We were just laughing at the fact that racism can be a double standard..

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chuck317 wrote:
what about white out? brosho, you seem to be one pissed off person.
What ? So I'm pissed because I am a black guy trying to discuss this with you guys??? Seriously? I'm not pissed I already know that Humans Suck. I just laugh at all the ignorance and hate now. It will never go away.
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You keep stretching the racism argument thinner and thinner. . . Which corporations are you speaking about specifically?
vet323 wrote:
I'd like to know which corporations Brosho's talking about, too. Don't want to be supporting slave owners. Also, Brosho- which country in Africa does your family...
I'd like to know which corporations Brosho's talking about, too. Don't want to be supporting slave owners.

Also, Brosho- which country in Africa does your family hail from? My dad's family is from Germany. My great great granddad came here in 1898 and settled in ND on a dusty dirt farm. He worked is ass off for the land owner and gradually bought 450 acres from him for his homestead. He had a hard time at first with the language, but got better. He never allowed German to be spoken in the house because he wanted my great granddad and great uncles/aunts to be more American than he and my great great grandma were.

He came voluntarily because he didn't like where Europe was going in the early part of last century (smart man). There is an obvious difference between coming here voluntarily and being kidnapped and sold into slavery, but I think that vanillaice's contention that our respective families are better off here than they would have been if they had been living in Europe or Africa (at least the parts of Africa most slaves came from) is something that can be discussed.
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OK, cool.

What country in Africa is you family from?
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Holy shit you've said some ignorant stuff before, but that just about takes the cake. You have achieved a level of asshattery that is simply amazing...
Holy shit you've said some ignorant stuff before, but that just about takes the cake. You have achieved a level of asshattery that is simply amazing.

Next you'll be telling Jews that they should be thankful for the Holocaust because it may have accelerated the Jewish state......
No I actually pretty much said the opposite of that. We owe the Jewish people because we let the holocaust happen....but you don't here them complaining...
No I actually pretty much said the opposite of that. We owe the Jewish people because we let the holocaust happen....but you don't here them complaining about that or bringing it up every chance that they get. Instead they got to work.
Your ignorance of this issue is showing. Perhaps you'd be well served by research not only the reparations paid to Jews but also their relentless search for, determined prosecution, and even covert executions of those responsible for these crimes against humanity.

And in the meantime you can explain how your logic determined that we owe the Jewish people for letting the holocaust happen yet don't owe blacks when we codified their ownership into our own laws.........
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vet323 wrote:
I'd like to know which corporations Brosho's talking about, too. Don't want to be supporting slave owners. Also, Brosho- which country in Africa does your family...
I'd like to know which corporations Brosho's talking about, too. Don't want to be supporting slave owners.

Also, Brosho- which country in Africa does your family hail from? My dad's family is from Germany. My great great granddad came here in 1898 and settled in ND on a dusty dirt farm. He worked is ass off for the land owner and gradually bought 450 acres from him for his homestead. He had a hard time at first with the language, but got better. He never allowed German to be spoken in the house because he wanted my great granddad and great uncles/aunts to be more American than he and my great great grandma were.

He came voluntarily because he didn't like where Europe was going in the early part of last century (smart man). There is an obvious difference between coming here voluntarily and being kidnapped and sold into slavery, but I think that vanillaice's contention that our respective families are better off here than they would have been if they had been living in Europe or Africa (at least the parts of Africa most slaves came from) is something that can be discussed.
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vet323 wrote:
OK, cool.

What country in Africa is you family from?
I think it's fairly common knowledge that most blacks don't have the luxury of having the ability to trace their lineage the way many of us can. They weren't allowed to pack a whole lot of personal belongings for the luxury cruise over to this continent.

If you're questioning whether his ancestors were actually slaves or not, the odds are pretty high they were. Something close to 85% of blacks in America are definitely descended from slaves, and those that aren't are relatively new to the country and probably are able to track their lineage much easier.

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Holy shit you've said some ignorant stuff before, but that just about takes the cake. You have achieved a level of asshattery that is simply amazing...
Holy shit you've said some ignorant stuff before, but that just about takes the cake. You have achieved a level of asshattery that is simply amazing.

