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Tuck812
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Hey Digger ,I was wondering if you could give any pros or cons on making the switch from my 450 to 250 2stroke. I'm on the fence about selling both my 450 and just going with a 250 smoker any info/advice would be helpful thanks
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Got mine. Thanks digger! Smile


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Tuck812 wrote:
Hey Digger ,I was wondering if you could give any pros or cons on making the switch from my 450 to 250 2stroke. I'm on the...
Hey Digger ,I was wondering if you could give any pros or cons on making the switch from my 450 to 250 2stroke. I'm on the fence about selling both my 450 and just going with a 250 smoker any info/advice would be helpful thanks
You have to shift.
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Tuck812 wrote:
Hey Digger ,I was wondering if you could give any pros or cons on making the switch from my 450 to 250 2stroke. I'm on the...
Hey Digger ,I was wondering if you could give any pros or cons on making the switch from my 450 to 250 2stroke. I'm on the fence about selling both my 450 and just going with a 250 smoker any info/advice would be helpful thanks
Pros: you smile a lot
Cons: your cheeks hurt

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dedi684 wrote:
Got mine. Thanks digger! :) [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/01/61349/s1200_20140801_113230.jpg[/img]
Got mine. Thanks digger! Smile


Best looking bike out of the box IMO, congrats.
Tuck812
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8/1/2014 9:37pm Edited Date/Time 8/2/2014 7:31am
Tuck812 wrote:
Hey Digger ,I was wondering if you could give any pros or cons on making the switch from my 450 to 250 2stroke. I'm on the...
Hey Digger ,I was wondering if you could give any pros or cons on making the switch from my 450 to 250 2stroke. I'm on the fence about selling both my 450 and just going with a 250 smoker any info/advice would be helpful thanks
nornevrder wrote:
Pros: you smile a lot
Cons: your cheeks hurt
Nornevrder thanks your right I bought tc 125 and have so much fun ridding it but was thinking of getting a 250 just not sure if I want to give up my 450
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8/1/2014 11:42pm
Tuck812 wrote:
Hey Digger ,I was wondering if you could give any pros or cons on making the switch from my 450 to 250 2stroke. I'm on the...
Hey Digger ,I was wondering if you could give any pros or cons on making the switch from my 450 to 250 2stroke. I'm on the fence about selling both my 450 and just going with a 250 smoker any info/advice would be helpful thanks
nornevrder wrote:
Pros: you smile a lot
Cons: your cheeks hurt
Tuck812 wrote:
Nornevrder thanks your right I bought tc 125 and have so much fun ridding it but was thinking of getting a 250 just not sure if...
Nornevrder thanks your right I bought tc 125 and have so much fun ridding it but was thinking of getting a 250 just not sure if I want to give up my 450
I may not be digger but I can shed some light on the switch.

If you aren't an aggresive rider ( no shame in not being one ) then you may want to stay on the 4 banger. You have to stay on the throttle constantly, and don't have the luxury of messing ruining a corner and still make the next jump:

That being said if you do switch you will never go back. 2 strokes are so much more fun to have. The sounds, smell, everything
. The weight will be the first thing you notice. The first couple times you ride it you will almost feel like the bike floats.

Lastly you just can't beat the maintenance cost. I GRANDED my 03 RM 250 motor about 6 months ago. Top and bottom end with labor was under 700.

Anyone here who says they need the power of a 450 is full of shit. I would be willing to bet 99% of the mx world can't ride a 125 2 stroke to its fullest potential.

If you take anything from this rambling post, let it be that if you do switch you will truly start having fun on a dirt bike again
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8/2/2014 5:23am
nornevrder wrote:
Pros: you smile a lot
Cons: your cheeks hurt
Tuck812 wrote:
Nornevrder thanks your right I bought tc 125 and have so much fun ridding it but was thinking of getting a 250 just not sure if...
Nornevrder thanks your right I bought tc 125 and have so much fun ridding it but was thinking of getting a 250 just not sure if I want to give up my 450
moscrop940 wrote:
I may not be digger but I can shed some light on the switch. If you aren't an aggresive rider ( no shame in not being...
I may not be digger but I can shed some light on the switch.

If you aren't an aggresive rider ( no shame in not being one ) then you may want to stay on the 4 banger. You have to stay on the throttle constantly, and don't have the luxury of messing ruining a corner and still make the next jump:

That being said if you do switch you will never go back. 2 strokes are so much more fun to have. The sounds, smell, everything
. The weight will be the first thing you notice. The first couple times you ride it you will almost feel like the bike floats.

