"No penalty for Friese."

What. The. Fuck.

I mean, I don't expect the AMA/FIM to be rational, but that's still my reaction.
Name one rider who has not done what Freise did tonight.
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Money 1/10/2016 1:39am
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Does anyone remember vince is the one who ended matt boni career years ago by cross jumping a rhythm. Vice jumped dean tonight and then got into it with piek twice. He needs to be sat again

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mark_swart 1/10/2016 1:40am
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If this is "assault," then so is pretty much EVERY block pass EVER made in Supercross.
Was it stupid and shortsighted on both parts? Yes.
BUT... Friese was racing. Dirty or not, and whether or not Weston would have dropped him in half a lap, he was racing. I don't know Friese, don't care, but bottom line Weston came around him and expecting him to capitulate. That's really not in the rules. Nobody DQ-ed Bowers/Webb last year when they plowed together.
I told my kid on lap 1 something would happen because Friese was in front... and here we are. But until he does something that dramatically endangers another rider, don't expect him to be punished. Because as we all know..."rubbin is racin.."
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40Plus_922mx 1/10/2016 1:44am
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Everyone told thier kid on lap one dude......
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mmcmx 1/10/2016 1:48am
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I don't personally know any of them but man, I sure have developed a strong dislike for Friese over the years.

It's the wrong thing to do but I won't lie... I enjoyed every second of what Weston did.

mattyhamz2 1/10/2016 1:48am
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The second line of what you typed is the major err here, IMO. Also, if I read another person type either "Peick puched...assault...blah blah.." or "...(assault)..."...
The second line of what you typed is the major err here, IMO.

Also, if I read another person type either "Peick puched...assault...blah blah.." or "...(assault)..." then I'm going to....well, probably just complain on Vital more about that being such an exaggerated statement.

If that's truly assault, and you genuinely - as a fan of sx and mx - feel that way, then this may not be your lane. I understand why someone might make the statement as it relates to trying to overtly prove a point about WP being in the wrong (which is, to an extent, undeniable). That being said, if you honestly think that was assault, which is an offense worthy of criminal prosecution...please. He hit a dude that had a helmet on, if Friese was so terribly injured from said assault, he wouldn't have raced anymore. Let's all just try really hard to be reasonable...I know that's a huge thing to ask for sometimes, but try hard - I know we can do it...maybe..
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It was assault. When you punch another person and it's not self defense, it IS assault. Whether it was assault or not does not depend on...
It was assault. When you punch another person and it's not self defense, it IS assault. Whether it was assault or not does not depend on the injuries incurred, that would only play into what extent the prosecutor could charge. Both players and coaches have been criminally charged for assault on the playing field, Peick is not exempt because it is a sporting event.
If you are going to say that what Peick did is assault couldn't you also consider what Vince did assault on Peick? Couldn't you possibly even call it assault with a deadly weapon since he could have possibly injured Peick worse with his bike than what Peick could have done with his fists to Vince?

I don't think it was assault at all. What I saw was a guy riding like a complete asshole like he has his entire pro career and another rider finally got fed up with being taken out of two races in one night. Now punching Vince probably wasn't the best decision but emotions run high for everyone in that situation. If I took someone out at the local track on purpose and he started throwing punches I wouldn't blame him one bit and sure as hell wouldn't press any sort of charges on the guy. Let's stop pussifying every single thing that we do in life. These guys are grown men. Ride shitty like Vince has been for a long time and this will happen to you at some point as well. I'm just surprised it took this long for it to happen. #freeweston
Awesome Johnson 1/10/2016 1:57am
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Best a1 ever!!! Except for bubba's lights going out. That sucked. Hell yeah PeickWoohoo
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GuyB wrote:
It sounds like he'll sit out next week (on top of missing the main this week), plus a $5k fine.

No penalty for Friese.
Grizz wrote:
"No penalty for Friese."

What. The. Fuck.

I mean, I don't expect the AMA/FIM to be rational, but that's still my reaction.
Vince pushed him wide. west could have checked up either time and saved himself. vince didn't hit him, didn't slam him and didn't " take him out. " watch the video...
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BRIT317 1/10/2016 2:21am
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I can't wait to go to the Icon Gym on Monday. Definitely going to be an interesting week haha they need to put on some boxing gloves Grinning but seriously I don't think Weston deserved the penalty.

