Do others follow RV's footsteps?

The Source 3/30/2015 12:21pm
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Zach was a welcome American addition to the GP's, I'm sure RV had a conversation with him before deciding.
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Zach was a welcome American addition to the GP's, I'm sure RV had a conversation with him before deciding.
It was a vastly different reason for going over, before RV Americans went to the GP's because they didn't like SX (Donny) or in most cases its a last resort like for Zach because they could no longer get rides in the AMA. Going to the GP's usually was a death sentence as far as an American career was concerned.
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DonM 3/30/2015 12:45pm
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If Luongo is smart he will loosen the purse strings to persuade a top US rider to come over, but he will probably be arrogant and assume that after RV is gone that he will be able to keep the US and Euro fan base that he is cashing in on now because of his "superior " product....Once RV is gone the majority of US fans will go back to watch the US racing only and Vital will go back arguing only once a year as to who's series riders are better....
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DonM wrote:
If Luongo is smart he will loosen the purse strings to persuade a top US rider to come over, but he will probably be arrogant and...
If Luongo is smart he will loosen the purse strings to persuade a top US rider to come over, but he will probably be arrogant and assume that after RV is gone that he will be able to keep the US and Euro fan base that he is cashing in on now because of his "superior " product....Once RV is gone the majority of US fans will go back to watch the US racing only and Vital will go back arguing only once a year as to who's series riders are better....
Don I agree. Having signed up though for this seasons package, based on what I've seen besides rooting for RV is the fact that I have seen great racing and guys that are equal to the task regardless of continent. I think back to when I had to wait months to find out how DeCoster did via motocross action or dirt bike magazine, and now I have kind of rediscovered that cool factor about MXGP. My point is that I think I will continue to follow it past RV bowing out. I was really impressed by both the speed and the track. The racing was top notch.

If guys can get a big contract, and bow out of sx into their late 20's to avoid the potential career ending crash every lap of the sx season, and discover a longer and less frantic schedule, some may consider it.

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DonM wrote:
If Luongo is smart he will loosen the purse strings to persuade a top US rider to come over, but he will probably be arrogant and...
If Luongo is smart he will loosen the purse strings to persuade a top US rider to come over, but he will probably be arrogant and assume that after RV is gone that he will be able to keep the US and Euro fan base that he is cashing in on now because of his "superior " product....Once RV is gone the majority of US fans will go back to watch the US racing only and Vital will go back arguing only once a year as to who's series riders are better....
:Can I get this week's lottery numbers from you? It seems like you have knowing the future dialed.
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If those guys are in a situation where they need to finish out a contract obligation and just had surgery so they can't be ready to...
If those guys are in a situation where they need to finish out a contract obligation and just had surgery so they can't be ready to race in the US on time I could see it.
Although he was riding in Europe again a couple of weeks after the MXdN,many would have a strong argument he'd make SX ok,but the deal seemed to be done pretty early,I guess we can only speculate the real implications in the whole move
The Source 3/30/2015 7:57pm
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The Source wrote:
Zach was a welcome American addition to the GP's, I'm sure RV had a conversation with him before deciding.
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It was a vastly different reason for going over, before RV Americans went to the GP's because they didn't like SX (Donny) or in most cases...
It was a vastly different reason for going over, before RV Americans went to the GP's because they didn't like SX (Donny) or in most cases its a last resort like for Zach because they could no longer get rides in the AMA. Going to the GP's usually was a death sentence as far as an American career was concerned.
I guess Zach changed that. Wink
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WeiserGuy 3/30/2015 7:58pm
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I would've said NO until I listened to Reed on the DMXS radio show last week. Chad said he's had talks and is interested to committing to a full season in the GPs before he retires. Claimed he would love to show his children the world and it would be full circle for him and Ellie. I'd love to see it and it would be a great addition to Chad's book.
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dean122 3/30/2015 8:16pm
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The Source wrote:
Zach was a welcome American addition to the GP's, I'm sure RV had a conversation with him before deciding.
I can say as a matter of fact that at no point did RV ever talk to Zach before or after his GP decision.
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it's a No win situation, look at RV, this non stop banter is crazy. I'm going to say there isn't anyone willing to write a check...
it's a No win situation, look at RV, this non stop banter is crazy.

