so what is a "low time bike"

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Lets narrow it down to 4 strokes owned my mere mortals , not pro raced bikes. My 13 YZ250F has 50 hours and seems as fresh as when I bought it new. Of course I maintain it well and it has new chain/sprockets, tires, grips etc. I also realize this bike is well known for its engine reliability. Hour wise, when should one think of replacing his bike before it gets really expensive i.e. motor rebuild.
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Dirty Mike 8/7/2014 9:14am
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Ride the piss out of it for a full year. Trade that bitch in and get a new. Repeat cycle
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white devil 8/7/2014 9:16am
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Dirty Mike wrote:
Ride the piss out of it for a full year. Trade that bitch in and get a new. Repeat cycle
The question was how many hours. Can you convert riding the piss out of it for a year to hours please?
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mx836 8/7/2014 9:19am
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My KX450 has 40 hours. It will be for sale before it hits 50.
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Dirty Mike 8/7/2014 9:23am
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white devil wrote:
The question was how many hours. Can you convert riding the piss out of it for a year to hours please?
Hahahaha sorry. I would say 50 hours is kind of a bench mark where you want to start to look at things. But if you know your going to trade it in, just keep riding the piss out of it until trade in day.

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crusher773 8/7/2014 9:25am
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You guys are nuts these bikes cost $9000! I have an '11 350SXF with about 75 on it and I've had no issues with it and don't intend on getting another one until a '17, '18 maybe even a '20. I'm a +30 guy though and I take care of it. Now you have a Yamaha and it being a 250F, yeah you might want to think about getting out of that thing. I don't know where you are getting that a Yamaha is reliable because the experiences I have had with them is that they are junk. All the Japanese stuff is.
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MxKing809 8/7/2014 9:26am
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I know you said 4 stroke only, but if my KTM 250 SX hits 100 on the bottom end it's up for sale before it hits 101
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crusher773 wrote:
You guys are nuts these bikes cost $9000! I have an '11 350SXF with about 75 on it and I've had no issues with it and...
You guys are nuts these bikes cost $9000! I have an '11 350SXF with about 75 on it and I've had no issues with it and don't intend on getting another one until a '17, '18 maybe even a '20. I'm a +30 guy though and I take care of it. Now you have a Yamaha and it being a 250F, yeah you might want to think about getting out of that thing. I don't know where you are getting that a Yamaha is reliable because the experiences I have had with them is that they are junk. All the Japanese stuff is.


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Dirty Mike wrote:
Ride the piss out of it for a full year. Trade that bitch in and get a new. Repeat cycle
And lose a couple grand every year doing it. Sounds good bro.
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Japanese stuff is awesome! Idk what you're talking about.... You thinking of cheap Chinese knock offs of the good Japanese stuff??
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Easier to spend the money on a new one than sink it into an old one that is going to be worth even less when you go to sell it. Depends how hard you are on equipment really. It's all relative to size and speed.
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Dirty Mike 8/7/2014 9:33am
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Dirty Mike wrote:
Ride the piss out of it for a full year. Trade that bitch in and get a new. Repeat cycle
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And lose a couple grand every year doing it. Sounds good bro.
What do you think it's going to cost to "freshen" up a 4-stroke. And if cost you 2 grand to have a new bike every year, I say do it. All of us here are not riding for free. Gotta spend a little to have fun
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I don't really understand the thought process here. It's not that expensive to stick in some new valves, have the seats ground, and rebuild the crank. Just follow the valve clearance, and when they start to go out get the head rebuilt. Trash a 2 stroke because it has 100 hours on the crank? Common, you can get the crank rebuilt for $185. Preventive maintenance is the key. You don't wait till it blows up to do something.
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newmann 8/7/2014 9:49am
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Going with the title of the thread, here is my offering. A 1978 works bike with no paint rubbed off the frame or engine.....Smile

