2015 Factory edition KTM 450

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Performance Cycle in Dalton GA has a 2015 450 FE in stock. His out the door price loaded up in your truck is $10,300. Call him today and let him know Patrick referred you. I'm sure this one won't be sitting there long. 706-226-5269
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I am crossing my fingers every time I start my bike. It seems like the battery is dead at first then it gets going. I have...
I am crossing my fingers every time I start my bike. It seems like the battery is dead at first then it gets going. I have no clue how to start this thing cold. Anyone know? I push the choke in and it seems to already be in, like no click. I can pull it out and it will click but that is supposed to be choke off so you wouldn't want to start it out right? Doesn't it just pop out automatically when the bike gets warm? (that is what I thought I saw happen the first time I rode it) I had a hard time getting it going last time I rode. It hasn't failed me yet but it has me worried. The manual is very vague on this, just says to push in the button for cold start and that is all, and the picture in the manual where they show the cold start button is not the same as where it actually is on the bike.

I want to get another battery to have on hand I don't trust these little suckers, I'm going to keep an extra charged batter on hand at all times. Mine came brand new with a dead battery and my local shop said they didn't have another one they were back ordered till may also. I went and found a charger mentioned on here and got it charged and it has stayed charged since.

Also I have no clue how to find the settings for the mapping in the airbox. The manual is so vague it makes no sense at all. Can anyone elaborate on it. How do you switch the settings? I can't even tell what it's set at. What is it supposed to come stock set at?

Sounds like a lot of complaining but I love the bike it's going to be awesome once I get it all dialed in. The feel of the chassis is so awesome I love it. I had a Kawi too and I agree on the turning part, night and day better.
Sounds to me like you didn't read the manual for the cold starting procedure. It outlines exactly what you need to do. The battery builds power with use. So you push the button, let it rest for about 20 seconds. Push it again, let it rest. As the battery warms due to demand, it generates power. Do that a couple of times and your bike will start just fine.

I wouldn't "not trust" the battery, I'd simply learn how to get the most of it. There's no need to have a second battery, unless you want to.

Shane
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ejlif242 wrote:
I am crossing my fingers every time I start my bike. It seems like the battery is dead at first then it gets going. I have...
I am crossing my fingers every time I start my bike. It seems like the battery is dead at first then it gets going. I have no clue how to start this thing cold. Anyone know? I push the choke in and it seems to already be in, like no click. I can pull it out and it will click but that is supposed to be choke off so you wouldn't want to start it out right? Doesn't it just pop out automatically when the bike gets warm? (that is what I thought I saw happen the first time I rode it) I had a hard time getting it going last time I rode. It hasn't failed me yet but it has me worried. The manual is very vague on this, just says to push in the button for cold start and that is all, and the picture in the manual where they show the cold start button is not the same as where it actually is on the bike.

I want to get another battery to have on hand I don't trust these little suckers, I'm going to keep an extra charged batter on hand at all times. Mine came brand new with a dead battery and my local shop said they didn't have another one they were back ordered till may also. I went and found a charger mentioned on here and got it charged and it has stayed charged since.

Also I have no clue how to find the settings for the mapping in the airbox. The manual is so vague it makes no sense at all. Can anyone elaborate on it. How do you switch the settings? I can't even tell what it's set at. What is it supposed to come stock set at?

Sounds like a lot of complaining but I love the bike it's going to be awesome once I get it all dialed in. The feel of the chassis is so awesome I love it. I had a Kawi too and I agree on the turning part, night and day better.
Sounds to me like you didn't read the manual for the cold starting procedure. It outlines exactly what you need to do. The battery builds power...
Sounds to me like you didn't read the manual for the cold starting procedure. It outlines exactly what you need to do. The battery builds power with use. So you push the button, let it rest for about 20 seconds. Push it again, let it rest. As the battery warms due to demand, it generates power. Do that a couple of times and your bike will start just fine.

I wouldn't "not trust" the battery, I'd simply learn how to get the most of it. There's no need to have a second battery, unless you want to.

Shane
OK I will follow this procedure. It seems like it cranks a bit before it fires is the main thing I was worried about. I will try to do it just like you described and see how it goes. It fires up instantly after that initial start up, just pull the clutch in don't even have to put it in neutral.
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For all you guys waiting for you FE addition 450. There is one at ATVS and more in Salem Illinois that is unspoken for. Just walked by it about 2 minutes ago

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Do not know how to upload a pic from my phone but their phone number is 618-548-1639
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Don't let their name fool you this a full-on race shop and they take care of their racers
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4/21/2015 8:53am
ejlif242 wrote:
I am crossing my fingers every time I start my bike. It seems like the battery is dead at first then it gets going. I have...
I am crossing my fingers every time I start my bike. It seems like the battery is dead at first then it gets going. I have no clue how to start this thing cold. Anyone know? I push the choke in and it seems to already be in, like no click. I can pull it out and it will click but that is supposed to be choke off so you wouldn't want to start it out right? Doesn't it just pop out automatically when the bike gets warm? (that is what I thought I saw happen the first time I rode it) I had a hard time getting it going last time I rode. It hasn't failed me yet but it has me worried. The manual is very vague on this, just says to push in the button for cold start and that is all, and the picture in the manual where they show the cold start button is not the same as where it actually is on the bike.

