Thoughts on ATV's racing Daytona?

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HenryA 2/7/2015 5:50am
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Thought that this thread would deliver but it's just a bunch of butthurt quad riders in here Huh
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TanHner36 2/7/2015 6:34am
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I posted the lap times because someone asked for that picture and I remembered where I saw it so I screen grabbed it. The quad times on the left are Chade Wienen and Joel Hetrick and the lap time on left is KR in first and Tomac in second I believe.
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Markee wrote:
Get out of here with that shit. The track development through out the event is nothing like a motorcycle. Quads turn the turns into a freeway...
Get out of here with that shit. The track development through out the event is nothing like a motorcycle. Quads turn the turns into a freeway.

https://youtu.be/z_AyreSAv00?t=1m6s

http://youtu.be/z_AyreSAv00?t=1m6s
lol that video is a bunch of overweight local goons. My buddy who works for Racer X does filming on the side and made this of an actual Pro National at Red Bud.
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You're not going to connivence me of nothing with 1. Techno 2. 4-strokes 3. Quads... these are my least favorite things. lol

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NV825 wrote:
$20,000 for that? Dude there's a handful that can be found for way cheaper here that are just as good:

http://atvconnection.com/forums/classifieds-garage-sale-swap-shop/
Haha I like what you did there NV825.

But no joke, guys that build these things know how much money goes into building one. Not talking buying a bike n piecing together. here is a quick list of just few parts..

Chassis- $5000
A-arms with TI bolts$1000
Swing arm with TI swinger bolt $1000
Suspension- $3-3500
Plastics- $500
Stem- $250
Motor- $1000 to buy about $2,000 into rebuild (ALL new internals)
Axle-$400
Nerf bars $400


Now still gotta buy seat n pan, exhaust, front spindles brake rotors and cailbers, rear cailbers and rotor, master cylinders,all brake lines, levers, bars, clamps, bars, kill cord, bumper n grab bar, axle lock nut, bearing carrier, grips, graphics, seat cover, radiator and lines, and sure list goes on.

Just think what it would be like to build a dirt bike from frame up without even having a bike to start with. Every nut n bolt needs to be bought or made. yea, it can be overwhelming to a point. But love em or hate em.. a fully build custom race bike is basically like a "WORKS" bike of the 80's n 90's.
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Quads race on Tuesday? Now that's hilarious!

Keep it up, quads...
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dehner47 wrote:
Haha I like what you did there NV825. But no joke, guys that build these things know how much money goes into building one. Not talking...
Haha I like what you did there NV825.

But no joke, guys that build these things know how much money goes into building one. Not talking buying a bike n piecing together. here is a quick list of just few parts..

Chassis- $5000
A-arms with TI bolts$1000
Swing arm with TI swinger bolt $1000
Suspension- $3-3500
Plastics- $500
Stem- $250
Motor- $1000 to buy about $2,000 into rebuild (ALL new internals)
Axle-$400
Nerf bars $400


Now still gotta buy seat n pan, exhaust, front spindles brake rotors and cailbers, rear cailbers and rotor, master cylinders,all brake lines, levers, bars, clamps, bars, kill cord, bumper n grab bar, axle lock nut, bearing carrier, grips, graphics, seat cover, radiator and lines, and sure list goes on.

Just think what it would be like to build a dirt bike from frame up without even having a bike to start with. Every nut n bolt needs to be bought or made. yea, it can be overwhelming to a point. But love em or hate em.. a fully build custom race bike is basically like a "WORKS" bike of the 80's n 90's.
Dont waste your time try to explain anything to these goobers. Might as well try to get Rain Man to shop at Walmart and watch Judge Judy.
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Chris Borich (GNCC Champ) comes to our local harescramble every year. That guy is out of his mind fast in the woods, and he is usually just cruising because of his minute + lead.