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MxKing809 8/7/2014 9:51am
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steveada wrote:
I don't really understand the thought process here. It's not that expensive to stick in some new valves, have the seats ground, and rebuild the crank...
I don't really understand the thought process here. It's not that expensive to stick in some new valves, have the seats ground, and rebuild the crank. Just follow the valve clearance, and when they start to go out get the head rebuilt. Trash a 2 stroke because it has 100 hours on the crank? Common, you can get the crank rebuilt for $185. Preventive maintenance is the key. You don't wait till it blows up to do something.
They're never quite the same.... Call me crazy but rebuilt bottom ends seem to have more complications more often. I would rather not deal with it
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Zracer 8/7/2014 9:53am
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Wow , some of you dont ride much. I put about 30 hours a month on mine. So going by your math I should get a new bike every couple months. A 2011 with 75 hours? Thats devotion bro.
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Wow , some of you dont ride much. I put about 30 hours a month on mine. So going by your math I should get a...
Wow , some of you dont ride much. I put about 30 hours a month on mine. So going by your math I should get a new bike every couple months. A 2011 with 75 hours? Thats devotion bro.
How do you do that with a wife and kids and little league and soccer and balance two jobs all at the same time? And how many years have you maintained that schedule?Laughing
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newmann wrote:
Going with the title of the thread, here is my offering. A 1978 works bike with no paint rubbed off the frame or engine.....:) [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/07/61734/s1200_ResizedImage_1362006679089.jpg[/img]
Going with the title of the thread, here is my offering. A 1978 works bike with no paint rubbed off the frame or engine.....Smile

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i looked your bike up on KBB they dont list "works bike" are you sure you have the model rite? it looks like a 78 or 79 honda to me, and book value is 375.00 will you take a quick 3 bills?
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Zracer 8/7/2014 10:10am
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Zracer wrote:
Wow , some of you dont ride much. I put about 30 hours a month on mine. So going by your math I should get a...
Wow , some of you dont ride much. I put about 30 hours a month on mine. So going by your math I should get a new bike every couple months. A 2011 with 75 hours? Thats devotion bro.
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How do you do that with a wife and kids and little league and soccer and balance two jobs all at the same time? And how...
How do you do that with a wife and kids and little league and soccer and balance two jobs all at the same time? And how many years have you maintained that schedule?Laughing
Not married. One job. Track in the backyard . Quite a few years.Laughing

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steveada wrote:
I don't really understand the thought process here. It's not that expensive to stick in some new valves, have the seats ground, and rebuild the crank...
I don't really understand the thought process here. It's not that expensive to stick in some new valves, have the seats ground, and rebuild the crank. Just follow the valve clearance, and when they start to go out get the head rebuilt. Trash a 2 stroke because it has 100 hours on the crank? Common, you can get the crank rebuilt for $185. Preventive maintenance is the key. You don't wait till it blows up to do something.
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They're never quite the same.... Call me crazy but rebuilt bottom ends seem to have more complications more often. I would rather not deal with it
You've never owned a 125 then have you Tongue

Even a bottom end is just regular maintenance (If done correctly).
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I sold a 2004 YZ450f that I bought right after the 2005s came out in 2006 with 2 hours on it. That was low hours.
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MxKing809 wrote:
Japanese stuff is awesome! Idk what you're talking about.... You thinking of cheap Chinese knock offs of the good Japanese stuff??
Oh no I'm talking about Japanese not Chinese. I've had about all of them. None of them are nearly as high quality as a KTM.
Matt Fisher 8/7/2014 10:23am
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Something that plays a hue part in how long the motor lasts is how you ride it.

