Has dungey won a championship

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IWreckALot 6/3/2015 8:40am
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jeff.cohen.923 wrote:
Wow I guess I am a idiot retarded moron for asking if he would be frustrated not being able to hand it to Eli or rv...
Wow I guess I am a idiot retarded moron for asking if he would be frustrated not being able to hand it to Eli or rv when he wins. I never said he sucks, I did how ever say he is a very talented rider. Personally weather I have millions and dozens of championships when I lay my head down in my mansion I would still always think of how I could match that guy. Maybe I am to competitive but I figured to get to be as good as any guy on a national line you have to probably be a very competitive person.
dazzlindino wrote:
...so the guys that got hurt trying to beat Dungey can sleep better at night...is that what your saying....
He spelled moran wrong.
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Spartacus wrote:
I'm more interested in race outcomes than championships but I'm clearly in a minority. The mad focus on championships is lost on me to a great...
I'm more interested in race outcomes than championships but I'm clearly in a minority. The mad focus on championships is lost on me to a great extent. [intentionally]
motogrady wrote:
Well so be it the then. You follow races. And some follow Championships. Funny how a few wonder how Dungey might feel, sitting on the couch...
Well so be it the then.
You follow races.
And some follow Championships.


Funny how a few wonder how Dungey might feel, sitting on the couch, wondering what might have been.
Why would he do that?
He's the guy with the titles
The others, ha, they lost it.
They couldn't hang. For whatever reason.
They're lucky to finish half a season.

No, RD has shown, in his era anyway, how it's done.
Maverick313 wrote:
In any era, it's tough to beat a guy that is always on the podium.
Very true.

Some guys, in some sand pit or quarry, can be fast as heck when just out there messing with his friends.
Take them to the races and they just don't have it.
Some guys, IMO a level up, can run and actually win every now and then.

And then there's the guys that can do it for a season, a series, which again, is yet another level.
Whoops_Blitzer 6/3/2015 9:45am
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mmcmx wrote:
He will loose this championship to a guy with a broken back, now that will be frustrating!
4 pages for the truth to get said! Dunge is extra toast!
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Spartacus wrote:
I'm more interested in race outcomes than championships but I'm clearly in a minority. The mad focus on championships is lost on me to a great...
I'm more interested in race outcomes than championships but I'm clearly in a minority. The mad focus on championships is lost on me to a great extent. [intentionally]
In that case, total up the individual race wins for Tomac and Dungey at the end of the season and see who has more. Smile

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his ability to be on the gate , every race , and on the box , pretty much every race is what gets you #1 plates. He gets it Cairoli gets it , Decoster gets it.

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mattmatt300 6/3/2015 10:19am
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Every title or championship in every sport on earth would have been won by someone else had they shown up at every contest and been better than their competitors.
Whoops_Blitzer 6/3/2015 10:26am
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2thefront wrote:
Well, Reed had his best friend die and was sick and didnt make it all year. Ben Townley is a fine racer, but c'mon man. I...
Well, Reed had his best friend die and was sick and didnt make it all year. Ben Townley is a fine racer, but c'mon man. I guess you're saying Roczen would've beat those guys by 164 points?
Huevos wrote:
So are you trying to be completely irrational to troll me, or are you seriously that dumb?
He may have been trolling (I doubt he was), but there's nothing at all irrational in thinking Roczen's rookie-year title was more impressive than Dungey's.
Whoops_Blitzer 6/3/2015 10:29am
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Spartacus wrote:
I'm more interested in race outcomes than championships but I'm clearly in a minority. The mad focus on championships is lost on me to a great...
I'm more interested in race outcomes than championships but I'm clearly in a minority. The mad focus on championships is lost on me to a great extent. [intentionally]
ab5772 wrote:
In that case, total up the individual race wins for Tomac and Dungey at the end of the season and see who has more. Smile
As 2theFront was saying, racing is about more than numbers on a page. RD sure racks up the numbers, though, and in more ways than one. I'll try not to begrudge him that.
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ab5772 6/3/2015 10:39am
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Whoops_Blitzer wrote:
As 2theFront was saying, racing is about more than numbers on a page. RD sure racks up the numbers, though, and in more ways than one...
As 2theFront was saying, racing is about more than numbers on a page. RD sure racks up the numbers, though, and in more ways than one. I'll try not to begrudge him that.
He may not be flashy, but it's not like Dungey is going slow out there. He's smoking the guys behind him. That's why I'm such a big fan. He has the speed and the consistency.
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2thefront wrote:
Well, Reed had his best friend die and was sick and didnt make it all year. Ben Townley is a fine racer, but c'mon man. I...
Well, Reed had his best friend die and was sick and didnt make it all year. Ben Townley is a fine racer, but c'mon man. I guess you're saying Roczen would've beat those guys by 164 points?
Huevos wrote:
So are you trying to be completely irrational to troll me, or are you seriously that dumb?
Whoops_Blitzer wrote:
He may have been trolling (I doubt he was), but there's nothing at all irrational in thinking Roczen's rookie-year title was more impressive than Dungey's.
I don't know about that. Not only did he win both titles, he really won a lot of motos outdoors that year, including smoking the defending champ.

