Sacramento/Bakersfield

Juss
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10/15/2015 7:33pm
JMR1976 wrote:
Bakersfield armpit of California.
Umm no thats Sacramento or Stockton!
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10/15/2015 7:54pm
JMR1976 wrote:
Bakersfield armpit of California.
Juss wrote:
Umm no thats Sacramento or Stockton!
Well it s a toss up! Bakersfields smog and smell turns me off.
I personally like the folsom area. Hangtown and Tahoe are much closer.
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10/15/2015 8:02pm
lets not get into a pissing match as to which is better just need to know the finer points of each as I could end up in either or without a choice if I want to remain whole with my current employer.

thanks bro's
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10/15/2015 8:18pm Edited Date/Time 10/15/2015 8:27pm
Sacramento, by a landslide.
No disrespect to Bakersfield or its residents at all, but IMHO there is a VERY short list of places that I think are worse than the Bakersfield area to drive through and or stop in.
I am from the north Los Angeles area, and have moved my parents to Sac, actually about 45 east to Placerville, or Rescue CA to be exact.
I am driving to Portland, Oregon this weekend from L.A. up the 5 fwy for the millionth time for work.
I'll just say that I can't wait to get through Bakersfield faster than any other place on that drive. Just being honest with you man, It is what it is :/
EDIT: I know Bakersfield is off the 99 but let's be honest, once you hit that part of central California, roll up your windows, hit the A/C recirc button and pin it. Can't wait to get through it.

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10/15/2015 8:18pm Edited Date/Time 10/15/2015 8:44pm
Check out both places, you'll probably have the right feel. Anywhere at the base of the Sierras north to south is going to give you pretty incredible riding opportunities, track and trail. The Sierras and the foothills are awesome recreational areas north to south.

One thing to keep in mind is that as hot as it is up and down the valley, it cools off a lot more, a lot more often, and usually very nicely at night in the summer in the Sacramento area from the Delta breeze that sweeps through the Bay Area as fog and into the valley through the Sacramento River basin. It's like an air conditioning blast that regularly refreshes the Sac area from time to time (not talking cold, but low 70's/high 60's some nights). We're off the air conditioning most of the summer, often even in the high 90 days). That tends to not be the case when you get down toward Fresno/Bakersfield or up toward Red Bluff/Redding, where the cooling dissipates and it doesn't back off as much (unless the Monsoons creep over to the high desert down south). It's not uncommon in the summer for Scottie up in Redding to have nighttime temps 20 degrees hotter, even if the daytime difference might be Redding about 5 degrees hotter than Sac.

I think the quality of community life within the Sacramento area is a lot richer than right around Bakersfield (pretty incredible restaurant scene, decent arts, NBA team and probably an MLS team soon). As people have noted, however, LA is around the corner for that sort of thing if you're in Bakersfield, and Vegas isn't that far if you're into it. I've lived in NorCal all my life and east of Sac for almost the last 20 (grew up in the Bay Area); obviously I'm biased, but it's a no brainer. But that says more about my tastes than it does what Bakersfield has to offer; check them both out and see which suits you. If most of your life outside of work is riding, you'll be able to have a great time in either place.
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10/15/2015 8:20pm
grimey wrote:
Sacramento, by a landslide. No disrespect to Bakersfield or its residents at all, but IMHO there is a VERY short list of places that I think...
Sacramento, by a landslide.
No disrespect to Bakersfield or its residents at all, but IMHO there is a VERY short list of places that I think are worse than the Bakersfield area to drive through and or stop in.
I am from the north Los Angeles area, and have moved my parents to Sac, actually about 45 east to Placerville, or Rescue CA to be exact.
I am driving to Portland, Oregon this weekend from L.A. up the 5 fwy for the millionth time for work.
I'll just say that I can't wait to get through Bakersfield faster than any other place on that drive. Just being honest with you man, It is what it is :/
EDIT: I know Bakersfield is off the 99 but let's be honest, once you hit that part of central California, roll up your windows, hit the A/C recirc button and pin it. Can't wait to get through it.
Rescue is a nice out of the way community; came down through there Tuesday on the way back down the mountain to home over by Folsom Lake.
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10/15/2015 8:44pm Edited Date/Time 10/15/2015 8:48pm
Check out both places, you'll probably have the right feel. Anywhere at the base of the Sierras north to south is going to give you pretty...
Check out both places, you'll probably have the right feel. Anywhere at the base of the Sierras north to south is going to give you pretty incredible riding opportunities, track and trail. The Sierras and the foothills are awesome recreational areas north to south.

