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struth 4/27/2015 12:04am
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Outsider wrote:
And yet he won an overall and was within seconds of first place the last few races... Cairoli would have been lucky for a top 5...
And yet he won an overall and was within seconds of first place the last few races... Cairoli would have been lucky for a top 5 in the US nationals... opps
crusty_xx wrote:
He would? What are the 5 riders you would place I'm front of him?
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RV has Not finished the last 3 races and yes he did pick up a overall, let's just hope that's not the shining moment from his...
RV has Not finished the last 3 races and yes he did pick up a overall, let's just hope that's not the shining moment from his GP career. We would like to see him compete some more on European tracks.
He did not start in 2 of last three numb skull
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struth 4/27/2015 12:07am
4/27/2015 12:07am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2015 12:09am
The Source wrote:
RV has Not finished the last 3 races and yes he did pick up a overall, let's just hope that's not the shining moment from his...
RV has Not finished the last 3 races and yes he did pick up a overall, let's just hope that's not the shining moment from his GP career. We would like to see him compete some more on European tracks.
He did not start in 2 of the last three numskull

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kongols 4/27/2015 12:09am
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The Source wrote:
RV has Not finished the last 3 races and yes he did pick up a overall, let's just hope that's not the shining moment from his...
RV has Not finished the last 3 races and yes he did pick up a overall, let's just hope that's not the shining moment from his GP career. We would like to see him compete some more on European tracks.
struth wrote:
He did not start in 2 of the last three numskull

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But has not finished 3. If you gonna shit on someone- do it right.
The Source 4/27/2015 12:11am
4/27/2015 12:11am
The Source wrote:
RV has Not finished the last 3 races and yes he did pick up a overall, let's just hope that's not the shining moment from his...
RV has Not finished the last 3 races and yes he did pick up a overall, let's just hope that's not the shining moment from his GP career. We would like to see him compete some more on European tracks.
struth wrote:
He did not start in 2 of the last three numskull

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Which means he did not place "within seconds of the first place finisher in the last few races", Correct?

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struth 4/27/2015 12:20am
4/27/2015 12:20am
The Source wrote:
RV has Not finished the last 3 races and yes he did pick up a overall, let's just hope that's not the shining moment from his...
RV has Not finished the last 3 races and yes he did pick up a overall, let's just hope that's not the shining moment from his GP career. We would like to see him compete some more on European tracks.
struth wrote:
He did not start in 2 of the last three numskull

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The Source wrote:
Which means he did not place "within seconds of the first place finisher in the last few races", Correct?
Why you would include last round is beyond me, you do know did not start the last race,, correct!
mattktmhall 4/27/2015 12:20am
4/27/2015 12:20am
You can't shit on him for being injured
The Source 4/27/2015 12:28am
4/27/2015 12:28am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2015 12:30am
struth wrote:
He did not start in 2 of the last three numskull

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The Source wrote:
Which means he did not place "within seconds of the first place finisher in the last few races", Correct?
struth wrote:
Why you would include last round is beyond me, you do know did not start the last race,, correct!
we both know that, this casual observer seems to be a little out of touch with the situation.

"Outsider wrote: And yet he won an overall and was within seconds of first place the last few races"
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robkinuk 4/27/2015 12:34am
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jamma10 wrote:
Tony Cairoli ‏@Antoniocairoli 3m3 minutes ago

Bad weekend but luckly nothing too serious after this crash....small fracture on my left hand! 10days of rest!
https://www.youtube.com/embed/OGEPaTqOTao …


Update from Jill's Facebook. Doesn't sound too serious, but have to respect how he gutted out a 7th place in moto 2 with a fracture!

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Outsider 4/27/2015 1:08am
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The Source wrote:
Which means he did not place "within seconds of the first place finisher in the last few races", Correct?
struth wrote:
Why you would include last round is beyond me, you do know did not start the last race,, correct!
The Source wrote:
we both know that, this casual observer seems to be a little out of touch with the situation. "Outsider wrote: And yet he won an overall...
we both know that, this casual observer seems to be a little out of touch with the situation.

"Outsider wrote: And yet he won an overall and was within seconds of first place the last few races"
Jesus Christ, I was referring to the previous races he finished.. I thought that would be a given.