Next you'll be telling Jews that they should be thankful for the Holocaust because it may have accelerated the Jewish state......
No I actually pretty much said the opposite of that. We owe the Jewish people because we let the holocaust happen....but you don't here them complaining...
No I actually pretty much said the opposite of that. We owe the Jewish people because we let the holocaust happen....but you don't here them complaining about that or bringing it up every chance that they get. Instead they got to work.
APLMAN99 wrote:
Your ignorance of this issue is showing. Perhaps you'd be well served by research not only the reparations paid to Jews but also their relentless search...
Your ignorance of this issue is showing. Perhaps you'd be well served by research not only the reparations paid to Jews but also their relentless search for, determined prosecution, and even covert executions of those responsible for these crimes against humanity.

And in the meantime you can explain how your logic determined that we owe the Jewish people for letting the holocaust happen yet don't owe blacks when we codified their ownership into our own laws.........
Exactly some things is just not worth a response from me. It's amazing the loopholes they look for.
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Brosho wrote:
vet323 wrote:
OK, cool.

What country in Africa is you family from?
APLMAN99 wrote:
I think it's fairly common knowledge that most blacks don't have the luxury of having the ability to trace their lineage the way many of us...
I think it's fairly common knowledge that most blacks don't have the luxury of having the ability to trace their lineage the way many of us can. They weren't allowed to pack a whole lot of personal belongings for the luxury cruise over to this continent.

If you're questioning whether his ancestors were actually slaves or not, the odds are pretty high they were. Something close to 85% of blacks in America are definitely descended from slaves, and those that aren't are relatively new to the country and probably are able to track their lineage much easier.
Again. Exactly
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Brosho wrote:
vet323 wrote:
OK, cool.

What country in Africa is you family from?
APLMAN99 wrote:
I think it's fairly common knowledge that most blacks don't have the luxury of having the ability to trace their lineage the way many of us...
I think it's fairly common knowledge that most blacks don't have the luxury of having the ability to trace their lineage the way many of us can. They weren't allowed to pack a whole lot of personal belongings for the luxury cruise over to this continent.

If you're questioning whether his ancestors were actually slaves or not, the odds are pretty high they were. Something close to 85% of blacks in America are definitely descended from slaves, and those that aren't are relatively new to the country and probably are able to track their lineage much easier.
I guess that's right, I wouldn't expect that slave families would be able to reconstruct their lineage from before they were brought to this country.

Maybe I should ask in which state his ancestors were living in slavery? That would only require going back a couple generations after they were brought to this country, and since slavery is a fresh wound that impacts us all daily there should be ample family history that I'm sure Brosho can share.

My mom's family has all kinds of artifacts and many stories about the forced relocation and internment in reservations of her ancestors by the B.I.A. in the 1870's ( about the same time freed slaves were trying to start their new lives ). It would be interesting to read about Brosho's family and how it was affected by Reconstruction. Where were they held as slaves? Where did they go and what did they do to make a living after they were freed? What were subsequent family members taught about the families' experience as slaves?

I think it would be interesting.
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If I am correct, the Jews that received any monetary reparations were the ones actually in the camps, not 4-5 generations later

As long as a wound is open it requires attention. As long as you pick at a wound it will remain unhealed.

The problem is there is too much to gain by certain people and certain parties to allow this to go away. It's a business and sadly people are not capable of figuring it out.
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That's not a photo
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Let me say that I didn't bother to read the whole thread, but,
The problem with your chart is that slavery isn't limited to blacks. But everyone seems to think that only blacks were slaves. Discrimination also isn't limited to blacks. When my dad immigrated (legally) from Germany shortly after WWII there was plenty of hate for him. While he didn't look different, as soon as he spoke they knew he was not from here.
And with a huge public campaign to hate the Germans it was no wonder that his was going to happen. Fast forward a few decades and all I hear about is "white privilege", or because I'm white I'm somehow responsible that someone "non-white" is being held down from succeeding in life. People that don't know anything about me feel it's OK to lump me in with all other white people. How is that not racist? And while there are a lot of people that still feel superior to blacks, there are also a lot of blacks that hate whites. It really goes both ways. The same as I wouldn't lump you into that crowd, I resent being lumped into the narrative that all whites are racist and responsible for the lack of success of the black community. And while you may not lump me into that group, the most vocal in the black community do.
And by the way, my dad didn't become successful by being white, he had to take the shittiest jobs and work his ass off to do better that those above him to get less shitty jobs. So yes I had a better start, but not because I'm white, but because of the tenacious work ethic and desire to succeed by my parents that they got zero help with.
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APLMAN99 wrote:
Holy shit you've said some ignorant stuff before, but that just about takes the cake. You have achieved a level of asshattery that is simply amazing...
Holy shit you've said some ignorant stuff before, but that just about takes the cake. You have achieved a level of asshattery that is simply amazing.