I want to get another battery to have on hand I don't trust these little suckers, I'm going to keep an extra charged batter on hand at all times. Mine came brand new with a dead battery and my local shop said they didn't have another one they were back ordered till may also. I went and found a charger mentioned on here and got it charged and it has stayed charged since.

Also I have no clue how to find the settings for the mapping in the airbox. The manual is so vague it makes no sense at all. Can anyone elaborate on it. How do you switch the settings? I can't even tell what it's set at. What is it supposed to come stock set at?

Sounds like a lot of complaining but I love the bike it's going to be awesome once I get it all dialed in. The feel of the chassis is so awesome I love it. I had a Kawi too and I agree on the turning part, night and day better.
Sounds to me like you didn't read the manual for the cold starting procedure. It outlines exactly what you need to do. The battery builds power...
Sounds to me like you didn't read the manual for the cold starting procedure. It outlines exactly what you need to do. The battery builds power with use. So you push the button, let it rest for about 20 seconds. Push it again, let it rest. As the battery warms due to demand, it generates power. Do that a couple of times and your bike will start just fine.

I wouldn't "not trust" the battery, I'd simply learn how to get the most of it. There's no need to have a second battery, unless you want to.

Shane
I did it like that and it worked great fired right up. The manual is a little vague on this as well as how to set the mapping. It does not show you to open up that rubber cover and the selector switch is inside. I finally figured it out and was able to change it.

Also when riding at one point the bike lost power like it was running out of gas. I thought it wouldn't make it off the track. I pulled off and then started it back up. It seemed to be running fine. I went back and checked it over, made sure the battery connection was good. I couldn't find anything and it ran fine the next moto. Weird. Any ideas?
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On my old KTM I had a simaler problem and it was a clogged fuel line filter. Not sure where they are on the new bike. But it's between the take and the EFI. Maybe near the fuel line separation? Or right at the end of the line before the EFI?


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Finally showed up. Does anyone know which map is which under the airbox. I didn't see any numbers labeled on anything. I want it so the stock map and aggressive are Accessable by the handlebar switch. Also anyone figure out how to activate launch control... Manual is very a vauge.. Kyle
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Nice dude!
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Moto3731 wrote:
Finally showed up. Does anyone know which map is which under the airbox. I didn't see any numbers labeled on anything. I want it so the...
Finally showed up. Does anyone know which map is which under the airbox. I didn't see any numbers labeled on anything. I want it so the stock map and aggressive are Accessable by the handlebar switch. Also anyone figure out how to activate launch control... Manual is very a vauge.. Kyle
Launch control is that grip on the right. You turn it back towards you counter clockwise. The more you turn the more you launch.
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Moto3731 wrote:
Finally showed up. Does anyone know which map is which under the airbox. I didn't see any numbers labeled on anything. I want it so the...
Finally showed up. Does anyone know which map is which under the airbox. I didn't see any numbers labeled on anything. I want it so the stock map and aggressive are Accessable by the handlebar switch. Also anyone figure out how to activate launch control... Manual is very a vauge.. Kyle
Markee wrote:
Launch control is that grip on the right. You turn it back towards you counter clockwise. The more you turn the more you launch.
Unfortunately that is not correct. The manual does blow when it comes to explaining a lot of things. I've raced mine and have the launch control figured out. Call me and I'll explain it. 508 243 1232 Mike
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Moto3731 wrote:
Finally showed up. Does anyone know which map is which under the airbox. I didn't see any numbers labeled on anything. I want it so the...
Finally showed up. Does anyone know which map is which under the airbox. I didn't see any numbers labeled on anything. I want it so the stock map and aggressive are Accessable by the handlebar switch. Also anyone figure out how to activate launch control... Manual is very a vauge.. Kyle
Markee wrote:
Launch control is that grip on the right. You turn it back towards you counter clockwise. The more you turn the more you launch.
Digger29 wrote:
Unfortunately that is not correct. The manual does blow when it comes to explaining a lot of things. I've raced mine and have the launch control...
Unfortunately that is not correct. The manual does blow when it comes to explaining a lot of things. I've raced mine and have the launch control figured out. Call me and I'll explain it. 508 243 1232 Mike
Hey Digger/Mike, is it possible to write up a few "How To" steps for everyone? That would be amazing!
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FYI Digger, if you didn't know... your 300sx popped up on my FB in a meme with a rusted truck that said "Motocrossers, $800 truck - $8,500 bike" I lol'd!
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4/22/2015 7:17am Edited Date/Time 4/22/2015 7:18am
slipdog wrote:
FYI Digger, if you didn't know... your 300sx popped up on my FB in a meme with a rusted truck that said "Motocrossers, $800 truck -...
FYI Digger, if you didn't know... your 300sx popped up on my FB in a meme with a rusted truck that said "Motocrossers, $800 truck - $8,500 bike" I lol'd!
Have they seen Diggers' truck?!?! I'd have it for 800 bucks!
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slipdog wrote:
FYI Digger, if you didn't know... your 300sx popped up on my FB in a meme with a rusted truck that said "Motocrossers, $800 truck -...
FYI Digger, if you didn't know... your 300sx popped up on my FB in a meme with a rusted truck that said "Motocrossers, $800 truck - $8,500 bike" I lol'd!
You have no idea how many people have sent that to me. Super funny :-)
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4/22/2015 8:25am Edited Date/Time 4/22/2015 8:29am



