Steve Matthes "Observations" Article on Racer X (Silly Season)

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Edited Date/Time 3/7/2014 2:46pm
Steve mentions that he's heard these rumors from credible sources that

-Roczen going to RCH and keeping Redbull as sponsor

-Barcia to JGR

-Dean Wilson to Factory KTM

-Brayton to partner up at Kawasaki with Weimer (Personally I don't see Kawi resigning Weimer and I hope they go after somebody else rather than Brayton. They have Wilson and Baggett both ready to move up to the 450. I'd rather see Wilson stay with Kawi, or maybe try to combine the salary they would have spent on Brayton and Weimer, then try to pry Eli away from his rider option at Geico)

What do you guys think?
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3/4/2014 9:31am
I hope Brayton sticks with yamaha. And I hope Yamaha gets some more big name guys.
3/4/2014 9:35am
That's interesting.

I can see Roczen to RCH with Redbull - that makes some sense to me.

Barcia wanting off the Honda makes sense, but I'd be surprised to see him go to the Yamaha.

I could see Deano at KTM - seems like the type of kid Roger would want.

I'd love to see Brayton at Kawasaki - he deserves a shot, and it's time for Weimer to get off the wagon and give someone else a try. Wilson makes sense too although I doubt they could meet on money. And I don't think the combined salary of Brayton/Weimer would pay for Eli, nor do I believe they'd keep Brayton and Weimer either.
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3/4/2014 9:41am
shredder22 wrote:
Steve mentions that he's heard these rumors from credible sources that -Roczen going to RCH and keeping Redbull as sponsor -Barcia to JGR -Dean Wilson to...
Steve mentions that he's heard these rumors from credible sources that

-Roczen going to RCH and keeping Redbull as sponsor

-Barcia to JGR

-Dean Wilson to Factory KTM

-Brayton to partner up at Kawasaki with Weimer (Personally I don't see Kawi resigning Weimer and I hope they go after somebody else rather than Brayton. They have Wilson and Baggett both ready to move up to the 450. I'd rather see Wilson stay with Kawi, or maybe try to combine the salary they would have spent on Brayton and Weimer, then try to pry Eli away from his rider option at Geico)

What do you guys think?
At what point does Matthes' stuff end, and yours start? It's a little confusing.
3/4/2014 9:41am
I think it's not the 1st time I've been totally wrong about something. Other than that I can't wait, change is good.... sometimes!

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3/4/2014 9:48am
lol..why would kawi resign weimer?? RV will be here one more season
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3/4/2014 9:52am
The real question is, who the HELL is going to be on Suzuki's all new RMZ250 in 2015? Will they start a new team? Will Yoshi take on 250 guys (doubt it).. Will one of the current 250 teams switch to yellow?
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3/4/2014 9:53am
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lol..why would kawi resign weimer?? RV will be here one more season
Because his salary is low, and/or because he is a good set-up test rider, perhaps?

A lot of people fail to understand that some rider signings aren't for their championship prowess, but for their set-up prowess. James Stewart hasn't exactly been the same rider since Tim Ferry retired, for example.
3/4/2014 9:58am
I don't have anything personal against Deano but I just don't see how he could pull off a factory ride next year.
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12 Pack wrote:
The real question is, who the HELL is going to be on Suzuki's all new RMZ250 in 2015? Will they start a new team? Will Yoshi...
The real question is, who the HELL is going to be on Suzuki's all new RMZ250 in 2015? Will they start a new team? Will Yoshi take on 250 guys (doubt it).. Will one of the current 250 teams switch to yellow?
Suzuki needs to do something? I only remember seeing one Suzuki in the night show on the west coast. Someone posted on our local board that there was not a single RMZ250 in the night show at Atlanta Not sure if that's true or not but it's not raining yellow in the 250 class...
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3/4/2014 10:18am
There been talk Suzuki coming out all new RMZ serie for 2015. Anyone have info about that.. could pull some fast riders if Suzuki gives more help to Yoshi team?
3/4/2014 10:22am
If suzuki needs a warm body in the 250's I could bring my 97 rm250 out lol. Suzuki will have to buy me a new set of clutch plates though. I can guarantee a return on investment if they're will to spend $65 on my bike.
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3/4/2014 10:26am
I don't have anything personal against Deano but I just don't see how he could pull off a factory ride next year.
He is a past national champion who has been in contention all year?
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3/4/2014 10:29am
I wouldn;t beleive Mathes if the factory teams where standing behind him saying he is right. He shows way to many favorites to even take seriously.

Kenny to Suzuki and Red Bull - didn;t he have this combo in the GP's so this sounds like a good fit.

