how in the hell is team USA a B team

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i dont get this at all . the only rider that would have been a shoe in is dungey . Martin is on your A team , Barica has been on your A team twice , so who s to say that he does nt get picked insted of Tomac by the end of the yr , plus the man might not pick tomac, because his consistancy has never been there . the only B team choice is Webb , and that s only because he is riding a 450 . before people say RV he is retired , and JS7 hasnt races in a long time , barica would alway s be picked over him when he has been out so long . i just dreading all this crap if USA win that this was only your B team . its alot stronger team than the USA had a lot of years ,
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bob567 9/26/2015 1:16pm
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Team USA is the best we could send. Win or lose they will represent our country for what it is. I don't consider them a "B" team at all.
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i think most people just feel the usa is a big country with lots and lots of mx racers and has so many more top riders to choose from than the smaller European countries, it gives the usa the chance to have actually maybe five 3-man teams to choose from, any of which is close to any 3-man team from the smaller countries.

therefore it is easy to have what they call a b team
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Regis 9/26/2015 1:20pm
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You could easily argue that Tomac, Dungey and Stewart are the fastest riders in America.

butbwe sent our "A" team and nobody should argue it's a B team. That's dumb.
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JW381 9/26/2015 1:24pm
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I didnt venture into the bench race thread today, but I haven't seen anyone refer to our squad as a B team. 250 champ. Guy that very well could have been 250 champ if not for injury. And 450 runner up. Dungey and Toma would have been great additions. I hope Barcia gets that burst of energy like he did at Budds.

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racinstation 9/26/2015 1:26pm
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Barcia, Webb, and Martin are all "A" class riders....the best we have right now and they will do fine. GO USA!!!!!
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jeffro503 9/26/2015 1:35pm
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The race is actually held on " Dirt " as well , instead of some deep sand track , in which we have no way to practice for that stuff. It even's the playing field when you can get all the riders on a surface that they are accustomed too. " A ", " B ' or " C " team , it doesn't really matter , we have to send who's willing or able to go. Our " A " would of consisted of RD , Tomac and Martin. We sent our 250 champion , a 450 rookie ( that's normally a 250 rider ) and our 3rd fastest 450 rider. That is just plain facts. We have faster guys here , but I think the guys we sent are extremely fast and will damn near fight to the death. That makes up for the lacking a little in the speed dept.
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jeffro503 9/26/2015 1:37pm
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This ^^^
scott_nz 9/26/2015 1:38pm
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Regis wrote:
You could easily argue that Tomac, Dungey and Stewart are the fastest riders in America. butbwe sent our "A" team and nobody should argue it's a...
You could easily argue that Tomac, Dungey and Stewart are the fastest riders in America.

butbwe sent our "A" team and nobody should argue it's a B team. That's dumb.
stewart has not been picked for a des nations team in nearly 10 years, so i can't see who he would be a picked as a a rider,

Martin is a 2 time and current 250F champ, no way anyone gets picked ahead of him

Barcia was the 2nd US rider in the nationals, so its not a big thing for him to be picked, only Webb on teh 450 is the only person you could not pick as a 1st string rider,

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A B C D
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h&m_cycle 9/26/2015 1:41pm
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Dungey Tomac Martin... Without them, all our current (other 2 riders) are still First Tier Riders... I don't know who would argue with that...
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cody331 9/26/2015 1:47pm
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Wasn't it Luongo or MXGeoff who created the ad stating we (US) were the underdogs because we were basically sending our B team?
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gt80rider 9/26/2015 1:53pm
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Our "A" team would be dungey, rv2, stew, or tomac with Martin. Barcia has never won a national title, nor has webb, hence the reason it is a "B" team....
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Roger chose the riders that were able and willing to go. That's the A-team. If Dungey., Tomac., Bubba., and RV had their hands raised and The Man didn't pick them....then it would be our "B" team. I believe this is our A team. They don't look bad to me.
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FlaNard 9/26/2015 2:08pm
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How many teams have their absolute best with no riders out or riding injured? We sent the best team available just like everyone else. No excuses.
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Julian wrote:
i think most people just feel the usa is a big country with lots and lots of mx racers and has so many more top riders...
i think most people just feel the usa is a big country with lots and lots of mx racers and has so many more top riders to choose from than the smaller European countries, it gives the usa the chance to have actually maybe five 3-man teams to choose from, any of which is close to any 3-man team from the smaller countries.

therefore it is easy to have what they call a b team
That may have been true 10-20 years back but I really think that's not the case today. Far fewer people race in America than used to. Many tracks have closed or are threatening closure due to either noise or overall low attendance. We have enough riders to field one maybe two "A" teams then the talent falls in line with average.
GoldenState54 9/26/2015 2:11pm
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The "B Team" will just sound better when we win.
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jeffro503 9/26/2015 2:11pm
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Bottom line is there is no asterisk next to the winning team. And hopefully the damned lappers get the hell out of the way!! That's all we need is to have them screw up the guys at the front.
queen of spodes 9/26/2015 2:14pm
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GoldenState54 wrote:
The "B Team" will just sound better when we win.
Odds are that isn't happening tomorrow, unless something catastrophic happens to Paulin, Febvre or Musquin. If our guys stay upright and have good starts we should manage a podium but even that isn't guaranteed.

