Anyone on the fence about returning to racing MX?

The Rock
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Edited Date/Time 2/11/2015 10:45pm
If there is anyone what are the factors you are weighing before becoming a racer again? Cost, risk of injury, lack of riding buddy, time invested vs actual seat time etc.
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Yep, after my last race back in 1990ish I've just bought a 79 RM250 to race vintage. I've been riding 37 yrs so I'm not to worried so much about injury, cost or maintaining the bike but cardio fitness. I'm ride fit but not race fit.
Looking forward to plenty of laughs.
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I don't bounce any more.
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The Rock wrote:
If there is anyone what are the factors you are weighing before becoming a racer again? Cost, risk of injury, lack of riding buddy, time invested...
If there is anyone what are the factors you are weighing before becoming a racer again? Cost, risk of injury, lack of riding buddy, time invested vs actual seat time etc.
Here is the reason i left riding and decided to do downhill mountain biking instead. I sure as hell miss it!

1. Cost: 3k for a bike, £1000 a year approx for spares and parts and repairs and maintenance, £1000 a year approx for new helmet, boots etc.
2. Injury, i have had 2 ACL reconstructions on my left knee. The thought of having to go through a gruelling 8 month rehab again puts me off slightly. My knee doesn't feel like it'll ever be 100% again.
3. When we were in our mid to late teens, there was a group of 8 best buds who used to all ride together, now only 2 of them have bikes.
4. I work approx 60 hours a week and only get 5 hours off on a saturday and sunday off, which means every single minute of free time i have would be spent around the bike with no time to socialize or do anything else.
5. I hate having an awsome days riding, and then knowing i still have an hour of faffing round washing bikes, doing general maintenance and running 4 trips of 200m to the garage to put everything away, then all the air filter etc needs doing.

The annoying factor is that the session you have on your bike feels so good and is so addictive that it almost outweighs all the above.

However since starting downhill mountain biking i seem to have filled a void, as an overall sport it's brilliant. takes 5 mins to get ready and 10 mins to unpack when home, quick squirt of chain lube and your good to go, i'm lucky living in the Shropshire / North Wales border theres is an abundance of trials.
My favourite type of riding is uplifts as its most similar to mx, £25-30 get you uplifts to the top of the mountain all day and then gravity is your engine.
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2/11/2015 2:55am
Time is my contributing factor. Not enough of it. I built a track at my old house, then moved back into my childhood home on 85 acres where I'm clearing some overgrowth to build a new all natural terrain track kind of like a mini Unadilla. I enjoy going out to ride, but don't have the time to put in to get fit. At 48 I feel old, but on the bike I feel 18 again.......for a lap or two, then I lose feeling in my hands from arm pump. Guess I need more seat time. I still have decent speed for the amount of time I took off the bike (10+ years), but I still would love to go to the track and enter the vet class just to see what would happen. I don't really worry about getting hurt, but I have two businesses to run and can't afford to. Who knows, more seat time and conditioning, and hiring another guy to ease the work load and maybe, just maybe.Smile

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2/11/2015 3:33am
I was.

Motocross was my entire life from the early 70's, my family owned a Kawasaki dealership for a short period of time, then in the mid 80's I decided to become a rock star. That didn't work out so well so I decided to become a dad. That was the best, my boys had interests and hobbies that didn't involve motorcycles.

The friend I sold my last bike to still rides. He inspired me to think about it. I got prepared, saved enough money for a decent bike and gear, etc. I started working out. I changed my life so I could ride again.

I suppose there are other ways to have a mid life crisis...hookers, blow, hot tubs, Corvettes, etc. I am so alive right now. I have an expensive hobby that has gotten me hurt, drained my savings and strained my relationships.

Get physically fit first. Seat time will make all the difference but to recover from the inevitable boo boo you need to have your body ready first. MAKE time to ride. If you have too many other things in your life (hookers, blow, golf, etc) you need to moderate and adjust. Have fun. Driving to the track, cleaning the bike, talking to race track people, reading magazines, watching Supercross, explaining casts and scars, spending money on colored metal parts, etc.