I can see J Mart (250) probably going to RCH as well as Dungey. RCH has the money, ala trying to get Reed for 2 mill and both train at Carmichaels right now. I think Dungey wants Suzuki over Decoster at this point and J Martin grew up on Suzuki. And even though I like Yamaha, he seems not to be a smooth as his Suzuki days.

Wilson will either be on Factory Kawasaki or Reeds team, my personal guess is Reeds team as a second rider and their primary for 2016.

Weimer will be sattelite team at best.

Brayton will stay at JGR and I would love to see them get Barcia, however, it will be tough for 51 to leave Honda, he was born on them.

Hill will be walking and Tickle may stay on as "maybe" 4th rider with Dungey and J Mart but could see him moving on, no clue as to where.

IMO:

Honda : they will be lucky to get a good rider and may pray to keep Canard with another rider if possible

Kawasaki : RV and probably either Wilson or someone like a Tickle, Weimer will be gone.

JGR : Probably Brayton and hopefully Barcia with Nicoletti doing the same thing

Yosh : Stewart and Peick

RCH : Roczen (450), Dungey (450), J Martin (250) and maybe TIckle (450) IF they get the other two, Tickle will be somewhere else

KTM : Musquin, Millsaps, Anderson, Ferris and they will try to replace Dungey with a name, but no idea who.

Just my thoughts and opinions.
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-Brayton to partner up at Kawasaki with Weimer (Personally I don't see Kawi resigning Weimer and I hope they go after somebody else rather than Brayton. They have Wilson and Baggett both ready to move up to the 450. I'd rather see Wilson stay with Kawi, or maybe try to combine the salary they would have spent on Brayton and Weimer, then try to pry Eli away from his rider option at Geico)



Where does this leave RV? He still has a year on his contract. Or are they putting together new team?
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3/4/2014 10:38am
Anything you hear right now is nothing more than Bar talk and a bunch of it will be to cover up or manipulate what is really going to happen.
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3/4/2014 10:39am
Man, I've been calling the Roczen to RCH move since early last year & have been told no way, good to see it is close to coming true.. I think it is a great fit & he'd be comfortable back on the Zook
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3/4/2014 10:43am
500guy wrote:
Anything you hear right now is nothing more than Bar talk and a bunch of it will be to cover up or manipulate what is really...
Anything you hear right now is nothing more than Bar talk and a bunch of it will be to cover up or manipulate what is really going to happen.
Then why are you reading it, the rest of us know how to have a mature quid pro quo conversation, try to keep up!!!!!!
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3/4/2014 10:51am
I would be amazed if Weimer gets a ride at all.
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3/4/2014 10:57am
Sounds like Kawasaki teams Weimer and Brayton for satelite team as Wilson/Roczen/? pairs RV
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3/4/2014 11:03am
TRON wrote:
I hope Brayton sticks with yamaha. And I hope Yamaha gets some more big name guys.
Brayton has looked great on the Yamaha this year...better than most through the whoops. I think he's finally clicking with the new bike, and JGR has the right setup. I'd hate to see him go elsewhere, and like Tron I hope this initiates a second coming of blue!
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3/4/2014 11:05am
Kawi can't even afford to run their factory effort without energy drink support... they aren't starting a "satellite" team.
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MotoX85 wrote:
I wouldn;t beleive Mathes if the factory teams where standing behind him saying he is right. He shows way to many favorites to even take seriously...
I wouldn;t beleive Mathes if the factory teams where standing behind him saying he is right. He shows way to many favorites to even take seriously.

Kenny to Suzuki and Red Bull - didn;t he have this combo in the GP's so this sounds like a good fit.

I can see J Mart (250) probably going to RCH as well as Dungey. RCH has the money, ala trying to get Reed for 2 mill and both train at Carmichaels right now. I think Dungey wants Suzuki over Decoster at this point and J Martin grew up on Suzuki. And even though I like Yamaha, he seems not to be a smooth as his Suzuki days.

Wilson will either be on Factory Kawasaki or Reeds team, my personal guess is Reeds team as a second rider and their primary for 2016.

Weimer will be sattelite team at best.

Brayton will stay at JGR and I would love to see them get Barcia, however, it will be tough for 51 to leave Honda, he was born on them.

Hill will be walking and Tickle may stay on as "maybe" 4th rider with Dungey and J Mart but could see him moving on, no clue as to where.

IMO:

Honda : they will be lucky to get a good rider and may pray to keep Canard with another rider if possible

Kawasaki : RV and probably either Wilson or someone like a Tickle, Weimer will be gone.

JGR : Probably Brayton and hopefully Barcia with Nicoletti doing the same thing

Yosh : Stewart and Peick

RCH : Roczen (450), Dungey (450), J Martin (250) and maybe TIckle (450) IF they get the other two, Tickle will be somewhere else

KTM : Musquin, Millsaps, Anderson, Ferris and they will try to replace Dungey with a name, but no idea who.

