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Edited Date/Time 6/4/2014 11:40am
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Beefcake727 6/3/2014 4:50am
6/3/2014 4:50am
I was hoping they would go back to Showa on the 450.
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MX690 6/3/2014 4:53am
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The exhaust header on the 450 no longer goes in front of the frame.... Good I always hated that look.
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Flip109 6/3/2014 4:58am
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When are they gonna lose that white back fender. All red would look so much better.
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VicDaMoan03 6/3/2014 5:42am
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Flip109 wrote:
When are they gonna lose that white back fender. All red would look so much better.
Totally agree! Even worse is the RMZ's. A bikes fender should be the same as the main color of the bike. The number plates should be white period.



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mmcmx 6/3/2014 6:22am
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Flip109 wrote:
When are they gonna lose that white back fender. All red would look so much better.
VicDaMoan03 wrote:
Totally agree! Even worse is the RMZ's. A bikes fender should be the same as the main color of the bike. The number plates should be...
Totally agree! Even worse is the RMZ's. A bikes fender should be the same as the main color of the bike. The number plates should be white period.



I like the black fender, its the yellow numberplates that look hideous!
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mmcmx 6/3/2014 6:24am
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So the 250 has Showa SFF air but its not the latest version like on the zook right?
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mx317 6/3/2014 8:14am
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Looks like a new style PSF fork for the 450, maybe two chamber instead of one like the last two years. Looks like Showa SFF Air of the 250 also.
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Lightning78 6/3/2014 8:35am
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mmcmx wrote:
So the 250 has Showa SFF air but its not the latest version like on the zook right?
Yes it is the new triple air sff fork…. I can't wait for these bikes to be out a while, with the rmz and the crf250f having the showa triple air forks a set is bound to pop up on ebay at a good price and I'm going to put them on my 06 RM250… I imagine a fork like that on a lightweight 2 stroke would be pure butter on the track!
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Brent 6/3/2014 10:12am
6/3/2014 10:12am Edited Date/Time 6/3/2014 10:14am
Remember, since 2005 Honda has been on a 4 year model cycle with their 450. The newest version came out in 2013, so don't expect a significant change in the chassis until the 2017 model, if they stick to that.

They also have a history of getting all the issues fixed by the end of the design cycle, as they did with the 2008 and 2012 450's, before they throw the design away and start over.
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bvm111 6/3/2014 12:21pm
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This is pretty funky... all 3 adjusters located on the top of the shock on the 450!
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BIGRIGGIN 6/3/2014 2:07pm
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Hard to tell - did they get rid of the dual exhaust?
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FLmxer 6/3/2014 3:44pm
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BIGRIGGIN wrote:
Hard to tell - did they get rid of the dual exhaust?
It's still dual. I hope there is some improvement on this model.
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jtiger12 6/3/2014 4:38pm
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Was hoping like mad for triple air. Doesnt look like I'm getting a new bike, again. Guess I'll save my money and throw a new head on the 07
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rolandk 6/3/2014 5:05pm
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Dig it! Hoping to upgrade my '09.
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Skippie 6/3/2014 7:25pm
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mmcmx wrote:
So the 250 has Showa SFF air but its not the latest version like on the zook right?
Lightning78 wrote:
Yes it is the new triple air sff fork…. I can't wait for these bikes to be out a while, with the rmz and the crf250f...
Yes it is the new triple air sff fork…. I can't wait for these bikes to be out a while, with the rmz and the crf250f having the showa triple air forks a set is bound to pop up on ebay at a good price and I'm going to put them on my 06 RM250… I imagine a fork like that on a lightweight 2 stroke would be pure butter on the track!
I don't believe the 250 has the triple air. I don't see the extra canister at the bottom of the fork leg.
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chase414 6/3/2014 7:36pm
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the 250 is triple air just the chamber is located in the fork lug instead of off the back of it and this is because they they switched the sides so the air side is on the brake side, no room for the chamber off the back.
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Beast666 6/3/2014 9:08pm
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Skippie wrote:
I don't believe the 250 has the triple air. I don't see the extra canister at the bottom of the fork leg.
I was thinking the same thing The Suzuki SFF triple chamber air fork is on the Right leg and the Left leg is the damping leg. In the CRF the air leg is on the Left the balance chamber on the bottom of the fork is not there as that is the mount for the caliper unless Showa has put the balance chamber into the leg but I think it would be a pain in the A$$ to set the pressure with the valve on the underside of the fork leg.
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kiwifan 6/3/2014 10:04pm
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I love the new suspension, looks the goods, made lots of changes, power should be better....I think its order time.