Quads are still gay
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A thread dedicated to coming out of the closet, how nice... Dry
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Zracer wrote:
Dont waste your time try to explain anything to these goobers. Might as well try to get Rain Man to shop at Walmart and watch Judge...
Dont waste your time try to explain anything to these goobers. Might as well try to get Rain Man to shop at Walmart and watch Judge Judy.
Oh yea. Forgot what site I was on!
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lol that video is a bunch of overweight local goons. My buddy who works for Racer X does filming on the side and made this of...
lol that video is a bunch of overweight local goons. My buddy who works for Racer X does filming on the side and made this of an actual Pro National at Red Bud.
Where is the 25,000 spectators?
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Can we let the "oh they ruin the tracks" thing go? Let's just say we aren't overly enthused when we come at a jump face and...
Can we let the "oh they ruin the tracks" thing go? Let's just say we aren't overly enthused when we come at a jump face and there's 15 ruts up it, quads like to go sideways and when they do it usually involves us being run over by them. The thing that aggravates me is that people talk about "Real" Moto, the days of Bailey, Johnson, Decoster, Hannah etc. When you watch vids from back then, there's dust and blue groove everywhere, yet you didn't hear them bitching and moaning about it, they just rode their 500cc death traps for 30 minutes, then had a smoke drank a beer and stole your girl while you stood there in awe.


I remember when I first started, we had an ATV only series, eventually the economy went for a shit and we had to move back with the bikes. That's how it's been ever since. We aren't happy about it and the bike guys aren't thrilled either, but there have been a few events that would have been cancelled without us and without the bikes we couldn't race. Entries are down guys, we all need to set aside our differences and keep the sport alive at the grassroots level,
No we won't let the "oh they ruin the tracks" thing go. Where I come from we have motocross tracks for dirt bikes. Then one day somebody thought it would be a good idea to let the fat pig known as a quad ride and race to make more money. So, nobody cares if the quad guys don't like what the bikes do to the track. If you don't like it, open a quad track where they outweigh the number of bikes 20:1. Wink
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Look who's racing

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We already knew he was gay though!! ^^^^ Woohoo
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NorcalVet wrote:
Look who's racing [img]http://auto.img.v4.skyrock.net/3370/82063370/pics/3141013048_1_6_4dBttlzG.jpg[/img]
Look who's racing

Wow, you have a picture like that saved on your computer?
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Flex wrote:
Here is a video of one of Vital MXs own, Ben Hodgson, at Montreal SX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pd5MfRLLgo And here is another video of Atv SX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_RbijGOUGc I'm...
Here is a video of one of Vital MXs own, Ben Hodgson, at Montreal SX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pd5MfRLLgo

And here is another video of Atv SX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_RbijGOUGc

I'm a bike guy, never got into quads, but damn it is impressive seeing how they can throw a quad around a SX track. Now obviously not nearly as fast as bikes but it seems a lot more difficult for a quad on these tight tracks (lots of crashes it seems). Daytona SX with quads would be cool to watch.
Now that is what I would call a one lined track. That track is way too skinny.
Maverick313 2/7/2015 12:33pm
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dehner47 wrote:
Haha I like what you did there NV825. But no joke, guys that build these things know how much money goes into building one. Not talking...
Haha I like what you did there NV825.

But no joke, guys that build these things know how much money goes into building one. Not talking buying a bike n piecing together. here is a quick list of just few parts..

Chassis- $5000
A-arms with TI bolts$1000
Swing arm with TI swinger bolt $1000
Suspension- $3-3500
Plastics- $500
Stem- $250
Motor- $1000 to buy about $2,000 into rebuild (ALL new internals)
Axle-$400
Nerf bars $400


Now still gotta buy seat n pan, exhaust, front spindles brake rotors and cailbers, rear cailbers and rotor, master cylinders,all brake lines, levers, bars, clamps, bars, kill cord, bumper n grab bar, axle lock nut, bearing carrier, grips, graphics, seat cover, radiator and lines, and sure list goes on.

Just think what it would be like to build a dirt bike from frame up without even having a bike to start with. Every nut n bolt needs to be bought or made. yea, it can be overwhelming to a point. But love em or hate em.. a fully build custom race bike is basically like a "WORKS" bike of the 80's n 90's.
That's probably why their aren't more atv mxers, who could afford to race that. Just look what four stroke bikes did to local events.
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That's probably why their aren't more atv mxers, who could afford to race that. Just look what four stroke bikes did to local events.
Not all mx quads cost that much. Just like bikes, you can find sick mx quads for well under $10k.

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TanHner36 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/02/07/79557/s1200_image.jpg[/img] Lap times at Red Bud. I've raced Red Bud and even if you haven't you can see how insanely rough it gets. Track deterioration may...