Just my thoughts and opinions.
Dungey still has a year left on KTM contract, so he's not going anywhere.
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3/4/2014 11:11am
Kenny leaving KTM would cause a mini-meltdown on these boards. So yeah, kinda hope that shit happens. He would look damn good on a Zook. Smile
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3/4/2014 11:13am
FlaNard wrote:
Kenny leaving KTM would cause a mini-meltdown on these boards. So yeah, kinda hope that shit happens. He would look damn good on a Zook. Smile
I miss him on a Zook. His style was different. I really hope this rumor is true.
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3/4/2014 11:14am Edited Date/Time 3/4/2014 11:15am
One thing to consider is that RV intends to retire in 2015. So does this mean that Kawi tries to move AC up after only 2 seasons for 2016, or do they pick up a fast guy to bridge the gap to AC? Carmichael moved up after only 2 seasons on 125s (indoors, I think he did 3 on 125s outdoors)
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kongols wrote:
I miss him on a Zook. His style was different. I really hope this rumor is true.
because he is doing so poorly on the KTM, he really needs a change
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3/4/2014 11:19am Edited Date/Time 3/4/2014 11:20am
12 Pack wrote:
One thing to consider is that RV intends to retire in 2015. So does this mean that Kawi tries to move AC up after only 2...
One thing to consider is that RV intends to retire in 2015. So does this mean that Kawi tries to move AC up after only 2 seasons for 2016, or do they pick up a fast guy to bridge the gap to AC? Carmichael moved up after only 2 seasons on 125s (indoors, I think he did 3 on 125s outdoors)
I can't see them moving Adam up that quickly. I think the kid is nothing but upside, but throwing him to the wolves too early would hurt him IMO. Let him get there over a couple of years and see what he is capable of. Id like to see if he can get a couple titles on the halfbike first. RC always said he wishes he had stayed on the 125's for one more year.
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3/4/2014 11:19am
MotoX85 wrote:
I wouldn;t beleive Mathes if the factory teams where standing behind him saying he is right. He shows way to many favorites to even take seriously...
I wouldn;t beleive Mathes if the factory teams where standing behind him saying he is right. He shows way to many favorites to even take seriously.

Kenny to Suzuki and Red Bull - didn;t he have this combo in the GP's so this sounds like a good fit.

I can see J Mart (250) probably going to RCH as well as Dungey. RCH has the money, ala trying to get Reed for 2 mill and both train at Carmichaels right now. I think Dungey wants Suzuki over Decoster at this point and J Martin grew up on Suzuki. And even though I like Yamaha, he seems not to be a smooth as his Suzuki days.

Wilson will either be on Factory Kawasaki or Reeds team, my personal guess is Reeds team as a second rider and their primary for 2016.

Weimer will be sattelite team at best.

Brayton will stay at JGR and I would love to see them get Barcia, however, it will be tough for 51 to leave Honda, he was born on them.

Hill will be walking and Tickle may stay on as "maybe" 4th rider with Dungey and J Mart but could see him moving on, no clue as to where.

IMO:

Honda : they will be lucky to get a good rider and may pray to keep Canard with another rider if possible

Kawasaki : RV and probably either Wilson or someone like a Tickle, Weimer will be gone.

JGR : Probably Brayton and hopefully Barcia with Nicoletti doing the same thing

Yosh : Stewart and Peick

RCH : Roczen (450), Dungey (450), J Martin (250) and maybe TIckle (450) IF they get the other two, Tickle will be somewhere else

KTM : Musquin, Millsaps, Anderson, Ferris and they will try to replace Dungey with a name, but no idea who.

Just my thoughts and opinions.
ktm77man wrote:
Dungey still has a year left on KTM contract, so he's not going anywhere.
Yea that was in my mind, but I still bet he tries to leave. He may not be able to but I think he will try.
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3/4/2014 11:21am
kongols wrote:
I miss him on a Zook. His style was different. I really hope this rumor is true.
BobPA wrote:
because he is doing so poorly on the KTM, he really needs a change
It`s not about that.
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12 Pack wrote:
One thing to consider is that RV intends to retire in 2015. So does this mean that Kawi tries to move AC up after only 2...
One thing to consider is that RV intends to retire in 2015. So does this mean that Kawi tries to move AC up after only 2 seasons for 2016, or do they pick up a fast guy to bridge the gap to AC? Carmichael moved up after only 2 seasons on 125s (indoors, I think he did 3 on 125s outdoors)
Heck RV, JS and Reed all have said that 2015 will probably be their last year. That will leave a lot of room for moving around. I would love to see at least one of these guys (RV) if not all go over and try for a GP title before departing. It would be the first time I cheered for Villopoto.

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