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PEDs are often discussed, but rarely with any detail.
Lets pool our knowledge in order to bust myths and educate ourselves.
The extent of my limited understand of PEDs in relation to MX is as follows:
1. Ephedrine would be useful for endurance/energy and decreasing fatigue during long motos, though I'm not sure if it's a banned substance.
2. HGH could be useful for a rider to recover from injury and get back to riding/trainer quicker. I believe it causes quicker cell reproduction?? I've read stories of high doses causing jaw enlargement and feet to grow a couple sizes; even the skull can apparently grow. Moreover it can slow the aging process down, maintaining a person's youthful energy, as well as hair color and smooth skin (the reason celebrities use it).
3. EPO gives more oxygen to red blood cells allowing for increased endurance during motos and heart attacks in the future.
Up until now a rider willing to take risks would have been foolish to not use such a beneficial aid.
And of course there's the new cutting edge drugs that the laymen have yet to hear of...
Lets pool our knowledge in order to bust myths and educate ourselves.
The extent of my limited understand of PEDs in relation to MX is as follows:
1. Ephedrine would be useful for endurance/energy and decreasing fatigue during long motos, though I'm not sure if it's a banned substance.
2. HGH could be useful for a rider to recover from injury and get back to riding/trainer quicker. I believe it causes quicker cell reproduction?? I've read stories of high doses causing jaw enlargement and feet to grow a couple sizes; even the skull can apparently grow. Moreover it can slow the aging process down, maintaining a person's youthful energy, as well as hair color and smooth skin (the reason celebrities use it).
3. EPO gives more oxygen to red blood cells allowing for increased endurance during motos and heart attacks in the future.
Up until now a rider willing to take risks would have been foolish to not use such a beneficial aid.
And of course there's the new cutting edge drugs that the laymen have yet to hear of...
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especially if they test on raceday.
Caffeine in the blood say if you took 1,000 mgs or so would fail you if tested at the right time. Piss or blood.
I know what I would be doing but its not the usual suspects.
Think women athletes and gymnasts.
That shits a bit dangerous.
Plus if you cant last an hour youre simply not doing your job.
Ephedrine is a bronchodilator and absolutely increases your cardiovascular capacity... Why do you think it was used for so long as a fat burner combined with caffeine.
200mg Caffeine with up to 25mg Ephedrine and you will be able do more cardio longer and faster than without. It also raises your core temperature and make you sweat your ass off. Better drink 1 to 2 gallons of water a day with it or risk dehydration like all those dumb asses in the late 90's that dropped dead when taking it.
But you can't say that here........because there are so many people that never tried ( I mean really , really tried ) to push themselves to the limits in training and fitness. Never mind the practice on the bike. You could be an awesome rider....but if you're in terrible shape....it isn't going to matter.
I'll end it with.....there are 100's if not 1000's of extreme athletes out there on this planet that put our riders to shame in the " In shape dept ".......and a lot of those don't need to use PED's to do it.
Call me naive.....I call you fucking lazy because you never tried hard enough. Flame away.......
1990 to Y2K PED's
EPO can be dangerous but I would think only after prolonged use. Your heart has to work harder because the blood with be thicker with more red blood cells but there will be signs first. These guys could get echo cardiograms whenever they want to monitor heart wall thickness and all these things to make sure everything is working right. The heart walls with thicken up if its being overworked for too long. I would think chest pain would start before this.
EPO can increase max power output but mostly its going to increase time to exhaustion at a given power output (approx. 50%) according to this article (http://www.sportsscientists.com/2007/11/the-effect-of-epo-on-performanc…)
Thats kinda crazy when you think about it, if you can go out and sprint for 20 minutes this shit will bump you up too 30 min at the same pace. That sounds like a nice advantage to me
Caffeine and Ephedrine is child's play, or for fat asses trying to lose weight haha
You mentioned testosterone, I've alway thought it helped once natural levels drop with age, is it really of much help for a guy in his mid-twenties?
Pit Row
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azzhD2QJ8B0
Sheds a lot of light on all the sports and olympic doping going on these days , long but interesting
Nice.
and with a few corrupt scientists...
https://youtu.be/PbAmh7hfaBM?feature=player_detailpage
Blood doping is the practice of boosting the number of red blood cells in the bloodstream in order to enhance athletic performance. Because such blood cells carry oxygen from the lungs to the muscles, a higher concentration in the blood can improve an athlete’s aerobic capacity (VO2 max) and endurance.
The upside is you don't age as quickly, can train/recover like a madman but the downside is you better have deep pockets plus once you start taking it your body stops reducing how much of it's own HGH production. There is a period of "being offline" so to speak once someone elects to stop using HGH it takes a bit before the body reboots.
Personally I don't see why anyone would take HGH for SX but for outdoors I can understand the logic that if you could afford it and there wasn't a test for it why not? As a fan I applaud MX Sports efforts and hope their testing will keep the racers coming into the sport from having to go down that route in the quest to be the ultimate MX machine. The sport is expensive enough as it is.
DISCLAIMER: I'm not a lawyer or a doctor or an Indian Chief nor did I spend last evening at a Holiday Inn Express.
most couldnt afford legit hgh even if it was from china in an iu amount per day to act as a ped.
I know athletes spending 1500-10 grand per month just for hgh.. Most in this sport cant afford.
Thats not including the 5-7000 mgs of other AAS they are using per week.
for example an 80 year old man might get a 200 mg shot every 2 weeks in comparison.
Before testing became a big deal...Nandrolones and a few 19 Nors were better for recovery and joint repair. And way more affordable than hgh.
That shit is like castor oil for the joints.
too bad metabolites are detectable for 18 months.
Bvm.....you forgot one component. Aspirin.
For years certain meds were available that worked and being they werent 17 alpha alkylated were less liver toxic than aspirin.
All on the list now.
hell one of the best AAS can be extracted from cattle implants.
You can eat a shitload of them per day bit that gets expensive.
I wonder how adept they are for testing research chemicals.
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