Works Exemption Rule - Husky?

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Are they using it? I've heard they are & are not. Question is, is it only for one model? If they are using it, does it apply to the 250 & 450, or just one?
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It only applies to Japanese models I believe if I remember correctly.
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Woodracer wrote:
It only applies to Japanese models I believe if I remember correctly.
Uhhhh no. Every Mfg. has a one year exemption. Since that rule was made Husky hasn't competed so they still have their exemption for any bike they choose to race. They could use it next year as well if they wanted. If I were to guess we'll probably see it come into play a few years down the line as they try to differentiate themselves from KTM.
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Woodracer wrote:
It only applies to Japanese models I believe if I remember correctly.
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Uhhhh no. Every Mfg. has a one year exemption. Since that rule was made Husky hasn't competed so they still have their exemption for any bike...
Uhhhh no. Every Mfg. has a one year exemption. Since that rule was made Husky hasn't competed so they still have their exemption for any bike they choose to race. They could use it next year as well if they wanted. If I were to guess we'll probably see it come into play a few years down the line as they try to differentiate themselves from KTM.
I think Anderson's bike is using it this year, so he can get the benefits of the KTM 450FE. Don't think Husky has a FE model, so the works exemption would allow him to use it. But, wondering if it only applies to one model. Davalos, Bell, etc. are getting the shaft if they can't get the KTM 250FE.
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Woodracer wrote:
It only applies to Japanese models I believe if I remember correctly.
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Woodracer wrote:
It only applies to Japanese models I believe if I remember correctly.
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I think Anderson's bike is using it this year, so he can get the benefits of the KTM 450FE. Don't think Husky has a FE model...
I think Anderson's bike is using it this year, so he can get the benefits of the KTM 450FE. Don't think Husky has a FE model, so the works exemption would allow him to use it. But, wondering if it only applies to one model. Davalos, Bell, etc. are getting the shaft if they can't get the KTM 250FE.
I'm pretty sure he's not. You can tell by looking at the frame that Dunge and Anderson's bikes are different.
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I heard they are going to use their one year works exemption to run a proto type turbocharged engine.
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I think Anderson's bike is using it this year, so he can get the benefits of the KTM 450FE. Don't think Husky has a FE model...
I think Anderson's bike is using it this year, so he can get the benefits of the KTM 450FE. Don't think Husky has a FE model, so the works exemption would allow him to use it. But, wondering if it only applies to one model. Davalos, Bell, etc. are getting the shaft if they can't get the KTM 250FE.
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I'm pretty sure he's not. You can tell by looking at the frame that Dunge and Anderson's bikes are different.
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I heard they're mounting phasers to RD's bike in the spring when it heats up a bit.
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Moto75 wrote:
Are they using it? I've heard they are & are not. Question is, is it only for one model? If they are using it, does it...
Are they using it? I've heard they are & are not. Question is, is it only for one model? If they are using it, does it apply to the 250 & 450, or just one?
Every year AMA publishes their homologated bike list, along with any "exemptions". this isn't a mystery.
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Moto75 wrote:
Are they using it? I've heard they are & are not. Question is, is it only for one model? If they are using it, does it...
Are they using it? I've heard they are & are not. Question is, is it only for one model? If they are using it, does it apply to the 250 & 450, or just one?
Katoomey wrote:
Every year AMA publishes their homologated bike list, along with any "exemptions". this isn't a mystery.
Homologated list = easy to find. Exemption list, not so much.
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Woodracer wrote:
It only applies to Japanese models I believe if I remember correctly.
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Woodracer wrote:
It only applies to Japanese models I believe if I remember correctly.
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Take one look at his monkey avatar and we should have know , he is probably still in high school.
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jonesaustin 2/24/2015 9:40pm
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Husky has been hiring i'd guess, poaching from the main Japanese engineers and bringing in European designers. expect a radical new Husqvarna in 2018. the Euro brands are doing something! the others, aside from Honda and Yamaha which do some, are leading the way and they'll start selling the most dirt bikes when it's all over.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ yep that is what it looks like to me.
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Moto75 wrote:
Are they using it? I've heard they are & are not. Question is, is it only for one model? If they are using it, does it...
Are they using it? I've heard they are & are not. Question is, is it only for one model? If they are using it, does it apply to the 250 & 450, or just one?
Katoomey wrote:
Every year AMA publishes their homologated bike list, along with any "exemptions". this isn't a mystery.
Moto75 wrote:
Homologated list = easy to find. Exemption list, not so much.
exactly how many exemptions do you think there has been in the last 17 years? cause I only know of 2

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CASH476 2/25/2015 12:49am
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jonesaustin wrote:
Husky has been hiring i'd guess, poaching from the main Japanese engineers and bringing in European designers. expect a radical new Husqvarna in 2018. the Euro...
Husky has been hiring i'd guess, poaching from the main Japanese engineers and bringing in European designers. expect a radical new Husqvarna in 2018. the Euro brands are doing something! the others, aside from Honda and Yamaha which do some, are leading the way and they'll start selling the most dirt bikes when it's all over.
I am not sure what Husky have planned but until now there have been a few innovations from the others.