Kens run was also impressive.
lostboy819 6/3/2015 11:15am
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jeff.cohen.923 wrote:
Wow I guess I am a idiot retarded moron for asking if he would be frustrated not being able to hand it to Eli or rv...
Wow I guess I am a idiot retarded moron for asking if he would be frustrated not being able to hand it to Eli or rv when he wins. I never said he sucks, I did how ever say he is a very talented rider. Personally weather I have millions and dozens of championships when I lay my head down in my mansion I would still always think of how I could match that guy. Maybe I am to competitive but I figured to get to be as good as any guy on a national line you have to probably be a very competitive person.
How can you say how you would feel because you will never be in his position or have a mansion or championships from racing and your comments are just a dig at Dungey for being a smart calculated mulit time champ making it sound like he lucked into his success. But "YOU"would not be fulfilled if it was you because you are such a hardcore competitor, how can you even relate to how you would feel if you won a championship? you cant. Go back to the novice class you poser, I bet you are the guy that looks at the entry list for your class and tries to get faster riders DQed because they might have rode A or B class at one time.
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Zildjian 6/3/2015 11:56am
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Using this logic David Bailey's one and only Supercross championship in 1983 should have an * next to it because Hannah hurt his wrist that season after winning 4 of the first 6 races.
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JRMX59 6/3/2015 12:07pm
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Man I really wonder how many guys on here actually race/raced. Smh.
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Spartacus wrote:
I'm more interested in race outcomes than championships but I'm clearly in a minority. The mad focus on championships is lost on me to a great...
I'm more interested in race outcomes than championships but I'm clearly in a minority. The mad focus on championships is lost on me to a great extent. [intentionally]
motogrady wrote:
Well so be it the then. You follow races. And some follow Championships. Funny how a few wonder how Dungey might feel, sitting on the couch...
Well so be it the then.
You follow races.
And some follow Championships.


Funny how a few wonder how Dungey might feel, sitting on the couch, wondering what might have been.
Why would he do that?
He's the guy with the titles
The others, ha, they lost it.
They couldn't hang. For whatever reason.
They're lucky to finish half a season.

No, RD has shown, in his era anyway, how it's done.
Maverick313 wrote:
In any era, it's tough to beat a guy that is always on the podium.
Same could be said about Reed back when Carmichael and/or Stewart were on the gate. You could almost always count on him finishing on the podium, but he didnt rack up a ton of titles during that time. Difference between Reed in that era and Dungey now is that injuries almost seem to be certain within the top 5 riders and those steady rides turn into championships now.

BTW, I’m neutral about Dungey for the same reason I was neutral about Reed 6-8 years ago. Both are/were faster than 98% of the riders at the top level. But for most of their careers there was at least one other guy that had them covered. Reed just didn’t have the cards fall in his favor as often.
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defeatist45 6/3/2015 12:22pm
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Dungey wins championships when he has the best season.that is all.
lostboy819 6/3/2015 12:25pm
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JRMX59 wrote:
Man I really wonder how many guys on here actually race/raced. Smh.
Well the guy who stated the thread is a mid pack C rider so we should read his drivel with a grain of salt.
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mark_swart 6/3/2015 12:41pm
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2thefront wrote:
Sometimes surviving is the best you can do. I don't think he has the talent to go as fast as some others even if he threw...
Sometimes surviving is the best you can do. I don't think he has the talent to go as fast as some others even if he threw caution the wind, but he's still really good. He's not gonna make a living waiting for guys like roczen and Tomac to crash every year, though.
Huevos wrote:
Dungey hasn't made a living?

I thought he had made millions of dollars and 4 450 championships doing just that.
How DARE you bring FACTS into this discussion.. : )

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BobbyM 6/3/2015 12:54pm
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jeff.cohen.923 wrote:
Has dungey won a championship where his main competitor made it to the end of the season. I am not here to bash dungey either but...
Has dungey won a championship where his main competitor made it to the end of the season. I am not here to bash dungey either but it has to be frustrating to always have won because the other guy hurt himself. I know his talent is always being consistant and up front for the whole series. But as a racer I would be not be satisfied if I didn't win heads up all the way to the end.
Loser...fucking loser talking shit like that.
Whoops_Blitzer 6/3/2015 1:08pm
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Huevos wrote:
So are you trying to be completely irrational to troll me, or are you seriously that dumb?
Whoops_Blitzer wrote:
He may have been trolling (I doubt he was), but there's nothing at all irrational in thinking Roczen's rookie-year title was more impressive than Dungey's.
Flatliner wrote:
I don't know about that. Not only did he win both titles, he really won a lot of motos outdoors that year, including smoking the defending...
I don't know about that. Not only did he win both titles, he really won a lot of motos outdoors that year, including smoking the defending champ.

