RV racing GP's will not change anything.

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The GP's will not suddenly gain market share in the USA and the places that have low attendance in GP's will still be low.

Sure 1-2K more of us will tune in , that's it.

Also Dude lets not forget RV hasn't even lined up there yet.
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"Also Dude lets not forget RV hasn't even lined up there yet" Millsaps?
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RV is basically doing an outdoor only contract. I'm not sure how comparable his salary will be, but i.e. he will be working less hours in the year for the same or more money. Pretty smart, i wonder why more haven't decided to do it.
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I agree.
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burn1986 wrote:
RV is basically doing an outdoor only contract. I'm not sure how comparable his salary will be, but i.e. he will be working less hours in...
RV is basically doing an outdoor only contract. I'm not sure how comparable his salary will be, but i.e. he will be working less hours in the year for the same or more money. Pretty smart, i wonder why more haven't decided to do it.
Is that accurate? I was under the impression that this was part of fulfilling his current contract, and supercross wasn't even an option due to the knee injury. So I don't know that an hours-to-hours work comparison would be accurate, if that's the case. Someone with more knowledge than me feel free to come in and correct/set me straight.

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RV is basically doing an outdoor only contract. I'm not sure how comparable his salary will be, but i.e. he will be working less hours in...
RV is basically doing an outdoor only contract. I'm not sure how comparable his salary will be, but i.e. he will be working less hours in the year for the same or more money. Pretty smart, i wonder why more haven't decided to do it.
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Is that accurate? I was under the impression that this was part of fulfilling his current contract, and supercross wasn't even an option due to the...
Is that accurate? I was under the impression that this was part of fulfilling his current contract, and supercross wasn't even an option due to the knee injury. So I don't know that an hours-to-hours work comparison would be accurate, if that's the case. Someone with more knowledge than me feel free to come in and correct/set me straight.
YeahI'm still looking over his contracts '14 and '15, as well as my comparison study. Once I crunch the numbers I'll get back to you. Wink
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500guy wrote:
The GP's will not suddenly gain market share in the USA and the places that have low attendance in GP's will still be low. Sure 1-2K...
The GP's will not suddenly gain market share in the USA and the places that have low attendance in GP's will still be low.

Sure 1-2K more of us will tune in , that's it.

Also Dude lets not forget RV hasn't even lined up there yet.
Agreed.

And I think its safe to say that RV is certainly one of the fastest guys out there, but he does not have the type of personality that draws in fans, such as McGrath, Kdub or others who helped to fill seats and sell tickets.
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burn1986 wrote:
RV is basically doing an outdoor only contract. I'm not sure how comparable his salary will be, but i.e. he will be working less hours in...
RV is basically doing an outdoor only contract. I'm not sure how comparable his salary will be, but i.e. he will be working less hours in the year for the same or more money. Pretty smart, i wonder why more haven't decided to do it.
hvaughn88 wrote:
Is that accurate? I was under the impression that this was part of fulfilling his current contract, and supercross wasn't even an option due to the...
Is that accurate? I was under the impression that this was part of fulfilling his current contract, and supercross wasn't even an option due to the knee injury. So I don't know that an hours-to-hours work comparison would be accurate, if that's the case. Someone with more knowledge than me feel free to come in and correct/set me straight.
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YeahI'm still looking over his contracts '14 and '15, as well as my comparison study. Once I crunch the numbers I'll get back to you. Wink
I'll have my secretary send over the particulars. We are a bunch of idiots, haha
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500guy wrote:
The GP's will not suddenly gain market share in the USA and the places that have low attendance in GP's will still be low. Sure 1-2K...
The GP's will not suddenly gain market share in the USA and the places that have low attendance in GP's will still be low.

Sure 1-2K more of us will tune in , that's it.

Also Dude lets not forget RV hasn't even lined up there yet.
Are you kidding ? They're selling luxury boxes in Qatar as we speak.
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I'm no RV fan, not a hater at all either, I believe he's one of the best to ever throw a leg over a SX or MX bike. To say he's not going to make that much of a difference in US market share....yeah, I don't see that, Im gonna say there will be a significant jump in both US and world viewership of the gp's.
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I'm no RV fan, not a hater at all either, I believe he's one of the best to ever throw a leg over a SX or...
I'm no RV fan, not a hater at all either, I believe he's one of the best to ever throw a leg over a SX or MX bike. To say he's not going to make that much of a difference in US market share....yeah, I don't see that, Im gonna say there will be a significant jump in both US and world viewership of the gp's.
i got to agree with you sully..if those in charge of marketing over there, will surely maximise RV's participation..RV will be representing, not only his US sponsors but the whole of America.
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500guy wrote:
The GP's will not suddenly gain market share in the USA and the places that have low attendance in GP's will still be low. Sure 1-2K...
The GP's will not suddenly gain market share in the USA and the places that have low attendance in GP's will still be low.

