2015 France MXDN Bench Racing - Quali's

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bsharkey 9/26/2015 1:53pm
9/26/2015 1:53pm Edited Date/Time 9/26/2015 1:54pm
I think the biggest question is its pretty dang obvious france and usa have this thing locked down pretty good.with all the injured riders out it seems the spoilers are pretty limited. so baring no crazy crashes or bad starts what if both teams go 1-2 tomorrow halfway thru the motos? because its looks like that could happen , do our guys say wth and go for broke instead of getting second
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A couple 15th place starts for the French team could make things very interesting. Bummer that we are missing so many top riders from all over the world. Good racing today shaping up to be a good showdown tomorrow when we get some of those backmarkers of the track.
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jeffro503 wrote:
I honestly don't think Jeremy was pushing it. When he does , he's a little more erratic. He looked super smooth and as if he was...
I honestly don't think Jeremy was pushing it. When he does , he's a little more erratic. He looked super smooth and as if he was trying new things out there while scoping the track. Sure he was riding hard , but I think he's saving something for tomorrow.
Yeah, I think it is the same with Marvin, I noticed he was only twisting the throttle 80%, and he used 2nd and 3th gear only on his KTM... Think he is saving the bike for tomorrow Silly
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Question 9/26/2015 1:57pm
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Faster today does not mean faster on race day.

What surprises me a bit, but not much, is that with so many injuries, the leaders are a bit above the field. That is why the MX2 motos will be even more crucial than usual.

I wanted to have a more accurate analysis, so looking at youthstream website, I found AMAZING that Musquin and Martin are capable to match the MX1 and MX3 speed (overall race time). Indeed, from today's results, the motos would have looked like this:

MX1 MX2
Musquin
Martin
Paulin
Townley
Barcia (who was catching Townley and would have on a longer moto)

MX2 Open
Febvre
Webb
Musquin
Martin
Van Horebeek

MX1 Open
Febvre
Webb
Paulin
Townley
Barcia (who was catching Townley and would have on a longer moto)

Based on what I said previously the score can be reversed depending on the starts, etc. That should make the winning team in the 8-10 points, and the second team in the 11-14. I can be totally wrong, but if these scores happens, I think that it would very very rare to see that, the second team with less than let us say 12 points. That should be a huge battle, the pressure in the MX1 Open race will be crazy !






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RichardLoots 9/26/2015 1:57pm
9/26/2015 1:57pm Edited Date/Time 9/26/2015 2:03pm
jeffro503 wrote:
I honestly don't think Jeremy was pushing it. When he does , he's a little more erratic. He looked super smooth and as if he was...
I honestly don't think Jeremy was pushing it. When he does , he's a little more erratic. He looked super smooth and as if he was trying new things out there while scoping the track. Sure he was riding hard , but I think he's saving something for tomorrow.
could be right , remember it was a qualifying race so 2nd spot is an excellent pick and no need to go full throttle and take risks .... but we wont know until tomorrow Wink fact is without the normal spoilers like Cairoli , Herlings etc ...its gonna be really tight as we tomorrow could see all 3 races end up in a 1-1 1-2 or 2-1 for usa or france as they looked to be a league of their own ....
roundtheoutside 9/26/2015 2:24pm
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Febvre and Webb are both riders of the year in their series imo. Febvre sure has an advantage on home soil this weekend but anything can happen tomorrow.
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moto282 9/26/2015 4:25pm
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2strokerider wrote:
Febvre also won on american soil last week, and is world champion. .. not like hes 'just' won a qualifying race. I think he will dominate...
Febvre also won on american soil last week, and is world champion. .. not like hes 'just' won a qualifying race. I think he will dominate tomorrow too. Hes on fire at the minute
Febvre is definitely on fire and I also don't think any racers at MXDN will beat him tomorrow. My point was that last weekend you guys were downplaying the U.S. sweeping qualifying on home soil but this weekend you aren't when the French do it on their.
Holtslayer 9/26/2015 5:21pm
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jamma10 wrote:
"Incident terrible!" You're not wrong!

Anstie Crash
Looks like he was clipped rather than landed on as the other guy seemed to stay on. Couple more metres and it would have been much worse.
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ocscottie 9/26/2015 6:16pm
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The...........wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round...Blink Laughing

I swear you guys never stop lol

I am so thrashed today. Was basically up for 24 hours w/ F1 and the MXDN, but did get a few hours sleep this afternoon.

Gonna do it all over again tonight, F1 from 9pm to 1am, then MXDN at 4am'ish. Tomorrow ill be toast! Blink

...carry on.
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The...........wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round...:blink: :laugh: I swear you guys never stop lol I am so thrashed today. Was basically...
The...........wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round...Blink Laughing

I swear you guys never stop lol

I am so thrashed today. Was basically up for 24 hours w/ F1 and the MXDN, but did get a few hours sleep this afternoon.

Gonna do it all over again tonight, F1 from 9pm to 1am, then MXDN at 4am'ish. Tomorrow ill be toast! Blink

...carry on.
I'm sure if we were all in the same room watching this shit together we'd have a pretty awesome time!
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WE WILL WHIP ASS AGAIN! whatever
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Connard 9/26/2015 8:42pm
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Poor Febvre must not be easy getting stuck behind a lapper... just kiding pretty good race from Webb it's gonna be epic tomorrow



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Question wrote:
Faster today does not mean faster on race day. What surprises me a bit, but not much, is that with so many injuries, the leaders are...
Faster today does not mean faster on race day.

