So if Peick does better in the Nationals

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jeffro503 4/4/2015 10:39am
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UpTiTe wrote:
When/if Barcia figures out a 450, he will be a force. He is a highly talented rider that still has a mile of potential. Pieck will...
When/if Barcia figures out a 450, he will be a force. He is a highly talented rider that still has a mile of potential.


Pieck will never get any better then he is right now.
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I dont get the logic in this statement. You award a ""mile of potential" to someone who hasnt really shown any improvement on a 450, while...
I dont get the logic in this statement. You award a ""mile of potential" to someone who hasnt really shown any improvement on a 450, while setting a limit for Peick who has done nothing but show the ability to improve.
Because uptite has had a stick up his ass about Weston since day one. He's said the same things like this two years ago when Weston was fighting in the LCQ races. Now?.....he's posted fastest top 5 Quali times and he still won't give him credit.

Did anyone expect Weston to be as fast as he is right now? Jesus Christ , I talked to Lou a couple weeks ago and he even said Weston is surprising the hell out of him! Proud dad to say the least , as he should be!
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jeffro503 4/4/2015 10:41am
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I'm guessing Pieck never wins an event. This year or next. Indoors or out. He's had opportunity this year and tosses the anchor. He's been doing...
I'm guessing Pieck never wins an event. This year or next. Indoors or out. He's had opportunity this year and tosses the anchor. He's been doing respectable, but there's too many guys that have it all together. And if the anchor comes out ten minutes into a SX main, it'll come out in an outdoor moto.

I'll be surprised if he gets on the podium personally.

That said, his performance has been way better than Barcia. Then again, Barcia has been injured and not been racing. Everyone in the mains has been doing better than him.

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Maybe the pain from the injuries is slowing him down at the half way point of the race. Fact is nobody but Weston is showing improvement...
Maybe the pain from the injuries is slowing him down at the half way point of the race. Fact is nobody but Weston is showing improvement at the pace he has been improving. His improvement rate is not very common and damn near impossible. Name another racer that has conquered the learning curve like Weston has and still is. No ceiling in site at this point for Weston.
Fuck yeah Bobby knows what's up!
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shuggs 4/4/2015 10:48am
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Maybe the pain from the injuries is slowing him down at the half way point of the race. Fact is nobody but Weston is showing improvement...
Maybe the pain from the injuries is slowing him down at the half way point of the race. Fact is nobody but Weston is showing improvement at the pace he has been improving. His improvement rate is not very common and damn near impossible. Name another racer that has conquered the learning curve like Weston has and still is. No ceiling in site at this point for Weston.
Goes back a few years but the only one I can think of is Smets in GP's, fighting against people who were more naturally talented but still managed to claim a couple of titles.
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Scrubadub 4/4/2015 10:48am
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Wow! Looks like a lotta guys are already writing Barcia off. Before you go doing that better ask yourselves this... Who has the most raw speed and aggression of anyone currently signed up for the 450 outdoor series? You have got to put him in the top 5 of that list like him or not. I'm not saying he is gonna win the championship but he sure as hell has a better shot at it than Peick and there is no way Weston will finish the season with more points than Justin,... barring major injury of course.

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Zracer 4/4/2015 11:28am
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Thats really what it boils down to I guess.I believe ,in the end,Barcia and Peick will have the same amount of 450 titles.
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Detroit Dick 4/4/2015 11:36am
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Barcia will win 4-6 motos and finish Top 5 outdoors. Tramp Stamp it....Evil
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moose man 4/4/2015 11:38am
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Half u don't have a clue wp 23 is still recovering from his foot he is going to be good come outdoors and a solid rider ...next year wp well be a title contender in sx mx dude well put the work.in to get there if u don't think that's true your dumb ......now Justin barcia he wont do shit out doors he tryst to ride a 450 like a 250 and burns all his energy 15 min in and next season I still don't see him doing shit him and the jgr bike don't go together ....WP 23 well be the main guy this summer and next year for jgr............
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BobbyM 4/4/2015 11:47am
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Bullshit... How you or anybody else for that matter can say anything about Westons potential at this point in time cracks me up. Barcia's a bust in the men's class and it's all because of attitude. Like night and day compared to Weston's.. I could never imagine Peick roosting a track side medical worker after getting smoked fair and square. Can you?
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philG 4/4/2015 12:13pm
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Maverick313 wrote:
Why all the hate on Barcia again and his past has shown he is worth the investment. 2 - 250 SX titles 11 - 250 SX...
Why all the hate on Barcia again and his past has shown he is worth the investment.