Lastly you just can't beat the maintenance cost. I GRANDED my 03 RM 250 motor about 6 months ago. Top and bottom end with labor was under 700.

Anyone here who says they need the power of a 450 is full of shit. I would be willing to bet 99% of the mx world can't ride a 125 2 stroke to its fullest potential.

If you take anything from this rambling post, let it be that if you do switch you will truly start having fun on a dirt bike again
I couldn't have said it any better :-) I've always been a 2 stroke guy and trust me up til a few yrs ago I was constantly try to make the switch. I'd buy a new 450 every cpl of yrs and race it for the first 4-5 races of the season and always end up selling it and getting another 250 2 stroke. My crazy cut and thrust and zig and zag eratic riding style just doesn't work on a 450. My lap times are way faster on a 250 2 stroke and the transponder shows me this all the time. So I'm definitely not one of those guys who can and will go faster on a 450. I tend to ride a 450 like a 2 stroke and that absolutely does NOT work :-) At this point in my life it's all about fun and I have way more fun on my 2 stroke.
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8/2/2014 5:30am
Tuck812 wrote:
Hey Digger ,I was wondering if you could give any pros or cons on making the switch from my 450 to 250 2stroke. I'm on the...
Hey Digger ,I was wondering if you could give any pros or cons on making the switch from my 450 to 250 2stroke. I'm on the fence about selling both my 450 and just going with a 250 smoker any info/advice would be helpful thanks
What classes do you ride in? I'm positive that my 300SX can run with any 450 short of factory team 450. So if you were going to do it and you're riding in the expert class then I'd go with the 300SXS kit. In my opinion it levels the playing field with the 450s.You're going to be 25lbs lighter and can out brake and dive deeper into a turn than a 450 and you can make mid air corrections and snap line choice decisions that a 450 4 banger can only dream of doing.
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dedi684 wrote:
Got mine. Thanks digger! :) [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/01/61349/s1200_20140801_113230.jpg[/img]
Got mine. Thanks digger! Smile


Cool, you went all the way to Motorbikes from NY? Great shop.
Tuck812
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8/2/2014 7:42am Edited Date/Time 8/2/2014 7:42am
Tuck812 wrote:
Hey Digger ,I was wondering if you could give any pros or cons on making the switch from my 450 to 250 2stroke. I'm on the...
Hey Digger ,I was wondering if you could give any pros or cons on making the switch from my 450 to 250 2stroke. I'm on the fence about selling both my 450 and just going with a 250 smoker any info/advice would be helpful thanks
Digger29 wrote:
What classes do you ride in? I'm positive that my 300SX can run with any 450 short of factory team 450. So if you were going...
What classes do you ride in? I'm positive that my 300SX can run with any 450 short of factory team 450. So if you were going to do it and you're riding in the expert class then I'd go with the 300SXS kit. In my opinion it levels the playing field with the 450s.You're going to be 25lbs lighter and can out brake and dive deeper into a turn than a 450 and you can make mid air corrections and snap line choice decisions that a 450 4 banger can only dream of doing.
I ride in 30+Jr. class going to start racing the 40+ Jr next series. I do like the idea of being able to take any lines I want my 450 turns great but just feels really heavy.
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8/2/2014 7:48am
Tuck812 wrote:
Nornevrder thanks your right I bought tc 125 and have so much fun ridding it but was thinking of getting a 250 just not sure if...
Nornevrder thanks your right I bought tc 125 and have so much fun ridding it but was thinking of getting a 250 just not sure if I want to give up my 450
moscrop940 wrote:
I may not be digger but I can shed some light on the switch. If you aren't an aggresive rider ( no shame in not being...
I may not be digger but I can shed some light on the switch.

If you aren't an aggresive rider ( no shame in not being one ) then you may want to stay on the 4 banger. You have to stay on the throttle constantly, and don't have the luxury of messing ruining a corner and still make the next jump:

That being said if you do switch you will never go back. 2 strokes are so much more fun to have. The sounds, smell, everything
. The weight will be the first thing you notice. The first couple times you ride it you will almost feel like the bike floats.

Lastly you just can't beat the maintenance cost. I GRANDED my 03 RM 250 motor about 6 months ago. Top and bottom end with labor was under 700.

Anyone here who says they need the power of a 450 is full of shit. I would be willing to bet 99% of the mx world can't ride a 125 2 stroke to its fullest potential.

