James had it

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2/23/2014 7:16pm
Bubba was being Bubba, crashing out by himself. Someone already made the point, that is why he will not win anymore championships.

But in Bubba's defense, I am sure I saw Tony Alessi frantically waving the pit board in the mechanics area. Must have broke the fastest man on the planets concentration and caused him to grab too much front brake. No way it could have been Bubba's fault he wrecked..
2/23/2014 7:18pm
John250 wrote:
Bubba was being Bubba, crashing out by himself. Someone already made the point, that is why he will not win anymore championships. But in Bubba's defense...
Bubba was being Bubba, crashing out by himself. Someone already made the point, that is why he will not win anymore championships.

But in Bubba's defense, I am sure I saw Tony Alessi frantically waving the pit board in the mechanics area. Must have broke the fastest man on the planets concentration and caused him to grab too much front brake. No way it could have been Bubba's fault he wrecked..
It's Yamaha's fault. Brayton made him do it.
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2/23/2014 9:09pm Edited Date/Time 2/23/2014 9:12pm
James has been schooling these fools the past couple of rounds but saying he "had it" in the first lap is a bit premature. Felt so bad for him to take so long to get going again Sad It's like I was sitting there stunned watching the points drop as each rider passed.

Big James "predicted" in the practice stream that he wasn't just going for "three" in a row, there were going for way more than that. With this turn of events winning out may be the only option for his title hopes. That's a tall order, we'll see.
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2/23/2014 9:25pm
James still has it, I don't expect rain in Indy though, I EXPECT A FULL TSUNAMI

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I thought he was the one to beat last night and I still think he has an outside shot at the title.
2/23/2014 11:58pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2014 12:00am
The real area for concern for Yosh was that they appeared to miss the set up as the track dried. James was NOT strong in his heat...and the main looked to be a continuation of the heat. JS7 did not have winning speed at Atlanta.

How many riders posted faster Segment times than James:
Segment 1 - 11
Segment 2 - 7
Segment 3 - 8
Segment 4 - 10

He has some stretches with no traffic...and he did not show the speed from earlier in the day. It reminded me of the old James. Win practice. Miss the set up in the main...over ride the bike. Crash out.

SX is becoming more like other motor sports in that it takes the whole package...rider...AND hitting the set up for a specific track / surface. When they hit the set up...James has race winning speed. When the Kawi team hits the set up...RV has race winning speed. When the teams dont hit the set up...the riders dont win. Even RV and James can not over come set up today.
2/24/2014 2:44am
Guys nothing is Over in this sport until Vegas.yea his crash was shitty, but alotta crazy things can happen from now till then.as fast as he lost the points last night he can gain them back
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2/24/2014 4:34am
John250 wrote:
Bubba was being Bubba, crashing out by himself. Someone already made the point, that is why he will not win anymore championships. But in Bubba's defense...
Bubba was being Bubba, crashing out by himself. Someone already made the point, that is why he will not win anymore championships.

But in Bubba's defense, I am sure I saw Tony Alessi frantically waving the pit board in the mechanics area. Must have broke the fastest man on the planets concentration and caused him to grab too much front brake. No way it could have been Bubba's fault he wrecked..
Wow you just go on as many boards as possible to spread your anti James comments.

He was being bubba? He wrecked in a corner. I think there's been about 50 corner crashes this year. Just so happens it was on the first lap so he got swallowed up by the field. With competition like they have this year, it's hard to come back from that.

Oh and for the record, saying someone broke his concentration does not necessarily blame that person, rather than find the Root Cause for his concentration break... Maybe you just do not understand the situation because you ride 1/3 his speed, so it would never break your concentration...
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2/24/2014 4:46am
James had it.... right up until the point where he didn't have it. Tough race for Stewart. Villopoto taking the "smart Dungey plus a little extra"...
James had it....

right up until the point where he didn't have it.

Tough race for Stewart.

Villopoto taking the "smart Dungey plus a little extra" approach seems to be working at this point.

Hopefully nobody gets injured and they take it to Vegas for the final decision.
"smart Dungey plus a little extra"

Smile I like that, sounds about right.