Next you'll be telling Jews that they should be thankful for the Holocaust because it may have accelerated the Jewish state......
No I actually pretty much said the opposite of that. We owe the Jewish people because we let the holocaust happen....but you don't here them complaining...
No I actually pretty much said the opposite of that. We owe the Jewish people because we let the holocaust happen....but you don't here them complaining about that or bringing it up every chance that they get. Instead they got to work.
APLMAN99 wrote:
Your ignorance of this issue is showing. Perhaps you'd be well served by research not only the reparations paid to Jews but also their relentless search...
Your ignorance of this issue is showing. Perhaps you'd be well served by research not only the reparations paid to Jews but also their relentless search for, determined prosecution, and even covert executions of those responsible for these crimes against humanity.

And in the meantime you can explain how your logic determined that we owe the Jewish people for letting the holocaust happen yet don't owe blacks when we codified their ownership into our own laws.........
Haha touche I haven't researched Holocaust reperations but I guess the whole point I was trying to make is that everyone else in the world has been able to move on from terrible things that happened in the past.

We have a constant reminder every day on television about how much harder it is to be black. Like other people have said, we have the first black president ever and he set race relations back about 50 years with all the ridiculous stuff he has done. That makes their agenda pretty clear.
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No I actually pretty much said the opposite of that. We owe the Jewish people because we let the holocaust happen....but you don't here them complaining...
No I actually pretty much said the opposite of that. We owe the Jewish people because we let the holocaust happen....but you don't here them complaining about that or bringing it up every chance that they get. Instead they got to work.
APLMAN99 wrote:
Your ignorance of this issue is showing. Perhaps you'd be well served by research not only the reparations paid to Jews but also their relentless search...
Your ignorance of this issue is showing. Perhaps you'd be well served by research not only the reparations paid to Jews but also their relentless search for, determined prosecution, and even covert executions of those responsible for these crimes against humanity.

And in the meantime you can explain how your logic determined that we owe the Jewish people for letting the holocaust happen yet don't owe blacks when we codified their ownership into our own laws.........
Haha touche I haven't researched Holocaust reperations but I guess the whole point I was trying to make is that everyone else in the world has...
Haha touche I haven't researched Holocaust reperations but I guess the whole point I was trying to make is that everyone else in the world has been able to move on from terrible things that happened in the past.

We have a constant reminder every day on television about how much harder it is to be black. Like other people have said, we have the first black president ever and he set race relations back about 50 years with all the ridiculous stuff he has done. That makes their agenda pretty clear.
Depends on your definition of "move on" I suppose. There are wars fought around the globe over territorial ethnic disputes. Your "point" isn't based on anything really factual, so it's not really a solid point.

And Obama has only set back race relations for those who don't like minorities sharing equal rights, but that's not really surprising...........
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APLMAN99 wrote:
Your ignorance of this issue is showing. Perhaps you'd be well served by research not only the reparations paid to Jews but also their relentless search...
Your ignorance of this issue is showing. Perhaps you'd be well served by research not only the reparations paid to Jews but also their relentless search for, determined prosecution, and even covert executions of those responsible for these crimes against humanity.

And in the meantime you can explain how your logic determined that we owe the Jewish people for letting the holocaust happen yet don't owe blacks when we codified their ownership into our own laws.........
Haha touche I haven't researched Holocaust reperations but I guess the whole point I was trying to make is that everyone else in the world has...
Haha touche I haven't researched Holocaust reperations but I guess the whole point I was trying to make is that everyone else in the world has been able to move on from terrible things that happened in the past.

