Davalos Hurt?

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BobbyM 4/23/2014 2:09pm
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RedDirtDog wrote:
That sucks man really suprised he broke a chain, I almost dont see how its possible unless it was off on adjustments but I dont see...
That sucks man really suprised he broke a chain, I almost dont see how its possible unless it was off on adjustments but I dont see that happening to a pc bike or any pros bikes especially if it wasn't the master link. the one and only time I remeber anything chain related was dungeys rmz450 southwick? even that one it just popped off the rear sprocket, didnt he put it back on and finish the race too?
Sabatage? What kind of insurance does he have? Wink
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RedDirtDog wrote:
That sucks man really suprised he broke a chain, I almost dont see how its possible unless it was off on adjustments but I dont see...
That sucks man really suprised he broke a chain, I almost dont see how its possible unless it was off on adjustments but I dont see that happening to a pc bike or any pros bikes especially if it wasn't the master link. the one and only time I remeber anything chain related was dungeys rmz450 southwick? even that one it just popped off the rear sprocket, didnt he put it back on and finish the race too?
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Sabatage? What kind of insurance does he have? Wink
ben townleys chain broke/came off his procircuit bike at the vegas supercross as well...
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Sucks for Davalos, I hope he's able to ride through it, he has worked really hard to get to this point....he needs this championship!


I wonder what Bogle is thinking right now?
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Sucks for Davalos, I hope he's able to ride through it, he has worked really hard to get to this point....he needs this championship! I wonder...
Sucks for Davalos, I hope he's able to ride through it, he has worked really hard to get to this point....he needs this championship!


I wonder what Bogle is thinking right now?
Probably thinking "stay the fuck away from Wilson". haha

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48dirtbikekid 4/23/2014 3:27pm
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burnside wrote:
Probably thinking "stay the fuck away from Wilson". haha
Wilson's west coast
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bartoner wrote:
Sucks for Davalos, I hope he's able to ride through it, he has worked really hard to get to this point....he needs this championship! I wonder...
Sucks for Davalos, I hope he's able to ride through it, he has worked really hard to get to this point....he needs this championship!


I wonder what Bogle is thinking right now?
Bogle is thinking how he's going to spend a million bucks! lol

Has there been any confirmation on Davalos being broken?
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rrjr 4/23/2014 4:03pm
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Yes, I believe so. Because in 2 of the last 3 years he didn't even score over 100 points.. I was checking more on Bogle, 'cause...
Yes, I believe so. Because in 2 of the last 3 years he didn't even score over 100 points.. I was checking more on Bogle, 'cause it's guys like him, who are injured and don't do much for two years, then win a Championship in the 3rd year that get screwed. But, I think Bogle only scored points in 2012.
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Believe it or not. Even though Davalos has been in the 250 class for 9 years, this year is the 1st year that he has scored...
Believe it or not. Even though Davalos has been in the 250 class for 9 years, this year is the 1st year that he has scored enough points to count towards being kicked up to the big bikes.

A rider can race in the 250 class for as long as he likes until he scores more than the allowed point total for 3 years. The cut off year is 2007 to the present.

Effective with the 2007 season points, riders earning at least 135 250 SX Championship points in an nine race season, 120 250 SX Championship points in an eight race season, or 105 250 SX Championship points in a seven race season, in three
seasons of 250 SX competition will be ineligible for the 250 SX class
DanDunes818 wrote:
That is true, BUT if he wins title he will be bumped. Otherwise your're correct, he can stay down. Last time I interviewed Martin he sounded...
That is true, BUT if he wins title he will be bumped. Otherwise your're correct, he can stay down. Last time I interviewed Martin he sounded pumped about possibly moving up. He said he's always felt good on 450 and his (I think he finished 4th) Monster Cup result on the Suzuki 450 showed he's capable on the big bike. I don't blame him for not moving up, though. His choices have always been to either ride the 250 on a great team for good money or ride the 450 class on mediocre equipment and not make much money. I think it's stupid for people to fault him for what seems like an obvious choice.
Not quite correct. Regardless if Davalos wins the title this year he can still race in 250 sx next year. The rule states that a person can race in the 250 class until they exceed the point limit 3 years. It doesn't matter if it takes someone 15 seasons to have 3 good years that they exceeded the point limit.

