Cycle Ranch Closing?

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7/23/2015 11:02am
moore433 wrote:
I wish Trey would get a national, they're a great family...known them since before they bought Swan.
This! Trey deserves a shot at a national event IMO!
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7/23/2015 12:04pm
jndmx wrote:
2 Mil was the figure I heard.
All the track property buildings and vehicles as well as the house that is on the location.
Going off memory here, the old facility was for sale for like 1.5 million for years and Ian bought it for maybe 400K-600K? Pretty sure that is correct. He has made some upgrades for sure but it's still in the middle of nowhere. That area was in the middle of an oil boom (Floresville, TX) but that is all but gone now and with Iranian oil about to hit the open market, about to get even worse.

The reality is that MX tracks don't pay much so you can't have too much money in the property or it will never cash flow.

With a 2 million dollar listing price, this track might not be available for a long time. But I have faith it will come back. After all, the location is too remote for a self storage facility to be built!
7/23/2015 2:26pm
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I WISHID KENT HOWERTIN CUD GIT ENUFF MONY TO RUN CYCUL RANCH. HE LIVS KLOSE TO THEIR.

kkawboy14 wrote:
Is that how they used to spell Suzuki? Or did somebody mess up that jersey?
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7/23/2015 4:00pm
I heard that RV is buying it and turning it into a game farm.

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7/23/2015 4:05pm
That douchebags ego is bigger than the entire property, he ran the entire original staff off including bill that ran moto shack. He might of had good intentions in the beginning but somewhere along the way he got greedy. The track crew sucks they have no clue what they are doing nobody's happy and when you voice your opinion he acts like a child and just keeps it closed fuck that guy. He ruined one of the best tracks in Texas and believe me I've told him the same thing. And when he didn't have a valid argument he kicked me out of the group.
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7/23/2015 4:08pm
Kent and Derek howerton used to be out there every weekend and even they stopped going because the track started going down hill. The guy spent to much time and money on all the "bells and whistles" when all we ever cared about was maintaining the main track.
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7/24/2015 10:18am
A couple takes from this thread. Iain was a difficult dude to deal with and drove riders away. They never had a consistent practice schedule, so you couldn't plan your days there. The "deep" prep was for the people who wanted to practice/train for getting faster. I love that, and believe tracks need to do more of that.

Murphy's is doing it right. They are a family run track that are passionate about the sport. The track improves every time I have been there. My only wish is that they would dig it deeper and let ruts form in the turns. Also, see if there is a way to widen it, for racing.

CamP is on the right track, saying Oak Hill would be a good national track. They already run one of the most popular amateur nationals in the country. However, I think the track at UnderGround is far better. It is the top track in the state, IMHO. But then again, I would rather see a National at Tallon's place. But it would be a media/traffic nightmare! Smile
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7/24/2015 11:10am
The Rock wrote:
Well that saves me from posting the question why did the track close. We need an organization that sanctions all the tracks with a code of...
Well that saves me from posting the question why did the track close. We need an organization that sanctions all the tracks with a code of operation. I used to think that would be the AMA but with Dingman turning it into the AAA for street bikers and working to keep helmets from being required for street riders at the present time it seems their focus (the AMA in Ohio that sanctions SX) is not on amateur racing. To be clear this may not be reality but as of this writing is my perception.

MX Sports does a great job with the LL series obviously but there are quite a few tracks out there that aren't part of the LL series and never will be.

Regardless of AMA or no AMA or NMA or no NMA we cannot keep losing tracks.
So you are saying, that if I want to open a track, using my funds for the property, equipment, and operaton, that some outside entity should...


So you are saying, that if I want to open a track, using my funds for the property, equipment, and operaton, that some outside entity should be able to tell me how to run it? I'll bet neckbraces and chest protection would be mandatory too, at MY track, right?

Your rabid desire for rules and regulations being placed on everything is borderline frightening. You've got to be the biggest Socialist on this site, bordering on Nazi-ism. Give it a rest. If no one else will say it, I will. There's definitely a pattern.

Let me take this Rock... I believe the point he is trying to make is the AMA is doing nothing to help existing private locations where you can ride. Yes they work on public land but I have never seen them get involved in helping keep privately owned tracks open. Rules and regulations create consistency. In the case of an organization creating a standard of operation it gives the consumer (riders) the knowledge that if they go there it will be a certain level of quality. Is a Big Mac the best hamburger in the world? No, but it taste the same in Texas as it does in anywhere else in the world. Why? rules and regulations on how it is made.
This model absolutely works in moto. Here in Ohio, local racing had been dropping year over year, Tracks closing right and left. The product that was being given to the riders was so low grade that many stopped racing or just choose to travel out of state. Then a handful of track owners got together and created an organization that primarily focused on the QUALITY. They created regulations on track prep, track layout and other race day amenities and in less then two years, they now have one of the larges events in the nation and a series that is outdrawing all other organizations in the country.
You may not agree with all the rules and regulations but you can not deign, they work.