Suzuki was first with Fuel injection.
Kawasaki with twin injectors on the 250F, Adjustable foot pegs on the 450.
Aluminium frames,SFF forks and various different air forks on all the Japanese brands.
Changeable engine mapping on all brands.
steering damper & twin exhaust on the Hondas.
Yamaha has completely changed up their design.

Whether these are all successful or not, I would say all the brands are doing something, maybe not everyone notices
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Moto75 2/25/2015 6:20am
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Katoomey wrote:
Every year AMA publishes their homologated bike list, along with any "exemptions". this isn't a mystery.
Moto75 wrote:
Homologated list = easy to find. Exemption list, not so much.
Katoomey wrote:
exactly how many exemptions do you think there has been in the last 17 years? cause I only know of 2
You only know of two? Should be very easy for you, because: "Every year AMA publishes their homologated bike list, along with any "exemptions". this isn't a mystery."
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Henry-Yamaha

Smail-KTM

???
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So Jason is riding Dungeys bike from last year?

The bike that isnt as good as this years KTM?
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CASH476 wrote:
I am not sure what Husky have planned but until now there have been a few innovations from the others. Suzuki was first with Fuel injection...
I am not sure what Husky have planned but until now there have been a few innovations from the others.

Suzuki was first with Fuel injection.
Kawasaki with twin injectors on the 250F, Adjustable foot pegs on the 450.
Aluminium frames,SFF forks and various different air forks on all the Japanese brands.
Changeable engine mapping on all brands.
steering damper & twin exhaust on the Hondas.
Yamaha has completely changed up their design.

Whether these are all successful or not, I would say all the brands are doing something, maybe not everyone notices
aluminum perimeter frames and single function forks are cost cutting measures and only innovative in dropping their bottom line, not performance. EFI could also be lumped into this category as the technology has existed for 35 years. Yamaha is the only one truly pushing any sort of innovative envelope.

That's the difference between Europe and Japan at the moment in 2015, and for the last 7-8 years. Europe's innovations are centered around what Japan's production philosophy was in the 60s/70s (limited production, provide the best product possible)

Japan's innovations at the present moment seem to be centered around cost-savings and weathering the storm of a shitty global economy.

I wish all you old faithfuls would get off the Japanese bandwagon and see that they've become parasitic in nature and have done more to hurt this sport as a whole than help it, in the last 15 years.
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Loud OEM and aftermarket exhuast have done their fair share to hurt the sport. Reviews of bikes should exclude any bike over 94db. Of course the cops look the other way when a child abuser 106db harley goes blowing up a city street. I guess the cops think damaging kids hearing is cool.
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slipdog wrote:
Henry-Yamaha

Smail-KTM

???
Smail - KTM 1997
Henry - Yamaha 1998
Hughes - Honda 2001 or 2002 (crf 450)

As far as I know Kawasaki and Suzuki haven't used theirs yet.
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endurox wrote:
Loud OEM and aftermarket exhuast have done their fair share to hurt the sport. Reviews of bikes should exclude any bike over 94db. Of course the...
Loud OEM and aftermarket exhuast have done their fair share to hurt the sport. Reviews of bikes should exclude any bike over 94db. Of course the cops look the other way when a child abuser 106db harley goes blowing up a city street. I guess the cops think damaging kids hearing is cool.
Loud pipes save lives. Any street bike I ever own will be as loud as I can get it, as well as have as bright of lights as I can get. I'm going to give drivers every possible opportunity to know that I am there as I can. Your annoyance isn't as important as my life.
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husqvarnaUSA 2/25/2015 2:33pm
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Woodracer wrote:
It only applies to Japanese models I believe if I remember correctly.
haha!
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slipdog wrote:
Henry-Yamaha

Smail-KTM

???
krooner33 wrote:
Smail - KTM 1997 Henry - Yamaha 1998 Hughes - Honda 2001 or 2002 (crf 450) As far as I know Kawasaki and Suzuki haven't used...
Smail - KTM 1997
Henry - Yamaha 1998
Hughes - Honda 2001 or 2002 (crf 450)

As far as I know Kawasaki and Suzuki haven't used theirs yet.
Suzuki used theirs the first year RC was on the 450
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endurox wrote:
Loud OEM and aftermarket exhuast have done their fair share to hurt the sport. Reviews of bikes should exclude any bike over 94db. Of course the...
Loud OEM and aftermarket exhuast have done their fair share to hurt the sport. Reviews of bikes should exclude any bike over 94db. Of course the cops look the other way when a child abuser 106db harley goes blowing up a city street. I guess the cops think damaging kids hearing is cool.
Skippie wrote:
Loud pipes save lives. Any street bike I ever own will be as loud as I can get it, as well as have as bright of...
Loud pipes save lives. Any street bike I ever own will be as loud as I can get it, as well as have as bright of lights as I can get. I'm going to give drivers every possible opportunity to know that I am there as I can. Your annoyance isn't as important as my life.
I guess you ride solo then? We had a few guys with stupid loud bikes riding with us, and we send their dumbasses to the back of the line.

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