Cairoli on his injury and RV retire

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Lots of threads about RV ! Well that is his choice.

He brought a fantastic style in racing, so agressive that it was often as interesting to watch him as JS7. He won a lot of races and is in my mind so far the fastest MX250 rider and best SX rider of the last few years (not decade since it is from 2006 to 2014..., half half...).

He was over it after over training during his whole career. I think he really tried to win in MXGP, just to make the move was already a huge thing, but his settings were not good at the beginning of the season, his bike was reacting too much. To score some big points, he had to take some risks, it ended up pretty bad, which was a high probability anyway since the leaders and himself are always on the limits. The way he retire, well, @ Glen Helen would have been nice, for the industry, fans, promoter, but his injury was a scary one, I feel he does not want to risk another big one. (You know, like "us" when we go to make the last laps of the day, it ends up quite often on the ground)

What I will remember is not the way he retired or how this season went but the way he won many of his races in MX and SX, the way he saved the US at the MXdN in France in 2011, or the way he made one of the best races of all time, the MXdN in Budds Creek.

Thanks for the show, happy retirement RV2 !
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i honestly think RV owes nothing to anyone . if he want to retire ,he has every right to . i do understand what AC222 and...
i honestly think RV owes nothing to anyone . if he want to retire ,he has every right to . i do understand what AC222 and jmb are saying . but they dont have or never have to put up with the ,crap fan boy american fan. the same fan who blasts RD5 the last few years at MXON, (even tho he was top USA scorer each year ) the same kind of fan that was that ASSHOLE who was giving out about RD5 not signing his boys throphy!!. the same ASSHOLE S who have been giving out non stop all year that RV should nt of went to MXGP he owed it to the US fans to ride his last year in the US. but now that AC222 and JMB said the same there the ones taking crap?? the same fans that use to be die hard RV fans and hate RD . then the min he left for mxgp . there die hard RD 5 fans ???? ,theres alot of really cool fans and posters on vital . but one thing i have learnt is there are far far far far to many fan boy s(assholes) .and if i was RV i would give too crap s about you s either . this is hard for a caroli or JMB to understand because they have proper die hard MX fan s of theres . people here have said sure how can JMB talk .they way he left . but its like (as nearly every US fan does) forget ,he is not from the US. when he retired he made sure to do loads of stuff for for his true fans eg loads of stuff in france !!!!!!!!!!!! thats what he is refering to. ive met RV he was one of the nicest and funniest riders ive met . ive major respect for him . and imo the way the crapy fans in the USA treat there riders .iam not surprised he does care about 90% of you s . go look up any threads from here the last 3 years you s lost the MXON , the way some of you so called fans treat your riders is terrible !!!!!!!!!! rant over (ps ,the 15% of proper USA MXfans are prob the best in the world out of any )
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As a big RV fan, I wish this could have gone better myself. Its like your girlfriend breaking up with you with a text message. But...
As a big RV fan, I wish this could have gone better myself. Its like your girlfriend breaking up with you with a text message.

But. ..it's his call and his life, we don't pay his bills. ..
"Its like your girlfriend breaking up with you with a text message.", that pretty sums it up IMHO.
I think most of you see things that are not actually there in most of the posts from those that have that same feeling.
RV IS a champ, he IS one of the fastest ever, he DOES have the rights to do whatever he wants, but that doesn't mean he did it in style. A last, glorious, appearance in Glen Helen would have been the best way to end his career and I still don't see how anybody can not agree with this.
And I said "appearance", not "work your butt out (no pun intended) and win the race", just show up at the gate and ride two laps. Simple as that, but I think it would make a big difference.
But everything went wrong again into this ridiculous America vs Europe, Ama vs Gps and now with this "the Brits" (how about the Fins, the Itas, the Nlds...)...
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What does me calling you out for trying to get someone to respond with the bait you laid out have to do with National pride??
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Did you read the post I was responding to in the first instance? Decide who laid the bait. Anyway back on subject....RV rode like a champ...
Did you read the post I was responding to in the first instance? Decide who laid the bait.

Anyway back on subject....RV rode like a champ, went out like a chump
I would say Mr Greenney is the master baiter!