* Your bike comes on the standard map number 3 on the ECU map switch under the seat in your air box and for some stupid reason launch control is deactivated when it's on number 3 so you have to choose either number 1 which is the mild mode or number 2 which is the advanced or aggressive mode. I chose number 2. Once you've set it to either 1 or 2 the launch control is now active.
* So then you when you want to test it out you only have to move the handlebar switch from position 2 to 1 and back to 2 and then the FI light on the top triple clamp will start blinking fast and now you're in launch mode. You have 3 mins to launch or it reverts back to normal mode. I made the mistake on race day of blipping the throttle on my first 2 starts and the light went out and I couldn't figure out why. One my last 2 motos I didn't set it the guy the 30 sec card went up and I didn't touch the throttle until the card went sideways and I then held it probably 3/4 throttle and I knew it was working because the engine was warbling and the FI light was blinking fast still. I got a 2nd place start in that moto and a holeshot in my 4th moto of the day.
* I hate the fact that you can't use it when you're the standard mode (number 3 in the air box) and I really hate the fact that the handlebar switch is mounted on the throttle side on the brake reservoir because it's under both throttle cables and it isn't the easiest switch to move when you have easy access to it never mind that it's under your both cables which really makes it a pain in the ass to get to. I tried to move the switch after practice but there's not enough wire to do it so I did it at home. You need to take tank off and drain your coolant because the wire is under the top radiator hose on the throttle side of the bike. You need to totally move the wire from where it's routed on the throttle side of the frame over to the clutch side of the frame and then it will reach the clutch perch. It took a good 45 mins to do but in the end it will be well worth it (to me at least). Sorry for the blurry pic of the selector under the seat but it's the only I had in my phone. If anyone has any questions feel free to call me 508 243 1232
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4/22/2015 8:42am Edited Date/Time 4/22/2015 8:45am
I rode around 100 laps at MX207 in Maine on Sunday and I truly feel that the new FE450 is an amazing bike. I'm a DIEHARD 2 stroke guy and it really pains me to say it but it's like riding my 15 300SX 2 stroke but better because it has an amazing motor that has virtually zero engine braking and handles like it's on rails on the track. It turns better than anything I've ridden and you can go anywhere you want in instant like I used to do on my 2 strokes and that you can't do on any 4 stroke that I've ridden. It's super light and feels even lighter on the track. There were over 250 riders at the open practice and the track got pretty rough and the bike shined in the rough. It was very stable on the 2 rough straights there and was a pleasure to jump. It's a very confidence inspiring bike to ride.


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4/22/2015 9:57am
.....'"so you have to choose either number 1 which is the mild mode or number 2 which is the advanced or aggressive mode. I chose number 2"......

If I understand correctly, 3 is STD, 1 is Mild and 2 is Advanced/aggressive - what is 4 thru 9 for? Placebo's?Wink Silly
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Tim507 wrote:
.....'"so you have to choose either number 1 which is the mild mode or number 2 which is the advanced or aggressive mode. I chose number...
.....'"so you have to choose either number 1 which is the mild mode or number 2 which is the advanced or aggressive mode. I chose number 2"......