Do it. Do it now! What are you waiting for?
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Been riding again for 2 yrs after not even throwing a leg over a bike for 10. My speed and body is about as good as it's gonna get a 31 yrs old but I just can pull the trigger to get behind a gate. My son being 7 now races and i think that's some of the factor between working on 50's between motos and the stress of the racing scene with a child I think holds me back from lining up. Not to mention the risk factor and having to go to work on Monday. Just joy riding on the weekends I feel has less of a risk because I don't push my self. Once a person gets be hind a gate I think that all goes out the window and the adrenaline comes in so I'm afraid of hiring myself. Yes there is a serial in just practicing and ride I know that.
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Wahtash wrote:
I was. Motocross was my entire life from the early 70's, my family owned a Kawasaki dealership for a short period of time, then in the...
I was.

Motocross was my entire life from the early 70's, my family owned a Kawasaki dealership for a short period of time, then in the mid 80's I decided to become a rock star. That didn't work out so well so I decided to become a dad. That was the best, my boys had interests and hobbies that didn't involve motorcycles.

The friend I sold my last bike to still rides. He inspired me to think about it. I got prepared, saved enough money for a decent bike and gear, etc. I started working out. I changed my life so I could ride again.

I suppose there are other ways to have a mid life crisis...hookers, blow, hot tubs, Corvettes, etc. I am so alive right now. I have an expensive hobby that has gotten me hurt, drained my savings and strained my relationships.

Get physically fit first. Seat time will make all the difference but to recover from the inevitable boo boo you need to have your body ready first. MAKE time to ride. If you have too many other things in your life (hookers, blow, golf, etc) you need to moderate and adjust. Have fun. Driving to the track, cleaning the bike, talking to race track people, reading magazines, watching Supercross, explaining casts and scars, spending money on colored metal parts, etc.

Do it. Do it now! What are you waiting for?
Great post.

Makes me think about the struggles I face racing as a 30 something guy with a family and what not. I consider quitting on a regular basis. I just can't bring myself to do it. It's a lifestyle.
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for me its about putting yourself out there and having fun with your life... there is little enough joy as it is , but unless you have something to live for , you are just passing time doing stuff till you cant do anything any more.

I don't do stick and ball sports , cos that's just fake, its euphoria by association , you didn't win anything , some random guys did while you watched it on TV , or sat in the stands eating a hot dog.

Do Something.. and enjoy it for what it is , a chance to not be who you have to be every day , but the chance to be the same guy that everyone else is when they pull on a helmet... a racer... if you suck , it doesn't matter , as long as you can race with a guy who sucks the same amount.
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The race bug never goes away. Hell my Dad is 73 and his eyes still light up just talking about going to the races. I stopped racing in 2008 because of neck issues and the cost involved. After getting my neck fixed I couldn't wait to ride again. But, the good thing about being 45 is you don't care what other people think. I restored an old CR250 and working out / riding again. Cant wait to sign up for the vet class on my old smoker!

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I thought about it. Even bought a bike. Then realized that being self employed with no health insurance is not the best scenario to be racing motorcycles. Plus, I've got two young boys and my oldest is now at the age where he's playing sports and we have games and practices week nights and weekends. And I'm sure I'll get laughed at for this comment, but I actually really enjoy spending time with my wife so being gone all weekend isn't too appealing either.
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2/11/2015 5:45am Edited Date/Time 2/11/2015 5:52am
Rooster wrote:
I don't bounce any more.
Laughing Laughing That's at the top of my list too!

Seriously though, I've had to come to the conclusion that my life is way too busy, and my responsibilities to my job & family have to take top priority, plus the injuries that forced me to stop racing at a younger age would still hold me back. I still love to ride when I can, but I know racing is not in the cards for me any more. I'll just love the sport from a distance.
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I never quit. MX is the only thing that keeps me sane.
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that bounce may have left my body also, but the thrill of a gate drop and intensity of railing an inside or outside rut for some passes hasn't....jumping over somebody's head certainly has!