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TNL830 6/3/2014 10:07pm
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mmcmx wrote:
So the 250 has Showa SFF air but its not the latest version like on the zook right?
Lightning78 wrote:
Yes it is the new triple air sff fork…. I can't wait for these bikes to be out a while, with the rmz and the crf250f...
Yes it is the new triple air sff fork…. I can't wait for these bikes to be out a while, with the rmz and the crf250f having the showa triple air forks a set is bound to pop up on ebay at a good price and I'm going to put them on my 06 RM250… I imagine a fork like that on a lightweight 2 stroke would be pure butter on the track!
This is exactly what my suspension guy and I want to do but I hated the KYB PSF forks. So I'm waiting to get the reviews on the new forks.
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chrisbuehler 6/3/2014 10:46pm
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Brent wrote:
Remember, since 2005 Honda has been on a 4 year model cycle with their 450. The newest version came out in 2013, so don't expect a...
Remember, since 2005 Honda has been on a 4 year model cycle with their 450. The newest version came out in 2013, so don't expect a significant change in the chassis until the 2017 model, if they stick to that.

They also have a history of getting all the issues fixed by the end of the design cycle, as they did with the 2008 and 2012 450's, before they throw the design away and start over.
Truth. Shitty for me I bought the 2009 CRF450. God I hated it but every year they got allot better. A friend just grabbed a '12 leftover and I was all for it. So much better looking then the new Honda's with all it's sharp angles and I don't think I could ever bring myself to buy a bike with dual exhaust.
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HenryA 6/4/2014 6:07am
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MX690 wrote:
The exhaust header on the 450 no longer goes in front of the frame.... Good I always hated that look.
And not to forget how the pipe got roosted with stones, made it look like it was dragged after a truck for 30 miles after only 15 hours of riding.
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Darryl916 6/4/2014 6:39am
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As if predicting clicker settings between motos isn't complicated enough. Gonna be so much easier to MISS the setup now.




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hvaughn88 6/4/2014 6:42am
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Sometimes I just wish that bikes came stock with no options for adjustments and no aftermarket companies, haha. I know it's crazy but sometimes I think the more options you have is just the more chances you have to fuck it up
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Darryl916 6/4/2014 7:07am
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hvaughn88 wrote:
Sometimes I just wish that bikes came stock with no options for adjustments and no aftermarket companies, haha. I know it's crazy but sometimes I think...
Sometimes I just wish that bikes came stock with no options for adjustments and no aftermarket companies, haha. I know it's crazy but sometimes I think the more options you have is just the more chances you have to fuck it up
I disagree. More bells and whistles the better. it will help someone that knows what they are doing get the job done. I'm just saying I'll F it up for sure.
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hvaughn88 6/4/2014 7:11am
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hvaughn88 wrote:
Sometimes I just wish that bikes came stock with no options for adjustments and no aftermarket companies, haha. I know it's crazy but sometimes I think...
Sometimes I just wish that bikes came stock with no options for adjustments and no aftermarket companies, haha. I know it's crazy but sometimes I think the more options you have is just the more chances you have to fuck it up
Darryl916 wrote:
I disagree. More bells and whistles the better. it will help someone that knows what they are doing get the job done. I'm just saying I'll...
I disagree. More bells and whistles the better. it will help someone that knows what they are doing get the job done. I'm just saying I'll F it up for sure.
Haha, well obviously it helps someone who knows what they are doing. I'm using a bit of hyperbole here to basically say that I think bikes just might getting a little more advanced than the average joe can or will be able to make adjustments on. I think some guys (and I'm speaking for the average weekend warrior, not a factory rider) see the availability of all these adjustments and spend more time worrying about what adjustments they can make instead of worrying about just putting in seat time and improving their riding skills, that's all.
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hvaughn88 6/4/2014 7:14am
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hvaughn88 wrote:
Sometimes I just wish that bikes came stock with no options for adjustments and no aftermarket companies, haha. I know it's crazy but sometimes I think...
Sometimes I just wish that bikes came stock with no options for adjustments and no aftermarket companies, haha. I know it's crazy but sometimes I think the more options you have is just the more chances you have to fuck it up
Darryl916 wrote:
I disagree. More bells and whistles the better. it will help someone that knows what they are doing get the job done. I'm just saying I'll...
I disagree. More bells and whistles the better. it will help someone that knows what they are doing get the job done. I'm just saying I'll F it up for sure.
By the way, Darryl, I think you and I must be pretty bored at the moment because we have been responding to each other's posts in multiple threads, haha. Maybe we should get to workTongue
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Skerby 6/4/2014 8:14am
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It is going to take a wizard to understand what to do with all of those fork clickers. I would probably just not touch them ever.
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DTHA70 6/4/2014 8:28am
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high speed and low speed compression and rebound! gonna be amazing to be ble to valve and dial in all of those things separately! im a fiend for adjustability and improvement though.
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FLmxer 6/4/2014 11:40am
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I'm getting off a 2005 crf so all the goodies are stacking up. I love tuning the suspension . I used to ride long soft motocross on Tuesday and clay sx on Thursday for years and you had to use different setting for each. If you don't you are missing out on the bikes potential. I have gone to the sx and believed there was no way I could get through a rutted clay turn fast enough to jump through the rhythm sections even though it worked perfect at the outdoor track but with a few clicks like maybe speeding up rebound etc with in a half lap I can feel that the sections are no problem now. It really works. I adjust my buddies all the time with out even telling them sometimes but they trust I'm helping and if not it won't make you crash. Fun
I can't wait for a ride review.

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