Van or Truck - Which is Best and Why?

ridge
Posts
2394
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Apple Valley, CA, USA
10/11/2014 9:41am
4x4 van for the win




For those that say it can't be a daily driver...it's got a shorter wheelbase than a crew cab pick-up (which makes it easier to maneuver in parking lots).

And it tows just fine.




Ashleymx
Posts
694
Joined
8/12/2008
Location
Cumming, GA, USA
10/11/2014 9:58am Edited Date/Time 10/11/2014 7:38pm
Owned lots of Toyota Hiace vans in Australia over the years but I've got an F250 truck here in the USA. Seemed cool at the time because a truck like this is very rare in Australia and cost up around $60 000 - $80 000 for an old one lol. After a few years that novelty has worn off though and I reckon I'll get a Van again even though I love my truck. I mostly MTB now and if I have a dirt bike or MTB in the back of my truck it sux I cant stop anywhere on my way out or home! If I had a Van I could go into a store etc. A Van is best too so all your junk can be locked away while your doing laps at the track. You cant really throw your gas can, tools, stand, spare parts etc in the cab.
Ashleymx
Posts
694
Joined
8/12/2008
Location
Cumming, GA, USA
10/11/2014 10:10am
My Last Hiace. Turbo Diesel with the mandatory lowered suspension and big wheels lol

10/11/2014 10:47am
Ashleymx, that thing is awesome! Do you have any pictures of the inside?

The Shop

HazemG
Posts
545
Joined
9/24/2013
Location
LA, CA, USA
10/11/2014 11:10am
Ashleymx wrote:
My Last Hiace. Turbo Diesel with the mandatory lowered suspension and big wheels lol [img]https://a4-images.myspacecdn.com/images03/7/ab4d229a1fed4cd6b018e363a2cd971b/full.jpg[/img]
My Last Hiace. Turbo Diesel with the mandatory lowered suspension and big wheels lol

Woohoo So sick
FWYT
Posts
3553
Joined
5/25/2014
Location
San Diego, CA, USA
10/11/2014 11:17am
I wish these were just a leeeeetle bit bigger. I'd figure out how to start importing them.
38mpg FTW



ridge
Posts
2394
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Apple Valley, CA, USA
10/11/2014 12:27pm
FWYT wrote:
I wish these were just a leeeeetle bit bigger. I'd figure out how to start importing them. 38mpg FTW [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/10/11/67334/s1200_10th_generation_Suzuki_Carry_Van.jpg[/img]
I wish these were just a leeeeetle bit bigger. I'd figure out how to start importing them.
38mpg FTW



Chip, I saw that old Ford van you posted earlier...this was mine a few years ago.

bama205
Posts
1519
Joined
10/7/2010
Location
Williamson County, TN, USA
10/11/2014 5:48pm
Box truck
Ashleymx
Posts
694
Joined
8/12/2008
Location
Cumming, GA, USA
10/11/2014 7:37pm
Ashleymx, that thing is awesome! Do you have any pictures of the inside?
Nothing cool on the inside of that one. I just carpeted the floor with marine carpet. Older ones I owned had a bed, bike tie down points, lined walls, subwoofer box etc. You can get 4 bikes in them. 3 together, one in pieces. We did that many times driving across the country lol
mx_563
Posts
2197
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
USA
10/11/2014 7:42pm Edited Date/Time 10/11/2014 7:43pm
Truck:



Van:



Box Van:



Box truck??? Unsure




I'm thinking a box van is better than a box truck.

roost251
Posts
501
Joined
3/15/2009
Location
Valentine, AZ, USA
10/11/2014 8:58pm
Ashleymx wrote:
My Last Hiace. Turbo Diesel with the mandatory lowered suspension and big wheels lol [img]https://a4-images.myspacecdn.com/images03/7/ab4d229a1fed4cd6b018e363a2cd971b/full.jpg[/img]
My Last Hiace. Turbo Diesel with the mandatory lowered suspension and big wheels lol

Wish we had something like that here!! Making small steps in small vans with the ford transit style now here. Nissan is now selling their large van/truck thing. But they dont look as nice and I bet ran as well as your toyota did.

I have a 2005 MB sprinter van,medium wheelbase with the tall roof. I love it,
FreshTopEnd
Posts
13248
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Sacramento, CA, USA
10/11/2014 9:24pm
mx757 wrote:
The only really bad thing about a van, is that most of them get horrible gas mileage because theyre shaped like a shoebox, heavy, and have...
The only really bad thing about a van, is that most of them get horrible gas mileage because theyre shaped like a shoebox, heavy, and have big gas guzzling motors. For a day at the races, I would prefer throwing the bike, a toolbox, gearbag, and a cooler in the bed of the truck than a van set up.
motokiwi wrote:
Over here in New Zealand vans are popular with the moto crowd. Also over here every gas station has a diesel pump, so these bad boys...
Over here in New Zealand vans are popular with the moto crowd.
Also over here every gas station has a diesel pump, so these bad boys run on diesel and get excellent gas mileage.