I'm going to say there isn't anyone willing to write a check big enough to get a guy like RV there for a long time.
haha no win situation? I would think the positives of seeing, enjoying and racing around the world far far outweigh the negatives of what some idiots on a message board have to say
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WeiserGuy wrote:
I would've said NO until I listened to Reed on the DMXS radio show last week. Chad said he's had talks and is interested to committing...
I would've said NO until I listened to Reed on the DMXS radio show last week. Chad said he's had talks and is interested to committing to a full season in the GPs before he retires. Claimed he would love to show his children the world and it would be full circle for him and Ellie. I'd love to see it and it would be a great addition to Chad's book.
Now that would be cool. Chad has got the chops to go there next year and give it a go. Sign me up for another year!
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WeiserGuy wrote:
I would've said NO until I listened to Reed on the DMXS radio show last week. Chad said he's had talks and is interested to committing...
I would've said NO until I listened to Reed on the DMXS radio show last week. Chad said he's had talks and is interested to committing to a full season in the GPs before he retires. Claimed he would love to show his children the world and it would be full circle for him and Ellie. I'd love to see it and it would be a great addition to Chad's book.
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Now that would be cool. Chad has got the chops to go there next year and give it a go. Sign me up for another year!
Reed finished 11th in the Nats last year behind Noren. Will he be battling AC, Nagl, Desalle and possibly Herlings for wins? Highly doubtful. I'm a fan of Reed and what he's accomplished in his career, but doing the GPs at this point in his career seems like a publicity stunt more than anything. Is a team willing to give Reed a ride and full effort so his family can see the world?
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I think more riders will for the right price, a lot of riders do supercross for the money I'm not sure how many prefer it to outdoors.
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WeiserGuy 3/30/2015 9:47pm
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WeiserGuy wrote:
I would've said NO until I listened to Reed on the DMXS radio show last week. Chad said he's had talks and is interested to committing...
I would've said NO until I listened to Reed on the DMXS radio show last week. Chad said he's had talks and is interested to committing to a full season in the GPs before he retires. Claimed he would love to show his children the world and it would be full circle for him and Ellie. I'd love to see it and it would be a great addition to Chad's book.
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Now that would be cool. Chad has got the chops to go there next year and give it a go. Sign me up for another year!
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Reed finished 11th in the Nats last year behind Noren. Will he be battling AC, Nagl, Desalle and possibly Herlings for wins? Highly doubtful. I'm a...
Reed finished 11th in the Nats last year behind Noren. Will he be battling AC, Nagl, Desalle and possibly Herlings for wins? Highly doubtful. I'm a fan of Reed and what he's accomplished in his career, but doing the GPs at this point in his career seems like a publicity stunt more than anything. Is a team willing to give Reed a ride and full effort so his family can see the world?
I didn't take it to seriously, and just figured he was just stirring the pot. That said, it was straight from the horse's mouth and he sounded serious.
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willie838 3/30/2015 10:13pm
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doubtful.

money
travel
culture shock

guys grow up their whole lives dreaming of topping the box in sx or mx.


to alter that dream and shoot to europe to conquer something that young mx racers don't even really think about is a long shot.

i have to imagine that there is definitely some pull from the top of FIM to get another superstar over there as soon as possible though---they've got to be ecstatic that americans are really watching it this year.
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RV doing it might spur some more interest than there would be otherwise but I believe it will take a unique situation like RV's to make it happen.

RV was over putting in the work and going on the grind of SX/MX. I'm not sure he looked at the GP's as much of a challenge as just something to try and see what happens. IMO if he was going to MXGP to win and no other result was acceptable, he would've been in Aldon's training camp in November. Not saying he's out of shape, I just don't think he was gonna go the same route as when he raced in the states that made him an animal.
mattktmhall 3/31/2015 12:48am
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Would anyone fancy the challenge after seeing the guy that beat them week in week out by 30+ seconds for years struggling and getting beat by people they've never heard of.....

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At least one American would surely be better off in Europe. I say this because some riders are better mx riders than sx and therefore would have a better shot at championship or to be in top 5. I know there is the Nationals but first you got to make it through the supercross rounds and then start testing for mx where you might get 2 weeks to get your bike dialed.

The other reason is the schedule. Some riders will do really well racing nearly 29 weeks in a row and some may burn out.

I think there are now two legitimate options, for those who do switch, this would not be a one year gig but a career crossroads.
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It will be interesting to hear what RV says about this experience when all is said and done. I would have to think other top U.S...
It will be interesting to hear what RV says about this experience when all is said and done. I would have to think other top U.S. guys are taking notice, and perhaps they might one day feel the same way RV did and look to MXGP a for a fresh change and challenge to the grind of the schedule stateside. Outside of the shit venue of Thailand, the MXGP a scene is not only cool but full of world class athletes. Putting the collective distain for Luongo aside, do the odds increase of more US guys jumping ship the other way?
I hope so. Hopefully the overdue exposure the GP series is getting in the USA because RV is riding has meant the other top US riders will now see how cool the World Championship is and that it isn't a step down. It is just another big prestigious title for a US rider to win for himself and his country. And he gets paid to see the world while he does it.

Maybe now young US riders will grow up wanting to be World Champion as well as SX and MX champ in the US. Especially when you have your whole country behind you wanting you to win for the USA against the world - it can't get better than that surely.

That's what GP racing is all about and maybe now the US fans and riders alike are understanding that.