2 - 250 SX titles
11 - 250 SX Wins
3 - 250 MX Wins
2- 450 SX Wins

By my count that's two titles and 16 wins more wins then Peick.
Also Barcia has 57 podiums and Peick has 0.
But compared to his 250 form, on a 450 he hasnt delivered. Raw speed is ok, last time I checked, that didn't give prizes for that.
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wanglimp 4/4/2015 12:18pm
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Does Vital issue out the Magic 8 balls to see the future results that riders have, if so where can I get one?
wired4speed 4/4/2015 12:27pm
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BobbyM wrote:
Bullshit... How you or anybody else for that matter can say anything about Westons potential at this point in time cracks me up. Barcia's a bust...
Bullshit... How you or anybody else for that matter can say anything about Westons potential at this point in time cracks me up. Barcia's a bust in the men's class and it's all because of attitude. Like night and day compared to Weston's.. I could never imagine Peick roosting a track side medical worker after getting smoked fair and square. Can you?
Barcia's a bust....that's some funny fucking shit right there. ...you bitch that no one can see Weston's potential and then make a statement that a younger racer in the 450f class doesn't have the same future chance in the big boy's class.


Fuck you BobbyM, I'll run over yer good leg

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gsxrcr28 4/4/2015 12:43pm
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than Barcia, what happens to Barcias stock?...I'm assuming Barcia signed for 2 years, so he could make a comeback next year I suppose. I think it...
than Barcia, what happens to Barcias stock?...I'm assuming Barcia signed for 2 years, so he could make a comeback next year I suppose. I think it would be cool to see him go over there and race the GP's.
I don't see Barcia racing the GP's, RV has shown its a lot harder than most people thought, although it's still very early in the season. I think his stock will be fine, he has shown he can win races, and that's huge to sponsors and teams.
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TDeath21 4/4/2015 12:44pm
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Barcia can't seem to get a start anymore. He used to be money with his starts. I'm not sure what happened. Those are killing him.
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stewie94 4/4/2015 1:08pm
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to be quiet , they both been hurt this season , while weston has more recovery time we really wont know untill next year their both healthy
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Cygnus 4/4/2015 1:14pm
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BobbyM wrote:
Bullshit... How you or anybody else for that matter can say anything about Westons potential at this point in time cracks me up. Barcia's a bust...
Bullshit... How you or anybody else for that matter can say anything about Westons potential at this point in time cracks me up. Barcia's a bust in the men's class and it's all because of attitude. Like night and day compared to Weston's.. I could never imagine Peick roosting a track side medical worker after getting smoked fair and square. Can you?
He just pulls punches on track workers.
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moose man 4/4/2015 1:38pm
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Keyboard, warrior u don't pay attention to nothing peick is the guy putting in the work losing the weight grabbing harder them most in my eyes and any one who pays attention knows he can be a top.guy next year ..... barcia is done he wont do shit outdoors and next season if he doesn't learn how to ride a 450. He wont do nothing but get hurt most of u thing barcia is gunna kill ot cause he was good on a 250but that shit doesn't work on a 450 so please tell.me how the hell.is he gunna contender .
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Weston should contact Aldon now! He will shine in 2016 SX
Barcia s done with the Yami... St**p it!
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Moto331 4/4/2015 2:04pm
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Really rooting for him in the nats

