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RY4N37
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Edited Date/Time 7/10/2015 2:07pm
A return to Switzerland and South Africa for next year, back to St. Jean for French GP too. Looks pretty good to me

27.02*. Grand Prix of Qatar- Losail

06.03 TBA- TBA

20.03 Grand Prix of South Africa- Johannesburg

10.04 Grand Prix of Argentina- Neuquen

24.04 Grand Prix of Italy- TBA

01.05 Grand Prix of Europe- Valkenswaard

15.05 Grand Prix of Germany- Teutschenthal (Tbc)

22.05 Grand Prix of Great Britain- Matterley Basin

05.06 Grand Prix of France- St Jean d’Angély

12.06 Grand Prix of Belgium- Lommel

26.06 Grand Prix of Latvia- Kegums

03.07 Grand Prix of Sweden- Uddevalla (Tbc)

10.07 TBA- TBA

24.07 Grand Prix of the Czech Republic- Loket

07.08 Grand Prix of Switzerland- Frauenfeld

14.08 Grand Prix of The Netherlands- Assen

28.08 TBA- TBA

04.09 Grand Prix of Mexico- Leon

11.09 Monster Energy Grand Prix of the USA-Glen Helen

25 September – Monster Energy FIM Motocross Of Nations – Italy - Maggiora

21 August – FIM Junior Motocross World Championship - Russia - Orlyonok
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So they are still very afraid to bring a MxDN to the states huh? Good from a business prospective on their end. It's much easier to claim the premier series on earth title when you avoid US tracks like the plague.
RY4N37
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7/8/2015 2:22pm
Park Boys wrote:
So they are still very afraid to bring a MxDN to the states huh? Good from a business prospective on their end. It's much easier to...
So they are still very afraid to bring a MxDN to the states huh? Good from a business prospective on their end. It's much easier to claim the premier series on earth title when you avoid US tracks like the plague.
2017 MXoN is at Glen Helen. That was announced quite a while ago
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7/8/2015 2:30pm
Park Boys wrote:
So they are still very afraid to bring a MxDN to the states huh? Good from a business prospective on their end. It's much easier to...
So they are still very afraid to bring a MxDN to the states huh? Good from a business prospective on their end. It's much easier to claim the premier series on earth title when you avoid US tracks like the plague.
Go cry somewhere else.
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7/8/2015 2:34pm
I am excited about the round in Switzerland. Been to this track a few times, and I am sure there is no way they hold the GP there. There is no space for a paddock, the spectators or even a track thats worth a GP. I guess they need to find a better, bigger spot where they build a man made track ... once again.

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7/8/2015 2:39pm
mxmasta wrote:
I am excited about the round in Switzerland. Been to this track a few times, and I am sure there is no way they hold the...
I am excited about the round in Switzerland. Been to this track a few times, and I am sure there is no way they hold the GP there. There is no space for a paddock, the spectators or even a track thats worth a GP. I guess they need to find a better, bigger spot where they build a man made track ... once again.
I don't know about that, I just watched it on YouTube and the track looks good. I don't know about the paddock of whatever. They might change the track a bit, but they aren't going to build a brand new track when there's one already there
7/8/2015 2:46pm
This doesn't bode well for our MXdN effort. Our championship ends like 4-5 weeks before the MXdN. I wouldn't blame any rider for not wanting to continue with his training for an extra month, which would probably eat up all of his off-season, for a race that doesn't pay anything.

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7/8/2015 3:36pm
Park Boys wrote:
So they are still very afraid to bring a MxDN to the states huh? Good from a business prospective on their end. It's much easier to...
So they are still very afraid to bring a MxDN to the states huh? Good from a business prospective on their end. It's much easier to claim the premier series on earth title when you avoid US tracks like the plague.
It's true and it's bullshit. The countries in Europe are so small. The drive from the '15 and '16 Des Nations tracks (Italy and France) is 9 hours. I live in upstate NY and that barely gets me past PA. It should be in the states every 3 years. From 2008-2016 it will only have had 1 MXDN in the states.
7/8/2015 3:47pm Edited Date/Time 7/8/2015 3:50pm
11.09 Monster Energy Grand Prix of the USA-Glen Helen


That's nice and all, but what about Red Bud? GH has the MXdN the following year. Why not mix it up?
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7/8/2015 3:54pm Edited Date/Time 7/8/2015 4:04pm
ChrisB10 wrote:
It's true and it's bullshit. The countries in Europe are so small. The drive from the '15 and '16 Des Nations tracks (Italy and France) is...
It's true and it's bullshit. The countries in Europe are so small. The drive from the '15 and '16 Des Nations tracks (Italy and France) is 9 hours. I live in upstate NY and that barely gets me past PA. It should be in the states every 3 years. From 2008-2016 it will only have had 1 MXDN in the states.
Why should it be in the states every 3 years? It's just 1 country the same as anywhere else that hosts it. Why should they get to host it more than anyone else? Logistically it wouldn't make sense to have it in the U.S. that often.