Yeah, but you kiwis oughta redo the Great Yellow Dirt Bike Truck dealio with the Falcon lol, don't see them here

lemewinks
Posts
56
Joined
3/16/2012
Location
Council Bluffs, IA, USA
10/12/2014 7:31am
lemewinks wrote:
I say van. My everyday driver and doesn't get any worse gas mileage than a full size pickup.[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/10/10/67281/s1200_327.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/10/10/67282/s1200_332.jpg[/img]
I say van. My everyday driver and doesn't get any worse gas mileage than a full size pickup.



sesker15 wrote:
What size rims and tire? looks good!
20". tires are 285/50... I'll have to get some pics of the inside its pretty sick
sesker15
Posts
1054
Joined
4/14/2008
Location
Upper Marlboro, MD, USA
10/12/2014 6:08pm
lemewinks wrote:
20". tires are 285/50... I'll have to get some pics of the inside its pretty sick
Would love to see some pictures of the inside.
Greg726
Posts
27
Joined
12/8/2009
Location
Kennewick, WA, USA
10/13/2014 7:40am
I had a 04 ford extended cargo van for years and decided to sell it for a truck. One of the worst decisions i have made. I pull a 6 x 12 cargo trailer behind the truck, it works but i miss the van. Here are some pics of the van and the trailer. I think my next moto rig is going to be a fun mover.












lemewinks
Posts
56
Joined
3/16/2012
Location
Council Bluffs, IA, USA
10/13/2014 1:36pm
lemewinks wrote:
20". tires are 285/50... I'll have to get some pics of the inside its pretty sick
sesker15 wrote:
Would love to see some pictures of the inside.
got a few but it was a crappy day so not the best.









I just picked this up at the local junk yard for $50 it folds out into a bed, just need to clean and install

I also have a power inverter installed and outlets ran in the back, a 2 gallon air compressor and a separate battery to run it, I just need to finish it up.

JeepnMike
Posts
2525
Joined
10/18/2012
Location
Enumclaw, WA, USA
10/14/2014 6:33am
Sheriff245 wrote:
Actually I fit your description but I don't think I'm nuts. I have two kids myself. You just have to think outside the box here. I...
Actually I fit your description but I don't think I'm nuts. I have two kids myself. You just have to think outside the box here. I got a passenger van, and kept the first bench seat in front of the partition, which I carpeted. It's no less convenient than a crew cab truck. The grocery bags can either go between the bucket seats, or in the cargo area in the back. Besides, my wife loves being able to walk between the seats to check on the baby in the back seat.


Apologies for the late response, I had the family at the ocean for a long weekend. That is pretty cool though dude - very creative and well done. Proof there is two ways to skin that cat!
Darryl916
Posts
1252
Joined
12/19/2013
Location
Budds Creek, MD, USA
10/14/2014 7:38am
Truck and trailer for me. I daily drive my pickup and it saves me having to pay for, maintain, insure, tag/title, fuel, etc. another vehicle. I toss the bike on the back for the local day trip stuff. Take the trailer for the longer trips, races in bad weather, over-nights, etc. With the trailer I carry my own water supply for the pressure washer and will eventually put cabinets up front for my tools and such. It's secure and I don't have to smell anything. Future plan is to pull the trailer with a RV for father weekend trips/races for more of a family experience.






Here is when I first brought it and painted the floor and walls. No cabinets or shelves YET.



Bike on the back of the truck for local practice.



I put a hitch on the back of my tractor so I can drop the trailer out front of my house and jockey it into a tight parking spot out of the way with ease.



endurox
Posts
2092
Joined
3/22/2014
Location
Garden City, ID, USA
10/14/2014 8:08am Edited Date/Time 10/14/2014 8:09am
Van and trailer. So bikes in the van and if riding out of town you got the shower,bath, stove and fridge with you.

CarlinoJoeVideo
Posts
7517
Joined
11/30/2013
Location
Portland/Los Angeles, CA, USA
10/14/2014 8:25am
I personally need 4x4 truck for winter time. I found these guys in So cal who make shells in any size you want. So I can...
I personally need 4x4 truck for winter time. I found these guys in So cal who make shells in any size you want. So I can keep things enclosed and safe in the summer then pull it off when I don't need it.



mx_563 wrote:
Can you be more specific? Who are "these guys"?
They are near Disneyland http://www.belairshells.com
motoracer633
Posts
427
Joined
11/14/2011
Location
North Charleston, SC, USA
10/14/2014 8:42am
99 ford e150 w 4.6L. great van 18mpg, have had a few, would like a chevy just because they look cooler and handle a little better. Fords have been pretty good to me though.
shanes
Posts
578
Joined
3/4/2014
Location
AD
10/14/2014 8:57am
FWYT wrote:
I wish these were just a leeeeetle bit bigger. I'd figure out how to start importing them. 38mpg FTW [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/10/11/67334/s1200_10th_generation_Suzuki_Carry_Van.jpg[/img]
I wish these were just a leeeeetle bit bigger. I'd figure out how to start importing them.
38mpg FTW