As for the Stewart crash, has anybody checked the course for boobytraps. Looked like on TV like a small bomb went off or perhaps James got caught up in some barbwire. Maybe the mob got to him and told him he'd be sleeping with the fishes if he didnt do what was told?
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2/24/2014 8:23am
Yep, Kenny seems like a good respectable guy all the way around. RV on the other hand seems like a douche.
RV is def a douche. I saw him turn down a little kid that asked for an autograph this weekend. The AMA should fine him $5000 for being an asshole. Wink
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2/24/2014 8:31am
yzjs7 wrote:
Dang he was on it in the beginning of the race until losing the front end. I bet he would have won the race had that...
Dang he was on it in the beginning of the race until losing the front end. I bet he would have won the race had that not happened. Yes I know it did though, he will be back strong next weekend trust me.
How do you get rid of James unwanted pubic hair?Woohoo You spit them out after the noshing your giving him every weekWink Laughing Laughing
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2/24/2014 8:45am
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Dang he was on it in the beginning of the race until losing the front end. I bet he would have won the race had that...
Dang he was on it in the beginning of the race until losing the front end. I bet he would have won the race had that not happened. Yes I know it did though, he will be back strong next weekend trust me.
robkinuk wrote:
How do you get rid of James unwanted pubic hair?Woohoo You spit them out after the noshing your giving him every weekWink Laughing Laughing
How would you know something like that?...Dry
2/24/2014 11:06am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2014 11:07am
Guys nothing is Over in this sport until Vegas.yea his crash was shitty, but alotta crazy things can happen from now till then.as fast as he...
Guys nothing is Over in this sport until Vegas.yea his crash was shitty, but alotta crazy things can happen from now till then.as fast as he lost the points last night he can gain them back
But that is just it...he cant. RV is not James. RV does not give up huge chunks of points very often. Now that the pressure is off...it is even more unlikely that he will. RV is confident he can handle Kenny...which means he does not need to hang it out for every win...which means he is less likely to ball it up. James pretty much has to win EVERY race from here on out. It is not going to happen, because to win...the team has to nail the set up EVERY time. James can not win when the set up is not close.

Watch the Yosh vid....and Jame's body language. He knows he blew his championship...and is now just racing for wins.
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2/24/2014 11:44am
The real area for concern for Yosh was that they appeared to miss the set up as the track dried. James was NOT strong in his...
The real area for concern for Yosh was that they appeared to miss the set up as the track dried. James was NOT strong in his heat...and the main looked to be a continuation of the heat. JS7 did not have winning speed at Atlanta.

How many riders posted faster Segment times than James:
Segment 1 - 11
Segment 2 - 7
Segment 3 - 8
Segment 4 - 10

He has some stretches with no traffic...and he did not show the speed from earlier in the day. It reminded me of the old James. Win practice. Miss the set up in the main...over ride the bike. Crash out.

SX is becoming more like other motor sports in that it takes the whole package...rider...AND hitting the set up for a specific track / surface. When they hit the set up...James has race winning speed. When the Kawi team hits the set up...RV has race winning speed. When the teams dont hit the set up...the riders dont win. Even RV and James can not over come set up today.
RV knows you can't win 'em all and is sitting in the points lead. McGrath knew this and has seven SX championships.

I was really hoping James was going to tighten this points battle up but combination of impatience and stiff front end set up continue to haunt him.
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2/24/2014 11:48am
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RV knows you can't win 'em all and is sitting in the points lead. McGrath knew this and has seven SX championships. I was really hoping...
RV knows you can't win 'em all and is sitting in the points lead. McGrath knew this and has seven SX championships.

I was really hoping James was going to tighten this points battle up but combination of impatience and stiff front end set up continue to haunt him.
Impatience?

The dude has been one of the most patient guys out there this year.

Too much front brake in a slick area and he went down on the first lap, not sure how he was being impatient?
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Half way through the series and YES, anything can happen...Heck, RV went out with the knee after he wrapped the title in 12'..so anything can happen....

Bummer for JS7 for sure....Losing the front end albeit, is a crash, but I dont look at it as one of those "James" moments....simply lost the front end going into the turn on first lap...it was pretty slick and that is how RV lost the race....
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James did NOT have it. He himself said he rode tight in his heat. That is racer talk for SLOW. Something happened between practice and the...
James did NOT have it. He himself said he rode tight in his heat. That is racer talk for SLOW. Something happened between practice and the night show. The track went away from the 7 and they did NOT have the speed. What happened to new James? He should have got what he could... THIS is the knock on JS. When he has a bad day...he loses a TON of points (A1 and Atlanta). When RV has a bad day...he finishes P5. THAT is why RV will be champ....and I am a huge JS7 fan.
You can tell all that about James from one lap on TV. Unfuckingbelievable how good you are.
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Impatience? The dude has been one of the most patient guys out there this year. Too much front brake in a slick area and he went...
Impatience?