I should have known better... Dry
RichardLoots 4/27/2015 1:42am
4/27/2015 1:42am
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Captain America was never part of the Championship, only a novelty for a market share on a one off gamble that is not paying off .
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And yet he won an overall and was within seconds of first place the last few races... Cairoli would have been lucky for a top 5...
And yet he won an overall and was within seconds of first place the last few races... Cairoli would have been lucky for a top 5 in the US nationals... opps
within seconds of first place but yet nothing more as a 4th place ?? sounds better as it really was he , he could never challenge for the win except in Thailand the first moto ..... Who you think would beat Cairoli in US nationals him not getting a top 5 ?? im pretty sure he would get a top 5 finish ...Tomac would be his top contender outdoors , maybe Roczen and Dungey but thats it
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themrtoad 4/27/2015 1:59am
4/27/2015 1:59am
I will officially stop predicting results. I suck really bad at it. I thought GP21 would have a really bad weekend too.

I think this GP will play out pretty much like the others so far in MXGP.

MX2
1) Herlings
2) Jonass
3)Tixier
4)Ferrandis
5)Bogers

MXGP
1)Cairoli (tied on points with Nagl
2)Nagl
3)Villopoto
4)Desalle
5)Febvre

Wildcard Coldenhoff and De Dycker

I wish I could put Van Horebeek in there somewhere, but this just isn't his year. The same goes for De Dycker, but time is running out for him.
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struth 4/27/2015 2:18am
4/27/2015 2:18am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2015 2:20am
Ken.,rd,tomac, canard,bagget, maybe barcia
Possible push Ac outside top 5 on USA soil


Oh also js7
RichardLoots 4/27/2015 2:31am
4/27/2015 2:31am
struth wrote:
Ken.,rd,tomac, canard,bagget, maybe barcia
Possible push Ac outside top 5 on USA soil


Oh also js7
bagget , barcia ?? really ...... lol ...quess you were one of the fans thinking Rv coming over and dominate the MXGP
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Outsider 4/27/2015 2:36am
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struth wrote:
Ken.,rd,tomac, canard,bagget, maybe barcia
Possible push Ac outside top 5 on USA soil


Oh also js7
RichardLoots wrote:
bagget , barcia ?? really ...... lol ...quess you were one of the fans thinking Rv coming over and dominate the MXGP
It's a different world coming and going from US to Europe and vice versa... says all the riders that have done it.
RichardLoots 4/27/2015 2:40am
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struth wrote:
Ken.,rd,tomac, canard,bagget, maybe barcia
Possible push Ac outside top 5 on USA soil


Oh also js7
RichardLoots wrote:
bagget , barcia ?? really ...... lol ...quess you were one of the fans thinking Rv coming over and dominate the MXGP
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It's a different world coming and going from US to Europe and vice versa... says all the riders that have done it.
thats true , but Cairoli is used to adapt to different circuits like we have at MXGP. Some off the tracks arent that different from youre US tracks .... as results in MXON stated he won all his motos last years beating all US riders , so dont see any reason why he wouldnt make top 5 like RV does over here ...... its not like the tracks in the USA are more difficult as in MXGP.
There must be a reason why he is a 8 time worldchampion dont you think?
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jamma10 4/27/2015 2:44am
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I think the biggest change for Cairoli would be swapping to a 450, which I think he would have to do inorder to be properly competitive in the States.
RichardLoots 4/27/2015 2:45am
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I think the biggest change for Cairoli would be swapping to a 450, which I think he [i]would[/i] have to do inorder to be properly competitive...
I think the biggest change for Cairoli would be swapping to a 450, which I think he would have to do inorder to be properly competitive in the States.
i agree , on the faster style US tracks he would need a 450 but the difference these days between the 2 isnt that much in HP and weight ....
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struth 4/27/2015 2:57am
4/27/2015 2:57am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2015 3:03am
struth wrote:
Ken.,rd,tomac, canard,bagget, maybe barcia
Possible push Ac outside top 5 on USA soil


Oh also js7
RichardLoots wrote:
bagget , barcia ?? really ...... lol ...quess you were one of the fans thinking Rv coming over and dominate the MXGP
Nah mate I had rv fourth to eighth....N second half of season some overalls, France st d'angely he would win imo.
Barcia maybe not so much..
But bagget if his wrist 100%, he will get podiums n race wins.

