Ryan Villopoto is going to race the Nationals

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2thefront wrote:
None of that was stuff I made up or got from some random vital poster. So how am I making it up? Maybe you should be...
None of that was stuff I made up or got from some random vital poster. So how am I making it up? Maybe you should be more angry at the people reporting it if you know it to be false instead of me?
Remember the part earlier, where I said, I give up? I think I'll be much more productive if I wasting time quit arguing with you tonight.
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4/26/2014 10:48pm
2thefront wrote:
None of that was stuff I made up or got from some random vital poster. So how am I making it up? Maybe you should be...
None of that was stuff I made up or got from some random vital poster. So how am I making it up? Maybe you should be more angry at the people reporting it if you know it to be false instead of me?
GuyB wrote:
Remember the part earlier, where I said, I give up? I think I'll be much more productive if I wasting time quit arguing with you tonight.
Whatever you want, I just don't know why you're accusing me of making stuff up that has been reported by people in the industry that, like you, are credible. Maybe they're wrong. Who knows, I'm just not seeing what your problem with me is.
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2thefront wrote:
None of that was stuff I made up or got from some random vital poster. So how am I making it up? Maybe you should be...
None of that was stuff I made up or got from some random vital poster. So how am I making it up? Maybe you should be more angry at the people reporting it if you know it to be false instead of me?
GuyB wrote:
Remember the part earlier, where I said, I give up? I think I'll be much more productive if I wasting time quit arguing with you tonight.
2thefront wrote:
Whatever you want, I just don't know why you're accusing me of making stuff up that has been reported by people in the industry that, like...
Whatever you want, I just don't know why you're accusing me of making stuff up that has been reported by people in the industry that, like you, are credible. Maybe they're wrong. Who knows, I'm just not seeing what your problem with me is.
It's NOT that your making stuff up......you confusing " Your opinion " and trying to state them as fact.

Example : When Stewart said he was going to race the nationals.......I think he wanted to , and hoped to , but a lot of behind the scene stuff kept him from doing so. You are also comparing 2 completely different riders here.

Every single rider out there has his own obligations to the sport. Weather it be family , sponsors , team , ect.....every single one of them have a different set of rules and obligations put in front of them.

For RV.....it was up in the air I believe. But it seems those obligations and obstacles got ironed out.....and now he's committed on running the nationals. I would say after tonight.....there is a 99.9% chance were going to see RV on the gate at GH.
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4/26/2014 11:35pm Edited Date/Time 4/27/2014 12:55am
GuyB wrote:
Remember the part earlier, where I said, I give up? I think I'll be much more productive if I wasting time quit arguing with you tonight.
2thefront wrote:
Whatever you want, I just don't know why you're accusing me of making stuff up that has been reported by people in the industry that, like...
Whatever you want, I just don't know why you're accusing me of making stuff up that has been reported by people in the industry that, like you, are credible. Maybe they're wrong. Who knows, I'm just not seeing what your problem with me is.
jeffro503 wrote:
It's NOT that your making stuff up......you confusing " Your opinion " and trying to state them as fact. Example : When Stewart said he was...
It's NOT that your making stuff up......you confusing " Your opinion " and trying to state them as fact.

Example : When Stewart said he was going to race the nationals.......I think he wanted to , and hoped to , but a lot of behind the scene stuff kept him from doing so. You are also comparing 2 completely different riders here.

Every single rider out there has his own obligations to the sport. Weather it be family , sponsors , team , ect.....every single one of them have a different set of rules and obligations put in front of them.

For RV.....it was up in the air I believe. But it seems those obligations and obstacles got ironed out.....and now he's committed on running the nationals. I would say after tonight.....there is a 99.9% chance were going to see RV on the gate at GH.
What opinion of mine have I stated as fact??

I said it wouldn't be the first time a rider said "as of now" they planned to race the nationals. That was Stewart and I agree with everything you said about him wanting to and not being able to. I also clearly said that they were different situations as Stew's team did not traditionally run the outdoors. So where did I state my opinion as fact?

It very well could be that RV got all the stuff that was going to prevent him from racing the nationals ironed out and he's going racing. I have absolutely never discounted that or stated it as a fact he wasn't going to. I have stated that people who report on the sport for a living and are close to him were pretty sure (99.9%) that he wasn't racing. Not my opinion. Theirs. So again, how am I making stuff up or presenting my opinion as fact? The only thing I stated as my opinion is I wasn't sure who was right yet. Time will tell.