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johnmx250 7/12/2015 5:21am
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All of them who say that for the way he retired shows how much of a rider he is and his great impact at both ponds
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Sounds like RV may have lost a little bit of respect within the paddock. Not that he cares of course
I know this is dragged from the first page, but I think this nails it on both points. Personally, I get it that RV was more than ready to hang up his boots. I get it that he got hurt, is probably on the mend...and may be for a while yet. I get it that he was basically forced to race to fulfill contracts with Kawie & Monster...and that its all about the Benjamins. What I'll never get is RV's attitude. It's like, after all this time, after he's made all this money & has this horde of fans...he just basically flips everybody off & walks away...only after publishing a dear-john letter that clearly he didn't write himself.

I mean...if Ryan had to put on a happy face (or as close to one as he ever put on, anyway...) to race his last couple of seasons, what would a bit more have hurt...especially since his doc cleared him to race? He could have gone out with a much higher level of respect from his peers & his fans, whether he won or not. At least he nutted up & gave it a go.

As it is now, RV will be known as a multi-time champion, one of the best riders ever...and a quitter, who didn't give a damn. That's kind of a sad legacy IMO.

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Lots of threads about RV ! Well that is his choice. He brought a fantastic style in racing, so agressive that it was often as interesting...

Lots of threads about RV ! Well that is his choice.

He brought a fantastic style in racing, so agressive that it was often as interesting to watch him as JS7. He won a lot of races and is in my mind so far the fastest MX250 rider and best SX rider of the last few years (not decade since it is from 2006 to 2014..., half half...).

He was over it after over training during his whole career. I think he really tried to win in MXGP, just to make the move was already a huge thing, but his settings were not good at the beginning of the season, his bike was reacting too much. To score some big points, he had to take some risks, it ended up pretty bad, which was a high probability anyway since the leaders and himself are always on the limits. The way he retire, well, @ Glen Helen would have been nice, for the industry, fans, promoter, but his injury was a scary one, I feel he does not want to risk another big one. (You know, like "us" when we go to make the last laps of the day, it ends up quite often on the ground)

What I will remember is not the way he retired or how this season went but the way he won many of his races in MX and SX, the way he saved the US at the MXdN in France in 2011, or the way he made one of the best races of all time, the MXdN in Budds Creek.

Thanks for the show, happy retirement RV2 !
good post, I agree..
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RY4N37 wrote:
Sounds like RV may have lost a little bit of respect within the paddock. Not that he cares of course
davistld01 wrote:
I know this is dragged from the first page, but I think this nails it on both points. Personally, I get it that RV was more...
I know this is dragged from the first page, but I think this nails it on both points. Personally, I get it that RV was more than ready to hang up his boots. I get it that he got hurt, is probably on the mend...and may be for a while yet. I get it that he was basically forced to race to fulfill contracts with Kawie & Monster...and that its all about the Benjamins. What I'll never get is RV's attitude. It's like, after all this time, after he's made all this money & has this horde of fans...he just basically flips everybody off & walks away...only after publishing a dear-john letter that clearly he didn't write himself.

I mean...if Ryan had to put on a happy face (or as close to one as he ever put on, anyway...) to race his last couple of seasons, what would a bit more have hurt...especially since his doc cleared him to race? He could have gone out with a much higher level of respect from his peers & his fans, whether he won or not. At least he nutted up & gave it a go.

As it is now, RV will be known as a multi-time champion, one of the best riders ever...and a quitter, who didn't give a damn. That's kind of a sad legacy IMO.


He is one of the very few top riders of all time, was planning to retire then got hurt and retired early. the end
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I can't wait for next year when nobody gives a shit about the GP's again so these America hating trolls crawl back into their cave and...
I can't wait for next year when nobody gives a shit about the GP's again so these America hating trolls crawl back into their cave and I can watch the GP series in peace. You guys are doing nothing but giving the series a bad name, constantly on here talking shit. And this Ryan3231675313 guy, I've thought was a dip shit from the very start. Glad to see everyone is finally catching on. Good night kids!!
no kidding..geez...their routine gets very old and very disrespectful. I hope yakrider is next on the list to go.


Hey Steve G, can you open up a new forum for the Brit GP guys, call it maybe something like BritMX, it sure would help around here, they don't seem to have a place to go, so they crash our party all the time. Smile
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no kidding..geez...their routine gets very old and very disrespectful. I hope yakrider is next on the list to go. Hey Steve G, can you open up...
no kidding..geez...their routine gets very old and very disrespectful. I hope yakrider is next on the list to go.