Sure 1-2K more of us will tune in , that's it.

Also Dude lets not forget RV hasn't even lined up there yet.
geeze dude, who pissed in your cheerios this week?
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500guy wrote:
The GP's will not suddenly gain market share in the USA and the places that have low attendance in GP's will still be low. Sure 1-2K...
The GP's will not suddenly gain market share in the USA and the places that have low attendance in GP's will still be low.

Sure 1-2K more of us will tune in , that's it.

Also Dude lets not forget RV hasn't even lined up there yet.
RV racing the GP's could certainly change the outlook of current top level riders over there..
At least it should.
Lined up or not, the bar is already raised.
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Sorry, Jay, but I beg to differ. Will there be more interest in the GPs on both sides of the pond with a top American champ racing? I'd say yes.
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Villopoto/Rattray 2015

I'm Ready for Ryan.
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GuyB wrote:
Sorry, Jay, but I beg to differ. Will there be more interest in the GPs on both sides of the pond with a top American champ...
Sorry, Jay, but I beg to differ. Will there be more interest in the GPs on both sides of the pond with a top American champ racing? I'd say yes.
More interest yes absolutely , I'm just pointing out that some seem to think it's another bid by Luongo to take over the Sport in America.
Multiple USGP's , USA riders flocking to race GP's and GP's doubling in attendance.

and Peely nobody pissed in my Cherios , it's just reality not some online fantasy.
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If you think this will only bring 1-2k more viewers you are huffing paint
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If you think this will only bring 1-2k more viewers you are huffing paint
Look at their Advertised attendance and viewer numbers and tell me again what you think.

There probably isn't even that many fans, that's what happens when you start out with a lie.
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GuyB wrote:
Sorry, Jay, but I beg to differ. Will there be more interest in the GPs on both sides of the pond with a top American champ...
Sorry, Jay, but I beg to differ. Will there be more interest in the GPs on both sides of the pond with a top American champ racing? I'd say yes.
more interest by who? A very small percentage of the people...


1. I have a friend that has gone to several SX and MX races. He watches them on TV too. I told him yesterday that RV was racing in Europe. He could care less. I'd consider him a normal fan...

2. I told my father that RV was going to Europe this year after winning 5 SX titles in a row. He said...maybe Jimmy Stewart will get to win now. He could care less. I'd consider him less than a normal fan...

3. I'll watch the GP if it's convenient. I won't go out of my way and sit in front of my computer to watch it on the weekends. If I can DVR it, I'll watch it midweek at night. I'd consider myself an above average fan...


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2WheelsForTheMasses 10/2/2014 12:44pm
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There are plenty of fans, and the fact Rv is gonna contest this says a lot to their market.

1-2k? Aye...dont be so isolated and get out more, there is a whole world out there away from your little bubble. There are a lot of moto fans out there, especially oversees. This might be a game changer and Rv might be helping in such a way that not only our sport will grow but suddenly more of our best riders will get on the world stage and contest the gp's
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more interest by who? A very small percentage of the people... 1. I have a friend that has gone to several SX and MX races. He...
more interest by who? A very small percentage of the people...


1. I have a friend that has gone to several SX and MX races. He watches them on TV too. I told him yesterday that RV was racing in Europe. He could care less. I'd consider him a normal fan...

2. I told my father that RV was going to Europe this year after winning 5 SX titles in a row. He said...maybe Jimmy Stewart will get to win now. He could care less. I'd consider him less than a normal fan...

3. I'll watch the GP if it's convenient. I won't go out of my way and sit in front of my computer to watch it on the weekends. If I can DVR it, I'll watch it midweek at night. I'd consider myself an above average fan...


Could care less means you could care less.

Couldn't care less means you couldn't care less.

I think I know which one you were trying to say, but you failed. Smile
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500guy wrote:
The GP's will not suddenly gain market share in the USA and the places that have low attendance in GP's will still be low. Sure 1-2K...
The GP's will not suddenly gain market share in the USA and the places that have low attendance in GP's will still be low.