I just listened to his post race interview with Matthes where he said he would be at Glen Helen(he hesitated to say he would be there to race although I think he was just messing with Matthes). Maybe he will be and maybe he won't. The odds are certainly looking better that he will.

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4/26/2014 11:39pm
I hope you get 'clicked' just for the hell of it.
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GuyB wrote:
Now RV will laugh at you guys more than he already does.
Did you think to ask him why he never addressed the rumors until now? I'm glad I'm not a betting man, because I would have just...
Did you think to ask him why he never addressed the rumors until now?

I'm glad I'm not a betting man, because I would have just lost $500. Cheerful
Me too, I'm glad there were no takers on that one...LOL
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4/27/2014 12:10am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2014 12:17am
Guyb, I might be imagining things, but I get this feeling that you favor RV over Stew, and their fans too.
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Guyb, I might be imagining things, but I get this feeling that you favor RV over Stew, and their fans too.
If you are considered a maniac fan of one specific rider.....I could see how your opinion might be viewed skewed. Hard core fans of ANY rider , think for some reason if you don't put "That specific " rider up on a pedestal......you must hate the guy.

I root for RV mainly because he's my hometown / local kid that I've been watching race since he was little. Same with Josh hill ( used to race is dad a lot ). But because I don't root for James , or Chad , or RD , ect to beat RV.....it means I hate them all and wish them a miserable death.

THAT......is a fact on this board. You can't post truthful shit.....because in someone elses twisted mind.....it isn't the truth.
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Dungey's gonna kick his dog when he gets home...
And yet you're woman would still leave you in a second for Dungey.
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Guyb, I might be imagining things, but I get this feeling that you favor RV over Stew, and their fans too.
You're imagining things.
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4/27/2014 5:22am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2014 5:25am
Didn't this RV is not racing the nationals story start around the time of the seattle SX with a poster from Washington saying he heard from a guy that knows RV really well say he was over it all and there was some 'issues' going on?
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What I don't get is, the first 1/2 of the series, RV isn't riding all that great and then he injures his knee and starts killing everyone! WeirdBlink
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2thefront wrote:
What opinion of mine have I stated as fact?? I said it wouldn't be the first time a rider said "as of now" they planned to...
What opinion of mine have I stated as fact??

I said it wouldn't be the first time a rider said "as of now" they planned to race the nationals. That was Stewart and I agree with everything you said about him wanting to and not being able to. I also clearly said that they were different situations as Stew's team did not traditionally run the outdoors. So where did I state my opinion as fact?

It very well could be that RV got all the stuff that was going to prevent him from racing the nationals ironed out and he's going racing. I have absolutely never discounted that or stated it as a fact he wasn't going to. I have stated that people who report on the sport for a living and are close to him were pretty sure (99.9%) that he wasn't racing. Not my opinion. Theirs. So again, how am I making stuff up or presenting my opinion as fact? The only thing I stated as my opinion is I wasn't sure who was right yet. Time will tell.

I just listened to his post race interview with Matthes where he said he would be at Glen Helen(he hesitated to say he would be there to race although I think he was just messing with Matthes). Maybe he will be and maybe he won't. The odds are certainly looking better that he will.
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Sully22 wrote:
Didn't this RV is not racing the nationals story start around the time of the seattle SX with a poster from Washington saying he heard from...
Didn't this RV is not racing the nationals story start around the time of the seattle SX with a poster from Washington saying he heard from a guy that knows RV really well say he was over it all and there was some 'issues' going on?
No. It started with Pulpmx show.
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Sully22 wrote:
Didn't this RV is not racing the nationals story start around the time of the seattle SX with a poster from Washington saying he heard from...
Didn't this RV is not racing the nationals story start around the time of the seattle SX with a poster from Washington saying he heard from a guy that knows RV really well say he was over it all and there was some 'issues' going on?
From Matthes' and JT$s credible sources!Whistling
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4/27/2014 7:14am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2014 7:19am
Sully22 wrote:
Didn't this RV is not racing the nationals story start around the time of the seattle SX with a poster from Washington saying he heard from...
Didn't this RV is not racing the nationals story start around the time of the seattle SX with a poster from Washington saying he heard from a guy that knows RV really well say he was over it all and there was some 'issues' going on?
kongols wrote:
No. It started with Pulpmx show.
Right, I understand that....I should have been clearer as I was talking about RV bringing up the vitalmx stuff to guyb in that exchange with cox, guyb, and weedge...in that same thread where it was brought up that Matthes said he wasn't racing. there was a guy on here (pilotdude) saying he heard from a guy that spoke with RV for hours at Seattle and went on and on about all the reasons he wasn't going to ride outdoors.

