Updated RV MXGP Rumors

TMV
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There will never be another GP in Namur, just get over it, these times are over. Doing an MX race in the middle of a city, in Europe, with all the restrictions about security (distance from riders to crowd for an example), ecological concerns and all, it is just impossible.

It's like the complete revolution of the earth around the sun... or the rumor about Cairoli willing to race an AMA MX round, happens every 365 or 366 days...
mrquick
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8/5/2014 3:31pm
Go for it RV....I think it would be cool to rule both sides of the pond.
Old-Man
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8/5/2014 3:38pm
Outsider wrote:
"RV get over yourself" ?

He hasn't said anything one way or another... everyone else has. Maybe he doesn't fuggen know what he's doing.
Funny how some folks say more just by saying nothing isn't it? Boards go all crazy and shit making up halve truths and the shit gets to a flinging from there...Laughing Laughing
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8/5/2014 3:40pm
huck wrote:
why let it bother you that much?
It doesn't bother you that it bothers me does it? :-)

It is all good just this thread gave me deja vu back to the pre Nationals time and I vented. NBD

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8/5/2014 3:43pm
I'm pretty much over RV myself. I'm not even sure if he came back he'd dominate. Yea, I said it. Injury and age seems to make things a bit different and the newer faster kid is always around the corner. He's got nothing to prove one way or the other. If he wants to come back OK, if not I'm OK with that also. Always good racing, the sport is bigger than any one person.
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8/5/2014 3:45pm
gharmon wrote:
Well I guess he doesn't really have to do shit or say shit and I'm pretty sure his team (you know the people that pay him)...
Well I guess he doesn't really have to do shit or say shit and I'm pretty sure his team (you know the people that pay him) has a little say so as to when he announces anything. Just be patient, it will come.
The Rock wrote:
Great point about patience. I am crankier than usual due to some back issues the last two weeks. Regardless my life will go on but I...
Great point about patience. I am crankier than usual due to some back issues the last two weeks. Regardless my life will go on but I am just not ready for a repeat of the will he won't he National deal. I will go get my God give me patience right now button and clip it on to be safe.

My impatience at the moment is fueled by my hope that RV goes for it. Be fantastic for the sport but as a buddy of mine pointed out "what happens if RV goes there and doesn't win?" GREAT question. From a fan standpoint I would imagine the sooner they can announce RV is or is not going to MXGP the better it would be for fans that would plan a vacation around seeing RV race MXGP.
No doubt about it. I would travel to one for sure.
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8/5/2014 3:52pm
Ing wrote:
I'm pretty much over RV myself. I'm not even sure if he came back he'd dominate. Yea, I said it. Injury and age seems to make...
I'm pretty much over RV myself. I'm not even sure if he came back he'd dominate. Yea, I said it. Injury and age seems to make things a bit different and the newer faster kid is always around the corner. He's got nothing to prove one way or the other. If he wants to come back OK, if not I'm OK with that also. Always good racing, the sport is bigger than any one person.
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8/5/2014 4:06pm
Went there for the 500 GP in 85 and 86. Like someone else said "its like no other". I walked every inch of that track in 85. You are right next to trees almost all the way around. One of the up hills was so steep it had a rope bewteen the trees so the spectators could hold on to get to the top. It was fast and sketchy but all I wanted to do was ride it. It's everything anybody has ever said about it. I was blessed to be able to go there.

