RV to race SX 2016?

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Edited Date/Time 6/4/2015 3:59am
With Eli hurt and no contract inked yet with Kawasaki I reckon they (kawa) will get RV to a SX only deal as it's highly unlikely Eli will be ready in time for A1.

RV can go for a last Championship AKA farewell tour in front of his fans whilst Eli gets back into shape whilst testing and preparing for the 2016 outdoors.

Just my thoughts on the best way forward for Kawasaki, Eli and RV.
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Hell no he wont be back in the States racing dude has already said that he will ether retire our try one more time at a mxgp title
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Hell no he wont be back in the States racing dude has already said that he will ether retire our try one more time at a...
Hell no he wont be back in the States racing dude has already said that he will ether retire our try one more time at a mxgp title
Has he really ever said he'd consider another go at MXGP?
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There is time for Eli to heal. Rehab will pretty much be his job. His recovery time will be quicker than most of us for the amount of time he will be able to dedicate and that going in he's in better shape to begin with.

As for Villlopoto racing SX only. I don't think it'll happen. He wanted something new which is why he went to MXGP. He said this was his last year. If he happens to race again next year, it'll be MXGP again since he now knows what to expect and can make a full season of it.

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I think we've already seen RV's last race. There is zero chance he will go back to race SX

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2thefront 6/2/2015 11:51pm
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I think we've already seen RV's last race. There is zero chance he will go back to race SX
Pretty much. Some can't accept their desire for him to race is stronger than his desire to race.
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Canerat 6/2/2015 11:57pm
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Moose, I recall RV saying that too but with Kawasaki having a deal on the table for Eli and with Eli's injury being a 6 month deal to recover after surgery it will be a huge financial risk to shove him (eli) into SX coming off of a serious injury like this. Its also a risk to Eli himself as he will have just about zero time on the KX450.

Should Eli attempt to contest SX they risk putting the outdoors in jeopardy too.

Eli's injury changes the whole scope of 2016 and possibly even the deal with Kawasaki. Will they pay him bike money to sit out SX and test outdoors instead?

RV for SX only and Eli taking over when the outdoors start is the best way forward. Will RV do it??? I think the size of the cheque Kawasaki is prepared to write can change RV mind about his plans for 2016.

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Canerat 6/3/2015 12:06am
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Wether RV retires or races doesn't bother me. Either way will be good for me..

I expressed my thoughts on the situation Kawasaki now find themselves in. Recovery for Tomac's injury is a 6 month deal and they will not push the envelope trying to bring him back prematurely. Nothing will be gained and too much stands to be lost.

Sure going to be interesting to see how this plays out. There could be a whole new twist to the upcoming Silly Season.
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Hell no he wont be back in the States racing dude has already said that he will ether retire our try one more time at a...
Hell no he wont be back in the States racing dude has already said that he will ether retire our try one more time at a mxgp title
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Has he really ever said he'd consider another go at MXGP?
Yes he said, maybe next year another year on mxgp, that was after the second round I believe.
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Moose, I recall RV saying that too but with Kawasaki having a deal on the table for Eli and with Eli's injury being a 6 month...
Moose, I recall RV saying that too but with Kawasaki having a deal on the table for Eli and with Eli's injury being a 6 month deal to recover after surgery it will be a huge financial risk to shove him (eli) into SX coming off of a serious injury like this. Its also a risk to Eli himself as he will have just about zero time on the KX450.

Should Eli attempt to contest SX they risk putting the outdoors in jeopardy too.

Eli's injury changes the whole scope of 2016 and possibly even the deal with Kawasaki. Will they pay him bike money to sit out SX and test outdoors instead?

RV for SX only and Eli taking over when the outdoors start is the best way forward. Will RV do it??? I think the size of the cheque Kawasaki is prepared to write can change RV mind about his plans for 2016.

You think RV would be motivated by the cash, I would hope not and think it depends on whether he wants to go back to that grind again.
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kiwifan 6/3/2015 12:12am
6/3/2015 12:12am Edited Date/Time 6/3/2015 12:12am
I suspect ET has a multi year contract with Kawasaki so I doubt that is not going to happen. I fully expect to see him on Kawasaki in round 1 in SX next year.

So I doubt RV figures in their SX plans.
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ledger 6/3/2015 12:48am
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RV will be on the cover of Field&Stream magazine. Boom, there it is.
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Canerat 6/3/2015 1:09am
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I suspect ET has a multi year contract with Kawasaki so I doubt that is not going to happen. I fully expect to see him on...
I suspect ET has a multi year contract with Kawasaki so I doubt that is not going to happen. I fully expect to see him on Kawasaki in round 1 in SX next year.

So I doubt RV figures in their SX plans.
Forgive and correct me if I'm wrong but it's unlikely Eli has a solid contract with Kawasaki whilst he still is under contract with Honda. Maybe a letter of intent had been signed and shit can easily change now that he is injured.