On my son's RM85 it was a ring every 5 hours, piston every 10.
One of my friends has a beautiful 05 YZ250 that has to have over 100 hours on the original piston. He rides it 90% of the time at 1/4 throttle, at under 5000 rpms. He will probably go one more riding season and then replace the piston. Put a local pro on that bike and it would likely grenade in 2 laps.
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Zracer wrote:
Wow , some of you dont ride much. I put about 30 hours a month on mine. So going by your math I should get a...
Wow , some of you dont ride much. I put about 30 hours a month on mine. So going by your math I should get a new bike every couple months. A 2011 with 75 hours? Thats devotion bro.
Hey bud ride every chance I can. Sometime in there you have to mow the yard, go to baseball practice, wrestling practice, work on a vehicle and this and that. I probably ride more than most of my buddies. Don't question my devotion I've been doing it for 20 years. You can't always do it every weekend.
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Newmann i looked your bike up on KBB they dont list "works bike" are you sure you have the model rite? it looks like a 78...
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i looked your bike up on KBB they dont list "works bike" are you sure you have the model rite? it looks like a 78 or 79 honda to me, and book value is 375.00 will you take a quick 3 bills?
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Zracer wrote:
Wow , some of you dont ride much. I put about 30 hours a month on mine. So going by your math I should get a...
Wow , some of you dont ride much. I put about 30 hours a month on mine. So going by your math I should get a new bike every couple months. A 2011 with 75 hours? Thats devotion bro.
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Hey bud ride every chance I can. Sometime in there you have to mow the yard, go to baseball practice, wrestling practice, work on a vehicle...
Hey bud ride every chance I can. Sometime in there you have to mow the yard, go to baseball practice, wrestling practice, work on a vehicle and this and that. I probably ride more than most of my buddies. Don't question my devotion I've been doing it for 20 years. You can't always do it every weekend.
I'm in lawrence/kansas city ks. Where do you ride brah?
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Zracer wrote:
Wow , some of you dont ride much. I put about 30 hours a month on mine. So going by your math I should get a...
Wow , some of you dont ride much. I put about 30 hours a month on mine. So going by your math I should get a new bike every couple months. A 2011 with 75 hours? Thats devotion bro.
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Hey bud ride every chance I can. Sometime in there you have to mow the yard, go to baseball practice, wrestling practice, work on a vehicle...
Hey bud ride every chance I can. Sometime in there you have to mow the yard, go to baseball practice, wrestling practice, work on a vehicle and this and that. I probably ride more than most of my buddies. Don't question my devotion I've been doing it for 20 years. You can't always do it every weekend.
I dont. Sorry if I offended.
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Zracer wrote:
Wow , some of you dont ride much. I put about 30 hours a month on mine. So going by your math I should get a...
Wow , some of you dont ride much. I put about 30 hours a month on mine. So going by your math I should get a new bike every couple months. A 2011 with 75 hours? Thats devotion bro.
crusher773 wrote:
Hey bud ride every chance I can. Sometime in there you have to mow the yard, go to baseball practice, wrestling practice, work on a vehicle...
Hey bud ride every chance I can. Sometime in there you have to mow the yard, go to baseball practice, wrestling practice, work on a vehicle and this and that. I probably ride more than most of my buddies. Don't question my devotion I've been doing it for 20 years. You can't always do it every weekend.
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I'm in lawrence/kansas city ks. Where do you ride brah?
Anymore there isn't a whole lot around. Kingsville is the main place we go. Used to go to Merwin a lot because they are real close to me. Go down to Possum a few times a year, Oklahoma and Texas when I get a chance to.
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HazemG 8/7/2014 10:59am
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Anymore there isn't a whole lot around. Kingsville is the main place we go. Used to go to Merwin a lot because they are real close...
Anymore there isn't a whole lot around. Kingsville is the main place we go. Used to go to Merwin a lot because they are real close to me. Go down to Possum a few times a year, Oklahoma and Texas when I get a chance to.
You think Kville is running in a couple of weeks? I'm waiting on parts for my YZ i'm building.. I know they're going sunday but I won't be ready until 2 weeks from now. They usually go every weekend?
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Dirty Mike 8/7/2014 11:08am
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Not married. One job. Track in the backyard . Quite a few years.Laughing
All your hours are coming from your little rut figure 8 track in the back yard. Very easy hours on your bike. You make think you do that many hours in a month, but I doubt it.
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I had an 08 YZ450F that lasted 5 years and 3 of those were races seasons. About 12 races a year. I'll swear by my yamahas until I have one go bad on me earlier than that.

Matt Fisher has a VERY valid point though. Depends on how you ride it. I always tried to ride mine lower in the RPM's. Not a good idea on a 2 stroke that I have now.

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