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But I guess with any drug testing policy the goal posts are constantly moving, and at least they say they consider each case individually.
No, I didn't tell you I had the penalty structure, how could I? All any of us can do is look at the rules that exist, and try and stick to them.
AMA rules-
4.5 Substance Abuse Policy
a. 450SX and 250SX class.
1. The 450SX and 250SX class riders will follow the terms and
conditions of the FIM Anti Doping Code.
b. AMA Officials and Crew credential holders.
1. AMA Officials and crew credential holders will follow the
terms and conditions of the AMA Substance Abuse Policy.
c. Random tests for drugs and alcohol may be conducted at the
discretion of AMA the FIM or their respective drug-testing
partners.
d. Compliance with the FIM Anti-Doping Code or AMA's
Substance Abuse Policy is an essential precondition to the
issuance of a Professional Competition license or event
credential.
e. Any violation of the policy or refusal to submit to testing as
requested by AMA, the FIM or their respective drug-testing
partners may result in the immediate suspension of the
competitor’s license and loss of all rights to compete in AMA
Professional, AMA Amateur sanctioned events, or FIM
sanctioned events.
f. Both the AMA Substance Abuse Policy and the FIM Anti
Doping Code are available upon request from the AMA office.
FIM rule book for a first offence
And if you can't prove the above conditions its a 2 yr ban for a first offence.
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If only an organization existed that had done that before.... Wait, the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, MLS, Cricket.
If the AMA/FIM simply had it in writing that the first failed drug test is x amount of races, it's fair for everyone and we don't have these things linger over the sports head forever. You need something more concrete then, "We might ban you for two years, who knows."
If this is not a good sign that the AMA/FIM has failed this sport, I don't know what is.
They didn't even understand they should put a camera on the finish line in case a race was really close for fucks sake...
It says, "depending on the person, we might just slap you on the wrist, or we might banish you for two years."
Make it fair and say regardless, a first offense is X amount of time.
You clearly indicated that if I took the time to read the rule book, all that I need to know would be there for me to read. Well I read it and still no answers? So why not just admit that you are wrong in this instance...and ask yourself what would be good for our sport, a sport with rules, but dont apply to all riders in certain conditions based on fan base or royalties or pure discretion. Or a sport that has rules that have parameters and procedures that need to be followed per disciplinary actions, no matter the sanctioning bodies, persons or investigative actions that all persons racing will fall under the same penalty no matter the circumstances. An appeals process can insure that said rider will have his time to speak, however till that time of appeals (which also should have a time frame associated with it) a disciplinary action has been enforced.
Nfl 4 games no pay
Mlb 25 games no pay
Nba 5 games no pay
Track and field is 6 months of sanctioned racing
See a trend here...not sports league is over a complete season and all are clear as day on the infraction and disciplinary action.
Keep in mind those are for basic ped, growth hormones afe much harsher in discipline...mandatory 2 year ban from track and field
All major sports leagues also have harsher penalties plus fines for growth hormones and steroid use. Plus WADA is pushing for double penalty time for growth hormone/steroid usage which shows how much more the drug is looked at.
you should be happy that every case is different and that there isn't a set punishment. you guys kept bringing up cold medicine and other shit, would it be fair if something traced from cold medicine was the same penalty as finding an obvious PED in someone's system?
you guys can go on and on about how long it's taken, but i look at it as it is a very complex issue with Stewart and his prescription and the lack of a TUE, all avenues need to be exhausted before handing down a fine. obviously they're looking into WHY Stewart never had a TUE, how long his prescription has been in effect, and other things.
carry on.
what if the processing time and subsequent punishment (which RaceX is reporting MAY affect James' ourdoor national eligibility) are all part of a grand scheme by the FIM and Luongo (and mxgeoff, what the heck, I'll throw him in there too) to back James into a corner wherein his only option is to race GPs in 2015?
Uuaaaaaaaaahahahahaha.........!!!!!!
(obviously I'm joking and yes, Peelout always brings it!)
Exactly!
At the end of the day this is what testing brings to our sport, so yes if you want testing then certain cold medicines should also be classified as a ped as its on the Wada list.
This is what appeals process is for, then they can make a decision on what the final ruling should be after everythiing is brought into the equation. With a set timeline in place a proper process and written procedures that takes precedence above all else.
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4.5 Substance Abuse Policy
a. 450SX and 250SX class.
1. The 450SX and 250SX class riders will follow the terms and
conditions of the FIM Anti Doping Code.
b. AMA Officials and Crew credential holders.
1. AMA Officials and crew credential holders will follow the
terms and conditions of the AMA Substance Abuse Policy.
c. Random tests for drugs and alcohol may be conducted at the
discretion of AMA the FIM or their respective drug-testing
partners.
Wow, sure hope they don't test the crew members.. I would predict mass job openings.
Who wouldnt want to see more of this
They really should have their own drug testing policies, rules, etc and that would rlimunste tge cold medication problem. I don't know of many others that even test for that.
But.
This seribg how it's run by the circus and ran like a circus, maybe it's time we stop calling it professional.
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