My best moto memories are from that first race in 85. I had a O'neal hoody and hat on and a old SLR camera around my neck. I was walking by the vendor row and there was a trailer with a French guy selling O'neal stuff. He called me over and asked me if I was a photographer and did I work for O'neal. I laughed and said no just like O'neal products and I shoot photos for myself. When he realized I was an American he became even more interested. Asked a bunch a questions about America. He said he really wanted to go some day. I went on my way and I didn't see him the rest of the day until right after the last moto. He saw me and yelled for me to come over. We were at the trophy presentation and there were so many people there but he had a credential. He said come with me and I will get you in the front and you can take pictures. I told him I already shot all my film. He said come on and just act like your taking pictures. He got me right up in the front. I was blown away that I was standing there in front. I'm trying to remember who was on the stand. I think David Thorpe won. I think Andrea Mahlerbe was second and our boy Danny "Magoo" Chandler was third. Anyway I acted like I was taking pictures for the whole ceremony. Got covered in champain. I wish I had some extra film that day. At least I have the memories.
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8/5/2014 4:40pm
PTshox wrote:
This is the BEST post I've seen on this site! About time someone just lays it out. The guy is not playing it straight with fans...
This is the BEST post I've seen on this site! About time someone just lays it out. The guy is not playing it straight with fans at all. Which is to say he’s jerking all of us fans around. Pretty stupid in my opinion.

Oh… and don’t forget about the other stuff he doesn’t want you to know about for some strange reason. Compare that to Reed who has a child this past few days and posts a proud pop picture.


"What I don't know is WTH is all this subterfuge about? After the will RV ride the Nationals or won't he circle jerk I am not in the mindset to be jerked around by Villipoto about another series. RV as I remember said one thing one week and next week it was completely different with him NOT racing the Nationals.

RV get over yourself and just make a statement one way or the other. Please. "
You mean the same Reed who posts to social just enough to get everyone talking or to mess with people? Doesn't bother me, but there are plenty of examples of various riders strategically using the rumor mill, not just RV, Reed, etc.

Everything right now is pure speculation so why get all worked up about it. You may not agree with when or why they announce things, but that's just the way it is. I hear there's a race this weekend...
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8/5/2014 5:46pm Edited Date/Time 8/5/2014 5:47pm
honestly at this point its starting to get annoying
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I dont know why the RV thing is so secret unless they are trying to get Tomac in and if they cant then RV will race in SX?

Like the poster above I am over it....I will wait for the official announcement which could be weeks and weeks away
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8/5/2014 6:07pm
One thing is for sure, all the RV haters will suddenly love him if he goes to the GP's. And every race RV wins the USA fans will say I told you so. And every race AC wins the GP fans will do the same.
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8/5/2014 6:20pm
kiwifan wrote:
I dont know why the RV thing is so secret unless they are trying to get Tomac in and if they cant then RV will race...
I dont know why the RV thing is so secret unless they are trying to get Tomac in and if they cant then RV will race in SX?

Like the poster above I am over it....I will wait for the official announcement which could be weeks and weeks away
Eli signed with Honda till 2017 so that's not an issue.
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8/5/2014 6:27pm
kiwifan wrote:
I dont know why the RV thing is so secret unless they are trying to get Tomac in and if they cant then RV will race...
I dont know why the RV thing is so secret unless they are trying to get Tomac in and if they cant then RV will race in SX?

Like the poster above I am over it....I will wait for the official announcement which could be weeks and weeks away
And RV isn't racing SX in '15. Or so I have heard. lol
8/5/2014 6:53pm
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namur, great place. i watched Decoster's last race there, 1980. i had some international racing buddies doing the GP. We just drove up from Paris. I...
namur, great place. i watched Decoster's last race there, 1980. i had some international racing buddies doing the GP. We just drove up from Paris. I would hope for an American to go to GP racing again.
I remember Cycle Magazine had a big spread about that race when I was a kid. DeCoster on the Honda. Wasn't he dicing with Malherbe?
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8/5/2014 7:30pm Edited Date/Time 8/5/2014 7:31pm
What you idiots don't realize is that it isn't done yet, either way. HE HASN'T SIGNED YET. In America, in Europe, or retiring. It has not been decided what he will do.
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8/5/2014 7:54pm
"Show me the MONEY!"
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Sure are a lot of crybabies around here!
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Americans that have won a MX world championship or 2
Lackey 500
LaPorte 250
Parker 125 and 250
Schmidt 125 and 250
Moore 125

so it has been 20 years since an American has won a world mx gp championship
I guess an announcement will be made one way or another next month about RV either going to
Europe of retiring.
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8/5/2014 9:44pm Edited Date/Time 8/5/2014 10:44pm
I was got to GPs at Namur a few times - the first, I think in 2000, the last in 2007, an I count myself as being so lucky to have been there for Everts win in 2006.