Kens run was also impressive.
Lemme put it this way.

Last year Dungey had 16 top-twos, and he, Canard, Tomac and Stewart each had multiple moto wins (in a row, too).

In 2010, Short and Reed were the two fiercest guys out there, each scoring 5 top-twos---but no one except Dungey won more than a single moto all year.

You're a talented 450 rookie with championship hopes. Which group would you rather face?
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seth505 6/3/2015 1:24pm
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At this point, some goons would give Dungey more respect if he yardsailed himself out of races.
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RY4N37 6/3/2015 1:31pm
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seth505 wrote:
At this point, some goons would give Dungey more respect if he yardsailed himself out of races.
Totally. People are actually criticising him for not crashing
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2thefront wrote:
I hear what you're saying but if he hadn't lost every single time he raced a series against RV or looked far inferior to roczen indoors...
I hear what you're saying but if he hadn't lost every single time he raced a series against RV or looked far inferior to roczen indoors and Tomac outdoors this year before they got hurt, I don't think he'd get near as much $#*^. People remember this stuff. Doesn't mean he should have an asterisk, but hard to ignore too.
He didn't look inferior to me in SX or MX now, he has shown he has more bike control than both riders you mentioned so far this season!

You don't win championships on the ground.

Though I still don't think this title is over, Roczen is not that far back.
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Aaryn234 6/3/2015 2:05pm
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2thefront wrote:
Hey, guess we should not keep track of wins, or have podiums at the end of the day. Championships are all that matter. Grant Langston is...
Hey, guess we should not keep track of wins, or have podiums at the end of the day. Championships are all that matter. Grant Langston is as good as James Stewart everyone.
That is why it is called the Lucas Oils American Pro Motocross CHAMPIONSHIP and not the Lucas OIls American Pro Motocross how many wins and podiums do you have and who did you beat more before crashing out of the championship leaving your fans to cry on Vital series.
Maverick313 6/3/2015 2:09pm
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Track and Trail wrote:
Dungey is an all-time great.
Yep if you count every race win 125, 250,450 and 500 these are the top ten for most wins combined as of this weekend. Dungey's all ready in the top ten of all time.

Ricky Carmichael 161
James Stewart 116
Jeremy McGrath 102
Ryan Villopoto 83
Bob Hannah 64
Ricky Johnson 61
Chad Reed 61
Ryan Dungey 61
Jeff Ward 57
Kevin Windham 46
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and NONE of the guys in this category came into the national pro class on a factory bike out of the "B" classWoohoo
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2thefront wrote:
Sometimes surviving is the best you can do. I don't think he has the talent to go as fast as some others even if he threw...
Sometimes surviving is the best you can do. I don't think he has the talent to go as fast as some others even if he threw caution the wind, but he's still really good. He's not gonna make a living waiting for guys like roczen and Tomac to crash every year, though.
I think Ryan has the ability to ride just as fast as Tomac, Roczen...or anybody IF he has to. But, he knows where his boundaries are where he can feel completely in control. RD rides as fast as he needs to ride to manage maximum points. He leaves the crashing out of the season to the "lightning fast" guys.
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Track and Trail wrote:
Dungey is an all-time great.
Maverick313 wrote:
Yep if you count every race win 125, 250,450 and 500 these are the top ten for most wins combined as of this weekend. Dungey's all...
Yep if you count every race win 125, 250,450 and 500 these are the top ten for most wins combined as of this weekend. Dungey's all ready in the top ten of all time.

Ricky Carmichael 161
James Stewart 116
Jeremy McGrath 102
Ryan Villopoto 83
Bob Hannah 64
Ricky Johnson 61
Chad Reed 61
Ryan Dungey 61
Jeff Ward 57
Kevin Windham 46
It still amazes me that Villopoto missed 3 outdoor seasons (36 races) and part of 3 SX seasons (10 races) and still has 20 more wins than Dungey.

Out of those 46 I have no clue how many Dungey missed.

Dungey is still going strong though.

Maverick313 6/3/2015 2:25pm
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mauidex wrote:
and NONE of the guys in this category came into the national pro class on a factory bike out of the "B" classWoohoo
McGrath was a relatively unknown amateur too.

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