Hey Steve G, can you open up a new forum for the Brit GP guys, call it maybe something like BritMX, it sure would help around here, they don't seem to have a place to go, so they crash our party all the time. Smile
It takes a special kind of arrogance to post your stupid shit. Look at the top of the page. VitalMX. It isnt Vital American MX. Vital covers MXGP, AMA MX SX, Japanese MX, Australian MX and SX. The fact that you think this is somehow just"your party" shows just how out of touch you are with reality. You should get banned for being stupid.
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no kidding..geez...their routine gets very old and very disrespectful. I hope yakrider is next on the list to go. Hey Steve G, can you open up...
no kidding..geez...their routine gets very old and very disrespectful. I hope yakrider is next on the list to go.


Hey Steve G, can you open up a new forum for the Brit GP guys, call it maybe something like BritMX, it sure would help around here, they don't seem to have a place to go, so they crash our party all the time. Smile
Good god you are one whiny bitch .
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no kidding..geez...their routine gets very old and very disrespectful. I hope yakrider is next on the list to go. Hey Steve G, can you open up...
no kidding..geez...their routine gets very old and very disrespectful. I hope yakrider is next on the list to go.


Hey Steve G, can you open up a new forum for the Brit GP guys, call it maybe something like BritMX, it sure would help around here, they don't seem to have a place to go, so they crash our party all the time. Smile
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It takes a special kind of arrogance to post your stupid shit. Look at the top of the page. VitalMX. It isnt Vital American MX. Vital...
It takes a special kind of arrogance to post your stupid shit. Look at the top of the page. VitalMX. It isnt Vital American MX. Vital covers MXGP, AMA MX SX, Japanese MX, Australian MX and SX. The fact that you think this is somehow just"your party" shows just how out of touch you are with reality. You should get banned for being stupid.
Haha...trust me your right up there with the best of them as an RV basher. In fact, something tells me from your anti-American posting history, that your not even from this country, so piss off.
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Lots of threads about RV ! Well that is his choice. He brought a fantastic style in racing, so agressive that it was often as interesting...

Lots of threads about RV ! Well that is his choice.

He brought a fantastic style in racing, so agressive that it was often as interesting to watch him as JS7. He won a lot of races and is in my mind so far the fastest MX250 rider and best SX rider of the last few years (not decade since it is from 2006 to 2014..., half half...).

He was over it after over training during his whole career. I think he really tried to win in MXGP, just to make the move was already a huge thing, but his settings were not good at the beginning of the season, his bike was reacting too much. To score some big points, he had to take some risks, it ended up pretty bad, which was a high probability anyway since the leaders and himself are always on the limits. The way he retire, well, @ Glen Helen would have been nice, for the industry, fans, promoter, but his injury was a scary one, I feel he does not want to risk another big one. (You know, like "us" when we go to make the last laps of the day, it ends up quite often on the ground)

What I will remember is not the way he retired or how this season went but the way he won many of his races in MX and SX, the way he saved the US at the MXdN in France in 2011, or the way he made one of the best races of all time, the MXdN in Budds Creek.

Thanks for the show, happy retirement RV2 !
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good post, I agree..
this guy is half way around the world from me, yet on the same (Got it right) page....refreshing!
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Question wrote:
Lots of threads about RV ! Well that is his choice. He brought a fantastic style in racing, so agressive that it was often as interesting...

Lots of threads about RV ! Well that is his choice.

He brought a fantastic style in racing, so agressive that it was often as interesting to watch him as JS7. He won a lot of races and is in my mind so far the fastest MX250 rider and best SX rider of the last few years (not decade since it is from 2006 to 2014..., half half...).

He was over it after over training during his whole career. I think he really tried to win in MXGP, just to make the move was already a huge thing, but his settings were not good at the beginning of the season, his bike was reacting too much. To score some big points, he had to take some risks, it ended up pretty bad, which was a high probability anyway since the leaders and himself are always on the limits. The way he retire, well, @ Glen Helen would have been nice, for the industry, fans, promoter, but his injury was a scary one, I feel he does not want to risk another big one. (You know, like "us" when we go to make the last laps of the day, it ends up quite often on the ground)

What I will remember is not the way he retired or how this season went but the way he won many of his races in MX and SX, the way he saved the US at the MXdN in France in 2011, or the way he made one of the best races of all time, the MXdN in Budds Creek.

