Roczen's Dad on RCH

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8/21/2015 11:03am
philG wrote:
RC couldn't set a bike up to save his life, what he could do was hang off anything and make it win.
He's not much for excuses either. I think RC might be doing the best thing for KR by staying away from the situation.
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8/21/2015 11:10am
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ya know what is really bizarre about all of this is what actually is Rickys involvement with the team????? he was known as one of the...
ya know what is really bizarre about all of this is what actually is Rickys involvement with the team?????

he was known as one of the pickiest MF'rs EVER when it came to bike set up, gear and equipment, tires.........

why would he not step in and totally go to bat for his guy to make sure he was 110% happy with whatever???

really f'n crazy Shocked Shocked
RC only changed his bike setup after MXA made fun of it. Smile
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Julian wrote:
RC

take your ego out of the equation

and then Kenny will win
Bob693 wrote:
How exactly is RC's ego keeping Ken from winning?
I want to know that too...
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peelout wrote:
holy shit... been remodeling the house the last couple days, take some time away from here and i miss a 20 pager?! anyone want to give...
holy shit... been remodeling the house the last couple days, take some time away from here and i miss a 20 pager?!

anyone want to give me cliff notes of what i missed?

i read the OP, fuckin' WOW that's some straight up "this team sucks" shit right there!
mx_563 wrote:
Cliff Notes: Other than a bunch of squabbling over whether or not there is merit to what Heiko said, the only factual information that has come...
Cliff Notes:

Other than a bunch of squabbling over whether or not there is merit to what Heiko said, the only factual information that has come out of these 21 pages is that Heiko’s last name is Klepka, not Roczen.

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8/21/2015 12:17pm
Damn...this Topic shows how many ass clowns there are in the sport. Do you mothers know
your playing on the net?

Like a bunch of trophy wives sitting around bitching about nothing.

Tennis anyone?

Like Hannah said when he beat Ken, I rode a tub of lard that weighed 30 LBs more than his
RM and rode him into the ground.
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coolhand wrote:
Damn...this Topic shows how many ass clowns there are in the sport. Do you mothers know your playing on the net? Like a bunch of trophy...
Damn...this Topic shows how many ass clowns there are in the sport. Do you mothers know
your playing on the net?

Like a bunch of trophy wives sitting around bitching about nothing.

Tennis anyone?

Like Hannah said when he beat Ken, I rode a tub of lard that weighed 30 LBs more than his
RM and rode him into the ground.
that reminds me of when Phil Mickelson basically said that Tiger is on a completely different level than everyone because he was using shit clubs and still kicking everyone's asses
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to bob693 and sende

when there is a team like roger decoster's ktm team, decisions are made based on what is going to improve the situation so that the rider can achieve better results.

when you have a person like RC making decisions, the decisions are made based more on what will make RC "look good" rather than what is good for the results of the team.

DeCoster wants his team riders to win

RC wants RC to "look" good

get it ?
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Julian wrote:
to bob693 and sende when there is a team like roger decoster's ktm team, decisions are made based on what is going to improve the situation...
to bob693 and sende

when there is a team like roger decoster's ktm team, decisions are made based on what is going to improve the situation so that the rider can achieve better results.

when you have a person like RC making decisions, the decisions are made based more on what will make RC "look good" rather than what is good for the results of the team.

DeCoster wants his team riders to win

RC wants RC to "look" good

get it ?
Yes, I got yout point, but I was mostly curious on how you got the bright idea that RC is trying only to "look good" than to help the team riders to win? Sure the man does more than RC to help his riders, but I still think that you swinged and missed in your arrogance argument.
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The full story was a pretty good fishing !



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Julian wrote:
to bob693 and sende when there is a team like roger decoster's ktm team, decisions are made based on what is going to improve the situation...
to bob693 and sende

when there is a team like roger decoster's ktm team, decisions are made based on what is going to improve the situation so that the rider can achieve better results.

when you have a person like RC making decisions, the decisions are made based more on what will make RC "look good" rather than what is good for the results of the team.

DeCoster wants his team riders to win

RC wants RC to "look" good

get it ?
Really?? I'm so amazed at how friggin clueless some of you are....
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Julian wrote:
to bob693 and sende when there is a team like roger decoster's ktm team, decisions are made based on what is going to improve the situation...
to bob693 and sende

when there is a team like roger decoster's ktm team, decisions are made based on what is going to improve the situation so that the rider can achieve better results.

when you have a person like RC making decisions, the decisions are made based more on what will make RC "look good" rather than what is good for the results of the team.