motokiwi 1/10/2016 3:11am
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He may gain some new fans , but it also may come at the expense of losing some support from his sponsors as well as drawing...
He may gain some new fans , but it also may come at the expense of losing some support from his sponsors as well as drawing some criticism from his team, and potentially negating much of the good will he has earned from many of his current fans over his years of hard work. He's going to have to work hard and try to put this behind him. He hasn't been setting the world on fire recently, and may be on his last factory ride if he doesn't show some serious upside in 2016. I think there may be some anger management classes in the near future for Mr. Peick, per order of the coach. From what I know of Joe Gibbs, he's going to want to make sure that it is well known that this type of behavior is unacceptable. I wish Weston the best, and a win or a few podiums down the road could really help his cause.
Seriously, anger management classes? You NEED to be angry to be a RACER! Anger is the fuel for every single pass.
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ehr400 1/10/2016 3:37am
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I can tell who sits down when they piss in this thread. #pussificationofamerica
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4-ERA 1/10/2016 3:42am
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Funny how they joke about Barcia earning the nickname Bam-Bam (for crashing out more riders than anyone else in history) and, a few minutes later, everyone's all in Freezy's shit. I'm not for riding dirty. But let's not all drink the cool aid just yet.
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gnarwhip wrote:
Friese has had that coming for years, I'm glad he got wailed on in front of everyone. He moved over on Peick in the heat before...
Friese has had that coming for years, I'm glad he got wailed on in front of everyone. He moved over on Peick in the heat before, and also Wilson, causing them both to crash. Closed fist punches weren't the best call, probably a couple of shoves or a tackle would've been better. Bottom line is Peick lost it, but also gained about 10,000 fans.
Totally agree
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Starcrossed wrote:
He may gain some new fans , but it also may come at the expense of losing some support from his sponsors as well as drawing...
He may gain some new fans , but it also may come at the expense of losing some support from his sponsors as well as drawing some criticism from his team, and potentially negating much of the good will he has earned from many of his current fans over his years of hard work. He's going to have to work hard and try to put this behind him. He hasn't been setting the world on fire recently, and may be on his last factory ride if he doesn't show some serious upside in 2016. I think there may be some anger management classes in the near future for Mr. Peick, per order of the coach. From what I know of Joe Gibbs, he's going to want to make sure that it is well known that this type of behavior is unacceptable. I wish Weston the best, and a win or a few podiums down the road could really help his cause.
Well stated. Hasn't Peick had some issues in the past as well? Something about kicking a bike off a stand or something to that effect?

This behavior looks horrible for the sport. I get that some of his fans are pumped about what happened. Sure, he may even gain a few new fans. But the damage is done to his reputation and his sponsors. Now it's time to do damage control and show that actions like this aren't acceptable. Moves like this get people talking about Peick, but do nothing for his sponsors.

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MX114 1/10/2016 3:51am
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Peicks reaction was overboard but screw Freise he deserves it. Guy rides like an idiot and always has. Ya gotta fight for your spot and don't leave room, but most 450 veterans follow an edict of at least not crossing completely over on dudes thru rhythms. That's how he's been for as long as I've ever seen pro. Im not sure if what Peick did is all that bad for JGR?? I'm sure there not stoked cause it's two weeks no points or 2nd rider. But how much publicity would they have gotten for A1 had this not happened?? Not a whole lot. Now this will be the highlight reel for SX by the networks for the rest of the year. Even friends and people who know nothing about SX will think it's great and more interested. But you can't have dudes being all WWF so guess two mains is fair and sets standards.
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motokiwi wrote:
Seriously, anger management classes? You NEED to be angry to be a RACER! Anger is the fuel for every single pass.
Maybe some people don't differentiate between intensity and anger. I really don't see anger in many of the pros racing now. Anyway , the slightly sarcastic reference was meant to allude to the ultraconservative reputation of Joe Gibbs and the image he has always projected with team prayers, and family atmosphere, charitable events with sick children at his shop....he sent Kyle Busch to anger management after his suspension for ramming another driver's car on pit lane after a race. Kyle has benefitted tremendously from his association with Gibbs, as a side note.

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bob567 1/10/2016 4:19am
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I'm a new fan. The penalty was worth it. Peick should have body slammed Friese though. And no, Peick does not need to attend Ass Kickers Anonymous classes.
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fidiot 1/10/2016 4:25am
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Peick for president!!

Friese has had it coming for years. I do not understand why they even allow that fool to race.
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brlatm 1/10/2016 4:32am
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gnarwhip wrote:
True. But remember Ryan Hughes and Doug Henry got in a gnarly fight with both punches and tackles in 94, Emig blatantly kicked Larocco in 95...
True. But remember Ryan Hughes and Doug Henry got in a gnarly fight with both punches and tackles in 94, Emig blatantly kicked Larocco in 95, Keidrowski ghost-rode his bike into Larocco and Chicken punched Larry Ward in the face. People will look back on this and laugh
Well todays people won't sit back and laugh, their moms raised a bunch of pussies. Maybe they got a participation award growing up?