Sure 1-2K more of us will tune in , that's it.

Also Dude lets not forget RV hasn't even lined up there yet.
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geeze dude, who pissed in your cheerios this week?
Didn't piss in them, just dropped the danglies in the milk 4 or 5 times.
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huck wrote:
more interest by who? A very small percentage of the people... 1. I have a friend that has gone to several SX and MX races. He...
more interest by who? A very small percentage of the people...


1. I have a friend that has gone to several SX and MX races. He watches them on TV too. I told him yesterday that RV was racing in Europe. He could care less. I'd consider him a normal fan...

2. I told my father that RV was going to Europe this year after winning 5 SX titles in a row. He said...maybe Jimmy Stewart will get to win now. He could care less. I'd consider him less than a normal fan...

3. I'll watch the GP if it's convenient. I won't go out of my way and sit in front of my computer to watch it on the weekends. If I can DVR it, I'll watch it midweek at night. I'd consider myself an above average fan...


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Could care less means you could care less. Couldn't care less means you couldn't care less. I think I know which one you were trying to...
Could care less means you could care less.

Couldn't care less means you couldn't care less.

I think I know which one you were trying to say, but you failed. Smile
I could care less if I failed.... Tongue
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There are plenty of fans, and the fact Rv is gonna contest this says a lot to their market. 1-2k? Aye...dont be so isolated and get...
There are plenty of fans, and the fact Rv is gonna contest this says a lot to their market.

1-2k? Aye...dont be so isolated and get out more, there is a whole world out there away from your little bubble. There are a lot of moto fans out there, especially oversees. This might be a game changer and Rv might be helping in such a way that not only our sport will grow but suddenly more of our best riders will get on the world stage and contest the gp's
agree..it's all about growth & exposure..
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GuyB wrote:
Sorry, Jay, but I beg to differ. Will there be more interest in the GPs on both sides of the pond with a top American champ...
Sorry, Jay, but I beg to differ. Will there be more interest in the GPs on both sides of the pond with a top American champ racing? I'd say yes.
It will for me. Ive never paid to watch any FIM GP's Ive even had a hard time watching their crap coverage on TV. Sounded like this was a 1 year deal and then he retires? Either way GO RYAN
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Does this mean when you take out Supercross, World Championship > US National Championship.

In my mind, this is definitely the case. Much more gruelling, different track types, faster riders.
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GuyB wrote:
Sorry, Jay, but I beg to differ. Will there be more interest in the GPs on both sides of the pond with a top American champ...
Sorry, Jay, but I beg to differ. Will there be more interest in the GPs on both sides of the pond with a top American champ racing? I'd say yes.
I agree, absolutely. I am suddenly a Ryan Villopoto fan, and that's a first. I think a lot of people who wouldn't turn off a checkers championship to watch a Grand Prix event in the past will be very interested to see what he can do over there. If he ends up beating Cairoli and the rest in a few events...be prepared for a gigantic upswing in interest.
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I know ill be visiting 3 more gps than last year just to watch RV in action think many more will either doubt loungo is arsed about people watching on the Internet that's pennies compared to a ticket for a gp
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GuyB wrote:
Sorry, Jay, but I beg to differ. Will there be more interest in the GPs on both sides of the pond with a top American champ...
Sorry, Jay, but I beg to differ. Will there be more interest in the GPs on both sides of the pond with a top American champ racing? I'd say yes.
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I agree, absolutely. I am suddenly a Ryan Villopoto fan, and that's a first. I think a lot of people who wouldn't turn off a checkers...
I agree, absolutely. I am suddenly a Ryan Villopoto fan, and that's a first. I think a lot of people who wouldn't turn off a checkers championship to watch a Grand Prix event in the past will be very interested to see what he can do over there. If he ends up beating Cairoli and the rest in a few events...be prepared for a gigantic upswing in interest.
I agree with these 2 guys. I am suddenly much more interested in learning who the top GP guys are now.
I, too, now am an RV fan. No doubt, I will make every effort to see these races, whereas before, I had little interest.
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I'll likely read about the results online. But I already did that anyway. I'm still 50/50 on whether or not this is a cash grab by Ryan. If he looks like he is in shape and means business I might let myself care more. For now, its a big wait and see.
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Mr. Info 10/2/2014 4:18pm
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You have to win races and lead the points before they hand you the plate. How many others have tried and failed. Just saying.

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