Mxa and jody

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I talked to Jody for quite a while last week. They've got lots of plans for the National, and a whole ton of work to do before it happens.
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5/12/2014 12:01pm Edited Date/Time 5/12/2014 12:02pm
I think MXA and Jody are harmless, and who cares if we're called vitards? Things change and print magazines will become a thing of the past, hopefully MXA and Jody won't.
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5/12/2014 12:14pm Edited Date/Time 5/12/2014 12:14pm
Outdoor mx is not long for this world im afraid. Not enough sponsor exposure, and eventually factories will plead poverty and start concentrating on sx only...
Outdoor mx is not long for this world im afraid. Not enough sponsor exposure, and eventually factories will plead poverty and start concentrating on sx only. I hope im wrong because I despise sx compared to outdoors.
I don't know how much longer "pro/factory" mx/sx racing can exist either.... the manufactures have crap numbers for new bike sales and local joe blow sunday racing is dead as hell in many parts of the country....

sx in domes and on tv can still pull eyeballs to be marketed too, but due to the high prices of bikes and jack shit of nowhere to ride them, our hobby/sport is doomed..... we can not expect the pro side we love to watch so much to get better, it is only gonna be downsizes or eliminated all together...
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MXA since 1974, myself.
Still read it.
Still race.
Curved hat bill and ears out.

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5/12/2014 12:27pm Edited Date/Time 5/12/2014 1:06pm
JordanB wrote:
Ac 92 called us all Vitards a few times on the vegas pulpcast. Since JT and Matthes and DV are here, we are all in good...
Ac 92 called us all Vitards a few times on the vegas pulpcast.

Since JT and Matthes and DV are here, we are all in good company.
In some cases it's well-deserved. It's not a name that I like, and all I can do is try and moderate enough here to try and improve the perception...or reality.
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Getting my posts deleted.

Hey Rebus, let's just end this because you are a hypocrite liar - proven by your post history.

Do not EVER talk to me on here.
5/12/2014 12:42pm
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Getting my posts deleted. Hey Rebus, let's just end this because you are a hypocrite liar - proven by your post history. Do not EVER talk...
Getting my posts deleted.

Hey Rebus, let's just end this because you are a hypocrite liar - proven by your post history.

Do not EVER talk to me on here.
C'mon guys try keep on topic ...a few good points seem to hav been raised. Av never really thought much about mxa or any mag really being made extinct due to the Internet but I wld really miss having a mag. I am aware u can go online and get up to date news a lot sooner but I so much prefer waiting on my mags cummin through the door, finding the perfect secluded spot(usually the toilet) and reading my mag!
So here's to another 30 years of good reading guys
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Getting my posts deleted. Hey Rebus, let's just end this because you are a hypocrite liar - proven by your post history. Do not EVER talk...
Getting my posts deleted.

Hey Rebus, let's just end this because you are a hypocrite liar - proven by your post history.

Do not EVER talk to me on here.
They get deleted because starting a fight in here doesn't add to the forum. Same goes for many other users. If you want to do nothing but argue, go start a thread in the Dojo...which can alternately be pronounced Dumbgeon.
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Fair enough
5/12/2014 1:15pm
I think we could all agree that most of the moto magazines are mostly focused on advertising and with that comes a problem. Simply put it is such a small industry that if a magazine burns a bridge they might never get any money from that company in the future. So its a game of survival for the magazines. I stopped buying RacerX and now I buy MXA. I like the stories and the comments from Jody. It seems as if they are trying to give the readers the facts but they are not trying to bash any certain bike. Its a tough job and I would not want it! But for now my money goes to MXA because Jody mostly tells it how it is.

If MXA could get Ping then that would be a nice addition!
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mxa is the only one i get now.don't even get moto or dbr anymore.i just like the wording and the layout,kinda suit's my eye for some reason.can't beat a real paper magazine either imo.
i'm 46 btw Sad
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smezmx wrote:
mxa is the only one i get now.don't even get moto or dbr anymore.i just like the wording and the layout,kinda suit's my eye for some...
mxa is the only one i get now.don't even get moto or dbr anymore.i just like the wording and the layout,kinda suit's my eye for some reason.can't beat a real paper magazine either imo.
i'm 46 btw Sad
The cyclenews online is free and is really good. I don't read their reviews but the news part is good and whatever (uberflip I think) online format that they use is the best mag format IMO.
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70% advertising not enough content

Weisel went wong
5/12/2014 2:24pm
wow123 wrote:
70% advertising not enough content