DeCoster wants his team riders to win

RC wants RC to "look" good

get it ?
Oh I get it bud...I get it that that you're a total squirrel.
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8/21/2015 5:19pm
I just wanted to be involved in this....


I can't wait for RC or Harts response at some point.
8/21/2015 5:23pm Edited Date/Time 8/21/2015 5:24pm
Screw hearing RC's response... I can't wait to hear Kenny Watson's response! Coy Gibbs must be shaking his head laughing... lol

Both need to get onto the Pulp Mx Show and discuss.
8/21/2015 5:29pm
I kinda thought RC's involvement was more to bring the factory Suzuki to their rig. Hart is great at marketing and Ricky's name on the rig is good for business and a factory bike: it seems like a win-win. Maybe he isn't really supposed to be involved.
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Keep calm and...

Shave 2" off your seat and run 146mm of race sag
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Julian wrote:
to bob693 and sende when there is a team like roger decoster's ktm team, decisions are made based on what is going to improve the situation...
to bob693 and sende

when there is a team like roger decoster's ktm team, decisions are made based on what is going to improve the situation so that the rider can achieve better results.

when you have a person like RC making decisions, the decisions are made based more on what will make RC "look good" rather than what is good for the results of the team.

DeCoster wants his team riders to win

RC wants RC to "look" good

get it ?
RC might want to back of the cheeseburgers first
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I cant read through 21 pages but I just have 2 questions...

Why is kens dads last name not Roczen and why cant he speak a lick of English and ken sounds like its his first language?

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peelout wrote:
that reminds me of when Phil Mickelson basically said that Tiger is on a completely different level than everyone because he was using shit clubs and...
that reminds me of when Phil Mickelson basically said that Tiger is on a completely different level than everyone because he was using shit clubs and still kicking everyone's asses
Yeah those old style Titleist Blades are hard to hit...
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jloucks742 wrote:
I cant read through 21 pages but I just have 2 questions... Why is kens dads last name not Roczen and why cant he speak a...
I cant read through 21 pages but I just have 2 questions...

Why is kens dads last name not Roczen and why cant he speak a lick of English and ken sounds like its his first language?

In Germany it's not uncommon for a child to take the mothers last name as was discussed earlier in the thread.

And Ken Roczen immersed himself in the language right after moving here to make sure he learned the language and communicate. He's spent far more time here than his father has and for different purpose.

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jloucks742 wrote:
I cant read through 21 pages but I just have 2 questions... Why is kens dads last name not Roczen and why cant he speak a...
I cant read through 21 pages but I just have 2 questions...

Why is kens dads last name not Roczen and why cant he speak a lick of English and ken sounds like its his first language?

Good Questions.... It seems Kenny spent a lot of time over here... Here's his 2008 Loretta Lynn Results...

Kenny got beat by Jimmy D. "The Rippa"





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8/21/2015 7:45pm Edited Date/Time 8/21/2015 7:52pm
jloucks742 wrote:
I cant read through 21 pages but I just have 2 questions... Why is kens dads last name not Roczen and why cant he speak a...
I cant read through 21 pages but I just have 2 questions...

Why is kens dads last name not Roczen and why cant he speak a lick of English and ken sounds like its his first language?

h&m_cycle wrote:
[b]Good Questions....[/b] It seems Kenny spent a lot of time over here... Here's his 2008 Loretta Lynn Results... Kenny got beat by Jimmy D. [b]"The Rippa"[/b]...
Good Questions.... It seems Kenny spent a lot of time over here... Here's his 2008 Loretta Lynn Results...

Kenny got beat by Jimmy D. "The Rippa"





I love when past Loretta results show up. Really makes you look at all the names and finishes and think about where everyone's at now.

edit - thanks for the quick answers to my questions that I could have found by reading through the pages. Instant gratification, almost like being extremely hungry at home and opening up the fridge and seeing exactly what you wanted!
8/21/2015 8:47pm Edited Date/Time 8/21/2015 8:56pm
How about Austin Howell with the moto win over those big names (some very wealthy now). What's he doing now? Sorry to get off topic but the topic at hand is not progressing much.
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In at 11 and 22. See you at page 33
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Yeah well they won't have to worry about him next year... Can't believe these guys wait till thy finally get things figured out than change everything...
Yeah well they won't have to worry about him next year... Can't believe these guys wait till thy finally get things figured out than change everything and that goes for the factories as well du get will win again both titles probably he's the only one with no changes and no isssues
You make it sound like he signed the contract without having ridden the bike. Shocking as it may seem, he's ridden the bike for next year...
You make it sound like he signed the contract without having ridden the bike. Shocking as it may seem, he's ridden the bike for next year already somewhere and obviously feels as though it's a platform he can do well on. This wasn't a blind decision.