Even if Martin does somehow manage to win the title this year, he can return next year to defend his title because even after 9 seasons in the 250 class, this year is the 1st time he has exceeded the point limit. Thus, Martin has 2 years remaining out of the 3 years you're allowed to exceed the point limit.

Martin could race in the 250 class until he retires as long as he doesn't exceed the point limit 2 more times.

There really should be an age limit rule for the 250 class to keep this situation from happening.
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rrjr wrote:
Not quite correct. Regardless if Davalos wins the title this year he can still race in 250 sx next year. The rule states that a person...
Not quite correct. Regardless if Davalos wins the title this year he can still race in 250 sx next year. The rule states that a person can race in the 250 class until they exceed the point limit 3 years. It doesn't matter if it takes someone 15 seasons to have 3 good years that they exceeded the point limit.

Even if Martin does somehow manage to win the title this year, he can return next year to defend his title because even after 9 seasons in the 250 class, this year is the 1st time he has exceeded the point limit. Thus, Martin has 2 years remaining out of the 3 years you're allowed to exceed the point limit.

Martin could race in the 250 class until he retires as long as he doesn't exceed the point limit 2 more times.

There really should be an age limit rule for the 250 class to keep this situation from happening.
You want an age limit? A f....ing age limit? That's working out real well in the GP's.
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IceMan446 4/23/2014 4:32pm
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rrjr wrote:
Not quite correct. Regardless if Davalos wins the title this year he can still race in 250 sx next year. The rule states that a person...
Not quite correct. Regardless if Davalos wins the title this year he can still race in 250 sx next year. The rule states that a person can race in the 250 class until they exceed the point limit 3 years. It doesn't matter if it takes someone 15 seasons to have 3 good years that they exceeded the point limit.

Even if Martin does somehow manage to win the title this year, he can return next year to defend his title because even after 9 seasons in the 250 class, this year is the 1st time he has exceeded the point limit. Thus, Martin has 2 years remaining out of the 3 years you're allowed to exceed the point limit.

Martin could race in the 250 class until he retires as long as he doesn't exceed the point limit 2 more times.

There really should be an age limit rule for the 250 class to keep this situation from happening.
They talked about Bagget skipping out to save him from getting bumped next year.

There are ways around it.
StartedTooLate 4/23/2014 4:56pm
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jevyguy wrote:
Interesting... All I know is that I heard Kenny Waston on pulpmx say that they riveted chains when he was a mechanic just to take out...
Interesting... All I know is that I heard Kenny Waston on pulpmx say that they riveted chains when he was a mechanic just to take out the possibility of the master link clip coming off. He made it sound like everyone else did it too.
Well...Watson would certainly know. In that DID / Honda vid...you can see a clip link on Trey's practice bike at 1:19. If Berluti is in studio on PumpMX this week...someone should ask him if they do it different on practice bikes vs event bikes. Keep in mind that many riders get practice bikes...but then have a practice bike mechanic, so the program may different between race bikes and practice bikes.

Personally, I have no worries about DID ERT2 clip links. I use them on my own bike...but I do not re-use them more than a few times. At $5 a pop...I just order a dozen at a time. I love that with clip link pliers, I can take the chain off in 10s...and dump it in the automatic parts washer...and 30 minutes later I have a clean as new chain. I think being able to keep the chain super clean makes it last longer. With rivet links...they are such a pain to take on and off...you never clean your chain properly.
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hillbilly 4/23/2014 5:31pm
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bartoner wrote:
Sucks for Davalos, I hope he's able to ride through it, he has worked really hard to get to this point....he needs this championship! I wonder...
Sucks for Davalos, I hope he's able to ride through it, he has worked really hard to get to this point....he needs this championship!