What surprises me a bit, but not much, is that with so many injuries, the leaders are a bit above the field. That is why the MX2 motos will be even more crucial than usual.

I wanted to have a more accurate analysis, so looking at youthstream website, I found AMAZING that Musquin and Martin are capable to match the MX1 and MX3 speed (overall race time). Indeed, from today's results, the motos would have looked like this:

MX1 MX2
Musquin
Martin
Paulin
Townley
Barcia (who was catching Townley and would have on a longer moto)

MX2 Open
Febvre
Webb
Musquin
Martin
Van Horebeek

MX1 Open
Febvre
Webb
Paulin
Townley
Barcia (who was catching Townley and would have on a longer moto)

Based on what I said previously the score can be reversed depending on the starts, etc. That should make the winning team in the 8-10 points, and the second team in the 11-14. I can be totally wrong, but if these scores happens, I think that it would very very rare to see that, the second team with less than let us say 12 points. That should be a huge battle, the pressure in the MX1 Open race will be crazy !








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kongols 9/26/2015 9:32pm
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jeffro503 wrote:
I honestly don't think Jeremy was pushing it. When he does , he's a little more erratic. He looked super smooth and as if he was...
I honestly don't think Jeremy was pushing it. When he does , he's a little more erratic. He looked super smooth and as if he was trying new things out there while scoping the track. Sure he was riding hard , but I think he's saving something for tomorrow.
DP#201 wrote:
Yeah, I think it is the same with Marvin, I noticed he was only twisting the throttle 80%, and he used 2nd and 3th gear only...
Yeah, I think it is the same with Marvin, I noticed he was only twisting the throttle 80%, and he used 2nd and 3th gear only on his KTM... Think he is saving the bike for tomorrow Silly
What if I tell you factory KTM has only 3 gears?
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jeffro503 9/26/2015 9:36pm
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jeffro503 wrote:
I honestly don't think Jeremy was pushing it. When he does , he's a little more erratic. He looked super smooth and as if he was...
I honestly don't think Jeremy was pushing it. When he does , he's a little more erratic. He looked super smooth and as if he was trying new things out there while scoping the track. Sure he was riding hard , but I think he's saving something for tomorrow.
DP#201 wrote:
Yeah, I think it is the same with Marvin, I noticed he was only twisting the throttle 80%, and he used 2nd and 3th gear only...
Yeah, I think it is the same with Marvin, I noticed he was only twisting the throttle 80%, and he used 2nd and 3th gear only on his KTM... Think he is saving the bike for tomorrow Silly
You could be right Goat! Marvin is super fast and I in no way was down playing what he did in the qualifier. I think Jeremy would of had to push way top hard to even catch Marv , and for qualifiers it just wasn't worth it. And you're also right about Marv looking super smooth. He probably had a lot more in the tank.
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What the hell!...The Brit got the hole shot on me...Grinning
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Connard wrote:
Poor Febvre must not be easy getting stuck behind a lapper... just kiding pretty good race from Webb it's gonna be epic tomorrow [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/09/26/106349/s1200_12033018_10153617702273560_7341773418113795741_n.jpg[/img]
Poor Febvre must not be easy getting stuck behind a lapper... just kiding pretty good race from Webb it's gonna be epic tomorrow



Awesome pic!
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jeffro503 9/26/2015 10:27pm
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machine wrote:
What the hell!...The Brit got the hole shot on me...Grinning
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Sandwarrior752 9/26/2015 11:10pm
9/26/2015 11:10pm
2 hours 40 minutes to go for the B-final.

Here are the 19 countries that made it into the ''main events'' for today!

1. FRANCE – 2 pts
2. USA – 4 pts
3. BELGIUM – 8 pts
4. GERMANY – 10 pts
5. NEW ZEALAND – 10 pts
6. NETHERLANDS – 12 pts
7. SPAIN – 13 pts
8. AUSTRIA – 14 pts
9. SWITZERLAND – 15 pts
10. ESTONIA – 16 pts
11. AUSTRALIA – 16 pts
12. GREAT BRITAIN – 16 pts
13. SWEDEN – 21 pts
14. ITALY – 26 pts
15. IRELAND – 27 pts
16. DENMARK – 27 pts
17. RUSSIA – 27 pts
18. PORTUGAL – 29 pts
19. LATVIA – 29 pts

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Catching the end of the F1 GP of Japan for now, sleepless night really Silly
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DP#201 9/26/2015 11:24pm
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kongols wrote:
What if I tell you factory KTM has only 3 gears?
That would explain why he was only using 2nd and 3th Smile but i am sure the factory 250 has more than 3 gears Huh
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ocscottie 9/27/2015 12:34am
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Early morning warm ups have began with Romain starting right where he left off...2sec a lap faster than the 2nd place rider. Marvin is in 3rd!

Wonder how they decide who goes in what session?

The race thread will start about 15min before the gate drops for moto 1. I need to try and take a little cat nap. Just use this thread for race discussion for now.
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kongols 9/27/2015 12:38am
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kongols wrote:
What if I tell you factory KTM has only 3 gears?
DP#201 wrote:
That would explain why he was only using 2nd and 3th Smile but i am sure the factory 250 has more than 3 gears Huh
What if I tell you it doesn`t?
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Thank God Jonass is on a line. There was real concern he damaged his knee yesterday.
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SHIT! i missed the screenshot of the 1st warm up session, was making a sammich. Blink
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