Shane
Yeah but now we have a wrench thrown into the equation with dual fucked up shoulders leaving no time to prepare Eli will struggle in 16 at least in the beginning and it really sucks but I don't see it happening any other way
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8/22/2015 12:31am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2019 3:55pm
jloucks742 wrote:
I cant read through 21 pages but I just have 2 questions... Why is kens dads last name not Roczen and why cant he speak a...
I cant read through 21 pages but I just have 2 questions...

Why is kens dads last name not Roczen and why cant he speak a lick of English and ken sounds like its his first language?

In Germany it's not uncommon for a child to take the mothers last name as was discussed earlier in the thread. And Ken Roczen immersed himself...
In Germany it's not uncommon for a child to take the mothers last name as was discussed earlier in the thread.

And Ken Roczen immersed himself in the language right after moving here to make sure he learned the language and communicate. He's spent far more time here than his father has and for different purpose.

Shane
Ahah at least we have learned something since page 1 ! Woohoo (about taking the mother's last name being not uncommon in Germany. In France it is only if they are not married, and we do a bit of double name Smile )
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Julian wrote:
to bob693 and sende when there is a team like roger decoster's ktm team, decisions are made based on what is going to improve the situation...
to bob693 and sende

when there is a team like roger decoster's ktm team, decisions are made based on what is going to improve the situation so that the rider can achieve better results.

when you have a person like RC making decisions, the decisions are made based more on what will make RC "look good" rather than what is good for the results of the team.

DeCoster wants his team riders to win

RC wants RC to "look" good

get it ?
sende wrote:
Yes, I got yout point, but I was mostly curious on how you got the bright idea that RC is trying only to "look good" than...
Yes, I got yout point, but I was mostly curious on how you got the bright idea that RC is trying only to "look good" than to help the team riders to win? Sure the man does more than RC to help his riders, but I still think that you swinged and missed in your arrogance argument.
I have no idea how RC's team is run - I just read what KR's dad told the German magazine.
From what I see of RC these days, he does come across as being ego driven
and after reading the words of Ken's dad, it all seems to make sense. It would be very strange if Ken's dad said those things about RC if they were not true so I assume it is the truth and as you can also read, KR's dad said that RC did not want to take the help of KR's suspension guy nor the help from other sources - I assume because it would make RC look like he does not know how to get the job done in his own team - hence the comment I made about taking the ego out...
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jloucks742 wrote:
I cant read through 21 pages but I just have 2 questions... Why is kens dads last name not Roczen and why cant he speak a...
I cant read through 21 pages but I just have 2 questions...

Why is kens dads last name not Roczen and why cant he speak a lick of English and ken sounds like its his first language?

h&m_cycle wrote:
[b]Good Questions....[/b] It seems Kenny spent a lot of time over here... Here's his 2008 Loretta Lynn Results... Kenny got beat by Jimmy D. [b]"The Rippa"[/b]...
Good Questions.... It seems Kenny spent a lot of time over here... Here's his 2008 Loretta Lynn Results...

Kenny got beat by Jimmy D. "The Rippa"





jloucks742 wrote:
I love when past Loretta results show up. Really makes you look at all the names and finishes and think about where everyone's at now. edit...
I love when past Loretta results show up. Really makes you look at all the names and finishes and think about where everyone's at now.

edit - thanks for the quick answers to my questions that I could have found by reading through the pages. Instant gratification, almost like being extremely hungry at home and opening up the fridge and seeing exactly what you wanted!

Interesting indeed.

Crazy he was like ... 14 years and 3 months old ?

Also wondering what happened to the others riders in this list like Cody Robbins, Travis Bright, Aaron Siminoe, Jonathan Foskey, Kyle Engle, Johnny Jelderda. Have they turned pro as privateers ?

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h&m_cycle wrote:
[b]Good Questions....[/b] It seems Kenny spent a lot of time over here... Here's his 2008 Loretta Lynn Results... Kenny got beat by Jimmy D. [b]"The Rippa"[/b]...
Good Questions.... It seems Kenny spent a lot of time over here... Here's his 2008 Loretta Lynn Results...

Kenny got beat by Jimmy D. "The Rippa"





Wow, it's amazing how much speed he picked up in a year



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Roczen in 2007 was really small, a real kid, on that 450 !

He must have picked up some speed but I think the main difference was his growth so he could handle the bike better.

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8/22/2015 6:11am
I don't know if this has been brought up because I can't handle reading through 22 pages of this but I've been wondering if Ricky is going to try pull off a crazy fast lap to try to show up Kenny today. All I know is this seems like a bad situation for everyone involved.

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