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KTMShane699 6/3/2015 3:23am
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Canerat wrote:
Forgive and correct me if I'm wrong but it's unlikely Eli has a solid contract with Kawasaki whilst he still is under contract with Honda. Maybe...
Forgive and correct me if I'm wrong but it's unlikely Eli has a solid contract with Kawasaki whilst he still is under contract with Honda. Maybe a letter of intent had been signed and shit can easily change now that he is injured.

Tomac can enter in a contract now, provided that the effective date of the contract is after his contract with Honda expires. If you think the manufacturers are simply going off letters of intent until contracts expire, you're not thinking it through. That leaves too much room for things to change. The purpose of a contract that's signed is to lock up the deal.

The contract really is most likely already signed and a done deal. The injury will have little to no bearing on that.

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Canerat 6/3/2015 3:25am
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Thanks for clearing that up Shane.
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kiwifan 6/3/2015 3:32am
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Canerat wrote:
Forgive and correct me if I'm wrong but it's unlikely Eli has a solid contract with Kawasaki whilst he still is under contract with Honda. Maybe...
Forgive and correct me if I'm wrong but it's unlikely Eli has a solid contract with Kawasaki whilst he still is under contract with Honda. Maybe a letter of intent had been signed and shit can easily change now that he is injured.

KTMShane699 wrote:
Tomac can enter in a contract now, provided that the effective date of the contract is after his contract with Honda expires. If you think the...
Tomac can enter in a contract now, provided that the effective date of the contract is after his contract with Honda expires. If you think the manufacturers are simply going off letters of intent until contracts expire, you're not thinking it through. That leaves too much room for things to change. The purpose of a contract that's signed is to lock up the deal.

The contract really is most likely already signed and a done deal. The injury will have little to no bearing on that.

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Correct Shane, basically I expect he is signed sealed and delivered at Kawasaki, although if I was in their shoes I would be praying he is ready to rock 100% at SX round 1.
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I forgot this was going to happen. People talked about RC coming out of retirement 5 years after he retired. Here we go with RV...
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RV is not coming back forget it.

Kawasaki would be stupid not to wait fit Tomac no matter what rider takes his place during his recovery, he's once in a generation rider.
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kiwifan wrote:
I suspect ET has a multi year contract with Kawasaki so I doubt that is not going to happen. I fully expect to see him on...
I suspect ET has a multi year contract with Kawasaki so I doubt that is not going to happen. I fully expect to see him on Kawasaki in round 1 in SX next year.

So I doubt RV figures in their SX plans.
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Forgive and correct me if I'm wrong but it's unlikely Eli has a solid contract with Kawasaki whilst he still is under contract with Honda. Maybe...
Forgive and correct me if I'm wrong but it's unlikely Eli has a solid contract with Kawasaki whilst he still is under contract with Honda. Maybe a letter of intent had been signed and shit can easily change now that he is injured.

Many contracts are signed before a riders current contract expires. Roczen was signed to RCH well before his KTM contract expired. Dungey was signed with KTM well before his last National on a Suzuki. Contracts have effective start & end dates. Tomac has no obligation to Honda after this season & is free to negotiate / sign for next. I'm not in the know, but seen enough from people that are, to believe Tomac's deal with Kawi is already done.

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moose man wrote:
Hell no he wont be back in the States racing dude has already said that he will ether retire our try one more time at a...
Hell no he wont be back in the States racing dude has already said that he will ether retire our try one more time at a mxgp title
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Has he really ever said he'd consider another go at MXGP?
i haven't heard that either, but i would be really really happy if he gave the GP's one more shot, i don't really want to watch him come back for supercross.
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RV won't be racing SX.
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RV won't be racing SX.
X a billion! He hates SX.
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jonesaustin 6/3/2015 8:54am
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Well, he's had some time off and he's still in great shape, so I'm guessing he may be missing some of the US scene just a tad. I can definitely believe it's possible. I mean, why not? I've had this thought for a good long while, since right after he retired from US racing. Then this was given some credence in a video interview during the MXGPs where he was asked the question, to which he said his answer is still no but that this "could" change.

Let's see, I'm sure it's on his mind right now. Let's just see. What a comeback story this would be... nothing like this situation has ever happened in the sport, so there a highly unique nature about this that would create major excitement, with less pressure than he's had in years past. It would be cool.
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Silliker269 6/3/2015 9:09am
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I think he does des nations and hes done , no way he is doing SX
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Moose, I recall RV saying that too but with Kawasaki having a deal on the table for Eli and with Eli's injury being a 6 month...
Moose, I recall RV saying that too but with Kawasaki having a deal on the table for Eli and with Eli's injury being a 6 month deal to recover after surgery it will be a huge financial risk to shove him (eli) into SX coming off of a serious injury like this. Its also a risk to Eli himself as he will have just about zero time on the KX450.

Should Eli attempt to contest SX they risk putting the outdoors in jeopardy too.

Eli's injury changes the whole scope of 2016 and possibly even the deal with Kawasaki. Will they pay him bike money to sit out SX and test outdoors instead?

RV for SX only and Eli taking over when the outdoors start is the best way forward. Will RV do it??? I think the size of the cheque Kawasaki is prepared to write can change RV mind about his plans for 2016.