One thing to keep in mind is that as hot as it is up and down the valley, it cools off a lot more, a lot more often, and usually very nicely at night in the summer in the Sacramento area from the Delta breeze that sweeps through the Bay Area as fog and into the valley through the Sacramento River basin. It's like an air conditioning blast that regularly refreshes the Sac area from time to time (not talking cold, but low 70's/high 60's some nights). We're off the air conditioning most of the summer, often even in the high 90 days). That tends to not be the case when you get down toward Fresno/Bakersfield or up toward Red Bluff/Redding, where the cooling dissipates and it doesn't back off as much (unless the Monsoons creep over to the high desert down south). It's not uncommon in the summer for Scottie up in Redding to have nighttime temps 20 degrees hotter, even if the daytime difference might be Redding about 5 degrees hotter than Sac.

I think the quality of community life within the Sacramento area is a lot richer than right around Bakersfield (pretty incredible restaurant scene, decent arts, NBA team and probably an MLS team soon). As people have noted, however, LA is around the corner for that sort of thing if you're in Bakersfield, and Vegas isn't that far if you're into it. I've lived in NorCal all my life and east of Sac for almost the last 20 (grew up in the Bay Area); obviously I'm biased, but it's a no brainer. But that says more about my tastes than it does what Bakersfield has to offer; check them both out and see which suits you. If most of your life outside of work is riding, you'll be able to have a great time in either place.
Some great points. Air temperature and or quality actually has a lot to do with it, FTE is spot on.
Central California tends to have a stagnant air feel to it, almost a sticky heat. It's practically all farm land north and north west of there, and it gets pretty muggy and stinky with all the cows.
Sacramento isn't always the greatest either but its much much better, respectively. There are a lot of rolling hills I would say, that can get pretty dry in the summer. But I've been there when it's snowed about 5 years ago lol It cools down and you do get a breeze.

FTE, yea my parents moved there about 10 years ago from Santa Clarita. Wanted some property, so they bought a decent size home tucked away on 5 acres. She's not secluded, neighbors are close, but I love the Nor-Cal attitude that they have back in there. A lot of her neighbors are from southern california and are retired or about to be. Its hard to explain, but it's like they have that "been there, done that" positive , lend a hand attitude, and I love that. Great people, great area. Visit all the time!
10/15/2015 9:01pm
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Mxjordy 127 what side of town would you reccomend in Bakersfield? Same goes to Sacramento? What part would you reccomend for a median income? As of...
Mxjordy 127 what side of town would you reccomend in Bakersfield?

Same goes to Sacramento? What part would you reccomend for a median income? As of today it looks Like I would be in Sac before Bako
Definitely agree with everyone else NW side or Rosedale. Everything is new, lots of stuff to do, and no real crime issues or other problems that the east side or oildale have
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10/15/2015 9:14pm
The Sierra foothills east of sac are nice. 5 tracks within 55 minutes. A lot of trails and mtn biking too.
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10/15/2015 9:39pm Edited Date/Time 10/15/2015 10:01pm
For the love of god, stay away from Bako.
Listen to this! It's hot, dry, and smells like ass. I have had to go there many times for work. Sure there nice areas but you still can't hide from the bad ones.