The last time I was there, was in 2012, just after the MXDN at Lommel.

Houses are right at the bottom of the course - many will remember the stone wall / plywood covered stone wall uphill Right Hander - there are houses just across the road there now. And, just after the tiny bridge / tunnel, there is a Kindergarten on the very outside of what was a fast LH kink. And, there are many other 'encroachments' on the course. They are the sorts of things that make it Very difficult to get a GP there again.

That / those, and the fact that it's like comparing Real Roads Racing - eg:, Irish Road Racing / IOM TT to current Moto GP level tracks, in terms of safety, add up mightily against it's return. Mind you, it was crazily dangerous in the 60s and 70s , 80s, 90s there - 500 GP bikes, were Never slow at that joint, and trees were just as hard then, as they are now. And, the drop down into the Battlements / Parapits to the LH side of the main uphill, with it's 3 (or 4?) jumps, is fearfully dangerous no matter what sort of bike you are on. I don't know if the sport / teams would take the risks associated with the course.

I wish they would. Actually, what could make it safer, is if it were held as a 40 minute plus 2 lap format - where tactics came into play, and it was less that an outright sprint. It's a crime that GPs have gone to the US 30 plus 2 format, from last years 35 plus 2. In an age where bikes can be so well built, and riders have so much training info / back up, the sport is ever 'dumbed down'. Shit, we've SX, for the "peanut gallery" to get all hyped up about, haven't we?...................

You read rumours that the locals want the race back / the locals Never want the race back. That the 'EnviroNazis' will never let it back - yet those same pricks that so care for the environment, have never rehabilitated the track - sections still exist, with rain ruts down them - so much for careing about the parkland. Having a race at The Citadel - well, for you Yanks, it's something like having a race at the White House, or your Arlington National War Cemetary. There's an example of a part of the objections by some at a race being held there again.

Personally, done properly, ,by, say, Eric Geboers, as he has done previously, it could be the best thing to happen to the GPs in years, for a GP to be at Namur again. But, it could be disasterous,

If you ever get a chance to go to Belgium, get your arse to Namur. Have a walk around what's left of the course, and be amazed at it's grandeur and crazieness. Whilst you're there, check out the sand tracks of Belgium amd The Netherlands, and see what Motocross can be, without SX influences being too far in the forefront.

It's a heck of a World out there - go visit it.

Here's a link to the 92 Namur GP. Notable for various things - for you Yanks, Billy Lyles/ Liles, for the 4Ts, the 1st year for Jacky Martens ( still a serious mover and shaker in the GPs) Husky effort, who got , in 93 the first 4t World Championships in over 2 decades, Kurt Nicholl, Dave Thorpe, Joel Smets on a Honda 500, , prior to his 4t 'Berg Championship years,Marcus Hansson - the last 500cc (well, 491cc) 2t World Champion in '94 ( of course, the last 2t '500' WC was King, on the '360' KTM in '96), and the late, great Georges Jobe., with his lst World Championship:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfhZ1Gkuqfk - sorry, I'm crap at doing links.

You can see the curb and guttering of 'modern' street encroachment, even in those years, in these videos.