We have a constant reminder every day on television about how much harder it is to be black. Like other people have said, we have the first black president ever and he set race relations back about 50 years with all the ridiculous stuff he has done. That makes their agenda pretty clear.
APLMAN99 wrote:
Depends on your definition of "move on" I suppose. There are wars fought around the globe over territorial ethnic disputes. Your "point" isn't based on anything...
Depends on your definition of "move on" I suppose. There are wars fought around the globe over territorial ethnic disputes. Your "point" isn't based on anything really factual, so it's not really a solid point.

And Obama has only set back race relations for those who don't like minorities sharing equal rights, but that's not really surprising...........
Who is deprived of equal rights? I hear this crap non stop.
7/11/2015 10:02am
APLMAN99 wrote:
Depends on your definition of "move on" I suppose. There are wars fought around the globe over territorial ethnic disputes. Your "point" isn't based on anything...
Depends on your definition of "move on" I suppose. There are wars fought around the globe over territorial ethnic disputes. Your "point" isn't based on anything really factual, so it's not really a solid point.

And Obama has only set back race relations for those who don't like minorities sharing equal rights, but that's not really surprising...........
No every time there is a major news story he, who's half black and definitely one of the most powerful men in the world, comes out and talks about how hard it is to be black. He usually says white people will never understand how hard it is to live in a free country that is somehow still holding black people down.

He has set them back a lot of years by convincing them that they are victims of an imaginary racist system and he cries foul every time a white person kills a black person.

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APLMAN99 wrote:
Depends on your definition of "move on" I suppose. There are wars fought around the globe over territorial ethnic disputes. Your "point" isn't based on anything...
Depends on your definition of "move on" I suppose. There are wars fought around the globe over territorial ethnic disputes. Your "point" isn't based on anything really factual, so it's not really a solid point.

And Obama has only set back race relations for those who don't like minorities sharing equal rights, but that's not really surprising...........
No every time there is a major news story he, who's half black and definitely one of the most powerful men in the world, comes out...
No every time there is a major news story he, who's half black and definitely one of the most powerful men in the world, comes out and talks about how hard it is to be black. He usually says white people will never understand how hard it is to live in a free country that is somehow still holding black people down.

He has set them back a lot of years by convincing them that they are victims of an imaginary racist system and he cries foul every time a white person kills a black person.

I'm had no idea you were quite as delusional as this. Obama himself has spoken openly and honestly about the differences growing up black in our society can result in, and he's likely very correct about that. The fact that you believe that racism is imaginary shows such a level of cognitive dissonance that it's actually alarming. It's very similar to Bill O'Reilly talking about how equal things have been then being reminded that he was raised in a town that was government subsidized to be affordable and legally refused to sell homes to blacks.

Your hyperbole is telling, also. Obama doesn't talk about every killing, no matter the races involved. He has commented on a few notable events that were either overtly racially motivated or where the killer appeared to be treated differently than they would have if the races had been reversed. Nothing more than that.

But it's understandable why those who worry about no longer having the power of the majority to make rules favoring themselves are concerned when these issues are brought up.......
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I hear a lot of "They" on each side of the argument going on here...
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My family came from Germany in the early 1900's but Bros-ho thinks I owe him since slaves built this country? Even though he wasn't slave.......
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My family came from Germany in the early 1900's but Bros-ho thinks I owe him since slaves built this country? Even though he wasn't slave.......
His user name, pretty much says it all, .
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I'm had no idea you were quite as delusional as this. Obama himself has spoken openly and honestly about the differences growing up black in our...
I'm had no idea you were quite as delusional as this. Obama himself has spoken openly and honestly about the differences growing up black in our society can result in, and he's likely very correct about that. The fact that you believe that racism is imaginary shows such a level of cognitive dissonance that it's actually alarming. It's very similar to Bill O'Reilly talking about how equal things have been then being reminded that he was raised in a town that was government subsidized to be affordable and legally refused to sell homes to blacks.

Your hyperbole is telling, also. Obama doesn't talk about every killing, no matter the races involved. He has commented on a few notable events that were either overtly racially motivated or where the killer appeared to be treated differently than they would have if the races had been reversed. Nothing more than that.