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Villopoto-missing-outdoor…
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4/27/2014 7:21am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2014 7:23am
RV also realizes that there are no repercussions for saying "yes" to the nationals today, and "no" tomorrow. His conversations with the team and sponsors are not public information, and when asked closed-ended questions, he's only required to deliver yes/no responses.

Small, niche-oriented sports like SX/MX do not have media obligations like major franchises or leagues. Therefore, athletes have much greater autonomy in how they deal with journalists. Moments before the interview Ryan had wrapped up his fourth SX title, likely meeting his 2014 commitments to Kawasaki, Monster, etc. By telling the media he'll be at Glen Helen alleviates the need for a protracted interview, versus the firestorm that erupts if he says the opposite.
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4/27/2014 8:21am
2thefront wrote:
What am I making up?
GuyB wrote:
Everything from the word maybe on?
2thefront wrote:
None of that was stuff I made up or got from some random vital poster. So how am I making it up? Maybe you should be...
None of that was stuff I made up or got from some random vital poster. So how am I making it up? Maybe you should be more angry at the people reporting it if you know it to be false instead of me?
You're carrying on like an idiot bro
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jonjon714 wrote:
Dungey's gonna kick his dog when he gets home...
rebus wrote:
And yet you're woman would still leave you in a second for Dungey.
Yeah...like I'm that lucky.
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Sounds like maybe he got what he wanted.
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2thefront, I understand, somewhat what you're trying to say, but you have to understand how silly it is to continually debate a topic about a rider based on what others have said when the most recent update on the topic comes directly from that rider and completely contradicts what you and they are saying.
As of right now RV IS racing outdoors. Sure he may back out later if he further aggravates something, injures something else, gets deathly ill, has a loss in the family, gets an anonymous donation of $20 million from all of his competition at the end of the nationals as long as he doesn't show up, etc.
Of course something could happen, but you have to understand how ridiculous it is to question it so much when at this point in time, right now, the most credible bit of information about RV's status is directly from RV himself saying he will be there.
Save the what ifs for when they're necessary.
What if giant meteors come down on very track in the series? Then there won't even be a series! OMG!!! HAS EVERYONE HEARD? THERE MAY NOT BE AN OUTDOOR SERIES THIS YEAR!!!
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Only on Vital will a guy say point blank that he's racing the Nationals (and has a track record of doing what he says), and some people will still doubt if he will race the Nationals.
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2thefront wrote:
Must've seen James grabbing his knee...Laughing
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Now RV will laugh at you guys more than he already does.
He's laughing at you.
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4/27/2014 10:24am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2014 10:24am
2thefront wrote:
What am I making up?
GuyB wrote:
Everything from the word maybe on?
2thefront wrote:
None of that was stuff I made up or got from some random vital poster. So how am I making it up? Maybe you should be...
None of that was stuff I made up or got from some random vital poster. So how am I making it up? Maybe you should be more angry at the people reporting it if you know it to be false instead of me?
Let it go bro...GuyB has you covered.
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4/27/2014 10:33am
He's laughing at you.
I was there. Yeah, not really.
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4/27/2014 10:41am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2014 10:42am
He's laughing at you.
GuyB wrote:
I was there. Yeah, not really.
You threw members of this forum under the bus for something mx media( you`re one of them) started. Pretty shitty thing to do.
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He's laughing at you.
GuyB wrote:
I was there. Yeah, not really.
Oh I'm sure if RV was gonna invite somebody to have a beer with him Vitals #1 Master Deleter would be at the top of the listTongue

I'm sure RV reads this forum as all of them do. I bet secretly he gets a real kick out of all of us speculating and having fun about this or that. Then he sees your "Mr. Know It All" post and like a Debbie Downer you quickly and efficiently bring all the fun to a screeching halt. Dude let stuff run a little. Who cares... Post less.

Remember less is more from the mods.

Seriously
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4/27/2014 11:19am
I just feel sorry for Pilotdude, he had it on good authority...
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I just feel sorry for Pilotdude, he had it on good authority...
Was he his authori...tie

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