If I understand correctly, 3 is STD, 1 is Mild and 2 is Advanced/aggressive - what is 4 thru 9 for? Placebo's?Wink Silly
I assume they're there so you can add custom maps.
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OK thanks guys especially dig for helping me out! But hey I was reading the manual very thurrow and it says that obviously launch control only works when on two or one but it also states that number one on the handlebar switch is always in standard mode so that means if you pick one or two it will always be number two on the handle bar and one is always standard. If this is true you can use launch control on the standard mode... So if your on two under the seat and one one on the handle bar which should be stock. You go to 2 then back to 1 on the bar and the launch mode starts which means you can use it in the standard mode. Again it says no matter the number you have the dial on 1 on the bar should always be the standard map. The a u a lot suck's so we just got to play with the settings to figure it out.
4/22/2015 1:25pm
slipdog wrote:
FYI Digger, if you didn't know... your 300sx popped up on my FB in a meme with a rusted truck that said "Motocrossers, $800 truck -...
FYI Digger, if you didn't know... your 300sx popped up on my FB in a meme with a rusted truck that said "Motocrossers, $800 truck - $8,500 bike" I lol'd!
Crush wrote:
Have they seen Diggers' truck?!?! I'd have it for 800 bucks!
I'd have his bike for 8500 to
4/22/2015 1:26pm Edited Date/Time 4/22/2015 1:30pm
Tim507 wrote:
.....'"so you have to choose either number 1 which is the mild mode or number 2 which is the advanced or aggressive mode. I chose number...
.....'"so you have to choose either number 1 which is the mild mode or number 2 which is the advanced or aggressive mode. I chose number 2"......

If I understand correctly, 3 is STD, 1 is Mild and 2 is Advanced/aggressive - what is 4 thru 9 for? Placebo's?Wink Silly
690 had more settings then maps as well.

Edit: looking at digger's pics. Exactly the same switch as the 690 enduro. I think they found them somewhere and bought a huge bulk of it, instead of designing their own switches.
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Digger29 wrote:
I rode around 100 laps at MX207 in Maine on Sunday and I truly feel that the new FE450 is an amazing bike. I'm a DIEHARD...
I rode around 100 laps at MX207 in Maine on Sunday and I truly feel that the new FE450 is an amazing bike. I'm a DIEHARD 2 stroke guy and it really pains me to say it but it's like riding my 15 300SX 2 stroke but better because it has an amazing motor that has virtually zero engine braking and handles like it's on rails on the track. It turns better than anything I've ridden and you can go anywhere you want in instant like I used to do on my 2 strokes and that you can't do on any 4 stroke that I've ridden. It's super light and feels even lighter on the track. There were over 250 riders at the open practice and the track got pretty rough and the bike shined in the rough. It was very stable on the 2 rough straights there and was a pleasure to jump. It's a very confidence inspiring bike to ride.


Nice Dirt
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OK I take that last statement back... The manual suck's. When you have it on two under the seat two on the bar is the slow map and one is aggressive on the bar. Completely opposite what the manual says. Once anyone one figures out what the switch on the bar changes when on differnt setting goals u serious the seat please post.
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4/24/2015 9:07am Edited Date/Time 4/24/2015 9:09am
OK, so I got my launch control to work yesterday by putting the dial under the seat on map 2. It's a round dial with a rubber cover mounted to the battery inside the Airbox.

I'm assuming that when you select the dial map, corresponds to map 2 on the bar, so it could be aggressive or standard, your choice based on the dial. I assume map 1 on the bar is always standard map, no matter what...
Digger, I think the reason yours get deactivated because it says, if you open the throttle and close it by more then 1/3 it will turn off.. To reactivate, you need to turn off the bike for 10 seconds.


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Yeah that's what I stated above about standard mode always being on setting one on the bars. When I'm on two under the seat and one on the bar it feels like the slower mode to me. Number three under the seat feels more aggressive. I've got to test it some more to figure it out
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Digger29 wrote:
I rode around 100 laps at MX207 in Maine on Sunday and I truly feel that the new FE450 is an amazing bike. I'm a DIEHARD...
I rode around 100 laps at MX207 in Maine on Sunday and I truly feel that the new FE450 is an amazing bike. I'm a DIEHARD 2 stroke guy and it really pains me to say it but it's like riding my 15 300SX 2 stroke but better because it has an amazing motor that has virtually zero engine braking and handles like it's on rails on the track. It turns better than anything I've ridden and you can go anywhere you want in instant like I used to do on my 2 strokes and that you can't do on any 4 stroke that I've ridden. It's super light and feels even lighter on the track. There were over 250 riders at the open practice and the track got pretty rough and the bike shined in the rough. It was very stable on the 2 rough straights there and was a pleasure to jump. It's a very confidence inspiring bike to ride.


I noticed you removed the front sprocket guard. What are you doing for a top chain slider?

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