And also, when the event is held there in 2017 you'll have hosted it 3 times in 10 years. As far as I can remember no other country has hosted it more times in 10 years than that, and it's exactly the same amount of times as you would've done if it was there every 3 years.
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7/8/2015 3:56pm
Park Boys wrote:
So they are still very afraid to bring a MxDN to the states huh? Good from a business prospective on their end. It's much easier to...
So they are still very afraid to bring a MxDN to the states huh? Good from a business prospective on their end. It's much easier to claim the premier series on earth title when you avoid US tracks like the plague.
ChrisB10 wrote:
It's true and it's bullshit. The countries in Europe are so small. The drive from the '15 and '16 Des Nations tracks (Italy and France) is...
It's true and it's bullshit. The countries in Europe are so small. The drive from the '15 and '16 Des Nations tracks (Italy and France) is 9 hours. I live in upstate NY and that barely gets me past PA. It should be in the states every 3 years. From 2008-2016 it will only have had 1 MXDN in the states.


Every 3 years... you are delusional. The Nations pulls a huge crowd every year , from all over , people drive, fly or whatever to get to the race, the cost of every country having to fund a flyaway every 3rd year would kill it stone dead in no time.
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It is up to a track if they want to hold a GP in the States. Its a big risk money wise and some cannot recoup the loss. And the MXdN in 2017 is already in the signed contract stage and its looking to be a great race, but I think if you ask Budds Creek and Lakewood the money you would think they make is not really there. These tracks do it for the faithful and diehards of the sport. Enjoy them while you can I think this sport might be making some changes in a few years. That is just my opinion and not that of anyone else's but hell I am old what do I know.
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Not to sound like an ass , but every time it is held in the states , it's pretty much a 100% fact the Americans will win it. I don't think there is another country on the planet that can claim that. I don't mind the over seas MXoN's , but it really sucks for our riders that are doing it. The commitment they have to have to keep training and riding 4 - 5 weeks after all our racing is done , is freakin brutal on these guys. I don't blame any of our riders passing on the chance to race it. Because by the time they get done with that race , guess what? SX raining starts up. They get absolutely no break all year long.

I love the race , try and support it all I can , but damn sometimes I wish our guys wouldn't even go.
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7/8/2015 4:31pm
remember guys it's their sport...they get to do what they want
7/8/2015 6:51pm
The MXDN is at Glen Helen...the same track the GP's race the prior years before the event to have a setups dialed and pray they have a shot. Smart move on their end.

If it was at Red Bud, the US would sweep the thing no doubt
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Argentina!!!
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7/8/2015 7:06pm
Mr. Info wrote:
It is up to a track if they want to hold a GP in the States. Its a big risk money wise and some cannot recoup...
It is up to a track if they want to hold a GP in the States. Its a big risk money wise and some cannot recoup the loss. And the MXdN in 2017 is already in the signed contract stage and its looking to be a great race, but I think if you ask Budds Creek and Lakewood the money you would think they make is not really there. These tracks do it for the faithful and diehards of the sport. Enjoy them while you can I think this sport might be making some changes in a few years. That is just my opinion and not that of anyone else's but hell I am old what do I know.
You know more then the "Insiders" in this thread.
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7/8/2015 9:55pm Edited Date/Time 7/8/2015 10:02pm
Mr. Info wrote:
It is up to a track if they want to hold a GP in the States. Its a big risk money wise and some cannot recoup...
It is up to a track if they want to hold a GP in the States. Its a big risk money wise and some cannot recoup the loss. And the MXdN in 2017 is already in the signed contract stage and its looking to be a great race, but I think if you ask Budds Creek and Lakewood the money you would think they make is not really there. These tracks do it for the faithful and diehards of the sport. Enjoy them while you can I think this sport might be making some changes in a few years. That is just my opinion and not that of anyone else's but hell I am old what do I know.
At least someone here isn't paranoid.
It's all about the money. There would never be MXDN in Latvia if our government would not give promoter 1000000 to make it happen. MXDN in Latvia was a huge loss financially and basically bankrupted Kegums.
If what I heard is correct, Budds Creek took huge loss back in 2007 too.
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[i] 11.09 Monster Energy Grand Prix of the USA-Glen Helen [/i] That's nice and all, but what about Red Bud? GH has the MXdN the following...
11.09 Monster Energy Grand Prix of the USA-Glen Helen


That's nice and all, but what about Red Bud? GH has the MXdN the following year. Why not mix it up?
Hard to find too many promoters that want to deal with Youthstream and all their BS.
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7/9/2015 2:29am
If more fans turned up to US GPs there would be more US GPs, it's as simple as that.