But it will take equal exposure on the GPs in the US media for that to happen to in the long term.
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mccread 3/31/2015 4:45am
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WeiserGuy wrote:
I would've said NO until I listened to Reed on the DMXS radio show last week. Chad said he's had talks and is interested to committing...
I would've said NO until I listened to Reed on the DMXS radio show last week. Chad said he's had talks and is interested to committing to a full season in the GPs before he retires. Claimed he would love to show his children the world and it would be full circle for him and Ellie. I'd love to see it and it would be a great addition to Chad's book.
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Now that would be cool. Chad has got the chops to go there next year and give it a go. Sign me up for another year!
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Reed finished 11th in the Nats last year behind Noren. Will he be battling AC, Nagl, Desalle and possibly Herlings for wins? Highly doubtful. I'm a...
Reed finished 11th in the Nats last year behind Noren. Will he be battling AC, Nagl, Desalle and possibly Herlings for wins? Highly doubtful. I'm a fan of Reed and what he's accomplished in his career, but doing the GPs at this point in his career seems like a publicity stunt more than anything. Is a team willing to give Reed a ride and full effort so his family can see the world?
I agree to an extent, but in the USA all the guys have SX as the no.1 priority whereas in GPs MX is all they prepare for |(also why RV is finding the depth tougher than AMA).

But if Chad did decide to do the World Championship he would have four months instead of 2 weeks to get ready for motocross again. That would make a big difference and with his talent and experience of GPs, while I'm I don't think he would win a title, he should be decent. It was only two years ago he was leading the AMA and he has never been healthy since for outdoors.
St Ann More 3/31/2015 4:56am
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I'd like to see JS or RD do it...
I think RD would be really good! Yeah, he's had his ass handed to him in recent MXdN's but i think with time to prepare, his mentality and way he rides, he'd be a favourite. Can't see it happening but hey ho, never saw RV actually coming over.
mattktmhall 3/31/2015 5:04am
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agreed In my opinion dungey would be better than RV his style suits the gp tracks better. Covington seems to be doing ok what was he like over in America because decotis sucked when he came over here
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I don't see why anyone would want to considering all the inconviences compared yo racing here.
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Whoever goes over will need to commit to several years to adjust and adapt. No rider can come or go and win the first year. Covington and Zach are classic examples of the need for a year or two to adjust. Of course this goes both ways...as Kenny and Marvin discovered.
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G-man 3/31/2015 9:55am
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I was wondering the same thing while watching this race.

Last year was the first year I was able to watch on the boob tube and really dig how they open the show by showing the location on the global map and local cultures and scenery. Very cool. Smile

My hope is other riders interest level goes up and they too carry the flag across the pond to represent.

Major props and a tip of the visor go to RV and his HUGE commitment while still in the peak of his career.
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WeiserGuy wrote:
I would've said NO until I listened to Reed on the DMXS radio show last week. Chad said he's had talks and is interested to committing...
I would've said NO until I listened to Reed on the DMXS radio show last week. Chad said he's had talks and is interested to committing to a full season in the GPs before he retires. Claimed he would love to show his children the world and it would be full circle for him and Ellie. I'd love to see it and it would be a great addition to Chad's book.
bents wrote:
Now that would be cool. Chad has got the chops to go there next year and give it a go. Sign me up for another year!
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Reed finished 11th in the Nats last year behind Noren. Will he be battling AC, Nagl, Desalle and possibly Herlings for wins? Highly doubtful. I'm a...
Reed finished 11th in the Nats last year behind Noren. Will he be battling AC, Nagl, Desalle and possibly Herlings for wins? Highly doubtful. I'm a fan of Reed and what he's accomplished in his career, but doing the GPs at this point in his career seems like a publicity stunt more than anything. Is a team willing to give Reed a ride and full effort so his family can see the world?
While I agree that that it would be challenging for Reed to run at the front (but not impossible), his potential participation would be far from a publicity stunt as I don't believe Reed to be that kind of rider/person. As a rider he might be over the whole sx/mx combo and might want to just concentrate on one discipline to finish up an amazing career. He needs to be on a bike he likes obviously and last year he was injured and on a bike he did not like.

I would not count the guy out just yet. When he puts his mind to it he is still a bad dude.
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Flip109 wrote:
I think Dungey would be good. He's won pretty much everything here anyway. Plus he's still young enough to be competitive for a few years there.
I feel this way too, plus he's on KTM's team which would probably make it easier for him to do it.

I also wonder if Decoster has any inclination to head back to Belgium after he's done. Be kinda cool to see him back involved in a MXGP effort even if in a limited fashion. Be kinda like going full circle for him in his career.
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I think it would be awesome if more top US riders gave it a shot. I don't see them jumping in though till they are at the later part of their career, like RV is doing right before retiring. It seems to me that too much money would be left on the table if they were to jump ship on the cash cow US program.

What would be cool to see is if a manufacturer like Honda put together a contract together for Tomac to race 2-4 years more in the US, and then at least 1 year in the MXGP's on a red bike.
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Zracer 3/31/2015 4:44pm
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I think that the only big name rider that may consider it would be Stewart. Id like to see that.

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