I wonder what Bogle is thinking right now?
Ride thru broken ankles?
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hillbilly wrote:
Ride thru broken ankles?
MD must think it's a wait and see possibility. According to his FB page.
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rrjr wrote:
Not quite correct. Regardless if Davalos wins the title this year he can still race in 250 sx next year. The rule states that a person...
Not quite correct. Regardless if Davalos wins the title this year he can still race in 250 sx next year. The rule states that a person can race in the 250 class until they exceed the point limit 3 years. It doesn't matter if it takes someone 15 seasons to have 3 good years that they exceeded the point limit.

Even if Martin does somehow manage to win the title this year, he can return next year to defend his title because even after 9 seasons in the 250 class, this year is the 1st time he has exceeded the point limit. Thus, Martin has 2 years remaining out of the 3 years you're allowed to exceed the point limit.

Martin could race in the 250 class until he retires as long as he doesn't exceed the point limit 2 more times.

There really should be an age limit rule for the 250 class to keep this situation from happening.
If you've raced a 250f for three seasons in SX or more you get bumped up no matter what. That's what happened to Tickle. Davalos has been on the 250f for 9 years so if he wins this title then hes onto the 450 next year, at least for SX.
DanDunes818 4/23/2014 6:01pm
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rrjr wrote:
Believe it or not. Even though Davalos has been in the 250 class for 9 years, this year is the 1st year that he has scored...
Believe it or not. Even though Davalos has been in the 250 class for 9 years, this year is the 1st year that he has scored enough points to count towards being kicked up to the big bikes.

A rider can race in the 250 class for as long as he likes until he scores more than the allowed point total for 3 years. The cut off year is 2007 to the present.

Effective with the 2007 season points, riders earning at least 135 250 SX Championship points in an nine race season, 120 250 SX Championship points in an eight race season, or 105 250 SX Championship points in a seven race season, in three
seasons of 250 SX competition will be ineligible for the 250 SX class
DanDunes818 wrote:
That is true, BUT if he wins title he will be bumped. Otherwise your're correct, he can stay down. Last time I interviewed Martin he sounded...
That is true, BUT if he wins title he will be bumped. Otherwise your're correct, he can stay down. Last time I interviewed Martin he sounded pumped about possibly moving up. He said he's always felt good on 450 and his (I think he finished 4th) Monster Cup result on the Suzuki 450 showed he's capable on the big bike. I don't blame him for not moving up, though. His choices have always been to either ride the 250 on a great team for good money or ride the 450 class on mediocre equipment and not make much money. I think it's stupid for people to fault him for what seems like an obvious choice.
rrjr wrote:
Not quite correct. Regardless if Davalos wins the title this year he can still race in 250 sx next year. The rule states that a person...
Not quite correct. Regardless if Davalos wins the title this year he can still race in 250 sx next year. The rule states that a person can race in the 250 class until they exceed the point limit 3 years. It doesn't matter if it takes someone 15 seasons to have 3 good years that they exceeded the point limit.

Even if Martin does somehow manage to win the title this year, he can return next year to defend his title because even after 9 seasons in the 250 class, this year is the 1st time he has exceeded the point limit. Thus, Martin has 2 years remaining out of the 3 years you're allowed to exceed the point limit.

Martin could race in the 250 class until he retires as long as he doesn't exceed the point limit 2 more times.

There really should be an age limit rule for the 250 class to keep this situation from happening.
Wrong..