The lack of respect and knowledge for the world championship in the USA is why there aren't more GPs - because the fans won't come to watch.

YS want more GPs in the USA.
7/9/2015 2:36am
Park Boys wrote:
So they are still very afraid to bring a MxDN to the states huh? Good from a business prospective on their end. It's much easier to...
So they are still very afraid to bring a MxDN to the states huh? Good from a business prospective on their end. It's much easier to claim the premier series on earth title when you avoid US tracks like the plague.
they are running a glen Helen gp this year, and next year- and the des nations is in the states in 2017

explain how that is 'avoiding US tracks to claim the premier series title' ?

nice to see you kept the signature to remind you that I was right about the nations results too- I like that
7/9/2015 2:39am Edited Date/Time 7/9/2015 2:42am
Park Boys wrote:
So they are still very afraid to bring a MxDN to the states huh? Good from a business prospective on their end. It's much easier to...
So they are still very afraid to bring a MxDN to the states huh? Good from a business prospective on their end. It's much easier to claim the premier series on earth title when you avoid US tracks like the plague.
ChrisB10 wrote:
It's true and it's bullshit. The countries in Europe are so small. The drive from the '15 and '16 Des Nations tracks (Italy and France) is...
It's true and it's bullshit. The countries in Europe are so small. The drive from the '15 and '16 Des Nations tracks (Italy and France) is 9 hours. I live in upstate NY and that barely gets me past PA. It should be in the states every 3 years. From 2008-2016 it will only have had 1 MXDN in the states.
philG wrote:
Every 3 years... you are delusional. The Nations pulls a huge crowd every year , from all over , people drive, fly or whatever to get...


Every 3 years... you are delusional. The Nations pulls a huge crowd every year , from all over , people drive, fly or whatever to get to the race, the cost of every country having to fund a flyaway every 3rd year would kill it stone dead in no time.
exactly! why should America get preferential treatment and get to hold the event more often than other countries?! i'd like it if it was held in the uk every 3 years too, be a lot cheaper and easier for me to get to!!! but can see why it isn't- 98 and 2006 des nations were 2 of the best events ive ever been to, so was Namur in 2001, lierop in 2004 and lommel in 2012!!!


some of you guys will find something to moan about on every subject- maybe if your fellow countrymen actually grew a pair and raced the USGP for a change, and some spectators went to watch, then luongo might run more events in the states? just an idea

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exactly! why should America get preferential treatment and get to hold the event more often than other countries?! i'd like it if it was held in...
exactly! why should America get preferential treatment and get to hold the event more often than other countries?! i'd like it if it was held in the uk every 3 years too, be a lot cheaper and easier for me to get to!!! but can see why it isn't- 98 and 2006 des nations were 2 of the best events ive ever been to, so was Namur in 2001, lierop in 2004 and lommel in 2012!!!


some of you guys will find something to moan about on every subject- maybe if your fellow countrymen actually grew a pair and raced the USGP for a change, and some spectators went to watch, then luongo might run more events in the states? just an idea

Exactly. They moan that it's not in the U.S. then moan that it's not the right track in the U.S. when they don't even support the events that are put on over there. It's pretty hard to justify putting a MXoN on over there when the last 2 GP's there had a worse crowd than in Thailand.

The vast majority of the teams in the MXoN are European, many of which have small budgets. There is no way that half the teams in it could afford to fund a trip to the U.S. every three years.
7/9/2015 3:16am Edited Date/Time 7/9/2015 3:17am
Still need a round in Australia!

TBA maybe? Smile

Come on Kong et al. Who is the track owner with deep pockets over there?
7/9/2015 3:55am
Still need a round in Australia!

TBA maybe? Smile

Come on Kong et al. Who is the track owner with deep pockets over there?
some great tracks in Australia too!!! would love to see another round held there- expensive for the teams, but so are all the other 'fly away' rounds (Thailand/ quatar/ mexico / us etc)
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7/9/2015 4:41am
Yeah they race in Qatar but not in Australia? What's up with that? Huh
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7/9/2015 5:32am
McCread, here's an idea: pay prize money and maybe some more Americans would come. Why race for nothing but pride after 29 weekends of work, travel, racing and prize money? If you want to talk about respect, start with respecting the riders. You can hit the national pride button on the MXoN six days later.