If you take anything from this rambling post, let it be that if you do switch you will truly start having fun on a dirt bike again
Digger29 wrote:
I couldn't have said it any better :-) I've always been a 2 stroke guy and trust me up til a few yrs ago I was...
I couldn't have said it any better :-) I've always been a 2 stroke guy and trust me up til a few yrs ago I was constantly try to make the switch. I'd buy a new 450 every cpl of yrs and race it for the first 4-5 races of the season and always end up selling it and getting another 250 2 stroke. My crazy cut and thrust and zig and zag eratic riding style just doesn't work on a 450. My lap times are way faster on a 250 2 stroke and the transponder shows me this all the time. So I'm definitely not one of those guys who can and will go faster on a 450. I tend to ride a 450 like a 2 stroke and that absolutely does NOT work :-) At this point in my life it's all about fun and I have way more fun on my 2 stroke.
I rode my 450 that's all set up with Rg3 suspension back to back with my 125 that has stock suspension and was only 1 second faster on the 450 but I was tired after 4 laps on the 125 I can go 10 laps and not feel as worn out
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dedi684 wrote:
Got mine. Thanks digger! :) [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/01/61349/s1200_20140801_113230.jpg[/img]
Got mine. Thanks digger! Smile


Cool, you went all the way to Motorbikes from NY? Great shop.
yup I do all of my riding in new england anyhow Smile
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8/2/2014 11:57am
Tuck812 wrote:
Hey Digger ,I was wondering if you could give any pros or cons on making the switch from my 450 to 250 2stroke. I'm on the...
Hey Digger ,I was wondering if you could give any pros or cons on making the switch from my 450 to 250 2stroke. I'm on the fence about selling both my 450 and just going with a 250 smoker any info/advice would be helpful thanks
JA946 wrote:
You have to shift.
I'm picking up your sarcasm
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8/2/2014 12:35pm
Tuck812 wrote:
I rode my 450 that's all set up with Rg3 suspension back to back with my 125 that has stock suspension and was only 1 second...
I rode my 450 that's all set up with Rg3 suspension back to back with my 125 that has stock suspension and was only 1 second faster on the 450 but I was tired after 4 laps on the 125 I can go 10 laps and not feel as worn out
I remember reading some article where they put riders on a 250 2 stroke and a 250(or 450 can't remember) four stroke and they were not allowed to ride the bikes except for in a race. That way they would have to ride the bikes at full race pace without getting to know them. The results were interesting, they found out that for almost every rider, their average lap times where within a couple of seconds of each other for the 2 bikes. They concluded that each rider has an "internal speed limit" at which they ride where a faster bike does not equate faster lap times. They also said that the best and worse lap times were put down on the 250 2 stroke. I'll have to find the article again.
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8/2/2014 12:41pm
Just wanted to ad to this thread.

That is one good looking bike.
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8/2/2014 7:44pm

I couldn't wait for the '15.....
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Hey digger, managed to get your bike on a dyno yet?
8/3/2014 11:52pm
swtwtwtw wrote:
[img]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3924/14627564839_77db7a601e_n.jpg[/img] I couldn't wait for the '15.....

I couldn't wait for the '15.....
Bestest looking bikes at the moment! Apart from that fuckn front fender !!!!!
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They do look sick, the factory bikes look crazy!

I'm already nervous about the amount of white I'm putting on mine tho, can't imagine it's gonna be easy keeping those swedesteeds lookin new!
Tuck812
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swtwtwtw wrote:
[img]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3924/14627564839_77db7a601e_n.jpg[/img] I couldn't wait for the '15.....

I couldn't wait for the '15.....
Nice bike !!
Tuck812
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8/8/2014 7:34pm
Ok guys what one ktm or husky and what up grades do you recommend I have 2500 to play with after bike purchase ?
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8/8/2014 8:38pm
Tuck812 wrote:
Ok guys what one ktm or husky and what up grades do you recommend I have 2500 to play with after bike purchase ?
extra set of wheels and always a set of fresh rubber.
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Tuck812 wrote:
Ok guys what one ktm or husky and what up grades do you recommend I have 2500 to play with after bike purchase ?
Ride it, use the specs from the owner's manual. You may not want any "upgrades", I don't.
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Just bought a 2015 250sx. So much fun. What jetting specs is the go? Cheers
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snape99 wrote:
Just bought a 2015 250sx. So much fun. What jetting specs is the go? Cheers
Search digger's posts....
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We'll guys I did it


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Nice!

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