Lap times at Red Bud. I've raced Red Bud and even if you haven't you can see how insanely rough it gets. Track deterioration may be slightly different but I've seen it after bikes and after quads and both are brutal.
Quads get the track on tuesday after everyone went home.

http://atvmotocross.com/event/daytona-atv-supercross
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dehner47 wrote:
Haha I like what you did there NV825. But no joke, guys that build these things know how much money goes into building one. Not talking...
Haha I like what you did there NV825.

But no joke, guys that build these things know how much money goes into building one. Not talking buying a bike n piecing together. here is a quick list of just few parts..

Chassis- $5000
A-arms with TI bolts$1000
Swing arm with TI swinger bolt $1000
Suspension- $3-3500
Plastics- $500
Stem- $250
Motor- $1000 to buy about $2,000 into rebuild (ALL new internals)
Axle-$400
Nerf bars $400


Now still gotta buy seat n pan, exhaust, front spindles brake rotors and cailbers, rear cailbers and rotor, master cylinders,all brake lines, levers, bars, clamps, bars, kill cord, bumper n grab bar, axle lock nut, bearing carrier, grips, graphics, seat cover, radiator and lines, and sure list goes on.

Just think what it would be like to build a dirt bike from frame up without even having a bike to start with. Every nut n bolt needs to be bought or made. yea, it can be overwhelming to a point. But love em or hate em.. a fully build custom race bike is basically like a "WORKS" bike of the 80's n 90's.
Glad someone caught my joke Grinning

I have no issue with quad riders as long as they're riding on a different day than bikes when it comes to tracks. Seeing that I don't ride tracks anymore and just enjoy the trails, they are a rare occurrence due to their width when it comes to single track.
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NorcalVet wrote:
Look who's racing [img]http://auto.img.v4.skyrock.net/3370/82063370/pics/3141013048_1_6_4dBttlzG.jpg[/img]
Look who's racing

Flex wrote:
Wow, you have a picture like that saved on your computer?
You don't have to have a pic saved to post it. Are you new to computers?Laughing
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our local series let's ATV's race the same days as the bikes. doesn't really bother me on race days, especially if it's muddy lol they'll throw the quads out there for 30 minutes or so and clear the mud for the bikes.

only time it ever bothered me is when they are on the track on regular practice days. it's always sketchy as fuck trying to pass a Joey on a quad that's going marginally slower than everyone else. i mainly ride offroad, so the track sucking isn't new to me.

i will say the dudes at the top of the ATV-MX sport are badasses at what they do.
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Totally non moto
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What's the difference between quads going out and destroying the berms and ruts and having a bobcat go out and do the same thing between heats?

Ever since they started grooming Daytona during race day and dropping the lap times to fit the TV schedule, it's become just another cookie cutter SX. Too bad, it used to be something really special.
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NorcalVet wrote:
Look who's racing [img]http://auto.img.v4.skyrock.net/3370/82063370/pics/3141013048_1_6_4dBttlzG.jpg[/img]
Look who's racing

Flex wrote:
Wow, you have a picture like that saved on your computer?
ChrisB10 wrote:
You don't have to have a pic saved to post it. Are you new to computers?Laughing
I know, but he did not embed the link. He uploaded it.

So, are you new to computers?
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Flex wrote:
Wow, you have a picture like that saved on your computer?
ChrisB10 wrote:
You don't have to have a pic saved to post it. Are you new to computers?Laughing
Flex wrote:
I know, but he did not embed the link. He uploaded it.

So, are you new to computers?
a lot of sites won't let you hot-link pictures (aka embed), i've experienced it more than once.

still, downloading a Beiber picture should be grounds for at least a week ban, two weeks because there's a quad in it

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I don't wanna offend anyone but whenever I saw quads racing on the same track as I was going to be racing on I got sick from the thought of our worked in lines that they destroy in a lap. i remember racing at glen Helen and they sometimes put us the moto after quads and id go out there to a track that sucked.
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ChrisB10 wrote:
You don't have to have a pic saved to post it. Are you new to computers?Laughing
Flex wrote:
I know, but he did not embed the link. He uploaded it.

So, are you new to computers?
peelout wrote:
a lot of sites won't let you hot-link pictures (aka embed), i've experienced it more than once. still, downloading a Beiber picture should be grounds for...
a lot of sites won't let you hot-link pictures (aka embed), i've experienced it more than once.

still, downloading a Beiber picture should be grounds for at least a week ban, two weeks because there's a quad in it

My point is that guy actually downloaded a picture of bieber on a quad

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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