Weisel went wong
I wld have to disagree, most of the other American mags I have seen over here have just as much advertisement if not more and very little decent content. I think I read somewhere that the mags are actually sold at a loss and its the advertisement that pays or something....
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wow123 wrote:
70% advertising not enough content

Weisel went wong
I wld have to disagree, most of the other American mags I have seen over here have just as much advertisement if not more and very...
I wld have to disagree, most of the other American mags I have seen over here have just as much advertisement if not more and very little decent content. I think I read somewhere that the mags are actually sold at a loss and its the advertisement that pays or something....
yeah true, but the others have boob ads and they just have him, was a big fan now not, his hostility to cr years ago was total bs imo
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5/12/2014 3:30pm
My fellow moto fans.....do you really think that any of these publications don't have bias ?? There isn't a publication of any kind out there that doesn't have a point of view or agenda. That does not make any of them bad... not by any stretch of the imagination.

MXA does an awesome job with product reviews and bike tests. Most of the products they suggest a racer should change are genuine improvements. Can you enjoy riding or racing that particular bike without that mod ?? Of course you can but it is an improvement if you choose to follow the advice. Does that help their advertisers....sometimes for sure. If you like everything the AMA is doing then don't read Jody's rants about the AMA or YouthStream.

RacerX does an incredible job with Loretta's coverage, person insight stuff, amateur coverage and lifestyle. I think the amateur coverage is the heartbeat of the sport. PLUS.........DC posts here and answers questions for most of you. Where else will you find that ??? UMMM...nowhere.

TransWorld appeals to a different group (I am old) but has some really cool features and some hip industry guys.

Dirt Rider does a great job with the off road stuff and has some very interesting adventure articles.

The point is that they all have a stake in the game and I believe want good things to happen for the sport. They all have a point they want to make or cover.....that is fine. Enjoy the read, think it through and maybe disagree with the point but at least think. Read everything with an eye toward the writers agenda and it all becomes much easier to digest.

Why wouldn't a publication want to help it's advertisers sell products ??
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5/12/2014 3:37pm
GuyB wrote:
I talked to Jody for quite a while last week. They've got lots of plans for the National, and a whole ton of work to do...
I talked to Jody for quite a while last week. They've got lots of plans for the National, and a whole ton of work to do before it happens.
I wish everyone knew just went into putting on a national event (of any kind). It would change so many conversations................

GuyB, maybe an article sometime that includes interviews with a few national promoters and what they have to do leading up to the event and on event weekend ?? .

A very well known promoter told me this " For months leading up to the event you are pushing a boulder up a long hill, then the event starts and the boulder is rolling down the backside of the hill and you can't do anything to stop it".
5/12/2014 3:45pm
TomZ wrote:
I wish everyone knew just went into putting on a national event (of any kind). It would change so many conversations................ GuyB, maybe an article sometime...
I wish everyone knew just went into putting on a national event (of any kind). It would change so many conversations................

GuyB, maybe an article sometime that includes interviews with a few national promoters and what they have to do leading up to the event and on event weekend ?? .

A very well known promoter told me this " For months leading up to the event you are pushing a boulder up a long hill, then the event starts and the boulder is rolling down the backside of the hill and you can't do anything to stop it".
As a former concert promoter, I can say with certainty that those that have not put on an event involving lots of people, and semi-famous people, really have no clue. Now, onto the subject at hand.

I've been reading MXA off and on since 1977. I had a 20-year absence from MX, and did not read or watch anything related to moto (too painful). I was pleasantly surprised back in 2012 when I picked up my first MXA since 1992 and found it to be a lot like I remembered. Jody's Box has always been a favorite, and I do think they put their "all" into the bike tests. I'm starting to like Basher's bit quite a bunch too. He's been especially good, in my opinion, the last couple of issues.
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5/12/2014 3:52pm
Jodys Box is the first thing I read.

Jody gets it when it comes to bringing back entry level and affordable bikes.
5/12/2014 4:03pm
Yeah Jody does give it to the readers very directly. I like that he wants affordable bikes and an AMA that makes rules based upon logic and not money.
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5/12/2014 4:16pm
As far as bike tests go, there's none better imo. MXA leave no stone unturned and seem willing to spend a small fortune testing all year...
As far as bike tests go, there's none better imo. MXA leave no stone unturned and seem willing to spend a small fortune testing all year round. Credit where credit's due - no other magazine comes close for sheer dedication to testing bikes and various products.

Where they get on my nerves from time to time is with their derogatory remarks toward the GP riders; the latest (posted just this last week) being that Tony and Jeffrey are "big fish in small ponds". After the last MXDN they even had a brief mini meltdown proclaiming that the last two tracks had been purposely chosen to thwart the AMA riders, and basically that they were too rough (they then thought better of it and changed that part of the article). Fair enough... the authorities that run the GPs deserve a bit of heat here and there for some of their crazy rule changes. But really at this point the GP riders themselves deserve more respect for their speed..
Basher is definitely found his voice and it a great addition to the magazine.