can get 2 bikes in mine easy





but needed new seats as standard where crap
WEBB918
Posts
3
Joined
4/14/2014
Location
Maple Park, IL, USA
11/11/2014 5:36pm
How do you guys tie youre bikes down in the vans?
FGR01
Posts
6107
Joined
10/1/2006
Location
USA
Fantasy
11/11/2014 6:43pm
WEBB918 wrote:
How do you guys tie youre bikes down in the vans?
In a bare cargo van, the inner body walls are loaded with all kinds of holes and places to hook tie downs. Or you can drill the floor and mount tie down points.
11/12/2014 1:30am
WEBB918 wrote:
How do you guys tie youre bikes down in the vans?
FGR01 wrote:
In a bare cargo van, the inner body walls are loaded with all kinds of holes and places to hook tie downs. Or you can drill...
In a bare cargo van, the inner body walls are loaded with all kinds of holes and places to hook tie downs. Or you can drill the floor and mount tie down points.
ob
Posts
1751
Joined
3/14/2010
Location
Cardiff, CA, USA
11/12/2014 11:13am


Love my van.
MCarter
Posts
9
Joined
4/28/2014
Location
Dieterich, IL, USA
11/12/2014 1:44pm
We have done both. I like the truck & trailer approach because you can haul everything. All tools, parts, extras (pressure washer, tire changing stand, etc) and as many bikes as you want to bring. If you have living quarters you can stretch out and relax between races, grab a beverage from the fridge, etc, which is nice. You also have a clean restroom (unless you choose to live like a pig, but that's on you). If you have a good 4 wheel drive you get in and out of any track almost regardless of conditions. Parking and drive through access is a different story.

The down side is the need to for extra insurance on the trailer, extra wheel bearings and brakes to maintain, you have to continuously clean it, the pains of getting in and out of certain fuel stations and even getting through some towns, extra tires to buy and maintain, just for a few. And of course, if you have living quarters in it, it's tough to use one for a week without something important breaking. Then up north the need for winter preparation. You need to either get a nice diesel (with that expense and potential complications - we chose Duramax) or work a gas motor to death through the mountains and hills. If your tow vehicle breaks your friends can come hitch up to the trailer, which is nice, however, you'll probably pay an extra fee to have both truck and trailer towed to repair shop, which wasn't so nice for us in Arkansa five years ago.

My racer and his mechanic recently talked me into a van purchase. We purchased a Ford Transport mid height roof with long wheelbase. After installing a wall we have room for three 250f bikes, a pressure washer, some tires gear bags and fuel. We had cabinets installed so we have several feet of spare part storage right above the bike's front wheels. We put a 60 gallon aluminum water tank under a rear seat in front of the partition wall. The van drinks regular gas, gets 19 mpg on the highway and zips through traffic like a car. Parking isn't an issue. Going through a drive through is easy. Creature comforts like refrigerator and toilet aren't present. Most vans are helpless in the mud, or even wet grass on a slight grade. Going to a hotel at night for a nice long hot shower can be priceless. Meals out can seem so. If your van breaks your bikes are securely in it, but you have to have a buddy with empty space to get them to the track.

There's only one insurance payment. The tires are less expensive than a Duramax and we aren't working them that hard.

So, as with most important decisions there isn't a right or wrong answer, just advantages and trade offs that seem more or less important depending on circumstances like weather, temperature, distance travelled, traffic, etc. In the end, for us, we were keeping a truck/trailer for one week at LLs, one at the Mini Os, maybe two more at the spring nationals, and then dragging it all over for qualifiers and regionals. In the end, even with need to pay for hotels, etc., the van will actually be more economical for use throughout the year. And since we paid for an extra warranty, anything that happens in the five years is covered, so no more worrying about when and if a ten year old diesel gives out. Either choice will work. Having done both, I think that for most people (with one or two racers), most of the time, the van is the better choice.
Rdubs19
Posts
767
Joined
4/16/2014
Location
Little Rock, AR, USA
11/12/2014 2:40pm
Truck, because you aren't going to pick up chicks in a van (legally). The exception is if you can snag a Woody Wagon.
action fab
Posts
1
Joined
9/26/2015
Location
Mount Ida, AR, USA
9/26/2015 4:12pm
I'm going to combine both for the best of both worlds. I have a 97 F250 crew cab with the 7.3 powerstroke diesel. I'm going to find a 16' ford box van with a blow engine or other mechanical issues to use as my donor. The plan I'd to stretch the F250 frame. Add the box (I'm going to find one with a loft) then add the dually rear axle and front hubs to convert my truck to dual rear wheel.

What I'd be left with is a crew cab diesel box van that will serve as a camper/tow rig for my jeep when we go Rock Crawling and a motovan big enough for 4 bikes and 4 riders when we go to races.

First picture is of my truck. Other two are for reference of what the box configuration will be like. I thought I had a E450 box van located but they won't sell the box with the truck. So the hunt goes on... this is my winter project after I heal from my shoulder surgery.







Post a reply to: Van or Truck - Which is Best and Why?

The Latest