Looks like a great track. Too bad the AMA does not care. But hey, at least you can ride your Harley to the state park
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7/24/2015 1:06pm Edited Date/Time 7/24/2015 1:26pm
Thank you ck1racerX.

The Narrator-It seems that narrating is more your strength than reading comprehension. Please read the following without projecting your personal biases and assumptions on my reality.

I am not a neck brace advocate If you opened an AMA or FIM sanctioned track in the US or outside the US I would support the regulations these organizations enforce for safety and sound.

It is a free country but yet you call me names for supporting the FIM's upcoming upper body requirements. Really appreciate the tolerance and respect for my positions The Narrator.

Regarding Your rabid desire for rules and regulations being placed on everything is borderline frightening it is frightening to me how people like you can exaggerate so much and it also frightens me how many people are happy with the status quo. I am not one of those people obviously. MX has given me so much that I want to do what I can to keep it going by reducing avoidable injuries, make machines quieter to keep what few tracks we have left open and try to brainstorm with people that are actually interested in making positive contributions to the sport.

After starting racing MX in Ohio in 1972 I am completely sick and tired of the BS (a big part of it is the tolerance by many for year after year of stupid stuff going on) so I use this forum as others do to express my opinion. No one is making you read any thread I start so please avoid them in the future if you're bothered by them.

BTW give me your address when your track is ready please. Let me guess......no safety equipment and no packing in your silencer/muffler because you're not a socialist Neo Nazi.

EDIT: The Narrator- I apologize for starting the thread about the suggestion about a new rule for track equipment. Who am I to make suggestions in an effort to keep someone's son or daughter from smoking into a bulldozer? It's a dangerous sport after all right?
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7/24/2015 1:08pm
Getndome wrote:
Kent and Derek howerton used to be out there every weekend and even they stopped going because the track started going down hill. The guy spent...
Kent and Derek howerton used to be out there every weekend and even they stopped going because the track started going down hill. The guy spent to much time and money on all the "bells and whistles" when all we ever cared about was maintaining the main track.
What kinds of bells and whistles?
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7/24/2015 1:20pm
Getndome wrote:
Kent and Derek howerton used to be out there every weekend and even they stopped going because the track started going down hill. The guy spent...
Kent and Derek howerton used to be out there every weekend and even they stopped going because the track started going down hill. The guy spent to much time and money on all the "bells and whistles" when all we ever cared about was maintaining the main track.
The Rock wrote:
What kinds of bells and whistles?
Restaurant
Concerts
Mudbog
Supercross Track
onsite Management
Driveway grading
Girl midget mud wrestling.......
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7/24/2015 1:23pm
Good ideas but first things first like keeping the track maintained and riders coming.

Besides I heard girl midget mud wrestling is a pretty small sport anyway Smile
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7/24/2015 1:24pm Edited Date/Time 7/24/2015 1:24pm
The Rock wrote:
Good ideas but first things first like keeping the track maintained and riders coming. Besides I heard girl midget mud wrestling is a pretty [i]small [/i]sport...
Good ideas but first things first like keeping the track maintained and riders coming.

Besides I heard girl midget mud wrestling is a pretty small sport anyway Smile
Ha :0)

Basically everything but main track upkeep
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7/24/2015 1:24pm
Getndome wrote:
Kent and Derek howerton used to be out there every weekend and even they stopped going because the track started going down hill. The guy spent...
Kent and Derek howerton used to be out there every weekend and even they stopped going because the track started going down hill. The guy spent to much time and money on all the "bells and whistles" when all we ever cared about was maintaining the main track.
The Rock wrote:
What kinds of bells and whistles?
Painted bathroom walls mirrors, a cafe that nobody used, these big giant steps they built around the pavilion just a bunch of wasted money. And all the while they totally neglected the main track.theres a lot of other shit that if you are local you know what I'm talking about there's to much to list.
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Unfortunately the owner tried to make the track a "destination training complex". They started off having riders buy a membership every year and all it did was drop your gate fee from like $35 to a normal $25. No additional perks for being a member. Then they built a supercross track that only pros could ride on and then an arenacross track that was an extra $15 a day to ride but the arenacross track was the pro replica so again only 1-2 riders could actually ride the damn thing. Then they hired a chef no joke the guy told me he went to culinary institute of America to come and make hamburgers and hot dogs and damn vegan breakfast tacos. All the riders wanted was prepped practice on the national track no need for the other tracks. They built a decent night track but after a year it was never open. All the original staff either quit or was fired and the owner would start Facebook fights with everyone who inquired or criticized the track. If someone said the track was dry they would flood it the next day so it was 3' deep and mud for the whole day and build giant sections that the top 5-10% of riders would like but not all the regular paying customers. Place was just a pain in the ass you never knew what you were going to get and all the new staff had no clue about motocross and we're not helpful at all. Place was run into the ground and used to be packed every weekend before the current owner took over.
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10/19/2015 7:49pm
If Cycle Ranch is closed...does anyone have suggestions for another track? I just moved to Corpus Christi and need to find something within 2 hours drive.
Thanks
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10/19/2015 8:08pm
yamahuh wrote:
If Cycle Ranch is closed...does anyone have suggestions for another track? I just moved to Corpus Christi and need to find something within 2 hours drive...
If Cycle Ranch is closed...does anyone have suggestions for another track? I just moved to Corpus Christi and need to find something within 2 hours drive.
Thanks
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10/19/2015 8:19pm
HackMan162 wrote:
A couple takes from this thread. Iain was a difficult dude to deal with and drove riders away. They never had a consistent practice schedule, so...
A couple takes from this thread. Iain was a difficult dude to deal with and drove riders away. They never had a consistent practice schedule, so you couldn't plan your days there. The "deep" prep was for the people who wanted to practice/train for getting faster. I love that, and believe tracks need to do more of that.