Thanks for the show, happy retirement RV2 !
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good post, I agree..
Tumblin wrote:
this guy is half way around the world from me, yet on the same (Got it right) page....refreshing!
Yep good post, and so was Brimx as well.. there are a lot of asshole fans in US motocross
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I always thought that American "fans" cried the most...It's refreshing to hear the Euro's knock us out of 1st place. RV's legacy isn't based on his decision to race his last season in the GP series....He got hurt and chose to retire. Sorry a couple of fans wanted him to do a parade lap.
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Most of them don't even care. They are using this as another opportunity to bash anything American. If Cairoli goes out this way, you can bet your ass the comments will be 180 from what they are saying now. Obviously nobody wanted it to end this way, but it is what it is and it's his life, his body, his decision. End of story.
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It is what it is.

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Lmao.... RV is one of the few in mx that races to win. Nothing less would suit him. Does it for himself and not anybody else. Shouldn't be hard to understand but apparently for some here and there it is.
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Lmao.... RV is one of the few in mx that races to win. Nothing less would suit him. Does it for himself and not anybody else...
Lmao.... RV is one of the few in mx that races to win. Nothing less would suit him. Does it for himself and not anybody else. Shouldn't be hard to understand but apparently for some here and there it is.
Exactly! He is not the kind of guy that is gonna go do parade laps waving to the crowd, he is a god dam honey badger....
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RV ain't flipping nobody the finger. Sheesh
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BobbyM 7/12/2015 10:41pm
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RV at least tried to race the MXGP's.
AC.... He stayed in his comfort zone and wouldn't even race SX.

Like most everyone else he should just STFU on what's best for RV.
indecisivepanda 7/12/2015 10:46pm
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Exactly! He is not the kind of guy that is gonna go do parade laps waving to the crowd, he is a god dam honey badger....
Many of you seem to be personal buddies with Ryan to know that much about him and what he cares about.
indecisivepanda 7/12/2015 10:49pm
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RV at least tried to race the MXGP's. AC.... He stayed in his comfort zone and wouldn't even race SX. Like most everyone else he should...
RV at least tried to race the MXGP's.
AC.... He stayed in his comfort zone and wouldn't even race SX.

Like most everyone else he should just STFU on what's best for RV.
Cairoli has no interest in supercross, and that should be no reason for you to take a dig at him.
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Hut 7/13/2015 12:14am
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BobbyM wrote:
RV at least tried to race the MXGP's. AC.... He stayed in his comfort zone and wouldn't even race SX. Like most everyone else he should...
RV at least tried to race the MXGP's.
AC.... He stayed in his comfort zone and wouldn't even race SX.

Like most everyone else he should just STFU on what's best for RV.
indecisivepanda wrote:
Cairoli has no interest in supercross, and that should be no reason for you to take a dig at him.
You must be personal buddies with Cairoli to know his interests
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BobbyM wrote:
RV at least tried to race the MXGP's. AC.... He stayed in his comfort zone and wouldn't even race SX. Like most everyone else he should...
RV at least tried to race the MXGP's.
AC.... He stayed in his comfort zone and wouldn't even race SX.

Like most everyone else he should just STFU on what's best for RV.
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Cairoli has no interest in supercross, and that should be no reason for you to take a dig at him.
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You must be personal buddies with Cairoli to know his interests
He has clearly stated as much in interviews, it's a foreign discipline to most over here. If you had criticised him for not having a go at the Nats then I would have to concede.
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BobbyM wrote:
RV at least tried to race the MXGP's. AC.... He stayed in his comfort zone and wouldn't even race SX. Like most everyone else he should...
RV at least tried to race the MXGP's.
AC.... He stayed in his comfort zone and wouldn't even race SX.

Like most everyone else he should just STFU on what's best for RV.
yeah well when Cairoli doesn't wanna race in the GPs anymore and is just trying to fulfill a contract you might see him over there.. I'm sure you'd all have the same positive things to say about him if he shared the results and fate as RV had in the GPs
RichardLoots 7/13/2015 2:09am
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BobbyM wrote:
RV at least tried to race the MXGP's. AC.... He stayed in his comfort zone and wouldn't even race SX. Like most everyone else he should...
RV at least tried to race the MXGP's.
AC.... He stayed in his comfort zone and wouldn't even race SX.

Like most everyone else he should just STFU on what's best for RV.
who should every rider come to the USA and race SX ?? i dont get it ......some riders just prefer MX .

indecisivepanda 7/14/2015 8:31am
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You must be personal buddies with Cairoli to know his interests
Cairoli has stated that he has no interest in racing a full season here in the States. Wink

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