My only concern with still racing at 57 is getting enough track time. Private tracks are currently all that we have in my area today and although I'm over travel I certainly will put some social and epic events on my calendar.
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53 years old, On May 11,2014, I broke my collar bone in 2 places, seven broken ribs, and a punctured lung. April 11 2015 I'll be on the gate at Echo Valley, not sure if I'll be racing or riding.
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2/11/2015 6:33am Edited Date/Time 2/11/2015 6:46am
The Rock wrote:
If there is anyone what are the factors you are weighing before becoming a racer again? Cost, risk of injury, lack of riding buddy, time invested...
If there is anyone what are the factors you are weighing before becoming a racer again? Cost, risk of injury, lack of riding buddy, time invested vs actual seat time etc.
I'm on the fence about quitting. I'm 43, I have two sons that raced through out the 2000's off and on. I always had dirt bikes growing up. I never owned race bikes nor rode an mx track till maybe 2005. I enjoy it so much and I know at 43 my clock is ticking on my riding time.

In august of this year some kid swapped out in front of me during one of those combined classes on race day. I had nowhere to go. I hit his bike and over the bars I went. I had two broken ribs (right under my arm pit) broken right arm (i'm right handed) and a small laceration of my spleen. I was out of work until Nov. 24th. No big deal, and I enjoyed the time off work. Well I go back to work and work almost a month. During this down time I totally rebuilt my 2007 CRF 250 (cylinder works 270cc) with brand new head and valve train.

So on December 21st I went riding for the first time since the August 10th wreck. My oldest son, my grandson and myself went. That's an awesome day for a dad/granddad. Anyway, other than a warm up in the yard my bike was cranked and ridden for the first time. I was able to put 1.5 hours of riding time on the bike that day. Toward the very end of the day there was only two people on the whole track (I'm not making this up to add to the story) I'm coming up on him and he's obviously slower. We are doing a series of three small doubles in a row. He's in the middle slightly to the right side of the jumps, I'm far left side. we had done the first two jumps, he's still slightly ahead. I planned on finishing that double and passing him in the turn right after the last double. Well I guess like some new riders do, he slams on brakes right before the jump take off on the third and final double and veers sharply to the left (into my line). Well I tried to stop but it was too late. I slam into him and veer into a dirt wall on the side of the track. The dude claims he was just trying to get out of my way. The old "hold your own line does not apply here.

This wreck was a lot worse. It shatter my pelvis on the left side, broke a right sided rib and ruptured my bladder and a foot peg impaled my left inner thigh. I was taken to a level 1 trauma center where I stayed from Dec 21st thru Dec. 28th. So now I'm basically stuck in a chair for 12 weeks (non weight bearing left side). But now I have developed nerve damage to my left foot that is slap driving me infuckingsane!! None of the damn meds are working. We're waiting on a call to try and have a nerve block done.

I know this is long but I wanted you to see why I am struggling with this decision so much. I bought my grandson a new dirt bike for Christmas (a cobra) and the poor fellow has yet to ride it due to paw paw being down and out. This past fall when my arm was broken my grandson and I went racing EVERY weekend. That was some of the best times I have ever had. He raced his CRF50 in the entry class. We rode a lot of sand tracks in our series and when my little fellow would fall I was able to run around all over the place and keep him going (I may be 43 but I could still outrun every dad in our little series and they were all younger) Now I'm left with a 50/50 chance that I will have a limp the rest of my life and he pretty much said I'll probably never run again (we shall see about that one). So you see the dilemma I'm left with. I love riding but I love helping my grandson more and watching him improve. So, if any of you guys are looking for an 07 CRF250 that's been totally redone with all kinds of extras(complete Barnett racing setup, fluidyne oversized radiators with oil cooler setup in radiators) and bunch more mods let me know!!! $2250 gets the bike.

I guess I really need to answer the question. My poor wife needs to have neck surgery and now she is getting injections in her neck so she can keep working cause I'm laid up in a recliner. My reasoning is the injuries and I think the love of helping my grandson outweighs my love of racing. I may try trails someday, who knows. lol
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I'll be 63 in April, have a new 2015.5 KTM FE coming...do I want to race - hmm internal argument with myself daily. The quick answer is absolutely the intelligent answer is nope. So somewhere there is a balance I’m looking for.
What I dislike is:
• The sudden stop when you make the inevitable error or two.
• 3 laps of insane practice
• 4 to 6 laps of racing then the fgrn wait for the next moto
• Cost per lap

Track days and free riding is more what I prefer, however places to free ride are getting harder to find.
Track days are great however my skills are way better than a beginner as good as an intermediate just not as fast or as ballsy and definitely not as good as a Pro – so what group to you go out with!!!