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Parris 9/26/2015 2:16pm
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Can you name the riders on this winning B team? Who was on the "A" team and why didn't they ride the MXDN??
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plowboy 9/26/2015 2:22pm
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GoldenState54 wrote:
The "B Team" will just sound better when we win.
queen of spodes wrote:
Odds are that isn't happening tomorrow, unless something catastrophic happens to Paulin, Febvre or Musquin. If our guys stay upright and have good starts we should...
Odds are that isn't happening tomorrow, unless something catastrophic happens to Paulin, Febvre or Musquin. If our guys stay upright and have good starts we should manage a podium but even that isn't guaranteed.
All 3 of our guys are good starters....not to be a dick but the Frenchies need some bad luck and we need the good kind. Same thing every non-French team is hoping for. It's the Nations....anything can happen.
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bobby397 9/26/2015 2:34pm
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Parris wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/09/26/106296/s1200_team_b.jpg[/img] Can you name the riders on this winning B team? Who was on the "A" team and why didn't they ride the MXDN??


Can you name the riders on this winning B team? Who was on the "A" team and why didn't they ride the MXDN??
The riders in the picture I believe are Larocco, Liles, and Emig. I don't believe Bradshaw and Stanton wanted to go or the were injured, and I wanna say maybe Several others were asked and denied to go forcing them to ask Liles?
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GoldenState54 wrote:
The "B Team" will just sound better when we win.
queen of spodes wrote:
Odds are that isn't happening tomorrow, unless something catastrophic happens to Paulin, Febvre or Musquin. If our guys stay upright and have good starts we should...
Odds are that isn't happening tomorrow, unless something catastrophic happens to Paulin, Febvre or Musquin. If our guys stay upright and have good starts we should manage a podium but even that isn't guaranteed.
plowboy wrote:
All 3 of our guys are good starters....not to be a dick but the Frenchies need some bad luck and we need the good kind. Same...
All 3 of our guys are good starters....not to be a dick but the Frenchies need some bad luck and we need the good kind. Same thing every non-French team is hoping for. It's the Nations....anything can happen.
this , i think Weather J mart get s 2 good starts or not ,is whats going to decide it , he has had some terrible starts all year . if the US get good starts and france dont . the US win imo . same goes the other way
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Kawasaki572 9/26/2015 2:36pm
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So what the hell do you want them to be called? The "A team"? No, we'll call the Americans the A+ team. Marvin wrist is still injured, and Paulin is still recovering from the heat at Glen Helen, and Febvre had a tip over last weekend and injured himself. Plus, the damn crowd is loud as fuck every time the French come around, so they could hardly hear their bikes, that's not fair, so we'll call the French the C team. There, you happy?
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Only idiots or excuse makers would consider this our B team. You could "what if" until the friggin cows come home. Tomac is hurt. Stewart can't be counted on. Dungey isn't motivated for euro races and we all know what happens at MXDN when he isn't motivated.

Our team is solid. They are hungry and seem to be enjoying racing.

The same cannot be said for Stewart, Dungey, RV.

This is why we run the races.....

I'm stoked with the USA team!
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I would not call this team the "B Team." Its loaded with speed, race intelligence and EXPERIENCE (Both Barcia and JMart have MXDN experience).

That said, a healthy and motivated Stewart, Dungey, Tomac, Villopoto or Canard would be better options.

I dig this team. These riders will fucking will bring the heat. Do not give the trophy to France yet.
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bob567 9/26/2015 4:40pm
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Ah I get it. The imaginary "A" team would be comprised of riders that are injured (Tomac), don't want to race (Dungey), haven't raced this year (Stewart) and just retired (RV). Yeah that's an iron clad belief system. Holy balls how fucken delusional can people be?
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PressPassP 9/26/2015 4:47pm
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Dungey cant really be considered because he didn't want to race,Webb replaced him,that's the only amendment as Barcia and Martin had great seasons and would've been picked anyway

The most unfortunate thing for you guys is that Tomac got hurt as it's certain that he'd been in and Webb wouldn't have

I still say the fastest on the team is Webb in hindsight,he's looking like the fastest out of the gate too and anything can happen tomorrow as we know,so many top riders out from all over which often mix things up near the front one way or another
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Titan1 9/26/2015 5:15pm
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It's the B team because It's not Dungey, Tomac and Martin. And because our top 2 450 riders from the national championship aren't on it. And because we have a 250 rider on a 450.

It doesn't matter how you slice it, if every active rider in America was willing and healthy, there is no way in the world ANYONE in America would think this is the best team we could send, therefore it's a B team.
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TXDirt 9/26/2015 5:20pm
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And if Decoster and RC and Hannah weren't retired they would be on the team too. Love this logic you have going on. Whistling
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Titan1 9/26/2015 5:27pm
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TXDirt wrote:
And if Decoster and RC and Hannah weren't retired they would be on the team too. Love this logic you have going on. Whistling
No they wouldn't...they aren't "active" riders...

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