For RV to take that kind of risk, how much would he have to be paid?
Take RV's salary for the year. What % do you think Kawasaki pays? 10% - 90%?

So how much influence do you think Kawasaki has on RV's career?
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I think he does des nations and hes done , no way he is doing SX
No way Decoster picks Villopoto if he's not back on the bike ASAP and that doesn't seem to happen.
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You're assuming that Eli doesn't already have a deal in place for next year.
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Hell no he wont be back in the States racing dude has already said that he will ether retire our try one more time at a...
Hell no he wont be back in the States racing dude has already said that he will ether retire our try one more time at a mxgp title
Huevos wrote:
Has he really ever said he'd consider another go at MXGP?
peelout wrote:
i haven't heard that either, but i would be really really happy if he gave the GP's one more shot, i don't really want to watch...
i haven't heard that either, but i would be really really happy if he gave the GP's one more shot, i don't really want to watch him come back for supercross.
He said it in a interview the weekend before he hurt him self they asked about retirement and he said ya I said it but things change and he was thinking about a nother season.
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Canerat 6/3/2015 10:33am
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With Eli hurt and no contract inked yet with Kawasaki I reckon they (kawa) will get RV to a SX only deal as it's highly unlikely...
With Eli hurt and no contract inked yet with Kawasaki I reckon they (kawa) will get RV to a SX only deal as it's highly unlikely Eli will be ready in time for A1.

RV can go for a last Championship AKA farewell tour in front of his fans whilst Eli gets back into shape whilst testing and preparing for the 2016 outdoors.

Just my thoughts on the best way forward for Kawasaki, Eli and RV.
I quote myself here. With Tomac signed with Kawasaki for 2016 and with his unfortunate injuries and with the recovery period for these type of injuries, it surely must have Kawasaki worried.

If all goes well with his surgery he should get on the Kawasaki a month before the season starts. Will that be enough time? He needs to test, get the bike dialed in and at the same time get back into racing shspe. He will enter the series on his back foot and its a financial risk for Kawasaki and a risk for himself.

The above is pure speculation and a topic of conversation.

Now factor RV in. He cant be enjoying himself at the moment. Starting fresh, learning new tracks, always on the move from country to country. Different diets...trying to figure out how to run with the top GP riders. I thought it would have been easy for him and im sure he never expected the level to be so high.

So for him to admit defeat in the GPs and bow out with a last SX tour (whilst Tomac recovers and tests for 2016 outdoors) makes perfect sense to me for both him and Kawasaki.

Will he consider it should Kawasaki ask and wish to pay his fee ( whilst paying Tomac) remains to be seen.

It would sure be nice to see him, Dungey and Stewart have one last season together.

Pipe dream? Yes.....but we have seen stranger things happen before.
Toneconsultant 6/3/2015 10:58am
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Why was this post even started? This is like saying Mike Alessi will win the SX season.

I have BREAKING NEWS. RV wants to retire! Let the poor dude retire.
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Canerat wrote:
With Eli hurt and no contract inked yet with Kawasaki I reckon they (kawa) will get RV to a SX only deal as it's highly unlikely...
With Eli hurt and no contract inked yet with Kawasaki I reckon they (kawa) will get RV to a SX only deal as it's highly unlikely Eli will be ready in time for A1.

RV can go for a last Championship AKA farewell tour in front of his fans whilst Eli gets back into shape whilst testing and preparing for the 2016 outdoors.

Just my thoughts on the best way forward for Kawasaki, Eli and RV.
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I quote myself here. With Tomac signed with Kawasaki for 2016 and with his unfortunate injuries and with the recovery period for these type of injuries...
I quote myself here. With Tomac signed with Kawasaki for 2016 and with his unfortunate injuries and with the recovery period for these type of injuries, it surely must have Kawasaki worried.

If all goes well with his surgery he should get on the Kawasaki a month before the season starts. Will that be enough time? He needs to test, get the bike dialed in and at the same time get back into racing shspe. He will enter the series on his back foot and its a financial risk for Kawasaki and a risk for himself.

The above is pure speculation and a topic of conversation.

Now factor RV in. He cant be enjoying himself at the moment. Starting fresh, learning new tracks, always on the move from country to country. Different diets...trying to figure out how to run with the top GP riders. I thought it would have been easy for him and im sure he never expected the level to be so high.

So for him to admit defeat in the GPs and bow out with a last SX tour (whilst Tomac recovers and tests for 2016 outdoors) makes perfect sense to me for both him and Kawasaki.

Will he consider it should Kawasaki ask and wish to pay his fee ( whilst paying Tomac) remains to be seen.

It would sure be nice to see him, Dungey and Stewart have one last season together.

Pipe dream? Yes.....but we have seen stranger things happen before.
Dude. Let it go. You've certainly got your day dreaming down to an art! Dry

Just wondering why your SO stuck on the subject? Re-read your ( many ) posts, you just repeat yourself in every post.

There is a much bigger reason RV never stuck around to make it 5 in a row in SX. I think it's pretty obvious he will not race SX again.

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