The one thing I know for sure is that I need my fix
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2/11/2015 6:51am Edited Date/Time 2/11/2015 6:55am
I raced for almost 15 years (I'm 51 now). I'm blessed to be walking after some of the falls I've taken. I've broken my back twice, and have a myriad of aching joints that compel me to make involuntary noises when I go from a seated to standing position. I don't feel have anything to prove to myself, or anyone else anymore. It took me a while to get to that place, and I almost quit a few years ago when it simply wasn't fun if I couldn't ride as fast as I felt like I should be riding. Now, I just ride practice days, and I love it. I can pull off the track when I feel like it, I don't have to huck the big jump everyone is doing just to stay competitive, and I can ride all day, as long as I want, not just the two moto's I would have done otherwise. We'll go out and do 15 minutes, and come back to the truck and bullshit about it for 30 minutes, then we'll go do it again.

I still compete in mountain bike racing (XC) from time-to-time, and I battle with the guys in my road bike club every week, so I guess you could say that I've found an outlet for my (very) competitive nature. I have found my happy place, and I've learned to simply enjoy riding again. I did a one-off race back in September, but it was on a "GP" sand track with no stupid jumps. I did the 40+ with some friends of mine and we had a ball. Can't wait to do it again this year. I won't lie, I missed being around it (the racing scene), but I don't miss enough to jump back into it full-bore. I'll do a couple of races a year, and they'll be of my choosing, on tracks that I feel comfortable riding. Bottom line: I'm riding in my comfort zone from here on out, and I'm 100% okay with that.
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Tim507 wrote:
I'll be 63 in April, have a new 2015.5 KTM FE coming...do I want to race - hmm internal argument with myself daily. The quick answer...
I'll be 63 in April, have a new 2015.5 KTM FE coming...do I want to race - hmm internal argument with myself daily. The quick answer is absolutely the intelligent answer is nope. So somewhere there is a balance I’m looking for.
What I dislike is:
• The sudden stop when you make the inevitable error or two.
• 3 laps of insane practice
• 4 to 6 laps of racing then the fgrn wait for the next moto
• Cost per lap

Track days and free riding is more what I prefer, however places to free ride are getting harder to find.
Track days are great however my skills are way better than a beginner as good as an intermediate just not as fast or as ballsy and definitely not as good as a Pro – so what group to you go out with!!!

The one thing I know for sure is that I need my fix
Sounds about the same for me Tim.
But I still like to make a half dozen events a year, only because I'm over dicing for the lead. I actually prefer being in the mix and chasing the leaders (other has-beens!) around in the best seat in the house.
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I had a pretty big get off in April '93. broke 9 ribs, smashed T-7 and 8, and displaced a disc at L-4. I was at the peak physically and was double classing (125/250 pro) . I rode and raced for a while after healing from that up until about '97 and just got tired of being hurt and all that. I got into micro sprints and was successful for years in those, then switched to full size sprint cars in 2003. I still own a sprint car but now I have a driver that does that part for me. I am old and fat (45 today in fact) I have attended a couple SX races in seattle but haven't been to a local MX in 15 years I would say. Have went riding maybe twice in since '97 and I would say at times I miss it because MX is so pure and simple. Sprint cars are all about the money and horsepower so any rich guy can go get a car and then just run all over anyone they wish. Thats the hard part I deal with every year.
I still watch the nationals and supercrosses religiously and of course Vital... but I would say I am over riding anymore.
2/11/2015 7:27am


Ive been goin nonstop since 21. 42 now and like camP says it keeps me sane. Heck now with the kid out on his own my racing budget tripled! Last weekend we went south to practice and he even left me in front for a bit but I know hes way faster now then I will ever be again. I think barring severe injury I will race till my body wont let me anymore. It truly is a lifestyle for me.
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rodspindel wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/02/11/79913/s1200_KENH3698_S.jpg[/img] Ive been goin nonstop since 21. 42 now and like camP says it keeps me sane. Heck now with the kid out on his own...