Assault charges really? No wonder some of you guys are some bitter bastards and your called Vitards.

I'm not condoning Peick whipping his ass, he deserved something, but assault charges. Go pay your lawyers some more monies because your ass is too lazy to fight for something and earn something on your own.
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Julian 1/10/2016 4:39am
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40Plus_922mx wrote:
Not counting the past, just tonight, Friese did what others have done tonight. Peike over reacted and completely lost his cool. I do not excuse his...
Not counting the past, just tonight, Friese did what others have done tonight. Peike over reacted and completely lost his cool. I do not excuse his actions because of Friese's past or his reputation as some eluded to even in the broadcast. Although I do fully understand how Peike felt in the heat of the moment however. Well it sure was one hell of an opener.
exactly
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Julian 1/10/2016 4:53am
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gnarwhip wrote:
Friese has had that coming for years, I'm glad he got wailed on in front of everyone. He moved over on Peick in the heat before...
Friese has had that coming for years, I'm glad he got wailed on in front of everyone. He moved over on Peick in the heat before, and also Wilson, causing them both to crash. Closed fist punches weren't the best call, probably a couple of shoves or a tackle would've been better. Bottom line is Peick lost it, but also gained about 10,000 fans.
Friese did not really do anything that is unacceptable tonight, Personally I do not like it when a rider comes in like a torpedo aimed right at the side of a rider traveling through a turn, has no place in our sport, but everyone else seems to think it is ok
as far as cross jumping, the video i saw was not good but he seemed to be looking forward and wanting to position himself better to pass the rider ahead of him by not following him, i highly doubt he was trying to take out wilson.
The last thing the sport needs is 10,000 more fans who enjoy fighting, there are plenty other low-life sports to take in those type fans
nascarnate326 1/10/2016 4:59am
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Peick gained several new fans last night at my place. More than half the field has to be pleased with Peick but can express it.

Honestly, his sponsors shouldn't be so quick to judge. With out the ass kickin he dished out they wouldn't hav gotten much exposure given how poor of a job Barcia did last night.
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Money wrote:
Does anyone remember vince is the one who ended matt boni career years ago by cross jumping a rhythm. Vice jumped dean tonight and then got...
Does anyone remember vince is the one who ended matt boni career years ago by cross jumping a rhythm. Vice jumped dean tonight and then got into it with piek twice. He needs to be sat again
He also did a Jeff Alessi on Anderson except Anderson was wise too it and yanked his wheel...
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Vince Friese is a master at his craft. He does all of this yet manages to stay under the threshold of punishment. He's like a hockey agitator who plays just cheap enough to draw penalties without taking one himself but when the situation escalates, he turtles and acts confused as if to say "why did he do that?". Weston should know better. He took the cheese.
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Jimmy_Sloan wrote:
It was assault. When you punch another person and it's not self defense, it IS assault. Whether it was assault or not does not depend on...
It was assault. When you punch another person and it's not self defense, it IS assault. Whether it was assault or not does not depend on the injuries incurred, that would only play into what extent the prosecutor could charge. Both players and coaches have been criminally charged for assault on the playing field, Peick is not exempt because it is a sporting event.
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Yea, so this is what I was getting at. We can parse out the legalese, but if you believe a DA should be actively investigating and...
Yea, so this is what I was getting at. We can parse out the legalese, but if you believe a DA should be actively investigating and pursuing a case against WP for tonight, then I can't do anything but say I disagree. Guess I can have a bit of respect for your passionate fandom, but I do not understand a rational person thinking that what occurred meets a common sense definition of assault
if that was assault than why don't the UFC fighters get charged each time they punch each other ?
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GuyB wrote:
It sounds like he'll sit out next week (on top of missing the main this week), plus a $5k fine.

No penalty for Friese.
Grizz wrote:
"No penalty for Friese."

What. The. Fuck.

I mean, I don't expect the AMA/FIM to be rational, but that's still my reaction.
40Plus_922mx wrote:
Name one rider who has not done what Freise did tonight.
Exactly, I didn't see anything wrong with what Friese did both times!
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KTMShane699 1/10/2016 5:39am
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Roscoe33 wrote:
if that was assault than why don't the UFC fighters get charged each time they punch each other ?
Not agreeing that he should be brought up on assault charges, but the difference would be that a UFC fighter contents to the fight. A guy racing a motorcycle doesn't. You know, that "reasonable risk and expectations" thing...Ask most people and getting into a fist fight at a race wouldn't be a common practice at the races.

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motosmith 1/10/2016 5:45am
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Take out moves are now called " getting friesed ".

I think it speaks volumes when you get a take out move named after you.

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