Here is the rule directly from 2014 AMA Supercross Rulebook. 5.2 e 2

2. A rider that wins a 250SX Championship will be eligible to
participate in the 250SX class for a maximum of three years
total regardless of what year he/she won the title. (i.e. if a
rider wins the Championship in their third year of 250SX
competition, they will be ineligible for the 250SX class
regardless of points and therefore not eligible to defend their
250SX Championship title)

In other words, if you scored 2 points in 2012, 1 point in 2013 and won the Championship in 2014, the rider will "not eligible to defend their 250SX Championship title"

Martin would have to move up, just like Broc Tickle and Wil Hahn before him that did not score the required points three years in a row, but won a Championship after being in the 250SX class 3+ years. Luckily for Bogle he only scored points in one season so far.
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jevyguy 4/23/2014 6:11pm
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bartoner wrote:
Sucks for Davalos, I hope he's able to ride through it, he has worked really hard to get to this point....he needs this championship! I wonder...
Sucks for Davalos, I hope he's able to ride through it, he has worked really hard to get to this point....he needs this championship!


I wonder what Bogle is thinking right now?
burnside wrote:
Probably thinking "stay the fuck away from Wilson". haha
Wilson is West coast, Bogle is East. Did you mean Baggett?
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hillbilly 4/24/2014 3:44am
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Ride thru broken ankles?
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MD must think it's a wait and see possibility. According to his FB page.
Well then his ankles aren't broke then, there is no way you do sx with 2 broke ankles,one maybe,

I hope he can race,the guy deserves this title for the way he has charged ever race ever lap.
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http://racerxonline.com/2014/04/24/davalos-update

Earlier in the week, Racer X learned that Martin Davalos went down in a crash at Milestone in California. A reliable source had told us that the Monster Energy Pro Circuit Kawasaki rider has fractured both ankles and maybe also have fractures in his feet, which leaves his status as doubtful for the final two rounds of Monster Energy Supercross. Obviously, this is a huge bummer for everyone involved.

There is a press conference scheduled at Met Life Stadium today featuring the top 450SX riders, but we'll try to get more information on the 250SX East points leader when we can.
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Just saw the RacerX update. That's just a snapshot of his whole career. Soooo close.

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bartoner 4/24/2014 7:38am
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bartoner wrote:
Sucks for Davalos, I hope he's able to ride through it, he has worked really hard to get to this point....he needs this championship! I wonder...
Sucks for Davalos, I hope he's able to ride through it, he has worked really hard to get to this point....he needs this championship!


I wonder what Bogle is thinking right now?
hillbilly wrote:
Ride thru broken ankles?
At the time i posted that, nothing was confirmed that anything was broken, just a bunch of hearsay...i didn't see a "stamp it" anywhere.... Wink

now that it looks to be true....bummer for MD....but hey, I like Bogle he is a cool dude....hes got Dungey'itis, ride around consistently in third place and wait for everyone in front to crash out....Wink
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Sandberm 4/24/2014 7:39am
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Edit.

I dont know why when I went to sxonline and went to retreive the EXPANDED points it isnt current but the little summarry points is.

Oh well forget it
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Sandberm wrote:
Edit. I dont know why when I went to sxonline and went to retreive the EXPANDED points it isnt current but the little summarry points is...
Edit.

I dont know why when I went to sxonline and went to retreive the EXPANDED points it isnt current but the little summarry points is.

Oh well forget it
Those are not the correct points. MD has 149 to Bogles 141
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Sandberm 4/24/2014 8:15am
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Sandberm wrote:
Edit. I dont know why when I went to sxonline and went to retreive the EXPANDED points it isnt current but the little summarry points is...
Edit.

I dont know why when I went to sxonline and went to retreive the EXPANDED points it isnt current but the little summarry points is.

Oh well forget it
Juss wrote:
Those are not the correct points. MD has 149 to Bogles 141
Yes Im wrong, didnt see that what I was looking at wasnt current. Thanks for pointing that out Juss.Blush
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We are very sorry to hear about Martin Davalos' injury today. Unfortunately we don't know all particulars at this time as Pro Circuit is still investigating the incident and we haven't had a chance to inspect Davalos' chain, sprockets and connecting link. We will keep everyone posted on the results of the tests.

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