The dude has been one of the most patient guys out there this year.

Too much front brake in a slick area and he went down on the first lap, not sure how he was being impatient?
Aren't some of these keyboard jockeys ahead of our time? I can't even keep up with all the knowledge.
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mx836 wrote:
Aren't some of these keyboard jockeys ahead of our time? I can't even keep up with all the knowledge.
I cant keep up either. Its too difficult to even try.
2/24/2014 2:25pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2014 2:36pm
James did NOT have it. He himself said he rode tight in his heat. That is racer talk for SLOW. Something happened between practice and the...
James did NOT have it. He himself said he rode tight in his heat. That is racer talk for SLOW. Something happened between practice and the night show. The track went away from the 7 and they did NOT have the speed. What happened to new James? He should have got what he could... THIS is the knock on JS. When he has a bad day...he loses a TON of points (A1 and Atlanta). When RV has a bad day...he finishes P5. THAT is why RV will be champ....and I am a huge JS7 fan.
mx836 wrote:
You can tell all that about James from one lap on TV. Unfuckingbelievable how good you are.
Did you watch the heat? He did not look even close to practice...Wilbur finished right on his ass...and JS even said he rode tight.

In the main...there were plenty of gaps when he was not in traffic...and he NEVER turned a seriously fast lap...or even a fast segment. Not one. After the race...he even said the harder he rode...the slower he got. Face it...the 7 was slow in the main. It just shows how important set up is. Not one of these guys can ride around a set up problem.

Go look at the best segment times....how far James was off..

1 -0.17s
2 -0.64s
3 -0.26s
4 -0.58s

Heck...MIKE ALESSI turned faster segments in EVERY segment than Stew.... Has that happened...ever?

They simply did not have the speed in the night show...that they had in practice. Look at RV...they had no speed in practice...and top speed in the night show. All this is there for anyone to see if you are objective and pay attention... Kawi adjusted and nailed the set up. Yosh missed it. Simple as that.
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2/24/2014 5:29pm
yzjs7 wrote:
Dang he was on it in the beginning of the race until losing the front end. I bet he would have won the race had that...
Dang he was on it in the beginning of the race until losing the front end. I bet he would have won the race had that not happened. Yes I know it did though, he will be back strong next weekend trust me.
Please step away from your phone and do not call into the pulp show tonight, it's coming across a little sad now.
2/24/2014 5:34pm
I hope he can get in between Kroc and RV so it will start raining orange.
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I'll never step away. I meant James had a great start and the momentum of back to back wins. Fastest qualifier and heat win,ya he had it.
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Guys nothing is Over in this sport until Vegas.yea his crash was shitty, but alotta crazy things can happen from now till then.as fast as he...
Guys nothing is Over in this sport until Vegas.yea his crash was shitty, but alotta crazy things can happen from now till then.as fast as he lost the points last night he can gain them back
But that is just it...he cant. RV is not James. RV does not give up huge chunks of points very often. Now that the pressure is...
But that is just it...he cant. RV is not James. RV does not give up huge chunks of points very often. Now that the pressure is off...it is even more unlikely that he will. RV is confident he can handle Kenny...which means he does not need to hang it out for every win...which means he is less likely to ball it up. James pretty much has to win EVERY race from here on out. It is not going to happen, because to win...the team has to nail the set up EVERY time. James can not win when the set up is not close.

Watch the Yosh vid....and Jame's body language. He knows he blew his championship...and is now just racing for wins.
Wow RV told you all that?
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James did NOT have it. He himself said he rode tight in his heat. That is racer talk for SLOW. Something happened between practice and the...
James did NOT have it. He himself said he rode tight in his heat. That is racer talk for SLOW. Something happened between practice and the night show. The track went away from the 7 and they did NOT have the speed. What happened to new James? He should have got what he could... THIS is the knock on JS. When he has a bad day...he loses a TON of points (A1 and Atlanta). When RV has a bad day...he finishes P5. THAT is why RV will be champ....and I am a huge JS7 fan.
mx836 wrote:
You can tell all that about James from one lap on TV. Unfuckingbelievable how good you are.
Did you watch the heat? He did not look even close to practice...Wilbur finished right on his ass...and JS even said he rode tight. In the...
Did you watch the heat? He did not look even close to practice...Wilbur finished right on his ass...and JS even said he rode tight.