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Sandwarrior752 4/4/2015 2:13pm
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I don't see him doing better in the Outdoors then in Supercross honestly. I think he is far more skilled for SX. Allthought i hope he proves me wrong that would be cool. But i am not sold on his fitness especially not with his injuries this year. Last year he scored 1 top 5 overal finish at Budds Creek and his carreer best outdoor result is a 4th overal at the 2013 Utah National.
With that said he does look really good on that Yamaha this year. So who knows if he can get that fitness and injury stuff sorted out we can see him battle for top 5s and work up to podium finishes.
Good thing Barcia has a 2 year deal it is GO time for him. 2014 he missed the bigger part of the outdoors only raced the 1st 2 rounds. (Don't remember what happened to him honestly) and same with SX this year .. i dig his riding style except for the agressive stuff.
Maverick313 4/4/2015 3:45pm
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So who does better outdoors Barcia or Peick?
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moose man 4/4/2015 3:54pm
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In supercross yes outdoors hell no and he wont see a nother win on a 450 so its ok dude don't get ur pantries in a bunch over jb not havering it any more
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BobbyM 4/4/2015 3:54pm
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Maverick313 wrote:
So who does better outdoors Barcia or Peick?
Weston will...Barcia's riding a POS.
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wanglimp 4/4/2015 4:05pm
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Maverick313 wrote:
So who does better outdoors Barcia or Peick?
I am thinking Peick will do better. Thats my opinion.

What was the year that Barcia was a 250 guy but he rode some 450 nationals, and was doing awesome? He needs to find that speed again, and if he does he can be a serious threat.
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downard254 4/4/2015 4:20pm
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I think Weston is the new Junkyard Dog. And I remember Dowdy giving Emig fits during the outdoors one year.
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Tradmark 4/4/2015 10:58pm
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UpTiTe wrote:
When/if Barcia figures out a 450, he will be a force. He is a highly talented rider that still has a mile of potential. Pieck will...
When/if Barcia figures out a 450, he will be a force. He is a highly talented rider that still has a mile of potential.


Pieck will never get any better then he is right now.
This is in the running for the dumbest shit said on vital this year. Its possible you could come up with something more idiotic but i doubt it
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BobPA 4/4/2015 11:08pm
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moose man wrote:
In supercross yes outdoors hell no and he wont see a nother win on a 450 so its ok dude don't get ur pantries in a...
In supercross yes outdoors hell no and he wont see a nother win on a 450 so its ok dude don't get ur pantries in a bunch over jb not havering it any more
Your panties are bunch up tighter then anyone in this thread.
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Zracer 4/4/2015 11:11pm
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Maverick313 wrote:
So who does better outdoors Barcia or Peick?
I think Peick beats Barcia in the final points. Peick 5th Barcia 7th according to the magic 8 ball.
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Crush 4/4/2015 11:45pm
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moose man wrote:
Half u don't have a clue wp 23 is still recovering from his foot he is going to be good come outdoors and a solid rider...
Half u don't have a clue wp 23 is still recovering from his foot he is going to be good come outdoors and a solid rider ...next year wp well be a title contender in sx mx dude well put the work.in to get there if u don't think that's true your dumb ......now Justin barcia he wont do shit out doors he tryst to ride a 450 like a 250 and burns all his energy 15 min in and next season I still don't see him doing shit him and the jgr bike don't go together ....WP 23 well be the main guy this summer and next year for jgr............
I know it's par for the course around here, but come on, you can't call people out on being dumb for any reason whilst using well instead of will (twice); youre instead of you're; tryst instead of tries (lookup tryst by the way) and ignore everything regarding commas, full stops and general coherent english.

I'm not a Barcia fan by any means, not him nor his riding, but he's still done more than WP and has more talent in his right hand. We've got fuck all to compare them directly but what we do know is that Barcia has won and podiumed races against the same guys Weston is racing now. Comparisons for now are moot.
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Park Boys 4/5/2015 9:41am
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The Rock wrote:
Weston passing Dungey with the nose wheelie was up there with McGrath waiting to pass Emig in front of the mechanics area circa 96 at Binghamton...
Weston passing Dungey with the nose wheelie was up there with McGrath waiting to pass Emig in front of the mechanics area circa 96 at Binghamton during the 2nd moto.

Epic.
That never happened. MC had both holeshots and won. In the second moto Emig went from 15th to 2nd and then gave an epic podium speech. Just thought I would point that out....

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