On the other hand it's fairly cheap to live there

Do some reading: http://www.city-data.com/forum/california/

I liked Sacramento when I went there. I was in old town and it reminded me of where I grew up in New England. I drove from there and went to a VW show in Antioch. It wasn't so nice there.

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10/15/2015 9:56pm
I work in Bakersfield once a week and party in Sac when I can get away. That should tell you all you need to know! Plus if you like Mountain biking and snowboarding...I don't think you can really pick the south valley.
So many cool places up north too. Swabbie's on the river and cool places in Folsom and Old Sac that have awesome bars within walking distance of each other.
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10/16/2015 2:21am
As someone else mentioned I would look closely at Tehachapi as it's really nice and outside of Bako in the mountains....
10/16/2015 5:54am
There a a few places within an hour of Bakersfield that are great to line for riding. Ive lived in a couple where I could take off from the house and hit the single track. There is nothing better for blowing off some steam from a long day than by getting out on your bike for a bit before dark. If I was moving in, I'm looking for houses near a main riding area (piutes, Gorman, alta Sierra, maricopa/taft). You are obviously smart enough to tell a nice area from a shitty one, so I dont think I need to narrow it down that much. It would depend on what side of the field you were working in too. If you are on the west side you will probably stay away from piutes, alta sierra, lake isabella areas as the commute is too far. Or you could be based at the river and be pretty central
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10/16/2015 5:56am
Homey55 wrote:
Bakersfield is not socal. Those 2 places are probably the worst places in California but, if I had to pick, I would say Sacramento...East.
mxnick wrote:
Worst in California? Worse than Stockton? I would put Stockton as the worst, then Bako...then maybe a place like Susanville, and before Sac....
Love the Barkley Ranch in Stockton

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10/16/2015 7:49am
East Sacramento is really nice, spent lots of time working and riding there. I can't wait to go ride Praire City mx again.
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10/16/2015 9:11am Edited Date/Time 10/16/2015 9:14am


I'm about an hr from sac
- perfect where we're at, we shopped around for 6 months prior about 15 years ago.. Got a killer deal, 4 garages, on a court on a big lot

Take your time, take plenty of notes pics and video

Location location location
Go in a local store or restaurant in a possible area.. To get feel for the quality of life you want


About an hr to prairie city/ Hangtown
1.5 hrs or less to mville and 3 tracks
Oatfield 25 mins

But the best... Hour or so to the foothills
2.5 to the sierras for hitting the slopes
2 hrs to Santa Cruz / Capitola / Monterey / etc

We did SF/ pier 39 and the blue angels on the weekend, 1.5 hrs

Plus Othg if your 30+
Shorter race days/ gang only
Private track day
Tons of good sponsors and deals


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10/16/2015 10:03am
walent215 wrote:
As someone else mentioned I would look closely at Tehachapi as it's really nice and outside of Bako in the mountains....
Trona, CA ... Go look at a map of this place people.
If anybody has a right to talk about location, its this guy!

I remember many trips through this place, on the way to Ballarat where we'd camp for a night. Then take a 3 day jeep trek up over the mountains and down into death valley and back.

What do you do out there Walent, i'd like to hear your story man, thanks!
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10/16/2015 10:10am
walent215 wrote:
As someone else mentioned I would look closely at Tehachapi as it's really nice and outside of Bako in the mountains....
grimey wrote:
Trona, CA ... Go look at a map of this place people. If anybody has a right to talk about location, its this guy! I remember...
Trona, CA ... Go look at a map of this place people.
If anybody has a right to talk about location, its this guy!

I remember many trips through this place, on the way to Ballarat where we'd camp for a night. Then take a 3 day jeep trek up over the mountains and down into death valley and back.