As for RV to The World Championships - I'd love to see it happen, but very much doubt it. I suspect MX Geoff, Luongos' Mouthpiece / Sycophantic Supporter (and, employee), is just pushing the 'rumour' for all it's worth, on behalf of that mongrel, Luongo.
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8/5/2014 10:57pm
The RV to GP or RV to Retire or RV to race AMA is getting like the "What bike is Chad going to ride" ordeal.
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8/5/2014 11:28pm
i would like nothing more than to see true dominant force in american mx/sx racing go to europe and take the gps.
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8/5/2014 11:32pm
Cygnus wrote:
Eli signed with Honda till 2017 so that's not an issue.
What people haven't really focused on is the number of riders Honda might have under their tent next season...
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I don't get all the pent up frustration/anger about the (rumored) future of Ryan V. If continues to race in the U.S. it'll be great. If he chooses to race in G.P.s it'll be great. If he chooses/needs to retire, then life and Motocross will carry on and still be great.

The best come and the best go. It's the circle of life and nothing can stop it.

When he's good and ready he'll let his future be known to all but since, at no point, has he said for people to stand by for an announcement, it's a little unfair for people to criticise him for delaying it.
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8/6/2014 12:20am
PalerBlue wrote:
I don't get all the pent up frustration/anger about the (rumored) future of Ryan V. If continues to race in the U.S. it'll be great. If...
I don't get all the pent up frustration/anger about the (rumored) future of Ryan V. If continues to race in the U.S. it'll be great. If he chooses to race in G.P.s it'll be great. If he chooses/needs to retire, then life and Motocross will carry on and still be great.

The best come and the best go. It's the circle of life and nothing can stop it.

When he's good and ready he'll let his future be known to all but since, at no point, has he said for people to stand by for an announcement, it's a little unfair for people to criticise him for delaying it.
Someone gets it.
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8/6/2014 12:33am
PalerBlue wrote:
I don't get all the pent up frustration/anger about the (rumored) future of Ryan V. If continues to race in the U.S. it'll be great. If...
I don't get all the pent up frustration/anger about the (rumored) future of Ryan V. If continues to race in the U.S. it'll be great. If he chooses to race in G.P.s it'll be great. If he chooses/needs to retire, then life and Motocross will carry on and still be great.

The best come and the best go. It's the circle of life and nothing can stop it.

When he's good and ready he'll let his future be known to all but since, at no point, has he said for people to stand by for an announcement, it's a little unfair for people to criticise him for delaying it.
This, exactly.

He can do whatever he damned well pleases.

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8/6/2014 12:46am
kiwifan wrote:
I dont know why the RV thing is so secret unless they are trying to get Tomac in and if they cant then RV will race...
I dont know why the RV thing is so secret unless they are trying to get Tomac in and if they cant then RV will race in SX?

Like the poster above I am over it....I will wait for the official announcement which could be weeks and weeks away
Cygnus wrote:
Eli signed with Honda till 2017 so that's not an issue.
huh? I thought he only had 1 more year for Geico and had a option out of that??
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8/6/2014 12:52am
Cygnus wrote:
Eli signed with Honda till 2017 so that's not an issue.
GuyB wrote:
What people haven't really focused on is the number of riders Honda might have under their tent next season...
lol probably because they have never invested in a lot of riders since the 80's?

But IF (and I say IF) that is going to happen then thats quite cool!

Thinking about who that could be though...

Canard (obviously)
Seely (assuming since everyone says he is on the factory honda)
Tomac (if the honda contract through 2017 is true then that puts paid the rumours to him going to kawasaki)
Will Hahn?
ummmmmmm?

someone help me out!
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8/6/2014 12:52am Edited Date/Time 8/6/2014 12:53am
"Whether Ryan Villopoto is coming to Europe is still not clear. The name Ryan Villopoto was mentioned frequently in the paddock last weekend in Lommel
Kawasaki Europe Racing Manager "Steve Guttridge" was not present at Lommel because he was in Japan to discuss options and the future of Villopoto
 
The decision has to come from Japan because Kawasaki Heavy Industries, which is responsible for the American race budget, has given the green light for a team change

It remains to be seen if Villopoto moved to the World Championship"
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