But it's understandable why those who worry about no longer having the power of the majority to make rules favoring themselves are concerned when these issues are brought up.......
When the Mike Brown fiasco went down none of it was racially motivated and pretty much everyone knew that. Obama had to have known the real story behind what happened pretty quick. He is pretty much the most powerful man in the world. He could have just laid out all the details and said that the kid was a hoodlum, he had no respect for the law and that's why he got shot by a cop. Maybe it would have convinced at least a couple people to start raising their kids right and stop teaching them that it's okay to burn a town and steal when you're angry. He could have made a difference and helped people realize the real problem but instead they launched a federal investigation to see if Mike got shot because the cops were racist, which was total BS.

That's the type of stuff I'm talking about that he does to keep everyone angry and divided up. It was the same with Trayvon. It's the same thing they're doing with the ridiculous confederate flag "controversy" that is going on now.
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APLMAN99 wrote:
Depends on your definition of "move on" I suppose. There are wars fought around the globe over territorial ethnic disputes. Your "point" isn't based on anything...
Depends on your definition of "move on" I suppose. There are wars fought around the globe over territorial ethnic disputes. Your "point" isn't based on anything really factual, so it's not really a solid point.

And Obama has only set back race relations for those who don't like minorities sharing equal rights, but that's not really surprising...........
No every time there is a major news story he, who's half black and definitely one of the most powerful men in the world, comes out...
No every time there is a major news story he, who's half black and definitely one of the most powerful men in the world, comes out and talks about how hard it is to be black. He usually says white people will never understand how hard it is to live in a free country that is somehow still holding black people down.

He has set them back a lot of years by convincing them that they are victims of an imaginary racist system and he cries foul every time a white person kills a black person.

APLMAN99 wrote:
I'm had no idea you were quite as delusional as this. Obama himself has spoken openly and honestly about the differences growing up black in our...
I'm had no idea you were quite as delusional as this. Obama himself has spoken openly and honestly about the differences growing up black in our society can result in, and he's likely very correct about that. The fact that you believe that racism is imaginary shows such a level of cognitive dissonance that it's actually alarming. It's very similar to Bill O'Reilly talking about how equal things have been then being reminded that he was raised in a town that was government subsidized to be affordable and legally refused to sell homes to blacks.

Your hyperbole is telling, also. Obama doesn't talk about every killing, no matter the races involved. He has commented on a few notable events that were either overtly racially motivated or where the killer appeared to be treated differently than they would have if the races had been reversed. Nothing more than that.

But it's understandable why those who worry about no longer having the power of the majority to make rules favoring themselves are concerned when these issues are brought up.......
You believe what Barry tells you?

I doubt Barry Sorto had it rough growing up
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I feel sorry for the Black folks who just want to live that get put in the same group as the thugs. You can thank the race baiters and lefty nut jobs that think they are being hero's or some shit.
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what about white out? brosho, you seem to be one pissed off person.
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What ? So I'm pissed because I am a black guy trying to discuss this with you guys??? Seriously? I'm not pissed I already know that...
What ? So I'm pissed because I am a black guy trying to discuss this with you guys??? Seriously? I'm not pissed I already know that Humans Suck. I just laugh at all the ignorance and hate now. It will never go away.
O good, I'm not the only one laughing at your ignorance.
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My family came from Germany in the early 1900's but Bros-ho thinks I owe him since slaves built this country? Even though he wasn't slave.......
All I want you to do is show me your town, your tracks and your sister Smile
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My family came from Germany in the early 1900's but Bros-ho thinks I owe him since slaves built this country? Even though he wasn't slave.......
mxb2 wrote:
His user name, pretty much says it all, .
OH really? How is that?
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My family came from Germany in the early 1900's but Bros-ho thinks I owe him since slaves built this country? Even though he wasn't slave.......
mxb2 wrote:
His user name, pretty much says it all, .
Brosho wrote:
OH really? How is that?
A black dude using brosho as a username, pretty much says it all. I am sure you can figure it out, not that difficult.
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Typical Faux News non reporting they rarely say exactly who the people are who for example is saying Kid Rock should stop using that flag. They love making up some drama to piss off thier haters.

I'm Glad KR use that flag. It's his right to do so.

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