What do you do out there Walent, i'd like to hear your story man, thanks!
Lol....Trona is a very interesting place. ...I work for the chemical company you would always drive by on your way through .....lots more to tell but not on this forum. ..haha! If you ever come this way again feel free to contact me and I'll show you the choice trails/riding etc!
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10/16/2015 10:33am Edited Date/Time 10/16/2015 10:36am
Sounds good brotha!
Not in a million years would I think there'd be a dude posting on vital from Trona. Awesome, small world.
Have you ever been to Ballarat and up through the mountains to Death valley?
If anybody here lives in California and is a jeep/offroad enthusiast, it's one trip you gotta take!
It's a 2-3 day trip starting west of the mountain range, climb up through, and first stop is Charles Manson's ranch! lol
It's basically all in tact, you can walk through the house, even his bathtub is still there outside lol How in the hell he got a school bus back up there is beyond me! We spend the nights in old geological cabins with tents/ sleeping bags etc. Hit elevation and it gets damn right cold. Beautiful valley springs with running streams. Then you go from 75 degree breezy, to 115-120+ degree hell when you drop down into Badwater and through furnace creek. Too fuckin hot to even stop and have a beer. My favorite guys trip by far, we had about 7 Jeeps mostly father/son crews. Great memories!
Anyone else here done that trip? would love to hear it/share stories.

Sorry to get off topic, but we need a new forum or place to post our trips and travels in specific areas. I'd love to hear and see them all, i bet there are plenty!
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10/16/2015 12:13pm
grimey wrote:
Sounds good brotha! Not in a million years would I think there'd be a dude posting on vital from Trona. Awesome, small world. Have you ever...
Sounds good brotha!
Not in a million years would I think there'd be a dude posting on vital from Trona. Awesome, small world.
Have you ever been to Ballarat and up through the mountains to Death valley?
If anybody here lives in California and is a jeep/offroad enthusiast, it's one trip you gotta take!
It's a 2-3 day trip starting west of the mountain range, climb up through, and first stop is Charles Manson's ranch! lol
It's basically all in tact, you can walk through the house, even his bathtub is still there outside lol How in the hell he got a school bus back up there is beyond me! We spend the nights in old geological cabins with tents/ sleeping bags etc. Hit elevation and it gets damn right cold. Beautiful valley springs with running streams. Then you go from 75 degree breezy, to 115-120+ degree hell when you drop down into Badwater and through furnace creek. Too fuckin hot to even stop and have a beer. My favorite guys trip by far, we had about 7 Jeeps mostly father/son crews. Great memories!
Anyone else here done that trip? would love to hear it/share stories.

Sorry to get off topic, but we need a new forum or place to post our trips and travels in specific areas. I'd love to hear and see them all, i bet there are plenty!
It is a great dual sport ride also
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10/16/2015 12:35pm
brocster wrote:
We are sissies here (well most of us anyway) and we piss and moan if our tracks are not wet and fluffy. Ha! Yes i love...
We are sissies here (well most of us anyway) and we piss and moan if our tracks are not wet and fluffy. Ha!

Yes i love to snow board and would love to ride a mountain bike in "mountains!"

I thought Fresno was the armpit of California.

BTW. I'll be in Long Beach for a week starting next Wednesday.

yea
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10/16/2015 1:17pm
brocster wrote:
My current position at work has been eliminated and there is a slight possibility that I could have to re locate to one of the two...
My current position at work has been eliminated and there is a slight possibility that I could have to re locate to one of the two in subject line. Any info that you can share would be greatly appreciated. i.e. moto, best place to live in those areas, other things to do close by etc. etc.
Does it matter Bro? I mean cause your gonna be living on the streets anyways......AKA traffic backed up with 4+ hours delay.