In the main...there were plenty of gaps when he was not in traffic...and he NEVER turned a seriously fast lap...or even a fast segment. Not one. After the race...he even said the harder he rode...the slower he got. Face it...the 7 was slow in the main. It just shows how important set up is. Not one of these guys can ride around a set up problem.

Go look at the best segment times....how far James was off..

1 -0.17s
2 -0.64s
3 -0.26s
4 -0.58s

Heck...MIKE ALESSI turned faster segments in EVERY segment than Stew.... Has that happened...ever?

They simply did not have the speed in the night show...that they had in practice. Look at RV...they had no speed in practice...and top speed in the night show. All this is there for anyone to see if you are objective and pay attention... Kawi adjusted and nailed the set up. Yosh missed it. Simple as that.
You do know JS crashed in the main? You must not ride much, cause its not easy to ride a bent fucking bike!
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2/24/2014 6:09pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2014 6:12pm
James did NOT have it. He himself said he rode tight in his heat. That is racer talk for SLOW. Something happened between practice and the...
James did NOT have it. He himself said he rode tight in his heat. That is racer talk for SLOW. Something happened between practice and the night show. The track went away from the 7 and they did NOT have the speed. What happened to new James? He should have got what he could... THIS is the knock on JS. When he has a bad day...he loses a TON of points (A1 and Atlanta). When RV has a bad day...he finishes P5. THAT is why RV will be champ....and I am a huge JS7 fan.
mx836 wrote:
You can tell all that about James from one lap on TV. Unfuckingbelievable how good you are.
TV is just part of the story. Lap times and segment times tell a lot.

James was way off, or just phoned it in after the crash. Neither is good. It didn't seem like the bike was bent, just levers knocked around.
2/24/2014 6:17pm
James did NOT have it. He himself said he rode tight in his heat. That is racer talk for SLOW. Something happened between practice and the...
James did NOT have it. He himself said he rode tight in his heat. That is racer talk for SLOW. Something happened between practice and the night show. The track went away from the 7 and they did NOT have the speed. What happened to new James? He should have got what he could... THIS is the knock on JS. When he has a bad day...he loses a TON of points (A1 and Atlanta). When RV has a bad day...he finishes P5. THAT is why RV will be champ....and I am a huge JS7 fan.
mx836 wrote:
You can tell all that about James from one lap on TV. Unfuckingbelievable how good you are.
Did you watch the heat? He did not look even close to practice...Wilbur finished right on his ass...and JS even said he rode tight. In the...
Did you watch the heat? He did not look even close to practice...Wilbur finished right on his ass...and JS even said he rode tight.

In the main...there were plenty of gaps when he was not in traffic...and he NEVER turned a seriously fast lap...or even a fast segment. Not one. After the race...he even said the harder he rode...the slower he got. Face it...the 7 was slow in the main. It just shows how important set up is. Not one of these guys can ride around a set up problem.

Go look at the best segment times....how far James was off..

1 -0.17s
2 -0.64s
3 -0.26s
4 -0.58s

Heck...MIKE ALESSI turned faster segments in EVERY segment than Stew.... Has that happened...ever?

They simply did not have the speed in the night show...that they had in practice. Look at RV...they had no speed in practice...and top speed in the night show. All this is there for anyone to see if you are objective and pay attention... Kawi adjusted and nailed the set up. Yosh missed it. Simple as that.
I was at the race and I wouldn't characterize Kawi as nailing the setup. RV could not keep the rear wheel from breaking loose and thus made a ton of mistakes, e.g., the rhythm section and the triple to name a few. He could've easily won that race with proper set up. It shows because it is easy to tell that RV doesn't have a lot of confidence in the bike at the moment.
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2/24/2014 6:36pm
mx836 wrote:
Aren't some of these keyboard jockeys ahead of our time? I can't even keep up with all the knowledge.
IceMan446 wrote:
I cant keep up either. Its too difficult to even try.
I've been an addict since 1960 - it is easy to keep upWoohoo - just keep taking a fix..... LOL 49 years and counting and it’s not even debilitating to the health.

Bought my first Cycle News when I was 8 years old!! Only quit that rag when they closed their doorsShocked
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2/25/2014 5:03am
"james had it"... had what, restraining order filed against you? haha
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"james had it"... had what, restraining order filed against you? haha
lmao!

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