Ive been goin nonstop since 21. 42 now and like camP says it keeps me sane. Heck now with the kid out on his own my racing budget tripled! Last weekend we went south to practice and he even left me in front for a bit but I know hes way faster now then I will ever be again. I think barring severe injury I will race till my body wont let me anymore. It truly is a lifestyle for me.
I was at Dawson's Saturday too riding my CR250 (extremely slow). You guys were ripping those Husky's.
2/11/2015 7:41am
I miss riding, and I'll ride again, but there are a lot of things I don't miss about racing (like getting up at 5 am on a Sunday, racing all day in the mud, then spending hours cleaning everything).
Racing is going to be tough with a new daughter, aging body, and many other financial commitments. I think I'll just focus on riding for fun like when I was 12 and that's all I cared about.
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rodspindel wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/02/11/79913/s1200_KENH3698_S.jpg[/img] Ive been goin nonstop since 21. 42 now and like camP says it keeps me sane. Heck now with the kid out on his own...


Ive been goin nonstop since 21. 42 now and like camP says it keeps me sane. Heck now with the kid out on his own my racing budget tripled! Last weekend we went south to practice and he even left me in front for a bit but I know hes way faster now then I will ever be again. I think barring severe injury I will race till my body wont let me anymore. It truly is a lifestyle for me.
awesome pic! is that you and your son?
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For me i had no choice... Riding off road motorcyles was my first and greatest love... I Have to ride to stay sane....
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Wahtash wrote:
I was. Motocross was my entire life from the early 70's, my family owned a Kawasaki dealership for a short period of time, then in the...
I was.

Motocross was my entire life from the early 70's, my family owned a Kawasaki dealership for a short period of time, then in the mid 80's I decided to become a rock star. That didn't work out so well so I decided to become a dad. That was the best, my boys had interests and hobbies that didn't involve motorcycles.

The friend I sold my last bike to still rides. He inspired me to think about it. I got prepared, saved enough money for a decent bike and gear, etc. I started working out. I changed my life so I could ride again.

I suppose there are other ways to have a mid life crisis...hookers, blow, hot tubs, Corvettes, etc. I am so alive right now. I have an expensive hobby that has gotten me hurt, drained my savings and strained my relationships.

Get physically fit first. Seat time will make all the difference but to recover from the inevitable boo boo you need to have your body ready first. MAKE time to ride. If you have too many other things in your life (hookers, blow, golf, etc) you need to moderate and adjust. Have fun. Driving to the track, cleaning the bike, talking to race track people, reading magazines, watching Supercross, explaining casts and scars, spending money on colored metal parts, etc.

Do it. Do it now! What are you waiting for?
That's awesome. Smile
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2/11/2015 8:13am
I am done racing due to "Injuries R Us"...52 and feeling pain from those injuries everyday now. I really miss racing, great times!!!
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2/11/2015 8:16am
I got hurt bad in 05' and was never going to ride again. But the word " never " doesn't really mean much to me because I got back into it in 2011. The goal was to just play ride , hit practice days and so forth......just have fun riding with my buddies.

The goal last spring was to actually do a few races , but another injury took me out almost the entire summer....then the weather got bad....so basically 2014 was a total wash. This year though.....I'm coming in fit ( weight room fit ) which helps start the process of being " Rider / racer fit ".

Yep....I plan on doing some racing this year for sure.
2/11/2015 8:19am
Thanks darryl! It was our first time there and 1st time on the bikes in exactly 3 months. Pa weather sucks! And yeah thats me and my youngest son Hvaughn. Hes 18 now and living on his own. He was just playin with me but when we go at it I feel 18 too!
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It's been several years since I last raced and I really have no interest on returning. A groomed track for a practice day would still be an option, but the best thing now is going out with buddies on long trail rides for free. It beats paying money to sit around for a majority of the day between rides.

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