Good Luck Young Man make it happen!
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10/16/2015 1:23pm
grimey wrote:
Sounds good brotha! Not in a million years would I think there'd be a dude posting on vital from Trona. Awesome, small world. Have you ever...
Sounds good brotha!
Not in a million years would I think there'd be a dude posting on vital from Trona. Awesome, small world.
Have you ever been to Ballarat and up through the mountains to Death valley?
If anybody here lives in California and is a jeep/offroad enthusiast, it's one trip you gotta take!
It's a 2-3 day trip starting west of the mountain range, climb up through, and first stop is Charles Manson's ranch! lol
It's basically all in tact, you can walk through the house, even his bathtub is still there outside lol How in the hell he got a school bus back up there is beyond me! We spend the nights in old geological cabins with tents/ sleeping bags etc. Hit elevation and it gets damn right cold. Beautiful valley springs with running streams. Then you go from 75 degree breezy, to 115-120+ degree hell when you drop down into Badwater and through furnace creek. Too fuckin hot to even stop and have a beer. My favorite guys trip by far, we had about 7 Jeeps mostly father/son crews. Great memories!
Anyone else here done that trip? would love to hear it/share stories.

Sorry to get off topic, but we need a new forum or place to post our trips and travels in specific areas. I'd love to hear and see them all, i bet there are plenty!
Oh ya...more than once....pleasant canyon all the way around the "loop" back down thru Briggs camp...awesome day trip! Or towards Barker ranch then down thru striped butte by the talc mine and into Badwater....stay the nite in beatty then come home...we have stayed the nite at the cabin at the top of pleasant also, then came home the next day! Get with me if you ever want to come up and ride. ..we have plenty of room for trailers or you can stay inside!
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10/16/2015 2:59pm
I have lived in Calif. all my life [53yrs], Central and Northern [Folsom, Placerville].
Can't believe nobody has brought up WATER!!!!!!!!
Were looking like we will have a wet winter, but if we don't SoCal will be lucky to have enough to take a shower.
Here in Central Ca wells are drying up like crazy, 8 to 12 month waiting period to have a deeper well drilled, and hopefully the water is decent, and will not have to be treated before home use.
Man I hope we have a wet year, and several more. If what we have experienced over the last 4 years is the new "Normal", Calif will be a very different place.
Northern Ca has the water, lots of it compared to the rest of the state, which mostly would be desert if it wasn't for the water coming from the North supplying the South, might want to give that a little consideration.
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10/16/2015 3:33pm Edited Date/Time 10/16/2015 3:38pm
If you are planing on retirement in 5 years and are planning to move to The OC area, I would lean toward Bakersfield. The price of housing is way less than in Sacramento. Good luck.
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10/16/2015 11:11pm
there are alot worse cities in california than bakersfield ...ive lived in bako pretty much my whole life ...its definitly hot as hell here during the summer months i think this year we had a total of 40 days that were 100 plus ,,the new track is great its right off interstate five at the new car track ..if you decide on bakersfield you would want to live in the northwest / rosedale area like somebody already mentioned . bakersfield also has some superb riding in the hills east of town but only when it rains ...thats where you will find jett reynolds and ryder difrancesco everyday during the rainy days ..overall the town isnt as bad as everyone is saying on here and you are only 2hrs from socal and 2 hours from the beach ..
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10/16/2015 11:20pm
the guy that said he drives up the 5 to work everyday and cant wait to get out of bakersfield must be lost because the 5 doesnt run through bakersfield and you cant really even see bako from the five ...just sayin
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10/17/2015 5:01am Edited Date/Time 10/17/2015 5:17am
As you climb out of Sac...going east into the Sierra foothills...well...there's Moto-Gold in them there hills. The SF bay is just an hour or so west on 80. Snowboarding at Tahoe. Wake-boarding EVERYWHERE. A good airport. Wine country right up the road...

Etc., etc., etc...
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10/17/2015 9:22am
I would check out Tehachapi

better than Sac or Bako
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10/17/2015 9:33am
No Brainer: Sacramento....Tahoe is close for your Snowboarding and SF is really fun for some day or overnight excursions. I heard they have been revitalizing Sacramento's downtown. Northern California is nice. Move up Highway 50 as far as you feel like driving.

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