And why didn't any GP riders but Ken De Dycker race Hangtown before the previous USGPs? That weekend was open, you were there. And why didn't any of the top European riders race the Geneva or Arnhem World SX races in their backyards?

Don't slag off on respect and knowledge when it comes to American riders and fans. We respect your riders immensly, just not the journalists like you who came here and troll for attention. Thought you were better than that.

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7/9/2015 6:01am
mccread wrote:
If more fans turned up to US GPs there would be more US GPs, it's as simple as that. The lack of respect and knowledge for...
If more fans turned up to US GPs there would be more US GPs, it's as simple as that.

The lack of respect and knowledge for the world championship in the USA is why there aren't more GPs - because the fans won't come to watch.

YS want more GPs in the USA.
When MXDN was held at Budds Creek the place was wall to wall people, absolutely packed. The response to that was an announcement of a string of USGP's and MXDN's to occur in the USA, years and years worth. A few months later came new announcements.... cancelled cancelled cancelled for nebulous reasons like "the economy". So fans turned up in 2007 out East and so far the reward for that has been absolutely nothing.
7/9/2015 6:08am Edited Date/Time 7/9/2015 6:10am
DC wrote:
McCread, here's an idea: pay prize money and maybe some more Americans would come. Why race for nothing but pride after 29 weekends of work, travel...
McCread, here's an idea: pay prize money and maybe some more Americans would come. Why race for nothing but pride after 29 weekends of work, travel, racing and prize money? If you want to talk about respect, start with respecting the riders. You can hit the national pride button on the MXoN six days later.

And why didn't any GP riders but Ken De Dycker race Hangtown before the previous USGPs? That weekend was open, you were there. And why didn't any of the top European riders race the Geneva or Arnhem World SX races in their backyards?

Don't slag off on respect and knowledge when it comes to American riders and fans. We respect your riders immensly, just not the journalists like you who came here and troll for attention. Thought you were better than that.

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de dyker is a poor example to use, having raced a couple of one off nationals in the past (didn't he finish about 6th/7th at a round a couple of years ago?)

the usgp is after the ama nationals are over, with a long break before supercross starts- hardly comparable to doing a race a week before an event that pays your wages..... not that it stopped desalle/ strijbos, there are a few examples of gp riders competing in one off nationals

regarding the usgp this year, you would think that at least the American des nations team riders would compete- keep them sharp/ in race fitness for the nations? as that's been a common excuse to recent poor results (it being a few weeks after the last national etc) - prize money would be irrelavent if there was another constructive reason for them to compete surely?

its disappointing not to see any of the top American riders race the usgp as has happened in years gone by- perhaps riders like canard / stewart would benefit from racing the event? having missed most of the ama season, it would be a good opportunity for them to get back to competition/ advertise their sponsors etc.

whatever incentive it would take to attract the top 10 ama riders to race in the usgp, someone needs to make it happen! it would make it an incredible event for the fans if such a thing could happen....
7/9/2015 6:10am
mccread wrote:
If more fans turned up to US GPs there would be more US GPs, it's as simple as that. The lack of respect and knowledge for...
If more fans turned up to US GPs there would be more US GPs, it's as simple as that.

The lack of respect and knowledge for the world championship in the USA is why there aren't more GPs - because the fans won't come to watch.

YS want more GPs in the USA.
fans won't come to watch because they are not interested ....

Has nothing to do with respect. Even funny you are writing that.
7/9/2015 6:15am
mccread wrote:
If more fans turned up to US GPs there would be more US GPs, it's as simple as that. The lack of respect and knowledge for...
If more fans turned up to US GPs there would be more US GPs, it's as simple as that.

The lack of respect and knowledge for the world championship in the USA is why there aren't more GPs - because the fans won't come to watch.

YS want more GPs in the USA.
bongobongo wrote:
fans won't come to watch because they are not interested ....

Has nothing to do with respect. Even funny you are writing that.
such a shame, but true!

I think its great when you see a gp rider make a cameo appearance in a one off ama round- when de reuver went over for southwick a few years ago, desalle at Unadilla/ Washougal etc, strijbos / de dyker competing in a couple of rounds. Makes for interesting racing for the fans

surely if a few more American riders competed in the usgp, it would bring more fans in?

be interesting to see if any of the top riders turn up (other than the ktm/ husky guys that are already confirmed as racing) - and to see if they get more fans there as a result

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