Regarding But really at this point the GP riders themselves deserve more respect for their speed.. I think the respect level goes up every year at the MXoN.
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I used to worship MXA in 80's and 90's ...now (perhaps because of the online world) I find more balance (esp. with bike tests) by looking at them all rather than just MXA. I think everyone is well aware they dont really like Honda's anymore, well that is certainly the perception they portray...now that is NOT the reason why I like MXA less, just I get more out of seeing every magazines bike test (or product reviews) not just MXA's
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5/12/2014 5:04pm
mxa was great when dick miller and Baz were there. Jody era not so much. Super hunky wrote a great [ Judy ] bit in dirtbike mag. maybe someone can find it. very funnny stuff.
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TomZ wrote:
My fellow moto fans.....do you really think that any of these publications don't have bias ?? There isn't a publication of any kind out there that...
My fellow moto fans.....do you really think that any of these publications don't have bias ?? There isn't a publication of any kind out there that doesn't have a point of view or agenda. That does not make any of them bad... not by any stretch of the imagination.

MXA does an awesome job with product reviews and bike tests. Most of the products they suggest a racer should change are genuine improvements. Can you enjoy riding or racing that particular bike without that mod ?? Of course you can but it is an improvement if you choose to follow the advice. Does that help their advertisers....sometimes for sure. If you like everything the AMA is doing then don't read Jody's rants about the AMA or YouthStream.

RacerX does an incredible job with Loretta's coverage, person insight stuff, amateur coverage and lifestyle. I think the amateur coverage is the heartbeat of the sport. PLUS.........DC posts here and answers questions for most of you. Where else will you find that ??? UMMM...nowhere.

TransWorld appeals to a different group (I am old) but has some really cool features and some hip industry guys.

Dirt Rider does a great job with the off road stuff and has some very interesting adventure articles.

The point is that they all have a stake in the game and I believe want good things to happen for the sport. They all have a point they want to make or cover.....that is fine. Enjoy the read, think it through and maybe disagree with the point but at least think. Read everything with an eye toward the writers agenda and it all becomes much easier to digest.

Why wouldn't a publication want to help it's advertisers sell products ??
^^ Done. That's it in a nutshell. This should've been the last post in this thread.
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I still like MXA after all these years.

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Hut wrote:
I still like MXA after all these years. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/02/05/Bilde_9_920782.png[/img]
I still like MXA after all these years.

And Jody still uses Yamalube R as mayonnaise.

Good stuff.
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Hut wrote:
I still like MXA after all these years. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/02/05/Bilde_9_920782.png[/img]
I still like MXA after all these years.

JordanB wrote:
And Jody still uses Yamalube R as mayonnaise.

Good stuff.
My guess? Jody will chuckle at that one. Smile
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Hut wrote:
I still like MXA after all these years. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/02/05/Bilde_9_920782.png[/img]
I still like MXA after all these years.

JordanB wrote:
And Jody still uses Yamalube R as mayonnaise.

Good stuff.
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5/12/2014 7:33pm
MXA has always been the best mx mag. I let all my subscriptions to the other mags run out.
I think their in depth bike tests and product evaluations are better than the rest. I believe
they speak the truth and it offends people. I don't care about freestyle and race coverage because of
the the internet. Jody is a scholar of mx and mxa has the best test riders. Mxa also seems to have more knowledge
about bike maintenance and repair. I love hot chicks but thats not going to make me buy a worthless mag.
Mxa sets the standard imo and is my mx bible. I've been reading mxa since '76.
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I started seeing Jody's Box columns getting recycled and that made me lose some respect. Meanwhile the upstart Basher can't even get a legitimate full page column but is instead relegated to a half page in the "DIRT" section. The critical test reports can be entertaining but that doesn't necessarily make them accurate. Rick Siemen once stated that Jody was the one who used to write the "On the Mainjet" column purportedly written by the publisher Roland Hinz (the column was removed from the magazine several years ago). That made me further lose some respect for the magazine.

Jody is in his late 60s and I would guess that the Publisher Roland Hinz is at least that old if not older. I'm really curious how things will evolve over there in the coming years. Will Basher, Stapleton and Ecklund make it more contemporary or continue to cater to the "mature" crowd? Is the wrecking crew taking resumes? Should be interesting as Jody breaks the seven decade mark and moves further away from the action sport demographic.

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