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Olson 4/27/2015 3:51am
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Keep up the good work guys! These threads are plenty entertaining. Not.
mikebrownsound 4/27/2015 6:20am
4/27/2015 6:20am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2015 6:21am
Why are people so upset at the Source? We all have different opinions? All it took was one cairoli crash to make some individuals go all patriotic from both sides to argue about AMA VS GP`s again I love it. No wonder why the people in the industry laugh at vital forum etc. I hope cairoli is back soon, it sucks to see the two major champions go out injured already. Maybe RV got a slight chance after all.



mikebrownsound 4/27/2015 6:22am
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jamma10 wrote:
I think the biggest change for Cairoli would be swapping to a 450, which I think he [i]would[/i] have to do inorder to be properly competitive...
I think the biggest change for Cairoli would be swapping to a 450, which I think he would have to do inorder to be properly competitive in the States.
I think he did plenty well on that 350 over here to ? But yeah the 450 would be a better option.
overthebars39 4/27/2015 6:44am
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And yet he won an overall and was within seconds of first place the last few races... Cairoli would have been lucky for a top 5...
And yet he won an overall and was within seconds of first place the last few races... Cairoli would have been lucky for a top 5 in the US nationals... opps
Your whisfull thinking never gets old Laughing
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DeStouwer 4/27/2015 7:25am
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Anyone knows why Frossard didn't start in the second moto?
Also if Guarneri is injured very bad? Was riding pretty good until he crashed out.
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CoccoBill 4/27/2015 7:39am
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DeStouwer wrote:
Anyone knows why Frossard didn't start in the second moto?
Also if Guarneri is injured very bad? Was riding pretty good until he crashed out.
Guarneri was banned form racing second moto because he had a concussion and temporarily lost consciousness when he crashed in first moto. He was doing good!
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AK74 4/27/2015 7:44am
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Anyone knows why Frossard didn't start in the second moto?
Also if Guarneri is injured very bad? Was riding pretty good until he crashed out.
During commentary Malin mentioned Frossard was suffering with a damaged/sprained thumb.
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PressPassP 4/27/2015 8:18am
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The Source wrote:
Captain America was never part of the Championship, only a novelty for a market share on a one off gamble that is not paying off .
Outsider wrote:
And yet he won an overall and was within seconds of first place the last few races... Cairoli would have been lucky for a top 5...
And yet he won an overall and was within seconds of first place the last few races... Cairoli would have been lucky for a top 5 in the US nationals... opps
On the pace with them aside from Nagl,the guy coasted the last lap dropping about 10 seconds,fair play,no one was getting near him

(Popping up with lucky top 5 is just trollingTongue )
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PressPassP 4/27/2015 8:20am
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PressPassP wrote:
That 1st Moto crash affected more AC than most thought,Great win for Paulin though,this Championship has had everyone guessing
kongols wrote:
Who cares.
About what exactly?
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Glory 4/27/2015 8:29am
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Hope those guys shows up to Glen Helen to prove it. Doesn't get anymore fair than that, GP format on an american track. Well sure yoy could argue that guys like Nagl, Desalle and Cairoli doesn't need to beat them to win the title
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TDeath21 4/27/2015 8:51am
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Glory wrote:
Hope those guys shows up to Glen Helen to prove it. Doesn't get anymore fair than that, GP format on an american track. Well sure yoy...
Hope those guys shows up to Glen Helen to prove it. Doesn't get anymore fair than that, GP format on an american track. Well sure yoy could argue that guys like Nagl, Desalle and Cairoli doesn't need to beat them to win the title
I think anyone racing the Des Nations that races the AMA series should race the Glen Helen GP. It hurts the AMA riders to have such a long lay off. It would be great to stay in race shape and get used to the format on a track they're familiar with. I'd love to see a lot of top guys there, but at the very least I hope we see all AMA Des Nations participants there.
mikebrownsound 4/27/2015 9:03am
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Glory wrote:
Hope those guys shows up to Glen Helen to prove it. Doesn't get anymore fair than that, GP format on an american track. Well sure yoy...
Hope those guys shows up to Glen Helen to prove it. Doesn't get anymore fair than that, GP format on an american track. Well sure yoy could argue that guys like Nagl, Desalle and Cairoli doesn't need to beat them to win the title
prove what? They dont prove anything unless they race a full series over here just like musquin, roczen, teh same goes for RV. They would probably b e good enough to land podiums not denying that but this argument is beoynd pathetic atm.

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