Murphy's is doing it right. They are a family run track that are passionate about the sport. The track improves every time I have been there. My only wish is that they would dig it deeper and let ruts form in the turns. Also, see if there is a way to widen it, for racing.

CamP is on the right track, saying Oak Hill would be a good national track. They already run one of the most popular amateur nationals in the country. However, I think the track at UnderGround is far better. It is the top track in the state, IMHO. But then again, I would rather see a National at Tallon's place. But it would be a media/traffic nightmare! Smile
Damn straight, Murphys and ADVMX are the two tracks i frequent and have a great regular practice schedule, no crazy ego driven owners, and are just fun tracks to ride.
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10/20/2015 6:48am
RPM68 wrote:
According to there Facebook page they are "Permanently Closed." My cousin ran that track for about 10 years and the previous owner Ian, did a remarkable...
According to there Facebook page they are "Permanently Closed."

My cousin ran that track for about 10 years and the previous owner Ian, did a remarkable job expanding the entire facility. Makes me sad to hear, it was one of the best tracks in Texas with def the best dirt.


Good memories!!!






https://youtu.be/cC_8P_IBfZs

https://youtu.be/O6sS3svzNao
So Ryan, since you posted this I think it is pretty clear that business slowed to the point of having to close the doors due to neglect. Sounds like the new owners either just lost site of what motocross is to the majority or wanted to build his dream facility whether anyone liked it or not. Being that you are pretty connected with the MX community here in the Texas area, have you heard any new updates lately? Maybe Clem should buy it! There would be races every weekend! : )
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10/25/2015 4:59pm
Does anyone have an actual price, or if its listed for sale... by who? I'm trying to get purchase info.
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10/25/2015 5:14pm
Are you looking to list the track property for a housing development like the rumors say? you appear to be a real estate agent
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10/25/2015 5:37pm
Yes, I am a Realtor.. and NO WAY! My son rides moto x and I have a friend who is an investor who would like to reopen it. Its not listed on any MLS and looks likes it has never been for sale so I'm trying to get info....
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Yes, I am a Realtor.. and NO WAY! My son rides moto x and I have a friend who is an investor who would like to...
Yes, I am a Realtor.. and NO WAY! My son rides moto x and I have a friend who is an investor who would like to reopen it. Its not listed on any MLS and looks likes it has never been for sale so I'm trying to get info....
Look for Iain Grae on Facebook.
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10/25/2015 7:00pm Edited Date/Time 10/25/2015 9:27pm
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10/26/2015 8:54am
My cousin Mike ran it/owned it for years. I havent spoke with him for a while and dont think he has anything to do with the facility anymore. It's really depressing, the memories from this place go on and on!
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10/26/2015 9:20am Edited Date/Time 10/26/2015 9:22am
RPM68 wrote:
My cousin Mike ran it/owned it for years. I havent spoke with him for a while and dont think he has anything to do with the...
My cousin Mike ran it/owned it for years. I havent spoke with him for a while and dont think he has anything to do with the facility anymore. It's really depressing, the memories from this place go on and on!
It's never been the same since Mike left. No one else has been able to make that track as good as he did.
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10/26/2015 9:50am
RPM68 wrote:
My cousin Mike ran it/owned it for years. I havent spoke with him for a while and dont think he has anything to do with the...
My cousin Mike ran it/owned it for years. I havent spoke with him for a while and dont think he has anything to do with the facility anymore. It's really depressing, the memories from this place go on and on!
Moto Mofo wrote:
It's never been the same since Mike left. No one else has been able to make that track as good as he did.
I agree,

It was crazy b/c apparently his wife is my mothers 2nd cousin. So I had no clue we were related until we pulled up with our race trailer back in 2001.

Family reunion at the track!
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12/18/2015 6:31am
Is cycle ranch back open now?
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12/18/2015 6:48am
kkawboy14 wrote:
Is cycle ranch back open now?
Unfortunately, NO!
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Is cycle ranch back open now?
RACERX69 wrote:
Unfortunately, NO!
I got great credit, any finance companies out there wanna fix me up for a 120 year loan? lol

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